Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · February 13, 2018
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FEBRUARY 13, 2018
Meeting Minutes
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Henry Olender, Vice Chairman
Dorothy Travers
Peter Curprak
Robert Phoenix, Alternate
David Martin, Alternate
ABSENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman
Mark Kulos
OTHERS: Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer, and Linda Lee Smith, Recording
Secretary
Henry Olender called the meeting to order and with the regular members who were present ands
and Robert Phoenix and David Martin would be seated for Marc Benjamin and Mark Kulos.
D. COMMUNICATIONS – Henry Olender stated the election of officers pursuant to ZBA By-Laws
had been taken care of last month and the agenda hadn’t been revised. There was no new
communications.
E. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Dorothy Travers to APPROVE the minutes of the January 9, 2017 meeting
as amended. Second by Peter Cuprak. The motion passed unanimously.
F. OLD BUSINESS: None
G. NEW BUSINESS: Vice Chairman Henry Olender opened the public hearing
1. V# 18-01 - Application of The Hills at River View, LLC for property located at 101-
1710 River View Lane (aka 285 Taftville-Occum Road), in a Multi Family (MF) zoning
district. Assessor’s Map #39, Block #1, Lot #1. Request a variance of Sec. 4.15
Fences to allow construction of a retaining wall which exceeds six feet in height above
finished grade.
Richard Shuck read the application into the record as 101-110 River View Lane. Robert
Phoenix clarified that the address was 101-1017 River View Lane. Richard Shuck stated that
was the correct address.
Kevin Grindle, Anchor Engineering, 41 Sequin Drive, Glastonbury, CT, represented Darwin
Gebbie, The Hills at River View. Mr. Grindle handed out Exhibit “J” detailed site plan layout
original from 2011 and the revised plan. Mr. Grindle explained the first 2 pages are the most
recent modified site plan and the last 2 pages were from the original plan approved in 2011.
He explained the reason he was before the board was because the walls adjacent to the club
house building were approved in 2011 with the retaining walls for that location being up to 25’
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tall. Mr. Grindle stated they went before CCP late last summer for a site plan modification
and at that time he was optimistic with the site conditions that they could remove all walls
from club house and buildings 12 and 13. He stated with the topography and excavation they
performed they could be out of the ledge and rock conditions without the need for retaining
walls. Mr. Grindle also stated, instead of 25’ high on the original approvals the maximum
would be 16’. He explained the Sec. 4.5 retaining walls can’t exceed more than 6’ high. Mr.
Grindle stated because of the significant grade change and to reduce walls throughout and
fighting topography and making the best with the land. They had applied to CCP last fall and
hoping to be underway construction buildings 12 and 13 this spring and the club house
thereafter. Mr. Grindle stated he is comfortable with geotechnical investigation and
engineered plans to the City and the walls could be attainable and constructed on site with
most of the walls are below the 16’ but they do go up to 16’ what he has requested.
Darwin Gebbie, 27 York Road, Lebanon, CT introduced himself as the developer of the
project.
David Martin asked if the regulations had changed since the 2011 approval. Richard Shuck
stated the new regulations came into effect 2015. Mr. Shuck stated in the old regulations it
stated fences; and in the new regulations it states fences and walls. Mr. Martin asked if in
the old regulations they wouldn’t have to apply. Mr. Shuck explained the first two pages is the
approved layout with one condition was the geotechnical survey. Mr. Shuck stated they do
have a zoning permit for this phase. Mr. Shuck said with as a result of the geotechnical
survey they would need to go before the Commission on the City Plan (CCP) to modify the
plan with the retaining walls. Mr. Shuck stated the August plan didn’t have it on it and to
move the buildings 20’ and add the retaining walls.
Mr. Grindle stated the buildings were moved towards the north to eliminate seeing the ledge,
and the reason for the walls.
Mr. Grindle stated his hardship was Section 4.15 based on the excessive topography on the
site, within the area of the buildings a 50’ elevation change trying to mitigate and get access
roads parking areas and 3 buildings constructed.
Marvin Beasley, 14 Elwood Lane, had questions and wanted clarification from Mr. Grindle as
he is a neighbor and lives at the top of the hill. He asked where the blasting was going to be
done. Mr. Grindle stated it’s mostly within the area of the building. Robert Phoenix explained
to Mr. Beasley where the work was going to be taking place. Mr. Grindle stated with the
currently approved plans and no plans to exceed number of buildings with limited disturbance
as shown on their plan. Mr. Grindle showed where the 14,15,16,17 would continue under the
powerlines which parallels highway. Mr. Beasley was concerned because when they come
out of their back door they have trees and was concerned about their privacy. Mr. Beasley
wanted to commend Mr. Gebbie for the progress and its success. He is in support.
Valerie Plair, 14 Elwood Lane, she explained they are right in the back of the power lines.
Robert Phoenix explained on the site plan and she wanted to continue to have privacy.
Richard Shuck entered into the record Exhibits “A-I”. He also entered Exhibit “J” into the
record this evening original and revised site plans from Anchor Engineering.
There being no other speakers the public hearing was closed.
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Robert Phoenix made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Peter Cuprak seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
H. DISCUSSION / DECISION ON APPLICATIONS
1. V# 18-01 - Application of The Hills at River View, LLC for property located at 101-
1710 River View Lane (aka 285 Taftville-Occum Road), in a Multi Family (MF) zoning
district. Assessor’s Map #39, Block #1, Lot #1. Request a variance of Sec. 4.15
Fences to allow construction of a retaining wall which exceeds six feet in height above
finished grade.
Motion was made by Dorothy Travers to grant the variance. Robert Phoenix second.
Dorothy Travers stated the hardship was the topography of the land, the changes in the
zoning regulations, and they had to apply for the variance because of the height of the wall
and it’s been carried forth a couple of years.
David Martin stated the hardship is the topography and the changes to the zoning
regulations.
Peter Cuprak stated progress is our most important product.
Robert Phoenix stated it’s because the zoning regulations have changed, it’s a good project
that has come before the board. He also stated in granting this application they will improve
the original plan from 25’ to 16’ walls.
After discussion motion carried unanimously.
Voting in favor Henry Olender, Dorothy Travers, Peter Cuprak, David Martin, and Robert
Phoenix.
I. OTHER MATTERS:
Discussion and possible action for September 2018 ZBA meeting
Richard Shuck stated the City Manager’s office wanted a September zoning meeting
scheduled. Linda Lee-Smith explained there were two Jewish holidays in September.
Discussion ensued.
Motion was made by Robert Phoenix to schedule Tuesday, September 4, 2018 for a zoning
board of appeals meeting. Second by Dorothy Travers. Motion carried unanimously.
J. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Dorothy Travers to adjourn at 7:30 p.m. It was second by
Peter Cuprak. The motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Lee Smith
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday February 13, 2018
23 Union Street – Lower level
7:00 pm
A. Call to Order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
C. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
D. Election of Officers Pursuant to ZBA By-Laws
E. Communications:
F. Acceptance of January 9, 2018 meeting minutes
G. Old Business: None
H. New Business:
1. V# 18-01 – Application of The Hills at River View, LLC for property located
at 101-1710 River View Lane (aka 285 Taftville-Occum Road), in a Multi
Family (MF) zoning district. Assessor’s Map #39, Block #1, Lot #1. Request a
variance of Sec. 4.15 Fences to allow construction of a retaining wall which
exceeds six feet in height above finished grade.
I. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
1. V# 18-01 – Application of The Hills at River View, LLC for property located
at 101-1710 River View Lane (aka 285 Taftville-Occum Road), in a Multi
Family (MF) zoning district. Assessor’s Map #39, Block #1, Lot #1. Request a
variance of Sec. 4.15 Fences to allow construction of a retaining wall which
exceeds six feet in height above finished grade.
J. Other Matters:
1. Discussion and possible action for September 2018 ZBA meeting
K. Adjournment:
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