Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · July 17, 2018
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
JULY 17, 2018
Special Meeting Minutes
The special meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order at 7:02 p.m.
Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman
Mark Kulos
Peter Curprak
Dorothy Travers
David Martin, Alternate
Robert Phoenix, Alternate
ABSENT: None
OTHERS: Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer, and Katherine Rose, Recording Secretary
Marc Benjamin stated there were 4 regular members. Alternate member David Martin was seated.
D. COMMUNICATIONS: None
E. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: David Martin made a motion to approve the minutes of the June
12, 2018 meeting. Dorothy Travers second. Motion carried unanimously.
F. OLD BUSINESS: None
G. NEW BUSINESS: Marc Benjamin opened the public hearing
1. V#18-07: 2 West Ledge Drive. Request for Variance to ZR Sec. 4.8.7 for relief from the
square footage and cubical content requirement to allow for the replacement of two non-
conforming structures within a multifamily housing development with four structures; and relief
from ZR Sec. 6.4.1 to allow for the new structures to maintain the previous density in the units
of 1 /3,188 sf. and number stories of 3. Property of Peachtree Limited Partnership; Application
of Darwin C. Gebbie, Assessors Map # 117, Block # 1 Lot # 14, MF Zone
Richard Shuck read into the record Exhibits A-J.
Attorney Mark Block, 138 Main Street, Norwich, CT. Mr. Block stated he was in attendance
with Project Engineer Brandon Handfield on behalf of the applicant Darwin Gebbie. Attorney
Block distributed copies of original 1970’s site plan that was on file with the City Clerk to be
entered into the record as Exhibit K. Attorney Block said they have been unable to locate
building plans for the original complexes so they are not sure exactly how they were
constructed in regards to what the cubicle content of them were back in 1970. Attorney Block
said the current zoning regulations for variances in regards to reconstructing non-conforming
uses largely deal with the destruction of one building, not the destruction of an entire
apartment complex. Attorney Block wished to highlight the two sections of our regulations that
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are applicable to this situation; ZR Sec 4.8 Non-conforming buildings and uses and ZR Sec
4.8.7. Attorney Block stated that cubicle content is not defined within the City’s regulations so
he introduced for the record Exhibit L, a real estate definition of cubicle content which states to
arrive at the cubicle content of a building multiply the area of the building by the height of the
building, measured from the bottom of the cellar to the top of the roof beams. In the case of the
Peachtree site he says there were no cellars for the buildings so it would be measured from
the floor slab. He summarized that cubicle content refers to a mathematical calculation not the
interior composition of the units; since they do not have building plans from 1970 they cannot
make accurate calculations. Attorney Block requested from the Commission to allow a
variance on the reconstruction as it pertains to the floor area and the cubicle content, to vary
the density from the current regulation which is one building per 5,000 square feet of area to
the original 1,388 square feet. The current change in regulation would decrease the number of
units they would be able to construction from the original 120 units down to 76 units. Attorney
Block said they are also requesting a variance on the maximum number of stories in the
building from 2½, per current regulations, to the original 3 stories. Attorney Block said their
goal is to reconstruction the site as close to the original design while creating structures that
are up to the City’s codes.
Project Engineer Brandon Handfield of Yantic River Consultants, 191 Norwich Avenue,
Lebanon, CT, presented the original 1970’s site plan with the proposed construction laid on top
of it for reference. Mr. Handfield highlighted how they are trying to maintain the existing level of
development in regard to parking and access points, fences, the tree line, etc. Mr. Handfield
said that the proposal for four buildings instead of the previous two will keep the same building
height while provided open recreation space that the City requires. Mr. Handfield stated the
previous buildings were about 500 feet long of a continuous building at three-stories high we’re
proposing four separate buildings same scale in terms of height but much less of a visual
burden. Mr. Handfield said an additional benefit of the four separate buildings is they allow
access through that gives residents a route to the center courtyard. Mr. Handfield discussed
the interior corridor within the buildings that did not previously exist.
Mark Kulos asked Attorney Block and Mr. Handfield if they believed the new cubicle content
would be in the ballpark of what it once was and Mr. Handfield stated that while they don’t
have a way to figure that out exactly they know the previous foundation was a little over 32,000
square feet and while the new proposed buildings are slightly over 50,000 square feet the
foundation square footage does not account for the interior hallways or decks that existed in
the original structure. Mark Kulos also asked if they were planning to build on the slab with no
cellars and Mr. Handfield responded yes.
He also asked if they knew if there were two or three stories; Mr. Handfield said while there
may have been some units half below grade that overall, three stories would have been
needed to achieve the square footage listed on the 1970’s plans and that they are also
proposing three stories.
Mr. Handfield discussed some of the fire safety and aesthetic benefits that their design allows,
including fire stops, sprinklers and internalized decks and common areas. He also responded
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to a question by Marc Benjamin that they did not have any carports or garages including in
their plans only outdoor parking.
Dorothy Travers asked if these new units were to be one or two-bedrooms and if so what the
square footage would be. Mr. Handfield stated that usually these structures allow for a mix but
they have laid out the plan to allow for a maximum of all two-bedroom units per current market
reflections, and that it would be 1000-1100 square feet for those units.
Marc Benjamin asked Mr. Handfield to clarify on an earlier statement he made on there being
less parking spaces in the new proposal. Mr. Handfield said regulations have changed since
1970 so they have designed 180 spaces opposed to the previous 199. Marc Benjamin asked
what other approvals they were going to need and what step in the process they are currently
in. Attorney Block said next would be the site plan approval through the Commission on City
Planning but their contract to rebuild the property is contingence on being able to rebuild what
was there and at this point they knew these were two variances they would need to even get
the project off the ground.
Marc Benjamin opened the public comment section of the meeting.
James Murray, 69 Scott Street, Norwich, CT. Mr. Murray stated he is concerned that the new
development in the case of a fire as the hydrant in front of his home was not enough during the
Peachtree fire. Mr. Murray stated he is also concerned about the quality of the soil as far as
cancer-causing agents, asbestos and formaldehyde from the old insulation. He said the land is
now grown over and is worried what could be released if the land is disturbed and also noted
that there are several people in that neighborhood currently suffering from cancer.
Chris Kendall, 67 Scott Street, Norwich, CT. Mrs. Kendall said she is concerned about the
traffic impact as people already speed in the area and she has witnessed many potential
accidents. Mrs. Kendall said she is also concerned about the footprint of the new development
being larger than it previously was as the old building was large enough and those in the
neighborhood have gotten used to not having neighbors looking down upon them. She added
too that stirring up contamination is a concern of hers as well.
Debra Alfieri, 169 Dunham Street, Norwich, CT. Mrs. Alfieri said her family has the largest
piece of property bordering the Peachtree site and constantly had issues in the past with
people cutting through their property to reach the street. Mrs. Dunham said they would really
like to see a fence erected to protect the neighbor land owners or to at least see it addressed
in some way. She is concerned with someone injuring themselves on their property and filing a
lawsuit.
Theresa Wujcik, 175 Dunham Street, Norwich, CT. Mrs. Wujcik stated that she is a neighbor to
Mrs. Alfieri and the stone wall behind her home is directly next to the garage that still exists at
the Peachtree apartments. She said while she isn’t opposed to the new development she also
had issues with people going through her yard and had things stolen from her patio. Mrs.
Wujcik said she is looking forward to the removal of the overgrowth that has developed but is
also looking for some type of barrier to exist between the property and her own. Mrs. Wujick
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also inquired if these would be rental properties or not and Marc Benjamin let her know there
wasn’t an answer for that at this time.
Marc Benjamin closed the public comment section of the meeting.
Attorney Block responded to the various concerns by stating the applicant Darwin Gebbie has
every intention of being a good neighbor and that they are still in the early stages of planning
but will take into consideration the current property owners’ concerns. Mr. Handfield added that
he did have a partial environmental study done on the property in 2010 that found there were
no known contamination issues with the site and said that they would need to pass
environmental testing in order to achieve funding for the project.
Peter Cuprak asked what the plan was for laundry facilities. Mr. Handfield said the design was
for each unit to have its own washer and dryer.
Marc Benjamin made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Mark Kulos seconded. Motion
carried unanimously, Marc Benjamin, Mark Kulos, Peter Curprak, Dorothy Travers, and David
Martin voting in favor.
H. DISCUSSION / DECISION ON APPLICATIONS
1. V#18-07: 2 West Ledge Drive. Request for Variance to ZR Sec. 4.8.7 for relief from the
square footage and cubical content requirement to allow for the replacement of two non-
conforming structures within a multifamily housing development with four structures; and relief
from ZR Sec. 6.4.1 to allow for the new structures to maintain the previous density in the units
of 1 /3,188 sf. and number stories of 3. Property of Peachtree Limited Partnership; Application
of Darwin C. Gebbie, Assessors Map # 117, Block # 1 Lot # 14, MF Zone
Mark Kulos made a motion approve for the purpose of discussion. Peter Cuprak seconded.
Mark Kulos stated that because the square footage determined by measuring the existing
foundation does not include exterior decks or interior hallways the gap between the new
proposed square footage and what had existed isn’t actually that large and the new proposed
design has a much cleaner and efficient design. Mark Kulos said balancing the economics, the
fact they are keeping the same residential usage, and that they are improving the existing
property he is inclined to approve the variance.
Mark Kulos and David Martin clarified that the hardship for the applicant would be that
reconstructing to the original footprint creates an unreasonable project as far as logistics and
safety concerns.
Mark Kulos addressed that in regards to the height with the previous building have three
stories and to allow the property to have marketable-sized units while not encroaching further
towards the property barrier or creating an additional building he is again inclined to approve
the variance.
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Marc Benjamin added that the situation at hand is unique in that it was a total devastation of a
loss and that the proposal being put in front of them is maintaining the integrity of the unit size
so he believe plus or minus 5-10,000 square feet to achieve a more desirable and safer project
he believes is reasonable. He added that he is completely in support of the idea to break the
development into four buildings with fire protection walls and sprinklers between. In response
to the water pressure issue that was brought up Marc Benjamin said that the buildings did not
have the proper fire protection so no amount of water would have been able to put the fire out.
Marc Benjamin also said he favored the two-bedroom units so he is in support of the project.
Dorothy Travers said she agreed.
Marc Benjamin called for a vote on the motion. Motion carried unanimously, Marc Benjamin,
Mark Kulos, Peter Cuprak, Dorothy Travers, and David Martin voting in favor.
I. OTHER MATTERS: Marc Benjamin said after their last meeting he had met with City Manager
John Salomone in regards to a replacement for Henry Oleander and Mark Kulos, should he step
down. He stated he was told the City Manager is still looking for replacements and accepting
applicants.
J. ADJOURMENT
A motion was made by to Marc Benjamin adjourn at 8:33p.m. David Martin seconded. The
motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Katherine Rose
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
SPECIAL MEETING
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday July 17, 2018
23 Union Street – Lower level
7:00 pm
A. Call to Order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
C. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
E. Communications:
F. Acceptance of July 10, 2018 meeting minutes
G. Old Business: None
H. New Business:
1. V#18-07: 2 West Ledge Drive. Request for Variance to ZR Sec. 4.8.7 for relief
from the square footage and cubical content requirement to allow for the
replacement of two non-conforming structures within a multifamily housing
development with four structures; and relief from ZR Sec. 6.4.1 to allow for the
new structures to maintain the previous density in the units of 1 /3,188 sf. and
number stories of 3. Property of Peachtree Limited Partnership; Application of
Darwin C. Gebbie, Assessors Map # 117, Block # 1 Lot # 14, MF Zone
I. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
1. V#18-07: 2 West Ledge Drive. Request for Variance to ZR Sec. 4.8.7 for relief
from the square footage and cubical content requirement to allow for the
replacement of two non-conforming structures within a multifamily housing
development with four structures; and relief from ZR Sec. 6.4.1 to allow for the
new structures to maintain the previous density in the units of 1 /3,188 sf. and
number stories of 3. Property of Peachtree Limited Partnership; Application of
Darwin C. Gebbie, Assessors Map # 117, Block # 1 Lot # 14, MF Zone
J. Other Matters:
K. Adjournment:
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