Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · October 8, 2019
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
October 8, 2019
Minutes
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order at
7:03 p.m. Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman
Dorothy Travers
David Martin
Robert Phoenix
Gregory Schlough, Alternate
ABSENT: Peter Cuprak
OTHERS: Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer, and Katherine Rose,
Recording Secretary
Marc Benjamin called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Marc Benjamin stated all seated
members would be voting on all matters.
D. COMMUNICATIONS: None.
E. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: Gregory Schlough made a motion to accept the September
10, 2019 minutes with the correct that he also voted in favor of upholding the ZEO’s decision.
Dorothy Travers seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Marc Benjamin wished to clarify that while the minutes correctly state what was
discussed at the previous meeting he was incorrect in stating the motion failed as it did carry
based on state statute. Marc Benjamin stated he spoke to the City Planner and City Counsel
who instructed him the wording on a motion to challenge the ZEO enforcement officer is clear
so due to the wording of the motion it did pass due to the lack of a four-to-one majority vote.
F. OLD BUSINESS: Robert Phoenix made a motion to move Old Business down in the
agenda to Other Matters. Gregory Schlough seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
G. NEW BUSINESS:
1. V# 19 – 06: V# 19-07: 2 Twins Court. Request for a variance of Sec. 2.1,
Commercial Bulk Requirements to reduce the minimum lot size to 8,805 sf. where
10,000 sf. is required. Property of Xial Min Huang; Application of Domenic Carpionato,
Assessors Map #115, Block #2, Lot #10
Richard Shuck read into record Exhibit’s A - I.
John Mancini and Matt Putin of 355 Research Parkway, Meriden, CT principals at BL
Companies introduced themselves on behalf of the applicant and showcased large
scaled drawing of their project to demonstrate where the existing commercial and
residential zoning lines sit along New London Turnpike and Route 82. Mr. Mancini
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stated they noticed an unnatural barrier is created by the current zoning line which they
understand was rezoned to promote commercial business in the area however they felt
as though readjusting the zoning line would create a natural border between the zones
while also protecting the residential courier of dead end streets. Mr. Mancini continued
that they already have control of the adjacent properties and wish to not disturb the
property in question to assist in creating a buffer as they do not plan to do any
development in that area. John Mancini stated the lot and corner not are already non-
conforming due to their small size. Matt Putin added that they only need to acquire a
small portion of the property in question to provide for the development but otherwise
acquire a variance for Lot #10 in order to maintain the home and prevent it from being
demolished.
Marc Benjamin clarified that as they already have acquired three properties and have
lease to do commercial development so their request is to take a portion of the
residential property and perform a plot line shift? Joe Mancini responded that is correct
and that the property is already non-conforming but will become more non-conforming
but it will preserve the neighborhood buffer for the residential homes on that road. Marc
asked if the goal can be accomplished without that portion of the residential lot. Mr.
Mancini responded that their particular development does need that small portion of
land to complete it so the only alternative would be to demolish the home and use the
property for parking or another commercial use. Robert Phoenix asked staff when the
Twins Court area was zoned commercial to which staff responded he was not sure of
the exact date but at least prior to 2007. Marc Benjamin asked what the intended use
for the commercial space is. John Mancini stated they have spoken to some restaurants
and retailers as the space is large enough for a 100-seat restaurant which again they
could accomplish without use of the entire lot in question. Mr. Mancini stated the
homeowner is comfortable and prefers to stay on the property with a reduced lot size.
Robert Phoenix stated it looks as though the area they are looking to acquire would be
used for a dumpster or flow-through traffic. John Mancini stated that was correct and
would allow us to maintain the required setback. Gregory Schlough asked what type of
physical barrier they had in mind to separate the areas to which Mr. Mancini stated they
plan to build a board-on-board privacy fence. David Martin asked if they had thought
about presenting before City Council to request a zoning map change opposed to a
variance. Mr. Mancini responded they did not as they were unsure of why the zone line
goes to point it current does and as the line would be moving to somewhat of a self-
serving position they felt their best option was to come to the Board to explain their
position. Richard Shuck responded that a zoning map change would not alleviate the
need for a variance as the application is requesting the existing non-conforming
property become more non-conforming.
Amber Yates of 51 Surrey Lane, Norwich introduced herself and wished to speak in
opposition of the variance. Ms. Yates stated her property is also zoned commercial
however the properties behind and to the side of her will become part of the
development. Amber Yates stated she felt it would be difficult to sell her home in the
future with frequent construction as well as having commercial property as a neighbor.
Ms. Yates stated she would prefer her home also be taken as commercial development
opposed to remaining residential with a small lot.
Joe Mancini responded that he was not aware if his developer attempted to purchase
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Amber Yates property but he felt in a general commercial zone it would be more
appealing to have a neighboring residential property opposed to an extended lot and
catch basin.
Marc Benjamin stated again to the representatives of the applicant that it is their wish to
revise the lot line from one commercial property to another in turn making one lot non-
conforming. Joe Mancini responded that is correct and to also maintain a buffer of
residential homes between the developments.
Robert Phoenix made a motion to close the public hearing. Gregory Schlough
seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
2. V# 19-08: 34-36 South A Street. Request for a variance of Sec. 1.1, Residential
Bulk Requirements to reduce the front yard setback from 25 ft. to 13 ft. to construct a 16
ft. x 38 ft. deck and associated stairs. Also request variance of Sec. 1.1 to increase the
total lot coverage to 30.66% where 25% is allowed. Property of Brian F. Brennan and
Doreen L Brennan, Assessor’s Map #47, Block #1, Lot #35
Richard Shuck read into record Exhibit’s A-I.
Doreen and Brian Brennan of 36 South A Street, Norwich CT introduced themselves
and stated they are looking to put a deck on the rear of their home but with the two
adjacent front yard on the property it creates a hardship as if they stay in the 25 foot
setback it would force the deck to be placed directly next to the front door. Marc
Benjamin asked if there had been a deck there before. Brian Brennan responded there
had not been only postural stairways for insurance purposes. Doreen Brennan stated
their hardship is that the existing non-conforming lot size and the dual street frontages
on the property make it impossible to construct the porch without a variance.
Gregory Schlough made a motion to close the public hearing. Robert Phoenix
seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
H. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DECISIONS:
1. V# 19-07: 2 Twins Court. Request for a variance of Sec. 2.1, Commercial
Bulk Requirements to reduce the minimum lot size to 8,805 sf. where 10,000 sf.
is required. Property of Xial Min Huang; Application of Domenic Carpionato,
Assessors Map #115, Block #2, Lot #10
Robert Phoenix made a motion to APPROVE the variance as the hardship is the
denial of the variance would displace a resident and disrupt the residential
character of the neighborhood. Gregory Schlough seconded.
Robert Phoenix stated according to the applicant and hardship state the
approved commercial development cannot be achieved without this variance
unless they sacrifice the existing home on the lot. Gregory Schlough stated in
this situation he feels the best of both worlds by gaining commercial development
while maintaining a residential home. Gregory Schlough stated in respects to Ms.
Yates the property would be developed regardless of the variance so he also felt
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keeping somewhat of a residential buffer would benefit her.
Marc Benjamin stated the difficult part of the variance is the expansion of the
non-conforming use on the Twins Court property as it has been stated to never
expand a non-forming use which is what the variance is requesting so he
questioned if the expansion would be in the best interest of the other residential
non-conforming use properties in that area. Marc Benjamin stated from a tax
point of view preserving a residential property is not a good idea so in turn
expanding a non-conforming use would also not be a positive however for the
benefit of the neighborhood he felt it would be so while he generally would not
support a variance of this nature he feels for this area and situation it is
appropriate.
Robert Phoenix stated he also felt for the benefit of the neighborhood it would be
a positive and the complexion of the neighborhood should be considered in their
decision. Marc Benjamin noted he was fairly certain the properties in question
are tied into sewer connections which may present a future issue. Gregory
Schlough stated essential the property will be developed regardless of the
decision we make so the only issue is the preservation of the home which I
support. Marc Benjamin, Robert Phoenix, Gregory Schlough and Dorothy
Travers voted in favor. David Martin voted in opposition. The motion carried.
2. V# 19-08: 34-36 South A Street. Request for a variance of Sec. 1.1,
Residential Bulk Requirements to reduce the front yard setback from 25 ft. to 13
ft. to construct a 16 ft. x 38 ft. deck and associated stairs. Also request variance
of Sec. 1.1 to increase the total lot coverage to 30.66% where 25% is allowed.
Property of Brian F. Brennan and Doreen L Brennan, Assessor’s Map #47, Block
#1, Lot #35
Gregory Schlough made a motion to APPROVE the variance. Dorothy Travers
seconded.
Gregory Schlough stated he saw no issues with the request as the homeowner
insurance is requesting something be built and the lot is a difficult area to work
with. Dorothy Travers agreed and stating the property being on a corner lot
creates a lot of difficulty for construction. Marc Benjamin stated he agreed and
while the percentage increase requested sounds significant based on the lot size
it is less than a 500 square foot difference. David Martin stated he also agreed
and considering the home is a duplex with the porch serving two families it will
not be an oversized deck and will be more setback than the home itself.
All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
I. OTHER MATTERS: Richard Shuck stated Chairman Marc Benjamin had touched
based with him regarding the issue of his cease and desist order that was discussed
at the previous meeting to which end he found the statute regarding the receipt of
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post hearing evidence within the CT Landuse Law for Municipal Landuse Agencies,
Boards and Commissions that states that post hearing evidence from applicants,
opponents and the general public is prohibited however reports of communication
with town staff, commission, attorneys or consultants is warranted so what Chairman
Marc Benjamin did in regards to speaking with Attorney Driscoll is within the law.
Richard Shuck stated the statute is confusing however regardless of how the motion
was made the four votes would not have been achieved to overturn the ZEO
decision. Richard Shuck passed along two letters he wrote to Mr. Gaitan in the past
month regarding the decision of the motion and the other to assist him in achieving
what he dishes to do including acquiring a variance from the Board of Appeals.
Richard Shuck stated he spoke to Todd Schilo at the DMB who stated that the
property map the DMV has on file is the same as the one on file at the City of
Norwich so Mr. Gaitan cannot park any vehicles where the building stood without an
updated map which required a variance from the Zoning Board and change from the
Commission on City Planning. Discussion ensued. Richard Shuck stated moving
forward Deanna Rhoades will act as staff on an appeal of one of his decisions. Marc
Benjamin stated he wished to point out that the statute that staff read aloud touches
upon the decision that was made on the first application that evening as if he had not
continually stated he supports progression in the City he would have leaned towards
not allowing the residential property to remain. Marc Benjamin continued to follow up
on the previous month’s meeting Deanna Rhoades reached out to him a few times
to have a meeting with himself and staff, for which he was unavailable, but to
discuss what Richard Shuck explained tonight. Marc Benjamin stated while he did
not receive an apology and still feels it was a personal attack they are moving
forward and he appreciates the Board’s support but does not feel as though filing a
complaint would be in the Board’s best interest.
Robert Phoenix stated he would be unavailable for the November and potentially
December meetings. Richard Shuck let the Board know there is a Zoning & Pizza
informational public meeting for input on zoning being held the 16th.
J. ADJOURNMENT: A motion was made by Dorothy Travers to adjourn at 8:18 PM. Gregory
Schlough seconded. The motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Katherine Rose
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
REGULAR MEETING
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday October 8, 2019
23 Union Street – Lower level
7:00 pm
A. Call to Order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
C. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
E. Communications:
F. Acceptance of September 10, 2019 regular Meeting minutes
G. Old Business:
H. New Business:
1. V# 19-07: 2 Twins Court. Request for a variance of Sec. 2.1,
Commercial Bulk Requirements to reduce the minimum lot size
to 8,805 sf. where 10,000 sf. is required. Property of Xial Min
Huang; Application of Domenic Carpionato, Assessors Map
#115, Block #2, Lot #10
2. V# 19-08: 34-36 South A Street. Request for a variance of Sec.
1.1, Residential Bulk Requirements to reduce the front yard
setback from 25 ft. to 13 ft. to construct a 16 ft. x 38 ft. deck and
associated stairs. Also request variance of Sec. 1.1 to increase
the total lot coverage to 30.66% where 25% is allowed. Property
of Brian F. Brennan and Doreen L Brennan, Assessor’s Map #47,
Block #1, Lot #35
I. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
1. V# 19-07: 2 Twins Court. Request for a variance of Sec.
2.1, Commercial Bulk Requirements to reduce the minimum
lot size to 8,805 sf. where 10,000 sf. is required. Property of
Xial Min Huang; Application of Domenic Carpionato,
Assessors Map #115, Block #2, Lot #10
2. V# 19-08: 34-36 South A Street. Request for a variance of
Sec. 1.1, Residential Bulk Requirements to reduce the front
yard setback from 25 ft. to 13 ft. to construct a 16 ft. x 38 ft.
deck and associated stairs. Also request variance of Sec. 1.1
to increase the total lot coverage to 30.66% where 25% is
allowed. Property of Brian F. Brennan and Doreen L Brennan,
Assessor’s Map #47, Block #1, Lot #35
J. Other Matters:
1. Discussion on format of meeting materials
K. Adjournment:
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