Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · June 14, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 14, 2021
Regular Meeting Minutes
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:07 p.m. Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman
David Martin
Peter Cuprak
Dorothy Travers
Robert Phoenix
ABSENT: Gregory Schlough
OTHERS: Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer, and Katherine Rose,
Recording Secretary
Marc Benjamin called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Marc Benjamin stated all seated
members would be voting on all matters.
A. COMMUNICATIONS: None.
B. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: Robert Phoenix made a motion to accept the May
11, 2021 minutes. Dorothy Travers seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
C. OLD BUSINESS: None.
D. NEW BUSINESS:
1. V# 21-07: Myrtle Drive (Property is located off of Myrtle Drive,
Dominican Dr., & Wisconsin Ave.): Request for Use Variance to ZR
Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the property for
development of up to 80 apartments in the Business Park Zone. Property
of The Estate of Margaret Stanley. Application of Alexander Gebbie, Ever
Real Properties, LLC., Assessors Map # 21, Block # 1 Lots # 5, 5.1, 5.2, &
5. RD, BP Zone Property is located off of Myrtle Drive, Dominican Dr., &
Wisconsin Ave.
Richard Shuck read Exhibits A - H into the record.
Mark Block, attorney for the applicant, explained that Ever Real Properties
has a contract to purchase property from the Stanley Estate which
included the remaining parcels of the property originally developed by
William Stanley. Mark Block continued that the property as originally
developed was subdivided which became in part St. Jude’s Commons,
Cambridge Estates and the FedEx warehouse. Mark Block explained the
layout of the property and area which was located on the west side of
Myrtle Drive and surrounded St. Jude’s Commons. Mark Block stated that
Ever Real properties was seeking to construct up to 80 multi-family
apartments in two buildings, one of which was located on the large parcel
that was southwest of the St. Jude’s commons and across from Myrtle
Drive to the south. Mark Block stated the applicant was seeking to utilize
the property as originally developed in the early 1990s when it was in the
IP Zone. Mark Block explained that aside from the Fedex warehouse the
subdivision was developed as entirely residential and has sat vacant for
approximately 30 years as it was supposed to become a residential
housing unit as the IP zone allowed such in the industrial park at that time,
which was how Cambridge Estates was built. Mark Block stated when the
zoning for the industrial park was changed to the business park that multi-
family residential units were omitted from the permitted uses allowed
within the zone. Mark Block stated the applicant was seeking the variance
to allow for multi-family units as the property was originally planned for as
it is the logical development of the property and was compatible with the
original community. Mark Block stated the alternative would be for the
property to remain undeveloped instead of returning to the city tax roll.
Mark Block stated the property had ample parking available with access
through Myrtle and Dominican Drive and was not overburdening on the
surrounding community in any way. Brandon Handfield, civil engineer,
explained that the topography, frontage and other limitations existed which
made the space a difficult commercial business property and it was
surrounded by residential development. Robert Phoenix questioned the
proximity of the property to Franklin. Mark Block added that the property
extended into the Town of Franklin however the applicant was not
purchasing any property over the town line. Richard Shuck and Mark
Block stated they had both been contacted by some abutters with potential
concerns.
Matthew Hoberman, attorney at Butler Norris Gold of 254 Prospect Street,
Hartford, stated he represented one of the abutters who felt there were
other reasonable uses of the property and the point of a variance was to
show a hardship and why that hardship prevents the reasonable use of
the property which they felt did not exist. Matthew Hoberman continued
that Exhibit B only showed a small portion of the location that would be
used and although the applicant stated topography would be an issue the
fact that there is a Fedex property and other businesses within the area
showed that there are many other reasonable uses for the property.
Matthew Hoberman added that there were no other multi-family uses in
the zone and perhaps they were omitted to limit housing in the business
park. Matthew Hoberman stated his client would like the city to look into
other potential uses before granting a variance and look at the neighboring
lots to determine why this specific lot would be deserving of a variance.
Mark Block responded that the property was developed in 1997, almost 30
years ago, since which the property has sat feral and that the owner had
been unable to develop the property within the allowable uses permitted.
in the business park zone. Mark Block continued that the property was
surrounded by residential properties and that the owners' hardship from
their perspective was that there was not reasonable available use to
market the property as commercial or industrial for sale and that the most
logical use for the property would be as multi-family apartments.
Marc Benjamin what the total size of the parcel was and how much square
footage the buildings would take up. Mark Block responded that the large
parcel was about 37.14 acres, the small parcel was about 3.62 acres and
that the conservation area which separated Norwich Woods from
Dominican Drive was 9.17 acres with the total footprint of the buildings
combined being less than an acre. David Martin asked if the property had
been actively marketed for sale. Mark Block responded that he was
contacted by Lyman Commercial Realty and was not sure of the history.
Robert Phoenix noted that the circumstance was another situation where
zoning was changed which led to unintended consequences as although
the business park is not currently zoned residential the original industrial
zone use did have residential components so he assumes the original
owner went forward with plans to increase residential components in the
property with the door being shut on the project because of the change in
the zoning laws. Discussion ensued on revealing the identity of the
property owner or property represented by Attorney Hoberman and tabling
the application until the client could be contacted.
Robert Phoenix made a motion to continue the public hearing and seek a
legal opinion from City Council. David Martin seconded.
2. V# 21-08: 28 Falls Ave (AKA 16 Falls Ave.): Request for Use Variance
to ZR Sec. 2.1, Commercial Bulk Requirements; to reduce the front yard
setback to 0 Ft. where 20 ft. is required, for the construction of a 5 ft. x 34
ft. ramp. Property of Mary Anna Holdings, LLC. Application of Zack
Tarner, Thayer’s Marine Inc., Assessors Map # 101, Block # 4 Lots #
63+65 WD Zone
Richard Shuck read Exhibits A - E.
Zack Tarner of 5 Deerbrook Road in Preston stated he was looking to
construct a 5 by 30 foot ramp in front of the existing building for access to
the middle of the building and to the raised electrical panel that is needed
in order to get the required building permit. Zack Tarner stated their goal
was to construct one ramp and access point opposed to multiple. Susan
Mattern, Survey Group Manager at DGT Associates of148 Route 2,
Preston, stated that the site at the Thayer’s Marine complex was currently
being utilized as boat storage which would continue and that the full site
plan would be presented at the Commission on City Planning meeting the
next day which would involve improvements to the one story brick building
with retail space for marine associated sales and a maintenance area for
the Thayer’s Marine business. Susan Mattern showed the area where the
property owner wished to construct a handicap ramp and two van sized
handicap spaces with an easement associated that would encompass the
spaces and go out to access Falls Avenue, and its proximity to the existing
property line. Susan Mattern continued that the ramp would be located at
the northeast side of the building to allow access to the retail area with an
electrical meter installed at the top of the ramp sitting 8 feet above flood
grade. Susan Mattern stated that in order to comply with ADA
requirements, which state a span of a handicap ramp cannot extend 30
feet before a reset or turn platform is required and that one foot of change
in grade is permitted within 12 feet, they required a variance as the current
property line would not allow the 36 feet of length required to create ramp
with the proper turn platforms. Susan Mattern explained that due to the
slope if the ramp was placed in an alternate area it would be more
challenging for a person in a wheelchair trying to maneuver the ramp.
Susan Mayer stated Thayer Marine requested the electrical meter be
installed at the ramp as it is required to be above flood zone elevation at
14.4 feet and that the proposed design would sit the meter at 15.5 feet
high. Richard Shuck explained that due to the elevation of the building
whether stairs or a ramp were seeking to be put in place a variance would
be required and that the variance requested is for the ramp in the rear of
the building closest to the ramp for the parking garage.
Robert Phoenix made a motion to close the public hearing. Dorothy
Travers seconded.
E. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DECISIONS:
1. V# 21-07: Myrtle Drive (Property is located off of Myrtle Drive,
Dominican Dr., & Wisconsin Ave.): Request for Use Variance to ZR
Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the property for
development of up to 80 apartments in the Business Park Zone. Property
of The Estate of Margaret Stanley. Application of Alexander Gebbie, Ever
Real Properties, LLC., Assessors Map # 21, Block # 1 Lots # 5, 5.1, 5.2, &
5.RD, BP Zone Property is located off of Myrtle Drive, Dominican Dr., &
Wisconsin Ave.
The hearing was continued with no discussion.
2. V# 21-08: 28 Falls Ave (AKA 16 Falls Ave.): Request for Use Variance
to ZR Sec. 2.1, Commercial Bulk Requirements; to reduce the front yard
setback to 0 Ft. where 20 ft. is required, for the construction of a 5 ft. x 34
ft. ramp. Property of Mary Anna Holdings, LLC. Application of Zack
Tarner, Thayer’s Marine Inc., Assessors Map # 101, Block # 4 Lots #
63+65 WD Zone
Robert Phoenix made a motion to approve the application for discussion.
Peter Cuprak seconded. Robert Phoenix stated that the hardship is fully
justified in that a variance is needed for any construction to the exterior of
the building based on the proximity to the property line in that area
opposed to another due to the topography of the land. David Martin added
that the ramp may not be ADA compliant but would still be an assistance
to any with a disability and even if the ramp were stairs the variance would
still be required. All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
F. STAFF UPDATES: Richard Shuck reported that the format of in-person
meetings would require an option for the public to call in or access via ZOOM but
committees also have the opportunity to remain remote. Discussion ensued.
G. ADJOURNMENT: A motion was made by Robert Phoenix to adjourn at 8:22 PM.
Dorothy Travers seconded. All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Katherine Rose
Recording Secretary
Agenda
AGENDA REGULAR MEETING
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Monday, June 14, 2021
Special Meeting
7:00 pm Remote Meeting
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
D. Communications:
E. Acceptance of May 11, 2021
F. Old Business:
G. New Business:
V# 21-07: Myrtle Drive (Property is located off of Myrtle Drive, Dominican Dr., &
Wisconsin Ave.) : Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity
Requirements; to permit use of the property for development of up to 80
apartments in the Business Park Zone. Property of The Estate of Margaret Stanley.
Application of Alexander Gebbie, Ever Real Properties, LLC., Assessors Map # 21,
Block # 1 Lots # 5, 5.1, 5.2, & 5.RD, BP Zone Property is located off of Myrtle Drive,
Dominican Dr., & Wisconsin Ave.
V# 21-08: 28 Falls Ave (AKA 16 Falls Ave.): Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec.
2.1, Commercial Bulk Requirements; to reduce the front yard setback to 0 Ft. where
20 ft. is required, for the construction of a 5 ft. x 34 ft. ramp. Property of Mary
Anna Holdings, LLC. Application of Zack Tarner, Thayer’s Marine Inc., Assessors
Map # 101, Block # 4 Lots # 63+65 WD Zone
H. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
V# 21-07: Myrtle Drive (Property is located off of Myrtle Drive, Dominican Dr., &
Wisconsin Ave.) : Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity
Requirements; to permit use of the property for development of up to 80
apartments in the Business Park Zone. Property of The Estate of Margaret
Stanley. Application of Alexander Gebbie, Ever Real Properties, LLC., Assessors
Map # 21, Block # 1 Lots # 5, 5.1, 5.2, & 5.RD, BP Zone Property is located off of
Myrtle Drive, Dominican Dr., & Wisconsin Ave.
V# 21-08: 28 Falls Ave (AKA 16 Falls Ave.): Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec.
2.1, Commercial Bulk Requirements; to reduce the front yard setback to 0 Ft.
where 20 ft. is required, for the construction of a 5 ft. x 34 ft. ramp. Property of
Mary Anna Holdings, LLC. Application of Zack Tarner, Thayer’s Marine Inc.,
Assessors Map # 101, Block # 4 Lots # 63+65 WD Zone
I. Staff Updates
J. Adjournment
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