Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · November 10, 2022
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
November 10, 2022
Regular Meeting Minutes
Hybrid Meeting
ZOOM & Room 335, City Hall, Norwich
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:07 p.m. Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman (ZOOM)
David Martin
Robert Phoenix
Dorothy Travers (CALL IN)
Gregory Schlough
ABSENT: None
OTHERS: Attorney Mark Block, Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer,
and Katherine Rose, Recording Secretary
Marc Benjamin called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Marc Benjamin stated all
members would be voting on all matters.
A. COMMUNICATIONS: None.
B. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: Robert Phoenix made a motion to accept the
September 13, 2022 minutes. Gregory Schlough seconded. All voted in favor.
The motion passed unanimously.
C. OLD BUSINESS: None.
D. NEW BUSINESS:
1. V# 22-07: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.);
Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements;
to permit use of the property for development of additional, previously
approved dwelling units in in the existing condominium development
within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land Investment,
LLC. Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map #
034, Block # 001 Lots # 038
Richard Shuck read the legal notice for the application into the record as
well as Exhibits A - J.
A two minute recess was taken to allow Dorothy Travers to join the meeting
by phone.
Attorney Mark Block of 138 Main Street, Norwich presented a use variance
on behalf of the applicant Forest Land Investment, LLC. Attorney Block
explained that the applicant owned development rights for the remaining 24
potential units at Forest View Estates. Attorney Block noted on the site plan
where the 24 units would be located on Ferguson Avenue. Attorney Block
explained that the original development occurred in 2002 as a common
interest community parcel, which at the time was part of the industrial park
zone that allowed residential use up to a certain percentage within the park.
Attorney Block continued that the zoning was changed after the approval of
the Forest View Estates plan, which removed residential use as an
approved use within the industrial zone. Attorney Block stated that at this
time the applicant was prohibited to construct the 24 units due to zoning.
Attorney Block stated the appeal for a use variance was based on several
factors including that the business park zone restriction does not permit
residential use and that the declaration of Forest View Estates stated that
each unit is restricted to residential use as a single family residence which
does not allow any non-profit or commercial uses within the units. Attorney
Block explained this prevents the area from being developed for commercial
purposes, which is permitted within the zone. Attorney Block stated the
applicant’s claim is that this hardship is not self created. Attorney Block
stated in reference to Zoning Regulations 7.10.1, the issue only impacts the
applicant due to the residential limitations to the common interest
community and 24 units. Attorney Block stated in regards to item 4 of the
Zoning Regulations section 7.10.2, which allows a use variance in the case
that the private property would be rendered valueless, the applicant had
submitted an appraisal done on October 2, 2022 by a use appraisal
company which states ‘the zoning regulation change made subsequent to
the approval of the subject condominium complex but before the completion
of all residential units has been rendered land earmarked for the final
previously approved 24 units as valueless to the owner of the development
rights.” Attorney Block stated that the variance would restore the underlined
inherent value of the 24 units since the property only be developed for
residential use. Attorney Block stated the applicant wished to use the
property for its originally permitted use and if not able to, the property would
remain a valueless open space.
Attorney Mark Block reported that the CCP rejected the first application with
a negative recommendation due to a determined reasonable development
opportunity, however the appraisal was not submitted at that time. Attorney
Block stated the CCP also provided a negative recommendation on the
second application but he was unsure if the appraisal was consulted at that
time.
Gregory Schlough questioned what prevented the project from moving
forward through the past two decades. Attorney Block stated that Forest
Land Investments LLC was not the original developer and had purchased
the property around 2015. Gregory Schlough asked if the applicant or a
condo association would be in control of the units. Attorney Block explained
that the applicant can only build what is allowed by the declaration and that
the owners of the proposed 24 units would become part of the Forest View
condo association.
Robert Phoenix questioned if the condo association was in essence as
business as the unit owners are shareholders that are directed by a board.
Attorney Block stated the Common Interest Ownership Act establishes that
each condominium developer shall have an association that governs and
manages a condominium project, which is not the same type of business
that the declaration speaks to. Discussion ensued. Robert Phoenix stated
his primary objection is that the applicant will be involved in the development
but not the ultimate completed project, if the variance was approved. Robert
Phoenix stated he was also concerned if the developer had approached any
environmental authority to mitigate the encroachment into the 100 foot
wetland that they would intend to build on. Attorney Block responded that
no steps had been taken as no permission had yet been given to proceed
with the project.
David Martin asked if the applicant purchased the property with the
knowledge of the zoning restrictions. Attorney Block responded he did not
know the exact time that the zoning change occurred but believed it was a
few years after the initial project approval. Attorney Block stated the
applicant was aware of the zoning change but not the exact issue that it
caused. David Martin stated he felt the hardship was somewhat self induced
by not bringing it forward at the time of discovery or prior to the purchase.
Robert Phoenix asked if the homeowner association sold the property to the
applicant. Attorney Block responded he believed it was purchased out of
foreclosure from the previous developer or directly from the bank.
Richard Shuck clarified the issue was not the land itself but the privately
owned development rights for the units that had not yet been built. Attorney
Block added that the land is technically owned by the associated while the
development rights are owned by the applicant. Discussion ensued.
Robert Phoenix made a motion to close the public hearing at 7:39PM.
Gregory Schlough seconded. All voted in favor. The motion passed
unanimously.
E. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DECISIONS:
1. V# 22-07: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.);
Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements;
to permit use of the property for development of additional, previously
approved dwelling units in in the existing condominium development
within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land Investment,
LLC. Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map #
034, Block # 001 Lots # 038
Gregroy Schlough made a motion to approve the application. Robert
Phoenix seconded. Gregory Schlough referred to the hardship presented
as what was written on the application. Gregory Schlough stated he felt
there were a few things in the application he didn’t feel he could agree with
as well as feeling the board should follow the guidance of the two decisions
made by the CCP. Gregory Schlough stated if the CCP had not received
the appraisal to consider it would not be a fault of their own. Robert Phoenix
agreed with Gregory Schlough especially in regards to the CCP decision.
Robert Phoenix stated he felt the hardship appeared to be more of an
investment situation and noted that financial hardships could not be
considered by the board. David Martin stated as he understood the
applicant purchased the development rights understanding the situation
and that due diligence on the applicant’s part would have illuminated issues.
Dorothoy Travers agreed. Marc Benjamin asked for clarification if Gregory
Schlough and Robert Phoenix, who made the motion, if they did not agree
with the hardship presented or if they felt it was inadequate. Robert Phoenix
stated he did not agree with the language used in the hardship. Richard
Shuck noted that in regards to comments made during the public hearing,
that he and ? had received the appraisal well before the CCP meeting and
that members could seek further information of if the CCP members had
consulted the appraisal during their decision making if they wished to.
Chairman Marc Benjamin stated that the board could vote on the application
if they felt it stood on its own merits regardless of that information.
Gregory Schlough, Robert Phoenix, David Martin, Dorothy Travers and
Marc Benjamin voted in opposition. The motion failed unanimously.
F. STAFF UPDATES: None.
G. ADJOURNMENT: A motion was made by Robert Phoenix to adjourn at 7:52
PM. Greg seconded. All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Katherine Rose
Recording Secretary
Agenda
AGENDA SPECIAL MEETING
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Thursday November 10, 2022
7:00 pm
Hybrid Meeting
(Room 335 and Online)
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
D. Communications:
E. Acceptance of September 13, 2022 meeting minutes
F. Old Business:
G. New Business:
V# 22‐07: 1‐59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.); Request for Use Variance
to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the property for development
of additional, previously approved dwelling units in in the existing condominium
development within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land Investment, LLC.
Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map # 034, Block # 001 Lots # 038
H. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
V# 22‐07: 1‐59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.); Request for Use Variance
to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the property for
development of additional, previously approved dwelling units in in the existing
condominium development within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land
Investment, LLC. Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map # 034, Block
# 001 Lots # 038
I. Staff Updates
J. Adjournment
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Mark Benjamin, Chairman
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