City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingOakdale, MN · February 11, 2020
Minutes
WORKSHOP
OAKDALE CITY COUNCIL
February 11, 2020
Attendance
The City Council held a workshop on Tuesday, February 11, 2020, at Oakdale Municipal Building, 1584
Hadley Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota. The meeting began at 5 PM.
Present: Mayor Paul Reinke
Council Members: Jake Ingebrigtson
Susan Olson
Colleen Swedberg
Kevin Zabel
Also Present: Susan Barry, City Clerk
Craig Dawson, Interim City Administrator
Alyssa MacLeod, Communications Specialist
Chelsea Petersen, Administrative Services Director
Dallas Pierson, Planning Commission
Bob Streetar, Community Development Director
Council Member Swedberg asked that all work sessions begin at 5 PM.
Building Official Position
Interim City Administrator Dawson reviewed a proposed transition plan relating to the retirement of
Chief Building Official Schmitt on March 31.
In response to questions from the City Council, City Administrator Dawson noted that the City’s building
official oversees building inspections and code enforcement and conducts inspections. He added that
state law requires municipalities to have a certified building inspector, either on staff or via contract.
City Administrator Dawson further noted that Building Inspector Mellgren is certified and, thus, can
serve as acting building official during the hiring process as well as apply for the position.
In response to a question from Council Member Ingebrigtson, Administrative Services Director Petersen
indicated that she would respond back on the difference in pay of the building official and building
inspector.
City Administrator Dawson noted that the hiring process would be done in-house.
It was the consensus of the City Council to designate Sheryl Mellgren as acting chief building official and
to commence the application process.
Administrative Services Director Petersen commented on additional avenues the City could utilize for
advertising the position.
Environmental Management Commission – Interview: Karen Jackson
The City Council interviewed Environmental Management Commission applicant Karen Jackson.
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Cable Franchise
Also Present: Kevin Orlando, Comcast
Lori Pulkrabek, Ramsey-Washington Cable Commission
Administrative Services Director Petersen provided an overview of a matter relating to the Ramsey-
Washington Cable Commission’s cable franchise agreement with Comcast that has been in place since
1999. She noted that the franchise agreement expired in 2018 and, since that time, the City Council
has granted four extensions to allow for negotiations between the Commission and Comcast to
continue. Administrative Services Director Petersen further noted that the Commission is asking
member cities to support a preliminary assessment that the cable franchise agreement with Comcast
not be renewed, which would allow for the next step in the process, an administrative hearing, to occur.
She further noted that the informal negotiation process would continue and a formal trial held at some
point, if so determined. Administrative Services Director Petersen added that the City Council would be
asked to take official action at their next meeting.
In response to a question from Council Member Olson, Administrative Services Director Petersen noted
that it was her assumption that the other member cities would support the preliminary assessment to
not renew the cable franchise agreement with Comcast.
Cable Commissioner Pulkrabek commented on correspondence sent to the City Council by Comcast the
following evening. She noted that as the Commission’s legal consultant did not have adequate time to
respond to inaccuracies in the letter, she provided comments on a few of the matters. Commissioner
Pulkrabek noted that the Commission’s projected franchise fee revenue would be approximately $11
million over the ten-year term of the franchise, rather than the $17 million referenced by Comcast and
that the Commission’s current PEG (Public, Educational, Government) fee is $5 not $6.59 per month,
as noted.
Kevin Orlando, Comcast, said that the PEG fee was based off declining video subscriptions and
explained that the franchise fee amount is determined by “true-up” projections versus actual costs. He
explained that “true-up” amounts are based on customer accounts being paid a month in advance as
well as other revenue projection factors.
Commissioner Pulkrabek asked that Comcast officially notify the Commission of the PEG increase, as is
required.
Commissioner Pulkrabek commented that the letter stated the Commission has spent $200,000 on
legal and consultant fees over five years; however, the amount was $76,000.
Commissioner Pulkrabek stated that the Commission keeps $2 million in reserve in lieu of carrying
debt, taking out loans, or bonding. She further stated that funds are made available to member cities
for video production and equipment upgrades.
Mr. Orlando commented on the lack of materials from Comcast in the information that was provided to
the City Council.
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Commissioner Pulkrabek indicated that the next steps in the process would allow the opportunity for
both parties to present their sides at a hearing.
Council Member Ingebrigtson expressed concern with Comcast’s lack of movement in the negotiation
process as well as their “gamesmanship”. He added that other communities were getting better deals
than that being proposed to the Ramsey-Washington Cable Commission.
Mr. Orlando shared the PEG fees paid to Comcast by some other communities, ranging from $1 to $2
and noted that PEG fees are passed on from Comcast to the respective communities.
Council Member Ingebrigtson stressed the importance of Comcast working harder to negotiate an
agreement with the Commission.
Mr. Orlando questioned the cost of some of the Commission’s anticipated expenditures, such as a new
production vehicle, and suggested less costly options. He also noted that a lower PEG fee would result
in a lower bill for Comcast customers in Oakdale.
Commissioner Pulkrabek stated that the Cable Commission proposes a PEG fee of $4.14 as well as the
ability to lower it further.
Council Member Zabel asked Mr. Orlando about the number of formalized proposals and noted that
Comcast has not deviated from a PEG fee of $2.12.
Mr. Orlando asked why the Commission would want a higher fee.
Council Member Zabel explained that the $4.14 PEG fee requested by the Commission is reflective of a
fair rate for the use of the community’s right-of-ways.
Mr. Orlando noted that the Commission also receives five percent of Comcast’s revenue.
In response to a question from Council Member Olson, Commissioner Pulkrabek explained that
Oakdale’s PEG fees allow for additional programming to be provided to customers such as televising
ISD 622 sporting events and a variety of community events such as Summerfest and concerts.
Mr. Orlando noted that other communities offer similar programming at a lesser cost.
Commissioner Pulkrabek stated that the Commission wants the needs of member communities met
and that the requested $4.14 PEG fee is fair. She added that the Commission is open to continuing
informal negotiations with the goal of reaching an agreement in 2020.
Council Member Zabel expressed frustration with Comcast asking for a PEG fee of $2.12 rather than
allowing the Commission to set the fee at $4.14 and the ability to adjust it downward.
The City Council talked about how the broadcast needs for each community are unique, thus, the PEG
fees cannot be an apples to apples comparison.
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Mayor Reinke commented on the scenario of ISD 622 broadcasting their own events at some point.
Mayor Reinke indicated that North Saint Paul was being asked to reconsider leaving the Commission
and commented on the Commission’s improvement goals.
Council Member Zabel commented on Comcast’s preference to negotiate with individual cities rather
than larger commissions made up of several cities.
Commissioner Pulkrabek noted that the main negotiating point between the Commission and Comcast
is the PEG fee and that Comcast would not want to lose the ability to serve ten communities should an
agreement not be reached. She commented on some other concerns relating to Comcast: no local
office to address customer service issues and the need to upgrade their equipment and utility lines.
In response to questions, Commissioner Pulkrabek explained that although the PEG fee is paid by
Comcast to the Commission, Comcast wants a PEG fee of $2.12 reflected on the bill as a higher
amount makes their subscription appear to be more costly.
Commissioner Pulkrabek asked the City Council to contact her at any time with questions.
Tree Board
Also Present: Nick Kantola, Tree Board
Dallas Pierson, Tree Board
Cathie Schreifels, Tree Board
The City Council discussed whether to dissolve the Tree Board as only five members are currently
serving.
Council Member Swedberg asked that the Tree Board be allowed to operate through 2020 and the
matter be readdressed in 2021 to allow time to recruit more members. She added that Nick Kantola
would like to serve as chairperson and Marge Sagstetter would like to serve as vice chairperson and
spoke to a person interested in applying to serve on the board.
Council Member Zabel noted that the Economic Development Commission and the Parks and
Recreation Commission need to appoint liaisons to the Tree Board.
The City Council discussed reducing the number of members to seven but supported leaving it at 13
members as four of the members are liaisons from other advisory bodies.
In response to a question from Council Member Olson, Council Member Swedberg commented on the
importance of retaining the annual programs organized by the Tree Board, such as the tree giveaway
and buckthorn removal and that they would continue under the purview of the city forester.
Tree Board Member Pierson commented on the valued expertise of the Tree Board members, many of
whom are Master Gardeners.
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Council Member Swedberg said that Parks and Recreation Commission could absorb Tree Board
members.
It was noted that commissioners can serve on only one commission at a time, excluding the Tree Board.
Mayor Reinke appreciates the strong commitment of the Tree Board members to tree and
environmental health matters in the City.
The City Council supported the Tree Board continuing to operate in 2020, soliciting for new members,
keeping membership at 13, and bringing the matter back in 2021.
Community Survey
Communication Specialist MacLeod provided an overview of the proposal for a National Community
Survey subscription relating to conducting a basic service survey in 2020. She noted that the
associated costs were within budget and the reoccurring subscription could be canceled at any time.
Communication Specialist MacLeod explained that the survey would be determined by length, not by a
set number of questions so that a few add-ons might be considered. She also recommended
conducting a community survey every three years.
The City Council discussed whether to offer a Spanish translation survey.
In response to a question from Mayor Reinke, Communication Specialist MacLeod affirmed that
respondents would have the option of identifying themselves.
Staff was directed to proceed with the community survey.
Communication Specialist MacLeod briefly reviewed the next steps in the process, including developing
question, and noted that results would likely be available in July.
Communication Specialist MacLeod announced that 21 entries had been received for the City’s “If I
Were Mayor” contest.
Council Discussion
The City Council discussed the strategic planning meeting on April 7 at 5 PM at City Hall.
Parks and Recreation Commission – Interview: Glen Giacoletto
The City Council interviewed Parks and Recreation Commission applicant Glen Giacoletto.
Council Discussion (cont.)
Council Member Olson shared that a family member’s request to their planning commission was denied
although it met the necessary criteria.
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Mayor Reinke explained that planning commissions serve in an advisory capacity to city councils, thus,
the city council can approve a request that have been denied.
Mayor Reinke announced that Council Member Zabel, Public Works Director/City Engineer Bachmeier,
Community Development Director Streetar, and he met recently with Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)
representatives to discuss a recent article relating to possible reduced federal funding for the Gold Line
project.
Council Member Zabel anticipated that the project score would increase significantly following a few
adjustments being made to the project.
Council Member Ingebrigtson stated that his support of the project stems on Oakdale getting all that
was promised.
Council Member Zabel noted that parking structure adjustments added costs but the BRT has identified
adjustments that would cover the adjustments.
On another matter, Mayor Reinke noted that the Minnesota Department of Transportation has been
talking about transferring ownership and maintenance of bridges located over trunk highways and
interstates to local jurisdictions.
Council Member Ingebrigtson stated that such transfers should be avoided at all costs as it would
significantly affect future councils.
On another matter, Mayor Reinke noted that he met with Congresswoman McCollum to discuss her
efforts and concerns relating to qualifying for Super Funds to address the contaminants in drinking
water. He asked that she move ahead swiftly.
Council Member Olson asked about the urgency to develop a small area plan the Glenbrook and 52nd
Street area.
Mayor Reinke explained that a plan would be in place should one of the property owners want to
develop or redevelop in that area.
Council Member Zabel noted without a moratorium, a property owner could still move ahead and that
staff could talk to the property owner about access issues and other things of note.
Mayor Reinke supported developing a small area plan and noted that the small area plan is a priority of
the comprehensive plan.
In response to a question from Council Member Zabel on financing the small area plan, Interim City
Administrator Dawson noted that the most likely funding sources would be general fund reserves or
internal loan or combination.
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Council Member Swedberg supported working on other projects being done first, such as the park
usage survey. She noted that there is no immediate urgency on completing comprehensive plan items
and expressed concern with spending $75,000 at this point in time on the small area plan.
Council Member Ingebrigtson agreed.
Council Member Olson stated that she would like to be provided with historical information on the site
to help her better understanding the need for the small area plan.
Council Member Zabel announced that the legislative session was underway and the condensed
timeframe could be advantageous to the City’s proposed local sales tax request.
Adjournment
The workshop adjourned at 6:56 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Barry, City Clerk
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