City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingOakdale, MN · November 28, 2023
Minutes
WORKSHOP MINUTES
OAKDALE CITY COUNCIL
NOVEMBER 28, 2023
The City Council held a workshop on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at Oakdale City Hall, 1584
Hadley Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota. The meeting began at 5:00 PM.
Present: Mayor Kevin Zabel
Council Members: Noah Her
Jake Ingebrigtson
Andy Morcomb
Susan Willenbring
City Staff Members: Christina Volkers, City Administrator
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
Jesse Farrell, City Engineer
Andy Gitzlaff, Community Development Director
Melanie Lee, Human Resources Director
Luke McClanahan, City Planner
Nick Newton, Police Chief
Lori Pulkrabek, Communications Manager
Jim Romanik, Public Works Manager
John Stark, Special Projects Manager
Kyle Stasica, Accounting Manager
Julie Williams, Recreation Superintendent
Kevin Wold, Fire Chief
Kevin Zittel, Facilities Manager
Others Present: Brit Harmon, Animal Control Officer, Companion Animal Control
2024 EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
Human Resources Director Melanie Lee explained that there are significant changes to the
construction of the City’s 2024 employee benefits which is why this item is before the Council
for review and information.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about early negotiations yielding a better
monetary result, Ms. Lee noted that significant savings were a result of consolidating ancillary
offerings to one provider, and a willingness to look at different plan options. City Administrator
Volkers added that Ms. Lee likely received greater savings by starting the bidding process
earlier than in past years.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the City providing dental
insurance, Ms. Lee stated that the City had a confusing arrangement with previous dental
coverage, but has since been able to offer all levels of dental coverage at no cost to the
employees.
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Council Member Her thanked Ms. Lee for her work on this item. He asked if the level of
coverage provided by the City is comparable to other cities. Ms. Lee said that in early 2023,
City staff benchmarked against peer communities, and the City is fairly comparable. One area
that will need evaluation is the City-offered life insurance. Mayor Zabel asked if the City looked
at other sectors when benchmarking. Ms. Lee clarified that staff only looked at other
municipalities. Council Member Ingebrigtson expressed his satisfaction with the City’s
offerings given Ms. Lee’s report on comparability to other cities.
Council Member Willenbring encouraged the City to continue to evaluate the life insurance
offerings. Ms. Lee indicated that the City has numerous areas to explore for future benefits
options. In response to Mayor Zabel’s question regarding the type of life insurance provided
by the City, Ms. Lee stated it is term life insurance.
ESTABLISHING 2024 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES
Special Projects Manager John Stark explained that City staff took a look at last year’s
legislative priorities (removing any that have been fulfilled), those of other organizations that
represent municipalities, and professional organizations that department heads are affiliated
with when developing the compiled list of potential 2024 legislative priorities. He noted that
some organizations have not made their lists available as of this meeting. Mr. Stark
highlighted two new recommendations that were not part of the 2023 legislative priorities –
School Resource Officer (SRO) and Law Enforcement Recruiting and Retention. One item that
should have been added to the 2024 list is Supporting Washington County in Their Efforts to
Redesign and Reconstruct the Geneva Ave N & Highway 36 Intersection. Lastly, Mr. Stark
offered that over the course of working on past legislative priorities, legislators have said ‘less
is more’ when it comes to a legislative priorities list. Ms. Volkers added that it is up to the
Council’s discretion regarding the number of priorities.
Mayor Zabel mentioned keeping Priority K – Noisewall from the 2023 legislative priorities list
to show residents that the City is advocating for them, but that neither an east side or a west
side should be indicated.
Council Member Morcomb stated that anything that is important to the City should be on the
list, even if the priority may not move through the legislative process. He suggested the
addition of Permanent and Sustainable Funding for Mental Health Services. Mayor Zabel
requested that language be added to define the proper provider of the funding, i.e.,
Washington County Department of Health.
Mayor Zabel suggested that the list be broken out into city, regional, and state-wide municipal
priorities.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about the reasoning for having
Minnesota Cities Initiatives on the list, Mayor Zabel explained that if there are topics that the
Council might not agree with, this priority gives Ms. Volkers the option to bring it to Council for
their opinion and direction.
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Council Member Willenbring suggested adding Locally-Controlled Zoning Regulations to the
list based on the possibility of groups pushing to make zoning regulations a State-level
decision. Mayor Zabel was unsure if there has been enough momentum behind this effort to
warrant inclusion on the list. Ms. Volkers added that local control is important in this regard.
Mayor Zabel suggested that City staff organize the list based on the Council’s feedback and
bring it back to a future workshop before formal approval at a subsequent regular City Council
meeting. In the meantime, Council Members should send any additional items to Ms. Volkers
for inclusion.
Council Member Willenbring asked for clarification on the Local Option Sales Tax Adjustment
(L.O.S.T.) stating that the item is requesting flexibility for an increased collection amount due
to inflation and cost increases. Ms. Volkers confirmed.
COMPANION ANIMAL CARE & CONTROL - CONCEPT PLAN
City Planner Luke McClanahan presented on the Companion Animal Care and Control Concept
Plan reviewing the adjacent businesses and Site Plan, necessary Planned Unit Development
(PUD) amendments, and the need for a Conditional Use Permit (CUP).
In reference to the suggested PUD amendments, Mr. McClanahan noted that the
Development Review Committee (DRC) determined that the proposed exterior building
materials consisting primarily of “Designer Premium Pro-Snap Standing Seam” roofing and
siding, and do not satisfy the Zoning Ordinance standards, which states that “pre-engineered
metal buildings of any kind are prohibited.”
Mayor Zabel asked how the City defines pre-engineered metal buildings given the information
about the structure found in the memo. Mr. McClanahan clarified that it is not the structure
itself, but the exterior that is considered pre-engineered. He added, because the property is
located in a PUD zoning district, some flexibility to the design standards could be offered
through a PUD amendment, at the Council’s discretion. If the Council is amenable to this
option, staff is recommending that unique architecture elements be integrated into the overall
building design so it does not appear to be overwhelmingly metal.
Community Development Director Andy Gitzlaff noted that the adjacent Marlys Early Education
Center development received some flexibility related to the requirement of at least 70% Class
I materials, specifically on the non-street facing sides.
In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about staff’s interpretation of the percentage of Class
I material based on this proposal’s concept designs, Mr. McClanahan estimated 25-30%
currently.
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Britt Harmon, Animal Control Officer with Companion Animal Control, explained that the
building will be custom designed and built, and there is no pre-engineered aspect. She added
that Chief Building Official Greg Brady was supportive of standing seam which is included in
the proposed design. There will be an abundance of windows to provide natural light for the
dogs and cats. Ms. Harmon stated that this facility will have a direct impact on the animals in
the community.
In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about why staff is proposing a deviation from
Industrial/Office (I/O) to Commercial, Mr. McClanahan noted that the nature of the use is
more “transactional” versus I/O which encompasses the creation or storage of property.
Additionally, it offers a service to the community. Mayor Zabel further asked how this business
is different than an auto towing business which is allowed under I/O as a special use. Mr.
McClanahan stated that the kennel aspect of the business is allowed under Commercial as a
special use. In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about staff’s decision to classify this use
as Commercial versus I/O which is a deviation from the City’s past actions regarding these
types of businesses, Mr. McClanahan did not have the historical knowledge to speak to past
decisions. Mr. Gitzlaff added that when the PUD was initially reviewed in relation to this
proposal, staff classified this as a Commercial use, however, because the application has not
been formally submitted, the classification can be changed.
In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about the definition of similar superior metals as found
in the Zoning Ordinance, Mr. McClanahan stated that it is metal with no unique features. To
follow up, Council Member Willenbring asked how this type of metal differs from steel siding
for a home. Mr. McClanahan could not speak to this question due to lack of expertise in
building materials.
Council Member Morcomb was supportive of the proposal design as presented, including the
current siding choice.
Council Member Ingebrigtson was supportive of the concept plan, but was unsure if the metal
siding design fits in with the other buildings in the current proposed location.
Ms. Harmon stated that there is a lot of pride that will go into this building. She is not hard set
on the colors of the building, and is willing to accept input if it would make the building design
more cohesive with the adjacent business.
Ms. Volkers suggested that staff work with the applicant to ensure the same flexibility is given
to this development as was given to the adjacent business in terms of the required type of
building materials.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about interior noise deterrents, Ms.
Harmon explained that there are sound proofing mechanisms within the building materials.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about the animal capacity, Ms. Harmon
noted that there will be 24 dog kennels and 20-30 cat kennels.
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In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about any potential disruption to the
childcare center next door due to the dog’s being outside, Ms. Harmon explained that the dogs
will not be outside together as this is not a play yard concept. She added that there will be
solid fencing around the outdoor areas.
In response to Council Member Her’s question about the waste mitigation plan, Ms. Harmon
stated that there is no turf or asphalt to create runoff, but general waste disposal is through
simple trash.
In order to provide consistency between these adjacent developments – Companion Animal
Care & Control and Marlys Early Education Center – Council Member Willenbring suggested
that the same building material requirements that were imposed on Marlys also be imposed
on Companion. The Council was supportive of this suggestion. Ms. Volkers reiterated that the
applicant is open to making changes to meet the Zoning Ordinance requirements.
The Council had no concerns with the PUD amendment related to the number of parking
spaces.
PROPOSED 2024 FEE SCHEDULE CHANGES
Ms. Volkers explained that the fee schedule likely will not be brought to workshop every year
moving forward, but over the past few years City staff has been reviewing and compiling all
City fees for inclusion in this singular document which is why it is before Council now. She
added that the police security contract fees for 2024 have not been determined yet and will
be based on real costs to the City.
The discussion shifted to a review of the current “contractual police services” model versus
that of off-duty employment. Ms. Volkers noted that under the current model, the police
officers are “on-duty” licensed officers representing the City, thus their pay for these
contractual services comes through the City’s payroll. Mayor Zabel expressed his desire to
have a policy conversation prior to any discussions between the City and the police unions on
this matter. Police Chief Nick Newton noted that the City’s current model is consistent with
other agencies, and that he would prefer to research the off-duty employment model in greater
detail before any discussions take place about switching models at a policy or other level.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about the increase for the background
check fee, Ms. Volkers clarified that the background check fee was previously in the City Code
and has now been moved to the fee schedule.
Council Member Willenbring stated that she could not support the fee schedule due to the
inclusion of the increased fees related to utilities.
Staff was directed to add the fee schedule to the December 12, 2023 regular City Council
meeting for final approval.
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CITY COUNCIL ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS – ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES
Mayor Zabel explained that this item is a follow up from a prior workshop discussion about
how the Council can provide direction to the advisory bodies at their appreciation dinners for
2024. He asked the Council to think about any additional areas that the advisory boards and
commissions should focus on outside of what is already outlined in their respective City Code.
Additionally, Mayor Zabel asked each Council Liaison to kick off their respective appreciation
dinner with a brief introduction, but stated staff would handle the agenda, if applicable.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the expectation for Council
Members to attend each appreciation dinner, Mayor Zabel said that due to scheduling
conflicts, it is unlikely every Council Member will be at every appreciation dinner; however,
they should strive to have at least three Council Members at each one.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about the Council Liaison assignments,
Mayor Zabel stated that there is no rule about whether they change or stay the same from
year-to-year as it is up to the current Council’s discretion. The assignments for 2024 were
unofficially determined and will be formally approved at the January 9, 2024 regular City
Council meeting.
Mayor Zabel asked each Council Member to look at their advisory bodies’ respective City Code
functions and duties section and get feedback on any changes as these responsibilities, along
with the work plans, which will drive the work for 2024 and could have 2025 budget
implications depending on what the advisory bodies bring to the Council. He further added
that these conversations will help ensure that the advisory bodies are working on what the
City Council would like them to work on.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about a future training regarding
Robert’s Rules of Order, meeting etiquette, etc., Ms. Volkers confirmed that staff is working
on this and it will be done with the advisory boards/council liaisons/staff liaisons.
Council Member Morcomb suggested that each Council Member think about and offer ideas
to bring to each advisory body for further discussion and/or direction. He asked about the
process for dissemination once these ideas are brought forth, particularly if he should bring
them to staff or the commission first. As an example, Council Member Morcomb mentioned
that there are possibly parks in the City that are seldom used so he would like feedback from
the Parks and Recreation Commission regarding the number of parks in the City. Mr. Gitzlaff
noted that the Parks System Master Plan will do an inventory of City parks and engage with
the community, and then provide recommendations to the City based on the information
gathered. Council Member Willenbring asked if the City can sell unused parks and develop
the land. It was confirmed that this is a possibility but there are many laws/rules pertaining.
Mayor Zabel offered various ideas about improvements to passive parks.
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In response to Council Member Willenbring’s comment about clarification of the Council
Liaison role, Ms. Volkers stated this conversation will help provide that clarification, but she
can also provide direction as needed.
MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION – CITY ENGINEER
City Engineer Jesse Farrell provided a high-level update on the 2024 Street Reconstruction
and Overlay Project, stating that the draft feasibility report is complete. He also noted that the
neighborhood meeting took place earlier in the month.
In response to Mayor Zabel’s question about the factors that affect the breakeven point of
maintenance costs versus replacement costs, Mr. Farrell explained that there have been
advancements in the measurement of pavement quality over the last few years, but typically
streets have a useful life of 25-30 years, with pavement condition being a good metric for
choosing replacement projects.
Mr. Farrell noted that the Finance and Engineering Departments are currently working on the
funding information for the 2024 Street Reconstruction and Overlay Project because the
typical assessment rate increase year-over-year has not kept up with inflation. In response to
Mayor Zabel’s question about this causing a change to the 2024 special assessments, Ms.
Volkers stated there is not enough data at this time, but if a change is needed then it will come
before Council for direction.
Mayor Zabel requested that, when possible and time appropriate, City staff look at revising
the current special assessment policy, specifically regarding the assessment of corner lots.
Mr. Farrell reported that Washington County is redoing 50th Street North which will affect the
abutting neighborhoods. This project may interfere with the City’s planned reconstruction of
the street, but City staff is working with Washington County to accommodate both projects.
Next, Mr. Farrell noted that the City is working with Bolton & Menk to study alternatives for
proper accommodation of pedestrians using 40th Street North to cross I-694.
Regarding the 2024/2025 Water Tower Project, Mr. Farrell said that project development has
begun. City staff met with the design team, and schedule adjustments are being considered
to reduce overall project costs, reduce operational risk, and accommodate
telecommunication relocation.
Lastly, Mr. Farrell spoke to the 2025 (and beyond) Street Reconstruction Projects, stating that
possible increased utility replacement expenses may necessitate reduced project scopes in
future years. Ms. Volkers added that staff are looking for additional funding sources for these
projects.
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Mayor Zabel suggested that the Council have a future discussion about adjusting the typical
street replacement schedule. Ms. Volkers stated that Mr. Farrell is doing this type of analysis
and will bring the results to Council for future consideration.
RECESS FOR REGULAR MEETING AT 6:50 PM
WORKSHOP RECONVENED AT 7:50 PM after Regular City Council Meeting
ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE
Ms. Volkers reported that she and Chief Newton met with Canvas Health to discuss a
partnership regarding a State application for grant funding for a Canvas Health mental health
employee to work alongside the Oakdale Police Department. Additionally, Ms. Volkers
discussed this with Washington County and they indicated they will discuss to partner with the
City to fill in any gaps related to mental health services. Selections for the state grant funding
will take place in fall 2024.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the monetary value of the grant,
Chief Newton said it can vary.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the effectiveness of this program
in other communities, Chief Newton noted there is no template for the best practice of this
partnership, but it is important for cities to have an avenue in which to follow up on mental
health related calls.
COUNCIL TOPICS
As a follow up from the October 24, 2023 workshop meeting, Council Member Morcomb
supported the suggestion that the City provide laptops to elected officials. Mayor Zabel was
supportive if there was a policy in place in which the taxpayers are not negatively affected if
the laptop is damaged and needs to be replaced. Ms. Volkers added that anyone who receives
a laptop from the City is required to sign Metro-Inet’s acceptable use policy and city equipment
can only be used for city work. She summarized that there was support for any elected official
who requests a laptop could be provided with one if they sign the acceptable use policy and
pay the wholesale replacement cost if it were damaged. Council Member Her clarified that the
laptop would be lent out during the elected official’s term and returned to the City when their
term is over so it can be provided to another elected official who may need it.
Council Member Ingebrigtson reported that he went on a ride-along with Police Sergeant Sean
Coffey and Police Officer Tim Wessels. Council Member Her requested a future police officer
ride-along. Ms. Volkers asked that he send her an email with possible dates so that can be
arranged.
Mayor Zabel encouraged the Council to attend a few upcoming community events – Winter
Wonderland, Firetruck Santa Visit, and Holiday Helping Hands.
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ADJOURNMENT
The workshop was adjourned at 8:03 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
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