Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingOconomowoc, WI · December 17, 2019
Minutes
Committee-Of-The-Whole Meeting Minutes
December 17, 2019
Mayor Nold called the Committee-of-the-Whole meeting to order at 6:24 PM.
Members Present: Aldermen Zwart, Strey, Kowieski, Rogers, Rosek Shaw, Ellis and Spiegelberg
Staff Present: Mayor Nold, Kitsembel, Freber, Osborn, Schuh, Sullivan, Pickart, Buerger, Duffy,
Frye, Gallo, Hoeppner, Rahn and Coenen
2a. Review/Discussion: Options for 630 E. Wisconsin Avenue Property:
Duffy reported Council discussed options for the utilization of the frontage area of the Public Safety facility
at 630 E. Wis Ave which included creation of an outlot for sale, recreational use, green space and parking.
Staff was directed to obtain commercial appraisals for the creation of a parcel and the value ranged from
$145K - $300K with both evaluations indicating the advantages were visibility, accessibility, and proximity
to the downtown, and negative effects included cost to provide infrastructure and small parcel size. Taco
Bell has parking easement rights within the proposed parcel area and those rights will need to be vacated
and/or transferred to another area of the public parking lot prior to pursuing a sale. This would require a
resolution by Plan Commission and Council for the sale of the parcel, the creation of a CSM and marketing
and sale of the proposed parcel. The costs related to the creation of a CSM is $2,750 in addition to
marketing and commission if we use a real estate firm. Ald. Kowieski proposed using the site for a
potential skate park location. Duffy stated the costs, timeline and funding source would need to be
explored if Council chooses to proceed with this use. In addition, Council previously asked staff to
investigate alternatives to provide additional parking in and around downtown. This area is approx. four
blocks from the downtown gateway entrance at the roundabout and given the walkability of our community
this lot could accommodate people attending events, as well as the parking demand associated with the
Lake Country Municipal Court for their court day operations. This area would provide an additional 30
parking stalls to the existing 1,040 on-street and public parking stalls the City provides to support
Downtown Oconomowoc. The Committee discussed Roosevelt Park as potentially being the best location
for a skateboard park, green space, the advantages of additional parking, cost to repave/resurface and
bidding out with the street projects. No action was taken.
2b. Discussion on City Engineer Services:
Frye reported as part of the strategic planning process the Council included a task to perform a high-level
review of Engineering Services in the 4th quarter of 2019. The goal is to determine how the City would like
to obtain these services in the future, either by use of a consultant, in-house staff or a combination of the
two. Prior to 1995, the City had an Engineer position and in 1995 the City underwent an RFP process and
hired Ruekert & Mielke (R-M) who has served as the City Engineer since. The scope of services performed
by R-M include attending Council, Utility & Plan Commission meetings; being the principal technical
advisor; private development review & oversight including approval of plans, specs, conducting inspections,
as-built survey, maps & records; engineering including Electric, Water & Wastewater Utilities; design &
prepare plans, profiles & specifications for all public works construction; assist in administering public works
contracts; oversee all public and private utility improvements; conduct final inspection of all public works
construction/maintenance; authorize work progress/final payments; monitor sanitary sewer district
agreements/make recommendations; review utility rates/make recommendations; implement Master Plan &
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zoning; and conduct special studies relating to public works development. In 2002 the City reviewed the
methodology of hiring an engineering firm with no changes made; in 2003 an RFP for Engineering Services
was considered with no directive to pursue and in 2010 an RFP was released for review of past
Engineering Services with one proposal received which was not approved. In addition, the City has
changed part of the scope of the City Engineer by adding a Utility Engineer position and initiating an RFP
process for engineering of large/definable projects. Frye stated engineer services can be categorized as
three major functions: City Engineer Functions; Private Developments and Commercial Projects (which are
billed back to the developer); and City Tasks/RFP Projects. A breakdown of the hours by engineering job
title for the work completed in 2018 was included in the memo. The Committee stated a better breakdown
of numbers and what it includes is needed, asked for a cost out for a full-time engineer, suggested use of
summer interns and information on hiring out services and billing back. Kitsembel stated staff will gather
more information and bring back a more detailed breakdown. No action was taken.
2c. Motion by Strey to convene into Closed Session, Per Wis Stats. §19.85(1)(c) Considering employment,
promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the
governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility regarding Employee Performance –
Water Utility; second by Ellis. Motion carried 8-0.
Motion by Strey to adjourn the Committee-of-the-Whole meeting; second by Ellis. Motion carried 8-0. The
meeting adjourned at 7:06 PM.
Minutes taken by
Diane Coenen, City Clerk
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Agenda
City of Oconomowoc
Committee-Of-The-Whole
REVISED
Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 6:35 PM
City Hall - Conference Room 3
Notice: If a person with a disability requires that the meeting be accessible or that materials at the
meeting be in accessible format, call the City Clerk at least 48 hours prior to the meeting to request
adequate accommodations. Tel: 569-2186.
1. Call to order and confirmation of appropriate meeting notification
2. Committee Business
a. Review/Discussion: Options for 630 E. Wisconsin Avenue Property
b. Discussion on City Engineer Services
c. Closed Session:
Per Wis Stats. §19.85((1)(c) Considering employment, promotion, compensation or
performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has
jurisdiction or exercises responsibility (Employee Performance - Water Utility)
3. Adjourn
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Diane Coenen, City Clerk
City of Oconomowoc
Notice is hereby given that a majority of the Common Council will be present at the above scheduled meeting to gather information
about a subject over which they have decision-making responsibility. This constitutes a meeting of the Common Council pursuant to
State ex rel. Badke v. Greendale Village Board, 173Wis. 2d 553, 494 N.W. 2d 408 (1993) and must be noticed as such, although the
Common Council will not take any formal action at this meeting.
MEMORANDUM
Date: December 3, 2019
To: Committee of the Whole members
Sarah Kitsembel, City Administrator
From: Bob Duffy, Economic Development & Tourism Director
Craig Hoeppner, Park, Recreation & Forestry Director
Mark Frye, Public Works Director
Re: Potential use of lands at 630 E. Wisconsin Avenue
RELATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN
Strategic Goal - III. Focus on Economic Development
A. Research and Plan for Development
2. Plan for Catalytic Development areas
a. E. Wisconsin Avenue
BACKGROUND
During discussions related to the Public Safety facility at 630 E. Wisconsin Avenue, the City Council discussed
various options for the utilization of the frontage area of the property. At the October 1, 2019 Committee of the
Whole meeting direction was given to obtain a couple of commercial appraisals before any further decisions were
made.
The options discussed by the Committee of the Whole included:
Creation of an out lot on the east side of the property similar to the existing parcel west of the entrance.
Recreational use as a Skate park facility.
Green space area.
Excess parking to support demand during community events and activities.
Out Lot Creation
As a result, City staff reached out to 7 real estate firms to compile a competitive market analysis if the
opportunity was pursued to create an out lot for commercial purposes. What is envisioned is a .38 acre parcel,
and based on zoning could accommodate a future structure and parking for the potential future use.
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Two firms responded with their thoughts related to the creation of parcel and indicated a value ranging from
$145,000 - $300,000. Both evaluations indicated the advantages to the site were visibility, accessibility, and its
proximity to the vibrant downtown. Several factors that will negatively affect the sale price of the parcel include
cost to provide infrastructure, as well as the small parcel size which may impact the opportunity for a drive-thru
and/or national franchise restaurants.
Currently, the Taco Bell has parking easement rights within the proposed parcel area. Those easement rights will
need to be vacated and/or transferred to another area of the public parking lot prior to pursuing a sale.
If interested in this option, there will need to be resolution approvals by the Plan Commission and City Council for
the sale of this portion public property, the creation of a lot, and the process interested to follow for the
marketing and sale of the proposed parcel.
The City will also incur costs related to the creation of the certified survey map, as well marketing and
commissions for the sale of the parcel if it is chosen to use a real estate firm. Funds would need to be allocated
for the creation of the certified survey map in the amount of $2,750.
Recreational Use
Suggestion has been made related to the recreational use of some lands for a potential skate park location. The
below image was provided by Alderman Kowieski to illustrate a vision of that potential use. Costs, timeline and
funding source would need to be explored if the Council chooses to proceed with this use.
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Excess Parking
City Council has asked staff to investigate alternatives available to provide additional parking in and around
downtown. This area is approximately four blocks from the downtown gateway entrance at the roundabout.
Given the walkability of our community this lot would be accommodating for those attending events, as well as
the parking demand associated with the Lake Country Municipal Court for their court day operations. This area
would provide an additional 30 parking stalls to the existing 1,040 on-street and public parking stalls the City
provides to support Downtown Oconomowoc.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff is seeking City Council direction and determination related to the options investigated.
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MEMORANDUM
PUBLIC WORKS
Date: December 17, 2019
To: Committee of the Whole
From: Sarah Kitsembel, City Administrator
Mark Frye, Director of Public Works
Re: Engineering Services Review
RELATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN
Strategic Plan:
V. Enhance the Effectiveness of Our City Government
A. Develop/Updates/Maintain City Ordinances/Policies
5. Review and Analyze Engineering Services (outsource vs. in-house)
BACKGROUND
As part of the strategic planning process the Council included a task to perform a high level review
of Engineering Services in the fourth quarter of 2019. The goal of this item is to determine how the City
would like to obtain these services in the future, either by use of a consultant, in-house staff or a
combination of the two.
HISTORY
Prior to 1995, the City had a City Engineer staff position. In 1995 the City underwent an RFP
process and hired Ruekert & Mielke as the City Engineer, who has served as the City Engineer since that
time. The City had a good response to the RFP with 10 firms responding and 4 firms interviewed. The
Selection Committee made a unanimous recommendation to hire Ruekert & Mielke. The scope of services
of the City Engineer defined in the RFP included 42 areas of responsibility/tasks which are summarized
below.
• Attend Council, Utility, Plan Commission meetings
• Principal technical advisor to City
• Private development review & oversight including approval of plans, specs, conducting inspections,
as-built survey, maps & records
• Engineering including Electric, Water & Wastewater Utilities
• Design & prepare plans, profiles & specifications for all public works construction
• Assist in administering public works contracts
• Oversee all public and private utility improvements
• Conduct final inspection of all public works construction/maintenance
• Authorize work progress/final payments
• Monitor sanitary sewer district agreements/make recommendations
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• Review utility rates/make recommendations
• Implement City Master Plan & Zoning
• Conduct special studies relating to public works development
Over the years the City has reviewed the use of an engineering consultant, summarized below.
• 2002 – Methodology of hiring engineering firm reviewed – no changes made
• 2003 – Consideration of RFP for Engineering Services – no directive to pursue
• 2010 – RFP released for Review of Past Engineering Services
• 1 proposal received – Kunkel Engineering $145,000, proposal not approved
In addition the City has changed part of the scope of the City Engineer consulting services over the years,
summarized below.
• 2010 – Utility Engineer Position Added (Hired November 2010)
• 2011 – Initiated RFP Process for Engineering of Large/Definable Projects
ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS
One way to look at the City Engineer services is to categorize them into three major functions: City
Engineer Functions, Private Developments and Commercial Projects (which are billed back to the
developer), and City Tasks/RFP Projects. This work entails a variety of skilled positions to support the City.
To assist in understanding this variety, we’ve provided a breakdown of the hours by engineering job title
for the work completed in the most recent year, 2018. The breakout is based on the three major categories
of work shown above.
Engineering Services Hour Summary
Private
City Tasks
City Engineer Developments Total
Engineering Job Title and RFP
Functions and Commercial Hours
Projects
Projects
Administrative Assistant 4 41 149 195
Construction Review 15 3310 2860 6184
Engineer 529 279 2289 3098
Engineering Tech 48 657 905 1610
IT/GIS Analyst 23 16 214 253
Professional Land Surveyor 23 5 97 125
Senior Water Coordinator 1 0 101 102
Survey 4 72 1163 1238
Total Hours 648 4379 7778 12805
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FINANCIAL IMPACT
Below is a chart of the amounts paid to our City Engineering Firm from 2009-2018. The costs for the City
Engineer functions remain fairly steady through the years ranging from $112,033 - $203,847 annually,
averaging $148,148/year. As you might expect the amounts paid for the work on private developments
and commercial projects are more variable ranging from $27,300 - $358,373, fluctuating with the rate of
development growth in the community. And finally the City tasks & RFP projects also fluctuate depending
on the amount of projects in a given year.
Engineering Services Expense Summary
Engineering Services Expense Summary
Private
$1,500,000
City Developments City Tasks
Engineer & Commercial & RFP Total $1,250,000
Functions Projects Projects Payments
$1,000,000
2018 $125,510 $358,373 $826,550 $1,310,435
2017 $181,717 $310,251 $516,166 $1,008,136 $750,000
2016 $126,969 $251,766 $544,330 $923,067
2015 $121,653 $103,933 $466,636 $692,224 $500,000
2014 $155,281 $211,043 $747,515 $1,113,840 $250,000
2013 $135,432 $18,158 $522,295 $675,915
2012 $154,970 $39,414 $599,853 $794,239 $0
2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009
2011 $164,065 $65,598 $565,101 $792,766
2010 $112,033 $27,300 $533,431 $672,765 City Engineer Functions
2009 $203,847 $102,736 $1,456,811 $1,763,396 Private Developments & Commercial Projects
Average $148,148 $148,857 $677,869 $974,678 City Tasks & RFP Projects
RECOMMENDATION
This initial meeting regarding Engineering Services was intended to be informative regarding the history of
engineering services and the number of hours and differing skill levels involved to provide the services.
Discussion amongst the Committee is warranted to arrive at a consensus of how Staff should proceed.
There are a variety of options the Committee could consider. Options could include further analysis of
bringing some of the engineering services in house which would require further research to determine
costs of wage/benefits, hardware/software, working space requirements and other ancillary costs.
SUGGESTED MOTION
N/A
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