Marshall N. White Center Advisory Committee

Marshall N. White Center Advisory Committee Meeting Meeting Results October 8th, 2021 Electronic Via Zoom Meeting 4:00 PM 222 28th St, Ogden, Utah 84401 Call to Order  Vice Chair Sean Bishop called the meeting to order at 4:10pm Attendees: Present Absent Ron White (entered late) Gerod Sawyer Camille Cook Sara Yearsley Sean Bishop Tanner Koons Todd Skeen Priscilla Martinez Gerod Sawyer Clairesse Miljour Edd Bridge Regina Esparza Tom Debole Whitney Ward – VCBO Approval of Minutes from 9-8-2021  Member Tanner Koons motioned to approve the 9-08-2021 minutes, Member Priscilla Martinez 2nd the motion, motion to approve passed with no opposition. 1. New Business a. Letter from City Council  Sabrina Lee read the letter from City Council aloud. Committee members engaged in an open discussion about the Council asking the committee to conduct a 2nd survey in which we ask the community where they want to see a recreational center, and if it is not at the current location of the Marshal N. White Center, then what do they want to see happen to the current Marshall N. White Center.  Vice Chair Sean Bishop concerns with doing a second survey and confusing the community and creating issues with our transparency.  Priscilla Martinez voiced concern as to the Council not being specific as to who they want us to reach out to, and concern by a 2nd survey that invalidates those that took the first one and confuse the community with a 2nd survey.  Tanner Koons voiced being surprised with the letter as to the committee getting this far and then missing the mark. He suggested that we get more clarification from the Council directly as to what they want prior to proceeding.  Claireese questioned if we need to talk to someone at the city about future plans for a rec center and the idea of it being at the Marshall White Center doesn’t fit those plans. What is the plan that Ogden is going to do? What are the options of a different location so we know what to ask the community? Clairesse questioned if a 2nd survey would make it look  as if we are not being transparent and mentioned the community may begin to ask questions about the YMCA Center doing a rec center and replacing the Marshall White.  Member Tom Debole shared the YMCA stance that they are not moving forward with a recreational center until the Marshall White center is resolved. He was under the understanding that we were supposed to come up with different options for the Marshall White Center being a rec center, a community center a multicultural center, and feels that from day one the committee was always driven to be a rec center. Tom stated that that is the architects’ job, to get our business and build a rec center, he feels the committee was pushed that way from day one. He stated that the Y paid for a professional needs assessment pre-Covid looked at 3 locations, Lester Park, Harrison and Marshall White. He stated the issue is not building a building, but whether or not that building can be sustainable. The Y can fundraise to build a building, but will it be sustainable by memberships or grants. Harrison would sustain itself the most, but the Y looked more towards Lester Park because of being able to charge lesser rates. He announced that there have been talks in the last month between a partnership where funding can come from different entities, the Y, Boys and Girls Club, and United Way, to build a rec center. The Boys and Girls Club would have a part of the building, the city would help fund it and the Y would have a big part of that. His recommendation would be a Marshall White Family YMCA built at Lester Park, and this is the talk that you may have heard about in the last few weeks because there is some money through COVID that can be gotten fairly quickly. They will be doing another market analysis needs assessment to the community and Marshall White will be on that, if that is the location a rec center should be. The Y can raise between 8 and 10 mil, the United Way Boys and Girls club can raise another portion and the City will hopefully kick in some money once the Marshall White Center is settled. The Y is waiting for the Marshal White to be settled but in the meantime will be doing another post Covid market analysis.  Sean mentioned that he wondered if we can use the data we have from our survey. The mission of the committee is to fulfill the CIP and the giving of different options was not something he was aware of until the letter came back. We need to focus on getting the city council what they have asked for.  Edd agreed that we need to move forward, he stated that it’s the first time he is hearing what Tom is talking about. That we ask the community and move forward  Whitney Ward of VCBO pulled up the percentage data from the survey regarding what the community wanted ie. recreation, arts, aquatic etc. She wanted to note that they did not presume that a rec center was going to be the highest priority in the survey, but recreational and sports programs did emerge in the survey as the highest priority.  Vice Chair Sean Bishop suggested that we could possibly use this data rather than go out with another survey.  The committee began to ask questions to Tom about the needs assessment and what it asks and who does it, if it has a demographic portion and ethnicity breakdown. Tom responded that all of that is in the pre Covid assessment. He thinks that a rec center is something done together. They discussed how a partnership was not an option before, but now it might be now, and Tanner Koons suggested that we need to include the council into the conversation now.  Member Priscilla Martinez wanted to make sure that we are not pushing an agenda. That it needs to come from the community. Its not the city council, its not us deciding, we did a survey for the community, and we need to make sure that we do our best to validate those opinions.  Sean suggested doing different options with the information we have from our survey because that is what the community wanted to go ahead and do renderings based on what came in 2nd and 3rd on the survey we already done. But he is not sure if that is how we can go forward.   Toss Skeen brought up if the city can afford 2 knew buildings, the building is old it has lived its life. Sean responded that it gets into what the city will and won’t do which we cannot predict.  Tanner asked who makes the final decision, Todd responded it’s the council and administration. Sabrina asked if it has to go to bond for a vote by the community, Todd agreed if they have to bod and don’t have the full 30 million. Tanner was concerned that we have already gotten the community excited for a rec center with the survey.  Sean will ask Edd if we can do an informal meet with the council. There was some question if the council wanted us to go to the entire city.  Claireese wanted to know what all the questions of why the building be sustainable and lots of cities have rec centered that the city funds and why is it the Y that has to do it.  Whitney Ward excused herself to leave the meeting she had to leave.  Todd mentioned the November 9th work session that the Marshall Center is on the agenda.  Tanner suggested if we may need to do a special meeting, but that can be talked about via email. Sean asked about the November elections. Todd responded that Ron will become the past chair, Sean will become chair and we will need to vote next month on Sean’s position as vice chair. 2. Committee Reports a. Community Outreach Committee – Priscilla Martinez  Chair Priscilla Martinez reported that the committee has not met. b. Programming Committee – Tanner Koons  Chair Tanner Koons reported that the committee has not met.  Todd did mention that he had someone approach him about doing a Hawaiian Dance class and already has a following with no place to do it. He asked the committees thoughts on it. Todd thinks we could make it happen – a 6 week 8 week class with a showcase after. c. Legacy Committee – Clairesse Miljour  Chair Clairesse Miljour reported that the committee has not met. 3. Public Comment – Limit to 3 minutes per person  Participants are to state their name for the record.  Comments which cannot be made within these limits should be submitted in writing to the committee at 1875 Monroe Blvd or by email (marshallwhiteadvisorycommittee@ogdencity.com)  Suzanne Daily • Suzanne asked Tom Debole what the racial makeup of the YMCA Board and administration. o Tom asked her to clarify the question a few times, Suzanne re-worded the question and then responded that she could discuss it with him later. • She asked if the YMCA survey was available to go through and how equitable it was to make sure it is getting all demographics o Tom responded that he can have a copy emailed by his staff.  Betty Sawyer • Betty voiced her concern with the sustainability discussion. She reminded the committee that tax money has already been allocated to the Marshall White Center. The center has been deemed a public good and is already being funded. She cautioned the committee to not get caught up if it can sustain itself, it is a space for all. Vice Chair Sean Bishop called for a motion to adjourn, Chair Ronald White motioned to adjourn, Member Tanner Koons 2nd the motion, meeting adjourned with no opposition. 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