Sustainability Committee
Regular MeetingOgden, UT · August 27, 2020
Minutes
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Natural Resources and Sustainability Stewardship Advisory Committee held Thursday, August 27,
2020 at 4:00 p.m. via electronic web conferencing in accordance with Utah Code 52-4-202. Pursuant to a written determination by the
Committee Chair finding that conducting the meeting with an anchor location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those
who may be present due to the infectious and potentially dangerous nature of COVID-19 virus.
Members Present: Heather Root Adam Tobey
Bonnie Christiansen Bill Hackett
Joe Linford Pearl Marden
Rachel Ballard Stephen St. Peter
David Stevenson
Members Excused: Chase Wilson
Ex-Officio: Jay Lowder Amy Mabey
Leesa Brinkerhoff
Guest: Mara Brown – Ogden City Attorney
CALL TO ORDER / WELCOME / ROLL CALL
• Heather welcomed the committee members and called the meeting to order.
• Leesa called the roll.
APPROVAL OF JULY 23rd MEETING MINUTES
• Heather asked if there were any recommended changes to the July 23rd meeting minutes. There were none.
She asked if someone would like to motion to approve. Bill moved to approve, and Joe seconded the motion.
The meeting minutes were approved unanimously.
OGDEN CITY SUSTAINABILITY NEWS – JAY LOWDER
• Jay told the committee that Heather did an outstanding job representing the committee in the sunset
presentation to the city council.
• We presented our current recycling status at the council work session on Tuesday. We are still recommending
to administration that the city continue to move forward with Recycled Earth, but they do have to be in
compliance. We will move forward and try to negotiate and work this situation out, but if we reach in impasse,
we’re working on plan B, which is Integrated Waste Management in Layton. Once we receive actual numbers for
this new operation, Jay will bring them to the committee for consideration and endorsement. The only reason
we would go to plan B, is if Recycled Earth doesn’t comply with the conditional use permit. If they would
comply today, we would be hauling to them tomorrow.
• We’re continuing to finish up our ESCO Project. We had some issues with some of the streetlight LEDs, but
that’s been corrected. We will see a big energy savings from this project.
RECAP OF SUNSET REPORT PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL – HEATHER ROOT
• Heather presented what the committee has been working on during the past year and told them that we’ll
continue in our missions. They asked several questions. Council Chair Choberka asked how we can better
handle communication and outreach, such as the recent situation with recycling. Heather asked the
Community Outreach and Education Subcommittee to think about ways we can handle it differently in the
future.
• Heather asked the committee if they had any questions. Stephen asked if it could be accessed to watch. Amy
said yes, and she will send out the link.
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• Four of the council members specifically thanked the committee for the work they have been doing.
REPORT ON UTAH 100 COMMUNITIES MEETING – AMY MABEY
• We had our 3rd all communities meeting on August 14th. We had more representatives than any other
community. Overall, it was a good discussion. They’re trying to work through a path that all communities can
agree upon.
• Amy is on a governance agreement subcommittee that meets every other week to discuss how we can
formulate a plan and organizational structure to move this forward. The intent is to get moving toward a
consideration of an agreement in December. From there, they are going to be encouraging communities to find
funding for their fiscal years, with counties on calendar years.
• They are looking at a cost model that would reflect population and electric utility usage. Ogden is anticipated
to be in the higher cost tier due to the amount of industrial we have compared to other communities. Our
electricity usage is currently a spilt of industrial, residential, and commercial. They are looking at the cost to be
divided over multiple years, so that it doesn’t have as big of an impact on communities during the pandemic.
Jay and Amy indicated that the cost estimates at this time are rough and not yet ready for public distribution.
Noticing costs will be the city’s responsibility. Amy said the costs are dependent on participation of the other
communities. With it being based on electricity usage and the population, we’re probably going to be one of the
higher payors.
• Bill asked if the study will be conducted through a 3rd party or in house. Amy said they are looking at some in
house, but are looking at bringing in some legal representation and some contractors to help with the process.
• Heather asked how we will know if our industrial power users are interested in participating in this. Amy said
they have had some discussion about it on the governance agreement. She feels as this process moves along
there will be some connecting with people. It may be prior to a city decision, or it may be connecting with the
users to see what level of interest they have. Heather asked if it’s something our Government and Private
Partnership Subcommittee could be working on, or should we put it off until we know more. Amy said there
needs to be some internal discussion on it to determine that. She added that we don’t want to get too ahead of
the process if things change. In working with the other communities, we’ll have the same materials using the
same approach.
• Bill asked if the Ogden industrial community has an organization or spokesperson, or do they deal with this
individually. Jay said some do, some don’t. BDO has a group that talks about their operations, but the Ogden
Industrial Park does not.
• David said he and a representative from Clean Energy Utah met with the Ogden Weber Chamber of Commerce
and asked this very question. They wanted to find out if there is a specific group or several organizations that
represent either the industrial or commercial component. It sounds like the chamber is one group that could
help, possibly with the governance agreement. Amy agreed and said she liked Heather’s suggestion as well.
• Bonnie said there are groups that are coordinated by a large energy users’ groups. Weber State is one of those.
She doesn’t know who else is, but offered to do a little digging. Amy said that would be useful information to
have.
• Stephen asked what the timelines would be. Amy said she will set up a meeting with their subgroup and will try
to have this information to the committee for the next meeting.
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SUBCOMMITTEE PROGRESS REPORTS – COMMITTEE MEMBERS
Heather asked if there were any subcommittees that would like to report.
Government and Private Partnership
• Nothing at this time.
Air Quality and Climate
• Bonnie said she was happy to represent the subcommittee’s work in response to the council’s request on air
quality and climate. She said the group considered it on a broad level and how they could recommend and
move the city forward to make sure our citizens can breathe fresh and clean air, and pursue healthier lives.
• She shared the draft proposal for review with the committee.
• With all the technological changes that are coming, the emissions from vehicles are going to be reduced.
However, with a growing population, as well as buildings, we still won’t have what’s considered healthy clean air
here along the Wasatch Front in 30 years. The group looked for some impactful things that could be done with
local leadership and came up with six broad recommendations:
1. Address Air Quality and Climate Challenges Together
Both air quality and climate overlap and many of them are things our citizens are concerned about.
Air quality continues to be a top concern to Utahns and the reason why many people don’t want to
move to Utah.
More and more people are concerned about climate. Over half the population in Weber County are
interested in local governments taking a role in this.
2. Make an Ambitious Goal
Some cities have made ambitious goals and exceeded those goals.
Bill concurred that having an ambitious goal as opposed to an easy goal is a key point. He said it’s
encouraging to see a list of other municipalities that have set these goals with them being right on track or
ahead of schedule.
3. Hire Dedicated Sustainability Staff
To help move the goals forward, we are recommending 2 different staff positions; one is an Energy
Manager, and the other would be a Sustainability or Environmental Manager.
Bill said the subcommittee feels that for the Energy Manager, someone with an engineering background
and understanding of the technical aspects to putting a plan together would be preferred. This includes
cost estimates, creating an infrastructure and the human resources necessary for the plan to move
forward. The other position would be more of a coordinator role to roll out the implementation and carry
out the terms of the climate action plan for the municipality.
David asked if there was any input from Jay, Amy or Leesa regarding budgets, staffing, and priorities for
this recommendation.
Jay said, as discussed before, right now is a very difficult time as the city is trying to take care of its
employees. We have a limited budget right now, and before we add other employees, we need to make
sure to take care of our existing employees.
David asked if there are any suggestions of how the committee can make this recommendation.
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Jay said the fact that the committee is recommending the positions be partially funded from grants, but
they need to be funded ongoing, otherwise they end up coming out of the general fund. If it’s a sustainable
grant to fund the positions, it’s solid ground and savings can come out of it.
Our ESCO Project took a lot of low hanging fruit off the table and the savings we’re going to get from the
project have to actually pay for the improvements that it did.
Bonnie asked Jay if the subcommittee can set up some time to talk to him about the project in terms of
how much is going back to pay for it and possibly to recoup things going forward. Jay said yes and to
know that we’ve structured the ESCO Project to pay back in 10 years.
Amy said she concurs with Jay in that they included other funding sources. We’ve had some discussion in
the past when working with Utah Clean Energy and we’ve struggled to come up with sustainable funding.
Recommending the position be part-time to begin with may be a good way to lead. A well thought out and
prepared proposal, as the committee is doing, will help in consideration.
David said, number one is we can point to specific savings that are likely to happen because the person’s
on board and can pay for itself. Number two is, if we can point to the fact that we’ve got outside funding
that pays for the positions and the outside funding won’t stop in a year, it might be an additional reason
the council may approve.
David went on to say that a concern discussed by the subcommittee, is if we are able to bring someone on
as a Sustainability and Environment Manager, would they only focus on the air issues and climate, or
would they really be a sustainability and environmental manager and able to do other things. They
concluded that the position would be involved in pollution prevention projects generally through the city.
What the subcommittee is proposing, is the position is not just focused on air quality, but could coordinate
pollution prevention and reduction efforts across all the communities.
Jay said the environmental concern isn’t just for Ogden City. It’s also for Weber County, so these positions
could also be looked at as a coalition. If Ogden makes these changes and no one else does, we haven’t
solved all of the problems. The cost can be spread in doing it this way.
Heather suggested that the city could select any of these goals and the committee can perform a more in-
depth analysis, adding that focusing on fewer things may yield better results.
4. Provide Sustainability Training for City Staff
The city has some work going on with this, but it’s felt more can be done with additional training
provided.
It helps to have an internal champion, such as a Sustainability Manager.
Heather added that this is what cities, who are making a lot of progress, are doing and it’s well-established,
so there’s some good templates to follow.
5. Include Air Quality and Climate on All Operational and Citywide Planning
Engage city employees and ONRSSC members to educate, create awareness, and seek opportunities
to incorporate things such as:
o Transportation planning and fleet purchases
o Building design and construction, operations, and maintenance
o Purchasing (office, electronics, and other city supplies)
o Landscaping equipment
o Sold and hazardous waste minimization and diversion
o Water waste
o Water quality
6. Electrify Ogden
Prioritize electrifying vehicles, as they are the main source of air quality issues
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Start to electrify buildings, which is a much longer process
• Heather asked if there were any questions or comments.
• Stephen asked if the document is considered public. Jay said it has to be approved by council first for it to be a
public document. For now, it’s considered a draft and should not be shared with anyone outside of the
committee. As a final draft it can be voted on as a committee recommendation. Then administration will put
together a council transmittal with the recommendation and present it to council for consideration and
adoption. Once it’s adopted, it’s public document.
• Mara said it can be discussed among committee members and determine a timeline for completion. She told
Heather that she appreciates her noting that there are a number of options and a number of ways to move
forward without having to be implemented all at once. Mara thought the training option was a good one to train
existing employees.
• Heather invited the committee members to provide their comments. She asked that revisions suggestions
from the full committee be sent by September 10th and the subcommittee will work to incorporate those
suggestions for the next full committee meeting.
• Bonnie asked who the comments should be sent to. Heather said both her and Bonnie.
Water Quality, Supply and Conservation
• Nothing at this time.
Solid and Hazardous Waste Reduction and Recycling
• David said he met earlier this year with Chuck Leonhardt, President and CEO of the Ogden Weber Chamber of
Commerce and talked with him about doing a pollution prevention award, where the mayor would issue an
award to industrial and commercial folks within our city. They are continuing to work on this.
• David expressed his concern regarding the current situation with our recycling program. He acknowledged that
committee members and most of the public advocate recycling, noting that Ogden has an excellent recycling
program. He also acknowledged the compliance issues with Recycled Earth. He asked if there is anything the
committee can do to advocate or recommend that might help the gridlock stop, or perhaps a survey to find out
if city residents would be willing to pay more for the process to work.
• Jay said he doesn’t believe there’s a need for a survey because the city has already committed to cover the
additional cost of recycling. However, he feels it’s important for the community to be proactive and get the
word out to reduce the contamination rates. Since COVID, our tonnage numbers have gone up 1,900 tons
increasing our contamination rates as much as 30% or more. He said the committee can come up with a
proposal and recommendation to help with outreach to educate the residents on what’s recyclable and what’s
not, to include the state of recycling and the market.
• Bonnie said we may want to do something broader and include how to reduce waste overall.
• Mara suggested that we can remind the Ogden citizens that they can take their recycling directly to Bloom
Recyclers as an interim option. They have a host friendly website with kids’ information.
• Stephen asked if there is a way to measure actual waste vs. recyclables for individual residents to use as a way
to promote changing behavior. Jay said we don’t have the individual metrics, but it’s possible to break it out by
routes.
• David said that the timing may not be right to do this. It’s a political issue and one of the few things that the
public are really attuned to. He feels the outreach that Jay suggested would be best at this time until the
recycling situation is straightened out.
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• Adam said his perception from the small circle he is in, is that it would fall on deaf ears because people
wouldn’t care about sorting until the recycling issue is worked out. This may be something that should wait
too, but he does like the idea of getting out some information on reduction of waste, reusable containers, or
sorting aluminum cans and taking them to a scrap metal place.
Sustainable Energy
• Nothing at this time.
Open Space
• Nothing at this time.
Education and Community Outreach
• Adam said he’s not aware of the posts he and Chase asked to be sent out. Leesa said one was posted on the
city website and the other was posted on Facebook. She suggested looking at a process to confirm when posts
are completed. Adam agreed and said they will discuss it in their next subcommittee meeting.
COMMITTEE OPEN DISCUSSION
• Stephen said he has a Green Drinks network on September 10th that he’s going to do on Zoom. He held a few of
these last year, one of which had representation from the city teaching on recycling. He invited the committee
to join and present their individual areas of experience and/or expertise. It’s already on Facebook.
• Heather said she is going to start reaching out to the subcommittee chairs to see how things are going. Her
intent is to do a better job of coordinating with the subcommittees to find out if they will need any time at the
meetings and if they’re hitting roadblocks. If they are hitting roadblocks, she will find out who, within the city
staff can help them
• Heather met with Jay, Mara, Amy, and Leesa to sort out the functions of the committee. They presented an
idea of, in the next few months, having dedicated strategic planning sessions instead of the monthly meetings.
Heather supports this and asked the committee for their input.
• Bonnie said it would be nice to have the new members there. Heather agreed and said the committee member
recommendation forms are on the mayor’s desk.
• Bill said he is in strong favor of looking at the big picture and putting together a strategic plan. He feels it’s a
worthwhile activity that should be done periodically.
• Joe asked if this is something we would hold once per quarter. Heather said she is thinking of doing it in
October or November with the intention of cooperatively deciding on some top priorities committee wide. This
may result in some subcommittees knowing that they don’t have to act really quickly and may help other
subcommittees have some sense of what to be focusing on. The intention would be to identify goals for the
year, and it should be done once per year.
• Bill said it makes sense to him to do it once per year.
• Heather said it would not be a public meeting, but rather a brainstorming session.
• David offered his company’s large conference room for the meeting. It seats about 24 people. He’d be glad to
host the meeting and provide refreshments. They are located on Harrison at 46th South, right across from the
Ogden Clinic.
PUBLIC COMMENT
• No public comment
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DELIVERABLES FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH MEETING
• Heather will touch base with the subcommittee chairs before the next meeting.
• Committee members were asked to review the air quality proposal and submit any comments to Heather and
Bonnie by September 10th. The subcommittee will incorporate comments into the draft document. The
committee will review the final document at the next committee meeting and will consider voting on it.
ADJOURNMENT
• Heather asked if anyone was willing to motion to adjourn the meeting. Bonnie motioned to move, and Bill
seconded it.
• With no further business, Heather adjourned the meeting at 5:40 p.m.
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
HEather Root
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________________
HEather Root (Oct 28, 2020 11:21 MDT)
Jay M. Lowder Heather Root, Chair
Ogden City Public Services Director
Date Approved: 10-22-2020
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Agenda
AGENDA
OGDEN CITY NATURAL RESOURCES AND SUSTAINABILITY STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE
August 27, 2020 – 4:00 p.m.
Join by phone: 1-253-215-8782, Conference ID: 849 6461 2140, Password: 784814
1) Welcome – Heather Root, Chair (2 minutes)
2) Call to Order / Roll Call (2 minutes)
3) Approval of July 23rd Meeting Minutes – Committee Members (2 minutes)
4) Ogden City Sustainability News – Jay Lowder (5 minutes)
5) Recap of Sunset Report Presentation to Council – Heather Root (5 minutes)
6) Report on Utah 100 Communities Meeting – Amy Mabey (5 minutes)
7) Subcommittees Progress Reports - Committee Members (5 minutes each)
• Air Quality and Climate Subcommittee
• Other subcommittee updates
8) Open Discussion – Committee Members (15 minutes)
9) Public Comment (10 minutes)
10) Assign Deliverables for September 24th Meeting – Heather Root, Chair (2 minutes)
11) Adjournment
Public meetings of the Ogden City Natural Resources and Sustainability Stewardship Committee will be held electronically in accordance
with Utah Code section 52-4-202. Pursuant to a written determination by the Committee Chair finding that conducting the meeting
with an anchor location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those who may be present due to infectious and
potentially dangerous nature of COVID-19 virus, public meetings will be held electronically for the next thirty (30) days.
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