Sustainability Committee
Regular MeetingOgden, UT · April 22, 2021
Minutes
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Natural Resources and Sustainability Stewardship Advisory Committee held Thursday, April 22, 2021
at 4:00 p.m. via electronic web conferencing in accordance with Utah Code 52-4-202. Pursuant to a written determination by the
Committee Chair finding that conducting the meeting with an anchor location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those
who may be present due to the infectious and potentially dangerous nature of COVID-19 virus.
Members Present: Heather Root Adam Tobey
Bonnie Christiansen Bill Hackett
Joe Linford
Members Excused: Rachel Ballard Pearl Marden
David Stevenson Stephen St. Peter
Ex-Officio: Jay Lowder Leesa Brinkerhoff
Guests: Jeremy Shinoda Jenn Bodine
CALL TO ORDER / WELCOME / ROLL CALL
• Heather welcomed the committee members and called the meeting to order.
• Leesa called the roll.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 25th MEETING MINUTES
• Heather asked if there were any recommended changes to the March 25th meeting minutes. There were none.
Heather asked if someone would like to motion to approve them. Joe motioned to approve and Bill seconded
the motion. The meeting minutes were approved unanimously.
UPDATES – JAY LOWDER, PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR
New member recommendations update
• There were 3 recommendations made, one of which was for our business partner. Leesa put together the
required documentation and Jay forwarded them to the CAO. They are under review with Mara Brown, our new
Management Services Director, to ensure they meet the criterion in the recently amended committee ordinance.
Once approved, they will be forwarded to the council.
• Today, David Stephenson resigned his position on the committee, leaving another vacancy.
• Heather asked if we have an open call out for applicants right now, or do we have an applicant pool, or do we
need to advertise for more applicants.
• Leesa said that there is an applicant interest form on the council website, but we’ve only received 3 inquires
since posting it a while back. She said it needs to be moved to a new location on the city’s website where it’s
easier to find. She will work to get that moved.
• Jay said we want to make sure we have diversity in members representing all districts in the city.
• Heather asked if Adam could put out a media post. Jay said yes, and he will work with Adam on it.
• Bonnie asked if the districts needing representation have been identified. Leesa said she will find out and email
it to the committee.
• Leesa said Rachel and Pearl’s memberships on the committee expire in April. Adam said he has spoken with a
few high school students who may be interested.
Air Quality Recommendations status
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• Jay said the recommendations were forwarded to the CAO, who forwarded them to council. The council will put
it on their calendar at their discretion. Administration has no control over that. When a date is set, the chair
will present it to council in a work session. Jay will be there to assist. After which, council will schedule it for
an open session to vote on it with public input.
• Bonnie said that she noticed that HB 411 is on the agenda for next Tuesday’s work session. She is concerned
that the council hasn’t heard from this committee. She would like to request she be a part of it to give input
and answer questions.
• Bill asked if the work sessions are open to the committee. Jay said yes, but there is no public comment in the
work sessions, only in the open general sessions.
Dominion Energy Joint Agreement status
• Gary Williams, our city attorney, is reviewing the draft of the agreement. He is also working on a franchise
agreement with Dominion Energy which takes priority over the joint agreement.
• Heather asked Jay if there is anything the committee can help with to progress it. Jay said no, not at this point.
• Bonnie said her understanding is, after Dominion reviewed the draft, most everything was redlined except for
the fact that they would be willing to work with us to reach out to underserved communities. She asked Jay if
that’s how he read it. Jay said yes.
ENERGY WISE OGDEN PROJECT UPDATE – JENN BODINE, WEBER STATE UNIVERSITY
• Jenn told the committee that she was attending the meeting to talk about the Energy Wise strategic
implementation plan that was approved last July. They are setting up implementation committees headed by
various chairs.
• The plan is divided in three sections and has goals and strategies listed for each. The three sections are:
1. Municipal sector
Goals: Cost effective decrease in average energy intensity of municipal facilities by 5% by 2025 as
compared to the baseline of 2018.
2. Commercial and Business sector
Goals: Increase commercial, industrial facilities total annual participation in efficiency program by 5%
by 2025 compared to the baseline of 2018.
3. Residential sector
Goals: Increase energy efficiency upgrades to residential properties by 25% and increase participation
in low-income efficiency program by 50%
There will also be community-wide goals to reduce consumption in electricity and natural gas.
• Monica Kapp is heading up the municipal sector. Council member Marcia White is heading up the commercial
and business sector. The gentleman they hoped would lead the residential sector is unable to do it, so for now,
Jenn, Ian, and Natalie will head up that group. Ian and Natalie are also with the weatherization and HEAT
programs.
• Within the implementation plan, it explicitly calls out for members of this committee to serve and help with the
implementation of the strategies in the plan. Jenn said it would be ideal to have at least one committee
member to serve on each of the three sectors and asked if anyone from the committee would be willing and
able to serve. The commercial, industrial, and residential groups are primarily focused on a lot of marketing
and coordinating to get the word out about existing utility, weatherization, and HEAT programs.
• Bonnie said she is willing to serve on the residential housing, as she has experience working in residential
housing programs before.
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• With most of his experience being in government, Joe said the municipal one would be a good fit, but he would
take the commercial and business one as well.
• Heather said there may be a committee member, who is absent from the meeting, that may be interested in the
commercial and business one. She thanked Jenn for her time in joining the meeting and she was excused.
STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE – BILL HACKETT
• Bill told the committee that he wanted to review the results of the survey at this meeting and develop an initial
set of strategic goals. At next month’s meeting and the following month’s meetings, he wants to revisit the
strategic goals and address a plan to achieve them and put them into action.
• Bill asked the committee the homework question, “What are your key takeaways of the survey results?”
• Bonnie said she saw a wealth of knowledge and interest in the committee to serve. She also saw that some
people are able to engage more frequently than others, and others haven’t been able to attend meetings as
much.
• Adam said he saw some of the same as Bonnie did with commitment issues. He also saw retention and
workload issues, as well as a lack of feeling like we’re really a consultative committee. He questions if this is
something that the mayor and council is committed to, because of the lack of response and action on what the
committee has done so far.
• Heather said her takeaways were captured in Adam’s comments, but a key one was the need to know what
would be most beneficial to the city and not mess around with other things. Having too much of a workload,
yet not knowing what will make the biggest difference.
• Joe said he concurs with what’s been mentioned so far.
• Jay said he was purposely trying to stay quiet because he feels it isn’t his position to direct the strategic plan
for the committee. Rather, he feels that once it’s decided, it’s his position to make sure it’s carried out.
However, he did have some strong takeaways from the survey. He may need to rethink of how to time the
committee’s involvement so that is seems like it’s more in sync to where the committee feels their
recommendations have a heavier weight.
• Jay is concerned that a lot of members feel there is limited resources, but so far we’ve tried to accommodate
what the committee has requested, whether financial or removing roadblocks to get messages out. The
committee is first and foremost an educational committee.
• Leesa said her main takeaway was the committee desires more direct communication with the council and
administration.
• Jay asked the committee what they really want, such as a clear definition from the council and administration
in what to work on.
• Heather said she feels the committee won’t have an answer until the strategic planning is finished.
• Adam said the committee can’t know how Jay can best support it until they know what they need and can ask.
• Bonnie said she wants to know that we have open lines of communication when needed. When the committee
sends recommendations, they would like an acknowledgement and whether or not the recommendation will be
considered, etc.. An easier flow of communication between the advisory committee, administration, and
council is desired.
• Heather said she’s been thinking about another piece of that in how, without a relationship, it’s hard to know
where the recommendation is coming from; is it politically motivated or how do the city council or mayor know
if they can trust us? Without a relationship, how do we know what to advise?. On the other hand, Heather has a
sense that she’s not supposed to develop a relationship with them because she’s supposed to be a separate
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entity. She feels a lot of tension about wanting to have relationships with people she’s advising and wanted to
be independent, so she can be the most useful advisor.
• Jay said he feels that Bill’s process will help to develop that.
• Bill said we tend to talk about the direction of communications as either/or. He added that any successful
relationships he’s had with clients have been a 2-way street. There hasn’t been a feeling of conflict with either
party. The purpose of having a consultant, whether it’s a committee or an individual is to have some
independent input. The client has to guide that input in some fashion. No client, city or otherwise, asks a client
to come in and just give random advice on random things. He wants to know that his advice is valued and
considered. Bill doesn’t see these two thing as conflicting at all.
• Joe said he agreed with everything that’s been said. It would be good to have some general guidance from the
city council, which would allow the committee to work on things relatively independently toward some broader
things to address. Then, as needed, some things very specific they may use to address us. He very much
agrees that we need more 2-way communication.
• Bonnie said that when Council Member Angela Choberka joined a meeting a couple of months ago, she
mentioned that she wanted to attend more meetings because it would be more helpful. Bonnie thinks this
would be helpful to foster the communication back and forth. She understands the council members are very
busy, but would like them to join on occasion. Bonnie asked if this is allowable and if it’s something they’d
want to engage in?
• Heather said the one thing we know for sure is we are allowed to go to their meetings, because they are public.
She feels this is a way we can get to know them better and is step one for her.
• Bill said he needs to up his game in terms of the 2-way street idea. He will try to come to more work sessions
and council meetings, especially if he knows our items are going to be on the agenda.
• Heather said Jay can help by what topics are coming up on the agenda. Jay said that’s not a problem.
• Bill said this was a good discussion. The next thing for us to do is to draft an initial set of strategic goals by
reviewing the survey results and determine what’s good and what can be strengthened.
• Bill gave an example of his 4 strategic goals that he has written down. These are subject to change based on
ideas from the committee in order of priority:
1. Don’t too quickly give up on HB 411. If the city does decide to leave, we should have an alternative
plan or, at least, a commitment to develop one.
2. Continue to encourage the hiring of an internal sustainability person to manage sustainability
initiatives as recommend in our air quality and climate subcommittee report.
3. Strengthen and clarify relationship with the mayor and council as internal stakeholders.
4. Do the same thing with external stakeholders in the community, notably WSU and the Ogden business
community.
• Bill suggested that everyone write down their own goals for the next meeting. We will then review everyone’s
goals and come to a consensus. Once a consensus is met, we’ll talk about implementation, prioritization, and
how to achieve them.
• Heather assigned each member to write down their goals and email them to her before the next meeting. She
will compile them for review.
SUBCOMMITTEE PROGRESS REPORTS
Air Quality and Climate
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• Still waiting for the response from council on the recommendations.
Government and Private Partnership
• Adam asked what the process would be for an organization to partner with the city to educate youth concerning
sustainability and natural resource protection. Jay said to utilize the city’s internal resources, including its
media group. Adam thanked Jay and said he will follow-up with him.
• Heather said this subcommittee isn’t functional right now. Depending on if something would fall under it with
our strategic plan, we’ll need to revitalize it.
Water Quality, Supply, and Conservation
• Bill said he has nothing to report at this time, as he has been putting his efforts into the strategic planning
survey.
Solid and Hazardess Waste Reduction and Recycling
• Leesa shared her screen to show the committee a picture of one of the city’s recycling drivers and his son, with
a display they put together for Earth Day at the Ogden Nature Center.
• Adam said that due to his efforts in the strategic plan survey, there is nothing new to update. He added that
this subcommittee is thinning out rather rapidly. Two of the members are our high school members whose
terms have ended as of this month.
• Adam met with a Gina McCracken, a graduate student from USU in their master’s program in environmental
sociology. Adam introduced her to members of the subcommittee. She is interested in our education and
outreach efforts, particularly in relation to connecting with the Diversity Commission with regard to equity
diversity, inclusion, and sustainability.
• Adam said he understands that, when he moves into the committee chair position, he will no longer chair this
subcommittee, but will be happy to serve on it.
Sustainable Energy
• Heather said that she, Adam, and Bonnie have a meeting this Friday with some of the folks from the Diversity
Commission and WSU sustainability to share ideas and brainstorm about potential collaboration. She will
update the committee at the next meeting. We’re hoping this is a relationship that will move forward.
• Bonnie reported that her and Jenn Bodine met with Jay and Monica Kapp to come up with some ideas of how
they can support the city in developing an EV charging station plan. We’re hoping to work with some students
at WSU that can help.
• Jay said he was very thankful to Bonnie and Jenn for their willingness to help us take first steps because he
knows it’s priority for a couple of council members.
Open Space
• Heather said this subcommittee is defunct right now. She is interested in working on this when she steps down
as chair, depending on the strategic goals.
Education and Community Outreach
• Nothing new to report other than what has been discussed earlier in the meeting.
COMMITTEE OPEN DISCUSSION
• Adam asked Leesa if, in her next communication, she would send out the link to the committee interest form.
• Bonnie said she would love to know when the committee can meet in person again. Jay said it will follow fairly
close to when the council opens to general sessions.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Jenn Bodine
• The professor at WSU over the Real Projects class is excited about the EV charging stations project. He knows
that the students will be excited as well and he’s going to start marketing it very soon to secure the students
with the skill sets that we need in order to implement it. Jenn told Jay that her next step is to put together a list
of questions from the meeting with him and Monica that the students can start to research when they begin
classes in the fall.
• Jay said they will present the findings to the committee so they can go to administration and council. Jenn
said it would be a fantastic experience for the students to present. It should be the last part of November or the
first part of December. Heather said we’ll put them on the agenda when the time comes.
DELIVERABLES FOR MAY 27TH MEETING
• Write down each individual’s strategic goals and email them to Heather before the next meeting. She will
compile them for review at the meeting.
• Subcommittees that are working on projects will report status updates.
ADJOURNMENT
• With no further business, Heather adjourned the meeting at 5:10 p.m.
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________________
Jay M. Lowder Heather Root, Chair
Ogden City Public Services Director
Date Approved: ________________________________
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Agenda
AGENDA
OGDEN CITY NATURAL RESOURCES AND SUSTAINABILITY STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE
April 22, 2021 – 4:00 p.m.
Electronic Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84964612140?pwd=UjZCWEd1Q2xveit0TnZEL2JmN1U2Zz09
Passcode: 784814
Connect via Telephone: 1 669 900 6833
Webinar ID: 849 6461 2140
1) Welcome – Heather Root, Chair (2 minutes)
2) Call to Order / Roll Call (2 minutes)
3) Approval of March 25th Meeting Minutes – Committee Members (2 minutes)
4) Updates – Jay Lowder (5 minutes)
• New member recommendations update
• Air Quality Recommendations status
• Dominion Energy Joint Agreement status
5) Energy Wise Ogden Project Implementation – Jenn Bodine, Weber State University (10 minutes)
6) Strategic Plan Update – Bill Hackett (15 minutes)
• Presentation of Survey Results, discussion, and next steps
7) Subcommittees Progress Reports - Committee Members
• Air Quality and Climate Subcommittee (5 minutes)
• Government and Private Partnership (5 minutes)
• Water Quality, Supply, and Conservation (5 minutes)
• Solid and Hazardous Waste Reduction and Recycling (5 minutes)
• Sustainable Energy (5 minutes)
• Open Space (5 minutes)
• Education and Community Outreach (5 minutes)
8) Open Discussion – Committee Members (10 minutes)
9) Assign Deliverables for May 27th Meeting – Heather Root, Chair (2 minutes)
10) Adjournment
Public meetings of the Ogden City Natural Resources and Sustainability Stewardship Committee will be held electronically in accordance
with Utah Code section 52-4-202. Pursuant to a written determination by the Committee Chair finding that conducting the meeting
with an anchor location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those who may be present due to infectious and
potentially dangerous nature of COVID-19 virus, public meetings will be held electronically for the next thirty (30) days.
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Annotated 52-4-202(3) on this 20th day April 2021 in the following places: 2nd floor foyer of the Public Works Building; 2nd floor foyer of the Ogden City
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TRACY HANSEN, MMC
Ogden City Recorder
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