City Council
Regular MeetingOlympia, WA · July 12, 2013
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Meeting Minutes
City Council
Friday, July 12, 2013 3:00 PM Room 112
Ad Hoc Community Renewal Area Committee
1. ROLL CALL
Present: 2 - Mayor Stephen H. Buxbaum and Mayor Pro Tem Nathaniel Jones
Excused: 1 - Councilmember Steve Langer
OTHERS PRESENT
City Manager Steve Hall
Community Planning and Development Director Keith Stahley
Associate Planner Amy Buckler
2. COMMITTEE BUSINESS
2.A 13-0563 Oral Report - Discussion of Next Steps in Working with the Citizens
Advisory Committee
Mayor Buxbaum reviewed various plans and regulations that are currently or will be in
process including the Community Renewal Area Plan, Comprehensive Plan update,
Shoreline Master Program, sub-area planning, Downtown Master Plan, development
regulations, and design review regulations. It will be necessary that these regulations
are coordinated.
Mayor Buxbaum turned to potential next steps for the Citizens Advisory Committee
(CAC). He felt there was still work to do around helping the CAC fully understand the
potential applications of the CRA and to clarify the reasons for the CRA . They need
to be able to provide input on questions about the CRA boundary and options for
governance. He asked how the consultant team can help us accomplish that.
Mayor Buxbaum suggested that rather than holding additional meetings of the entire
CAC, he can meet with smaller groups - by interest group - using the brown bag lunch
approach.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones agreed there was additional work to do with the CAC. He felt
the CAC needed help to get beyond the term "blight". Issues relating to blight, such
as its effect on access to credit and the relationship with the master plan , need to be
dealt with directly. He supported continuing brown bag luncheons in the smaller
groups as suggested by Mayor Buxbaum.
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Mayor Buxbaum asked that the consultant team help sharpen the boundary and
governance discussion. He recognized the inclusion of condemnation as a CRA
power would be controversial; however, it could be determined at a later date.
Mayor Buxbaum noted additional information about the presence of and impacts on
downtown for sea level rise, liquefaction, and soil contamination may be helpful in
defining an appropriate CRA boundary. We must think of the CRA as a tool and not a
plan.
The Committee discussed how best to use July 23 and asked if we are ready for
recommendations. Mayor Buxbaum suggested the best approach may be to have the
CAC hear recommendations first and then come forward to the full Council. He
hoped to continue to build capacity with the CAC and have them ready to answer
questions and support the process. The Committee agreed to ask ECONorthwest to
come early on the 23rd to begin small group discussions with CAC members. Mayor
Buxbaum also suggested it may be beneficial to have the law firm of Foster & Pepper
at the next CAC meeting.
Mr. Hall said he felt the CAC and the consultant team got too far into the weeds on
Monday July 8. He recommended trying to keep the CAC at a higher level.
Mayor Buxbaum turned the Committee’s attention to the upcoming discussion with the
Olympia Planning Commission (OPC) leadership team. He suggested that this
meeting focus on the relationship between the CRA and OPC planning efforts . He
noted the City is pursuing a Comprehensive Plan update and a Shoreline Master
Program update and these efforts must be understood in relationship to the CRA and
the Downtown Master Plan. He said he hoped to convey a basic understanding of the
CRA and the objectives of that process.
Ms. Buckler spoke about scoping of the Downtown Master Plan. She also said it
was important to get clarity around what the relationship between the Planning
Commission’s March 18 recommended Comprehensive Plan and the addendum for
the Comprehensive Plan approved on May 6.
The discussion was completed.
2.B 13-0564 Oral Report - Meeting with the Olympia Planning Commission
Leadership Team Regarding Connections and Sequencing of a
Potential Downtown Master Plan and the Community Renewal Area
Work
The Joint Ad Hoc CRA Committee/Planning Commission leadership team meeting
commenced at 4:00 p.m.
Councilmember Langer arrived as well as Planning Commission Vice Chair Judy
Bardin, Chair Jerry Parker, and Commissioners Carol Richmond, and Roger Horn.
Planning Services Manager Todd Stamm also joined the meeting.
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Mayor Buxbaum set the agenda:
1. Work of CRA and Planning Commission
2. Scoping of work for the Downtown Master Plan
3. Urban Neighborhood Proposal
4. SMP - Commissioner Horn’s thoughts
Mayor Buxbaum provided an overview of the relationship between the CRA and the
Planning Commission’s work. He thanked Planning Commission members for their
attendance at CAC meetings and brown bag luncheons.
Chair Parker thanked Mayor Buxbaum for his overview and said his understanding
was much clearer.
Vic Chair Bardin noted the organization for the Downtown plan is not in place . She
questioned what the outcomes, boundary, and blight are in relationship to the CRA.
Mayor Buxbaum noted the CRA is a tool for the elimination of blight. It allows the City
to carry out development projects to eliminate blight. If you want to purchase
property, you must be specific and have a plan for redevelopment. The plan must
also specify the activities and uses to be undertaken through the CRA.
Vic Chair Bardin asked about land use conflicts, e.g. if the CRA said park and the plan
said housing. How would inconsistencies be rectified? Mayor Buxbaum responded
that the CRA does not establish land use and must be consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Commissioner Richmond asked why we haven’t begun to talk about the Downtown
Master Plan. Why not the CRA and the Master Plan at the same time? Director
Stahley noted the timeline for the CRA consultant has them finishing their work by
January, 2014 and the Downtown Master Plan will likely take much longer.
Chair Parker noted Mr. Drebick had commented that development by the mall is far
more likely and supportive of the City’s revenue. He wondered if the CRA had
broader applications.
Mayor Buxbaum responded that where to best use CRA as a tool was part of the
consulting team’s work. While they are focused on Downtown, it is possible to do
more than one CRA.
Chair Parker recommended adding a summary of the relationship of liquefaction,
contamination, and sea level rise to the web page.
Commissioner Horn said the table included in the consultant’s report is helpful in
explaining the powers of the CRA and the benefits to the City.
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Commissioner Richmond added that the public is going to pay attention to the Master
Plan and will want to be more engaged in that process.
Scoping the Downtown Master Plan
Mayor Buxbaum noted there is a lot of work to do and said it is wise to start to scope
the Downtown Master Plan and to develop a charter for that process.
Ms. Buckler added that staff met yesterday with representatives of the Coalition of
Neighborhood Associations (CNA) to discuss this process. A recommendation
emerged from those discussions to form a task force to work with staff to develop the
scope of the Master Plan. The task force should consist of a small group from
representative interest groups including the CNA, Downtown Neighborhood
Association, Olympia Downtown Association, Parking and Business Improvement
Area Committee, the Land Use and Environment Committee, the Planning
Commission, Oly 2020, and the Economic Development Council. The group agreed
this approach had merit and deserved further discussion at the upcoming Land Use
and Environment Committee meeting.
Commissioner Richmond said the Downtown Plan should focus on redevelopment,
identify targets for growth, consider how we accommodate it, and what kinds of
projects should be developed.
Urban Neighborhoods
Ms. Buckler asked how the May 6 proposal should be addressed. Will Council
consider it in their deliberations? She recommended the May 6 draft was more than a
refinement to the March plan and that it needed further work by both staff and the
Planning Commission before it would be ready for Council consideration. She said
the effects of the May 6 plan need to be fully understood and the implications more
fully explored.
Commissioner Horn agreed that the Planning Commission needs to spend more time
on the proposal.
Chair Parker added that we need to work out the language and details; Consistency
between nodes and the Thurston Regional Planning Council High Density Corridor
proposal.
Mayor Buxbaum said there is still some refinement that needs to take place and it
should probably be a 2014 work plan item.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones agreed and said he was interested in the Planning
Commission's continuing to work on it and recognizes it will not likely be ready for
inclusion in the 2013 update.
Shoreline Master Program
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Commissioner Horn questioned how the SMP would be harmonized with the
Comprehensive Plan update.
Mr. Stamm responded it may be better to address that issue after we receive
comments from the Department of Ecology (DOE) on the proposed SMP.
Mayor Buxbaum added that we anticipate an iterative process to adjust and reflect
DOE’s recommendations and changes and input from the Planning Commission to
achieve conformance between the SMP and the Comprehensive Plan will be
necessary at that time.
The discussion was completed.
3. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
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