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Regular MeetingOlympia, WA · September 24, 2013
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Meeting Minutes
City Council
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:30 PM Conference Room 112
Ad Hoc Community Renewal Area Committee
1. ROLL CALL
Present: 3 - Mayor Stephen H. Buxbaum, Mayor Pro Tem Nathaniel Jones and
Councilmember Steve Langer
OTHERS PRESENT
Community Planning & Development (CP&D) Staff: Director Keith Stahley, Director
Leonard Bauer, Program Assistant Robert Hornbein
Citizens: Jerry Parker, Shelby Hentges
2 BUSINESS ITEMS
2A 13-0771 Approval of August 23, 2013 Community Renewal Area Ad Hoc
Committee Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved.
2B 13-0768 Approval of August 29, 2013 Community Renewal Area Ad Hoc
Committee Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved.
2C 13-0770 ORAL REPORT - Review Draft Component A Investment Strategy:
City of Olympia Opportunity Areas
The September 24, 2013 draft of EcoNorthwest’s Component A report was reviewed
and discussed, and revisions proposed. Mr. Stahley summarized the process of
developing this draft and provided an overview of the content. He discussed report
details information about five “opportunity sites,” as well as an overarching strategy for
pursuing redevelopment in Olympia. Mr. Stahley said an ideal outcome for this
meeting would be for the Ad Hoc Committee to reach agreement on how this report
would be presented to the City Council on October 1.
Proposed revisions include:
• Adding language to express the City’s desire to change the culture of how
community development takes place in Olympia by being more proactive in
building partnerships with developers and engaging them in the land use process,
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rather than being reactive and waiting for permits to be submitted.
• Including the report’s conclusion in the introduction and executive summary .
Reviewing the draft provided the Ad Hoc Committee with the opportunity to look at
how Component A recommendations would be implemented, and how
recommendations could help the City take a more proactive approach to community
development. General agreement was reached that Component A of the consultant’s
work could:
• Help create a framework for bringing the City’s community development
aspirations to fruition, help inform the process of transforming CP& D’s current
culture and reactive approach to community development, and provide a
framework for developing an approach that is more proactive.
• Help inform and improve transportation planning.
Discussion also took place on how Component A could help inform and guide the
Capital Facilities Plan.
Mayor Buxbaum spoke of looking at what is missing from the Capital Facilities Plan
rather than creating something new, as well as looking at how the Planning
Commission's Capital Facilities Subcommittee can do its work differently. He
proposed a possible structure for a roundtable. Another aspect would be how
Component A and a new approach to community development can improve
transportation planning.
Mr. Bauer commented that it could be valuable to look at how to frame the opportunity
areas in a way that would help move the Capital Facilities Plan forward.
Councilmember Langer raised the question of how the report’s recommendations and
proposed strategy would be accomplished in terms of City staff and budget . He
recommended developing a clear staffing strategy to implement a more proactive
community development approach. As a preliminary step, this strategy should be
presented to Council to give Councilmembers an idea of what it would look like.
Mr. Stahley pointed out that the report addresses Ad Hoc Committee concerns
regarding practical steps the City can take to build capacity to implement a more
proactive community development strategy.
Mayor Buxbaum expressed the need to first get Council’s consent on Component A ,
then address staffing changes that will be required to implement a new community
development strategy.
The discussion was completed.
2D 13-0769 ORAL REPORT - Consider Next Steps for Community Renewal
Area Process and Component B, Including: Community Renewal
Area Boundary Proposal, Governance Structure, Role of the
Citizens Advisory Committee, and Action Plan
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This discussion focused on what a more proactive community development approach
might look like and next steps to make this happen. Discussion items included:
• The need for more stakeholder and community involvement. Questions around
this topic focused on how to develop partnerships and get stakeholders to
participate and bring ideas forward. Councilmember Langer would like to find ways
to bring property owners, developers, community members, the City, and other
stakeholders together to make things happen in the “opportunity area.” Ideally,
this would be a collaborative effort that recognizes the resources each party can
contribute to the process.
• What a more proactive approach to community development would require in
terms of City resources, including staffing.
• Integrating this new approach with the City’s Capital Facilities Plan.
• The need and value of convening a community development roundtable consisting
of developers, community representatives, City representatives, and other
stakeholders.
• The Ad Hoc Committee’s role; whether it would continue to exist and be involved
beyond completing the CRA project, or whether an ongoing Council committee
would be created to look at broader community/economic development issues.
• The Citizen Advisory Committee’s (CAC) role; particularly in regard to community
involvement.
• The more proactive approach would engage a variety of stakeholders/partners in
an action-oriented process that brings a shared community development vision to
fruition, replacing the current, reactive approach that waits until a land use permit
is submitted.
• The need to be clear and inclusive with City Council and the general public
regarding Component A and establishing a community renewal area.
• A more proactive approach to community/economic development represents a
new way of conducting community planning and development “business,” and
could be confusing to the public.
• Because this new approach could be confusing, there will likely be a need for a
dialogue about how to introduce it to the broader community. There is a need to
consider how to explain this new methodology for community renewal.
Following this discussion, the topic turned to what next steps would be needed to
continue moving forward with developing and implementing a more proactive
approach to community/economic development.
Councilmember Langer proposed the idea of bringing property owners, developers,
investors, neighborhood residents, and the City together to identify ways to make
things happen within the opportunity areas. Key questions would address what is
possible, what steps and actions are necessary to get things to happen, and, in the
opportunity areas that fall into the “nurture” category (where solely market-driven
development is unlikely to happen), how to get the ball rolling. Councilmember Langer
observed that the Component A recommendations were too general for property
owners.
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Mayor Pro Tem Jones said in addition to looking at capital facilities investments within
the opportunity areas, it would be important not to lose sight of needed development
regulation changes.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones revisited what would be necessary to develop the City’s
internal capacity to take on a new approach to community development and shared
his perspective on what success would look like, citing three conditions:
• Developers and the development community would be willing to work with the City.
• The City’s capacity is developed and capable of taking on the work , particularly
from a staffing standpoint.
• The Planning Commission has a role to play and is capable of taking on that role.
Mayor Buxbaum shared his perspective on what this process looks like; the City
facilitating conversations with different stakeholders who are willing to come to the
table, and that Component A is the beginning and provides a framework for this to
happen.
Councilmember Langer said the key element for this approach to be successful was
for it to pencil out; without adequate funding nothing can happen.
Mr. Stahley concurred with the Ad Hoc Committee’s comments and said next steps
would be to look more closely at the specific “opportunity area” sites and develop a
model for a more proactive community development process, and that this model can
come out of the next steps.
Mayor Buxbaum added that the five sites identified and discussed in Component A
are ones the City is interested in, and some type of development will occur on these
sites regardless of the level and type of involvement the City has in the process. He
revisited the idea of a more proactive approach to community development, observing
that the current model for community development is that the City is open for
business, waiting for developers to initiate a land use permitting process. He wants to
change that model to one that is more planning-focused that would identify areas the
City is interested in and go after what the City wants.
The Ad Hoc Committee discussed next steps and a tentative timeline for moving
forward. The first step would be to convene the CAC in early November, followed up
by a Council study session where the CAC’s work would be presented .
Before ending discussion of this agenda item, Mayor Pro Tem Jones asked members
of the public, Shelby Hentges and Jerry Parker, if they had any comments regarding
what they heard.
Ms. Hentges, who is involved in land development, said the Ad Hoc Committee’s
discussion could be viewed both positively and cynically. On a positive note, she said
it would be amazing if the City could actually establish a more proactive approach to
community/ economic development. From a cynical perspective, she expressed some
doubts about the model, saying that too much public involvement can mire a project.
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She expressed that with this type of approach, where development is more
community driven, a disconnect could occur between what the community wants and
what is feasible from a market standpoint. Ms. Hentges also posed a question about
what would happen if the City presented a plan for a more proactive approach to
community/economic development, but the community was not interested.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones responded to Ms. Hentges’s concerns. Because eliminating all
conflict would not be possible, it would be important to create a credible process to
get buy-in. They should have no illusions about there not being any naysayers.
Credible benchmarks would need to be established so people who wanted to become
involved could have good information.
Ms. Hentges agreed that more predictability is needed in the land use process.
Mayor Buxbaum described some of the ingredients needed to create a more
predictable process. One of the City’s goals should be to build a high level of
agreement around sub-area plans and the Comprehensive Plan; this would help
create predictability for both developers and property owners.
The question was raised about what predictability looks like for developers.
Ms. Hentges said that, from her perspective, one of the difficulties is the lengthy
process involved in moving a development proposal through the permitting process
and the risk involved because of the possibility that time and interest will be lost, as
well as the added expense if a land use application is rejected or has to be revised.
Another concern she expressed is the possibility of land becoming devalued because
the community agreement and/or the community’s vision doesn’t jive with market
realities.
Councilmember Langer said he would like to see an annual review of the
Comprehensive Plan by the neighborhood associations, and sees the City’s role in
this process as providing information to the neighborhood associations to remind
them of what they agreed on.
Mr. Parker agreed that a more proactive land use process is needed, and commented
on the anti-development mentality that exists within the community. Most of Mr.
Parker’s remarks focused on next steps, particularly regarding Component B. He
commented on the idea of forming a development roundtable, noting a fundamental
question for him is what role the public will play. He said a disconnect exists between
the Capital Facilities Plan and the Comprehensive Plan, that there is no connection
between the former and the land use goals stated in the latter. He also observed what
he sees as a lack of the CAC’s involvement in the CRA process, pointing out the last
meeting was in July, and that, as a member of this Committee, this has been
discouraging. He commented on the need for a demonstration project, the need to
explain the connection between community renewal and downtown, and the need to
engage the broader public in identifying potential CRAs.
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After receiving comments from Ms. Hentges and Mr. Parker, the Ad Hoc Committee
moved to considering next steps for creating a downtown CRA. Mayor Buxbaum
expressed the need for more work with small groups of CAC members as a
preliminary step to convening the whole CAC. He also envisioned a study session
with City Council and the CAC as a necessary step to ratifying Component B. Moving
forward, the Ad Hoc Committee would need to report to City Council on what has
been learned and the progress made concerning three topics:
• CRA boundaries
• CRA governance structure
• CRA action plan
Mayor Buxbaum observed that the Ad Hoc Committee would need to be prepared to
make recommendations to City Council, and it would be desirable to put the CAC in a
position of being more included and to hold a CAC meeting prior to the next Council
study session.
Councilmember Langer confirmed the Mayor’s intent that the next steps would involve
the CAC before going to Council.
Mr. Stahley asked what questions would be put before the CAC to consider.
Mayor Buxbaum responded that the questions would look at drafting a CRA
ordinance, deliberating on and determining the CRA boundary, deciding on a CRA
governance structure, and developing an action plan. The action plan is incidental to
the other decisions and could be driven either by a Downtown Master Plan or a
community engagement process.
The issue of how to fund the CRA was then brought up.
Mayor Buxbaum stated it would cost the City $8,000,000 over the next five years to
keep Percival Landing open.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones asked where the CRA fits in.
Mayor Buxbaum commented on the need to inject reality into the process and
evaluate the most important needs of downtown. The Isthmus is linked to Percival
Landing from the standpoint of public infrastructure. Tools that can be brought to the
table are needed, as well as a lead-in project for revitalizing downtown.
Mr. Stahley commented that a Community Renewal Plan (CRP) is required to
establish a CRA, but it can be vague if acquiring specific properties and it can be
readily amended. He distributed the EcoNW Status Report that presents what has
been accomplished to date on the CRA project. Mr. Stahley indicated that if the City
was going to go beyond the consultant’s current scope of work , it would be necessary
to look at what else would need to happen and whether the City has the budget to
extend the work. He mentioned that EcoNW was calling for an additional $9,000 to
broaden their work and it would be important to consider next steps for the CRA
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project because this would impact the consultant’s work.
Mayor Buxbaum summarized what he saw as the process for establishing a CRA,
which was to answer the three questions discussed earlier. To answer these
questions it would be necessary for EcoNW to complete their analysis of downtown
(Component B) then convene the CAC in early November. The next step would be to
present the CAC’s work to the Council at a study session, followed by a decision on
how to proceed in early 2014.
Mr. Stahley asked for clarification and confirmation of next steps outlined by the
Mayor. Points clarified included having EcoNW involved in the early November CAC
meeting and that the purpose of this meeting would be to get feedback from the CAC
on the next steps of the CRA process. Following the CAC meeting would be a Council
study session, then rolling the CRA project into the Council retreat.
Mayor Buxbaum commented that the scoping for downtown needs to include what is
known about Percival Landing. He also identified two questions that need to be
addressed prior to the CAC meeting. The first is the role the Land Use and
Environment Committee would play; the second is the relationship between the CRA
and Downtown Master Plan. He indicated that answers to these questions would help
to inform the CAC’s conversation. He also sees value in having the Ad Hoc
Committee review the consultant’s recommendations, and to be involved with and
review the CAC’s work.
Discussion then briefly turned to the draft Downtown Feasibility Study (Component B).
Mayor Pro Tem Jones asked if a draft of this report was ready for the Ad Hoc
Committee to review.
Mr. Stahley responded “no” - only a rough outline. The report was scheduled to be
completed by the end of October, but the main recommendation that will come out of
Component B is not to build office space downtown.
The discussion was completed.
2E 13-0772 ORAL REPORT - Consider CDBG Process Proposal
Discussion of this agenda item, and item 2F, took place within a general framework of
how CDBG funds could be used to fund CRA-related projects. Three items were
discussed:
1. Clarifying the distinction between community development and economic
development.
2. Establishing a clear process.
3. Determining whether CDBG funds could be distributed through a multi-year
allocation.
A general topic discussed by the Ad Hoc Committee is that there is no clear
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understanding of, nor a process for clarifying, the meaning of economic development.
Mayor Buxbaum indicated this is a needed discussion, and he would like to identify
procedural actions that can be taken.
Councilmember Langer said a critical piece is whether CDBG funds are revolving
funds.
Mayor Buxbaum inquired whether it would be possible to expedite the CDBG process
to fit the CRA project timeline.
Mr. Bauer indicated that early to mid-November was the deadline for developing a
consolidated plan. He also brought up another point for consideration; that 70 percent
of CDBG funds need to be directed to low-income projects, but that eliminating blight
doesn’t necessarily fit that requirement.
Councilmember Langer asked if demolishing the Isthmus buildings, acquired earlier in
the year by the City, could fall within low-income requirements.
Mayor Buxbaum indicated that if community renewal were undertaken as an Area
Benefit project, the Isthmus properties are in a census tract that qualifies. He further
indicated that creating a park is an eligible Area Benefit project that would meet both
criteria of blight removal and serving low to moderate income.
Mr. Bauer commented that the City would need to have a specific project and a
consolidated plan to move forward.
Mayor Buxbaum asked if a Section 108 loan could be used, and is there an
opportunity for the City to borrow Section 108 funding. He also asked if the City could
take on part of demolishing the Isthmus buildings.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones asked about transferring money into a revolving loan fund .
Mayor Buxbaum observed that the City would have a choice on how long to take to
pay back the loan. He also mentioned the City has a housing-related revolving loan
fund that could be converted to a multi-purpose revolving loan fund. This change
would need to be approved.
Mayor Pro Tem Jones commented that exploring the definition of economic
development as it relates to CDBG funds would be valuable, and expressed interest
in seeing examples of what other communities have done.
The discussion was completed.
2F 13-0773 ORAL REPORT - Status Reports and Updates Including Section
108 Loan Program and Other Emerging Economic Development
Issues
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This discussion of this agenda item was combined with item 2E.
The discussion was completed.
3. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:11 p.m.
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Meeting Agenda
City Council
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:30 PM Conference Room 112
Ad Hoc Community Renewal Area Committee
1. ROLL CALL
2 BUSINESS ITEMS
2A 13-0771 Approval of August 23, 2013 Community Renewal Area Ad Hoc
Committee Meeting Minutes
Attachments: August 23, 2013 Minutes
2B 13-0768 Approval of August 29, 2013 Community Renewal Area Ad Hoc
Committee Meeting Minutes
Attachments: August 29, 2013 Minutes
2C 13-0770 ORAL REPORT - Review Draft Component A Investment Strategy: City
of Olympia Opportunity Areas
Attachments: Draft Component A Investment Strategy
2D 13-0769 ORAL REPORT - Consider Next Steps for Community Renewal Area
Process and Component B, Including: Community Renewal Area
Boundary Proposal, Governance Structure, Role of the Citizens
Advisory Committee, and Action Plan
2E 13-0772 ORAL REPORT - Consider CDBG Process Proposal
Attachments: August 20, 2013 Genl Govt Comm Mins
CDBG Program Annual Cycle
CDBG Overview and History
2F 13-0773 ORAL REPORT - Status Reports and Updates Including Section 108
Loan Program and Other Emerging Economic Development Issues
3. ADJOURNMENT
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