Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingOlympia, WA · April 17, 2014
Minutes
The Olympia Center
City of Olympia 222 Columbia St. NW
Olympia, WA 98501
Contact: Jonathon Turlove
Meeting Minutes 360.753.8068
Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee
Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:00 PM The Olympia Center, Room 200
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 6:01 p.m.
Present: 8 - Chair Jim Nieland, Vice Chair Gerry Hodge, Committee Member
Barbara Benson, Committee Member Timothy W Burns, Committee
Member Robert Dengel, Committee Member Joel Hansen,
Committee Member Alicia Seegers Martinelli, and Committee
Member Brian Tomlinson
Absent: 2 - Committee Member Jesse Dwyer, and Committee Member Noah C
McCord
1a. WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee (PRAC) welcomed new members Alicia
Seegers Martinelli and Tim Burns.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
14-0152 Approval of December 15, 2013 Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee (PRAC) Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved.
14-0369 Approval of February 20, 2014 Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved.
4. PUBLIC COMMENT
James Reddick, PARC Foundation of Thurston County, stated that he is looking for
volunteers for various action committes identified at the Regional Park Board Meeting:
trails, collaboration, funding, regional fields and recreation planning. Next Saturday is
the Splash Bash in Tenino to raise money to open the Tenino Quarry for the summer.
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Tickets for the Oly Centro raffle will be available soon. Money raised at the raffle will
be split between the Park Departments of Lacey, Tumwater, Olympia and Thurston
County.
Bob Jacobs, former member of PRAC, thanked the Committee for being advocates of
parks. He stated that funding for parks is always at the end of the funding line and
that over the last several years, the parks budget has gone down 20%. Mr. Jacobs
stated that the consultants report on the Senior Impact Fee Exemption reads like a
case study and only addressed one survey in one park in Portland. He recommended
to not use it, or use it on an interim basis while a local survey is done to survey
random parks in Olympia.
Darrel Hoppe stated he was a new member with the Planning Commission and was
interested in being the liaison to PRAC.
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Upon the request of the LBA Woods Coalition, Jonathon Turlove distributed a report
from the coalition.
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
6a. Rules of Procedure and Ordinance Review (Cathie Butler/Tom Morrill)
Communications Manager Cathie Butler stated that she has been working with the
State Attorney's Office to provide regional training on how to conduct public meetings.
The training will be held on June 4 at the Washington Center. Ms. Butler also handed
out the 2014 Advisory Committee Regular Meetings List, roles and expectations
handout, and rules of procedure.
Tom Morrill, City Attorney, gave a brief summary of areas of the law pertaining to
advisory committees, and reminded the committee to be mindful of the requirements
for open meetings and notices to the public. Mr. Morrill discouraged the committee
from using reply all when sending emails, so as not to create discussion or decision
making via email.
Q1 - What is the requirement for subcommitte meetings? The meeting must be less
than a quorum and be clear on the scope of the subcommittee, don't take testimony
from the public, and keep copies of reports.
Q2 - If members resign during a term does the quorum change? Yes, the quorum is
based on active members.
Q3 - If PRAC members attend a public meeting, does public notice need to be given?
If a quorum will be attending or if a quorum is anticipated to be attending, a notice
should be issued even if decisions will not made.
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Ms. Butler stated that the City implemented an online survey system called Oly
Speaks. The City will be looking at creating a plan for using this tool later in the year.
6b. Heritage Fountain Condition Report and Recommendations Review (Kip
Summers)
Parks Project Engineer Kip Summers gave on overview of the Heritage Fountain
Evaluation Report done by ORB Architects. Kip reviewed the background of the
fountain and process to hire a consultant. The report identified action items, both
immediate and necessary upgrades. The action items were then organized by
priority. The top priority items will be started in 2014 with Condition Assessment and
Major Maintenance Program (CAMMP) funds and the remaining immediate action
items will be done next year. Funding has not been identified to address the
necessary upgrades to the fountain.
6c. Status Update of the Proposed Leased Dog Park Site in West Olympia
(Dave Okerlund)
Planning & Design Manager Dave Okerlund stated that the City has identified a site in
West Olympia for a temporary dog park. A draft concept plan has been created and
the department will be meeting with neighbors and will hold a public meeting this
summer. Mr. Okerlund stated that he will come back to PRAC for a formal
recommendation to Council after the public meeting.
6.d 14-0365 Senior Impact Fee Issue Paper - Recommendation to Council
Associate Planner Jonathon Turlove presented a Powerpoint presentation regarding
the Senior Impact Fee Exemption. The current ordinance states that housing
intended for 62+ is fully exempt from Impact Fees. The current discount proposed by
the consultant is 46% for 55+ with assisted living retaining the full exemption.
PRAC discussed the exemption at length. The discussion centered around the fact
that grandparents bring their grandkids to the park, longer life expectancies, fees for
parks needs to be equitable, and exemption should only be for nursing/assisted living
or advance care facilities.
PRAC will make a formal recommendation at the June meeting. Jonathon Turlove will
discuss with Legal staff the proposed wording.
A motion was made and seconded to recommend removing the park impact
fee exemption that is designated for 62 years or older, except for those
developments that are designed expressly for the infirm, advanced care, or
other uses where the residents are not likely to make an impact on the park
system, pending legal review. The motion passed unanimously.
6f. Elect new liaison to the North Capitol Campus Heritage Park Development
Association
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Alicia Seegers Martinelli volunteered to be the new liaison to the North Capitol
Campus Heritage Park Development Association.
6g. Elect new liaison to the Bicycle & Pedestrian Advisory Committee
Joel Hanson volunteered to be the new liaison to the Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory
Committee.
6h. Discussion on Whether to Change Meeting Day from Third Thursday
Council Liaison to PRAC Nathanial Jones has communicated that he has a conflict
with meeting on the third Thursday of the month. The committee discusssed other
date options, and decided to return to the first Thursday of the month.
7. REPORTS FROM PROJECT LEADS
Committee Member Dengel reported that the Urban Forestry Subcommittee submitted
a report to Council with recommendations that include the need for department
coordination, definition of roles, maintaining street trees, and to recognize parks as a
canopy cover. The City was awarded a grant from the Department of Natural
Resources and will use the funds for more strategic planning.
Chair Nieland stated he had recently attended a Community Economic Revitalization
Committee (CERC) meeting. CERC is a visioning group looking at the Isthmus
property, identifying opportunities and potential problems. A consultant will compile all
the ideas and present to a upcoming public meeting.
Parks, Arts and Recreation Department Director Paul Simmons stated that staff is
compiling information on Recreation and Conservation Office grants and the use of
park impact fees to make sure we are transparent with funding requirements when
presenting development ideas for the property.
8. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
UPCOMING
The next meeting will be May 1, 2014.
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Agenda
The Olympia Center
City of Olympia 222 Columbia St. NW
Olympia, WA 98501
Contact: Jonathon Turlove
Meeting Agenda 360.753.8068
Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee
Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:00 PM The Olympia Center, Room 200
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a. WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
Alicia Seegers Martinelli and Tim Burns
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
14-0152 Approval of December 15, 2013 Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee (PRAC) Meeting Minutes
Attachments: 1. Minutes
14-0369 Approval of February 20, 2014 Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee Minutes
Attachments: 1. Minutes
4. PUBLIC COMMENT
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
6a. Rules of Procedure and Ordinance Review (Cathie Butler/Tom Morrill)
6b. Heritage Fountain Condition Report and Recommendations Review (Kip
Summers)
6c. Status Update of the Proposed Leased Dog Park Site in West Olympia
(Dave Okerlund)
6.d 14-0365 Senior Impact Fee Issue Paper
Attachments: 1. Issue Paper
6f. Elect new liaison to the North Capitol Campus Heritage Park Development
Association
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This is an advocacy group for the completion of Heritage Park as envisioned by the original architects
for the Capitol Campus. (typically meets at 7am or 7:30am on Thursdays as members’ availability
dictates).
6g. Elect new liaison to the Bicycle & Pedestrian Advisory Committee
Group meets fourth Wednesday of each month; no meetings in July, August or December). Here is a
link to the advisory board page:
http://olympiawa.gov/city-government/advisory-committees/bicycle-and-pedestrian-advisory-committee.
aspx
6h. Discussion on Whether to Change Meeting Day from Third Thursday
7. REPORTS FROM PROJECT LEADS
8. ADJOURNMENT
UPCOMING
Next PRAC meeting is May 15, 2014.
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