Planning Commission
Regular MeetingOlympia, WA · October 7, 2013
Minutes
City Hall
City of Olympia 601 4th Avenue E
Olympia, WA 98501
Contact: Amy Buckler
Meeting Minutes 360.570.5847
Planning Commission
Monday, October 7, 2013 6:30 PM Council Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Parker called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m.
1.A ROLL CALL
Present: 8 - Chair Jerome Parker, Vice Chair Judy Bardin, Commissioner Kim
Andresen, Commissioner Jessica Bateman, Commissioner Darrell
Hoppe, Commissioner Roger Horn, Commissioner Carole
Richmond, and Commissioner Missy Watts
Excused: 1 - Commissioner Max Brown
1. OTHERS PRESENT
Staff Present:
Community Planning and Development Deputy Director Leonard Bauer, Associate
Planner Amy Buckler, Building Official Tom Hill, Public Works Senior Planner Sophie
Stimson
Guests Present:
Joseph Becker with Ion EcoBuilding, Doug White with Brand X Design &
Construction, Jim Greene with Greene Realty Group, Thurston Regional Planning
Council Senior Planners Thera Black and Veena Tabbutt
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Chris van Daalen with the Northwest EcoBuilding Guild announced the "Vision To
Action Series" and two upcoming events; the Sustainability Symposium at South
Puget Sound Community College on Saturday, October 26 and; a sub area planning
symposium at City Hall on December 6.
Bob Jacobs asked about where, and why, the density numbers are used, and if they
are appropriate for Olympia. Chair Parker explained there will be many opportunities
for the public to give the Commission input regarding this subject.
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Jeffrey Jaksich gave an example of an infill community in Seattle that was poorly done
and has caused many unforeseen problems. He stressed that Olympia is a unique
place and solutions that work best for this area need to be put forward by thinking
creatively, involving the public, and then translating that into action. He believes this is
the best form of planning.
Vice Chair Bardin remarked that density numbers need to be more explicit and the
Commission is working on developing clearer language. Ms. Buckler told the
Commission there were new handouts in the packets they received for tonight's
meeting that redefined and clarified the language regarding density.
4. ANNOUNCEMENTS
The public was invited to contact City Hall and speak with the planner on site with any
questions regarding tonight's presentation and discussion.
5. INFORMATION REQUESTS
Vice Chair Bardin asked for new information regarding projections about population
and density by districts.
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
13-0803 Special Presentation: Small Infill Housing
Ms. Buckler gave a presentation about duplexes, accessory dwelling units (ADU), and
townhouses entitled "Small Infill Housing". The square footage and details specific to
each housing type were described. Building heights, setbacks, parking, garage
standards, and building and site design were outlined. The attachments provided to
the Commission accompanying this presentation can be viewed by the public on the
City's website on the calendar tab.
Ms. Buckler introduced the panel members: Mr. Hill; Mr. Becker; Mr. White; and Mr.
Greene.
Panel Discussion:
-Description of how impact fees and general utility charges are differentiated .
-The challenges faced by builders and reasons they don't purchase infill lots.
-Why smaller builders are sometimes more likely to buy and build in town.
-Past and current land values and their effect on building.
-Initiatives to help owner builders do green building.
-Innovative building projects that are happening locally, regionally and nationally.
-ADUs as responsible, thoughtful solutions to keeping neighborhoods intact.
-Examples that demonstrate good design and neighborhood compatibility.
-Backyard programs in Seattle and Toronto.
-The current constraints in building ADUs and the need to be more flexible regarding
uses.
-Using the existing sewer, water, etc., infrastructure.
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-Additional general facility fees for use.
-Impact fee increases.
-How the current fee schedule does not adequately cover additional usage.
-Wastewater and consideration of new volume-based fees.
-Land value recovery in a depressed economy.
-The increasing demand for multiple dwellings.
-What happens when properties change hands.
-Enforcement is problematic.
-Impact fees for ADUs.
-Problems with current setbacks.
-City website online brochure outlining flexibility on setbacks.
-How Vancouver's civic renewal lab, a project-based public participation model, could
be duplicated.
-The percentages of new homes without buildings versus additions to existing homes.
-Contacting panel members with questions via email.
-This is an ongoing conversation and will continue to be studied by the Commission.
The report was received.
13-0804 Briefing: Regional and Local Transportation Plans & Strategies
Related to the Urban Corridors (Cont. review of the ‘Urban
Neighborhoods’ proposals)
Thurston Regional Planning Council Senior Planner Thera Black presented "Urban
Corridors" which described transportation strategies and the urban corridor. She
began by reading a priority goal of the Sustainable Thurston Vision : "to create vibrant
centers, corridors, and neighborhoods while accommodating growth" which means
that density and corridors need to be in alignment with the way we grow our
communities. Options available to Thurston County and their relevancy were
described and plans since the enactment of the Washington State Growth Act in 1993
were outlined. Copies of the report were distributed.
Public Works Senior Planner Sophie Stimson presented the Transportation Mobility
Strategy. Redevelopment efforts, financing options, and the smart corridors project
were covered. She and Thurston Regional Planning Senior Planner Veena Tabbutt
answered questions.
Commission Discussion and Answers:
-The 5 lane limit will not preclude the development of light rail or bus express. In many
other cities this occurs on the urban corridors. For the Thurston region Intercity Transit
is the sole transit authority with connections to other transit authorities.
-The quarter mile designation along the corridors indicates the distance length people
are willing to walk to shopping. The vision for greater density along the corridors,
meaning less sprawl, will only happen if funding is made available to implement this
vision.
-Research about people who live near highly traveled roadways establishes that
health risks, especially respiratory, and other problems, are greater. These health
risks are associated with very large numbers of vehicles and the area being discussed
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encompasses only about one tenth of that. Statistics from other areas are very
different depending on how metropolitan, etc. the areas are, and cannot be compared
with an area this size. This has been discussed in the Tumwater region with retail on
the corridor and residential set back in a buffered zone . Vice Chair Bardin emphasized
that research done on lower volume roadways demonstrate a dose response
relationship between environmental exposures and disease.
-On 2nd Avenue in Seattle there are very few commercial enterprises along the bus
route and this seems problematic.
-A node is a district or place, a walkable area along the corridor which can be small or
large. Residents need to be able to get from node to node relatively quickly using
alternative transportation in order to reduce the use of cars.
-A corridor district is another way of describing an area of urban activity that identifies
a unique area on the corridor.
-The current speed limit is 25 to 35 mph, but generally the desire is for slower traffic.
Because streets must be designed to create this, simply changing the posted limit
does not work. This presents a new challenge for designers, especially on arterial
roadways.
Mr. Bauer expressed his appreciation for the presentations. They are very helpful to
the Commission in reviewing the May addendum and the urban neighborhood
proposals in the addendum. Questions for the Commission to consider for
deliberation were presented.
The report was received.
13-0805 PUBLIC HEARING & Deliberation: OPC Recommendation on the
Draft 2014-2019 Capital Facilities Plan
The Public Hearing was opened. Chair Parker asked for comments three times and
closed the hearing when no one came forward to comment.
Chair Parker moved, seconded by Vice Chair Bardin, to accept Commissioner Horn's
draft of the letter to Council as the base document for submission at the October 8th
council meeting.
Chair Parker moved and Vice Chair Bardin seconded to add Commissioner
Richmond's recommendations regarding neighborhood park acquisition on page 3, as
an amendment to the letter.
Commissioner Andresen questioned why, after so much review, additional language
was being added. Commissioner Richmond explained it was in response to Chair
Parker's questions during review which was new material and not included in their
packets before tonight. Commissioner Andresen expressed concern that they did not
have sufficient time to reevaluate the new material. The new material is more of a
refinement than a substantial change. Commissioner Hoppe asked for more
clarification on the maintenance part of the new material.
Vote to amend the draft letter by adding the paragraphs 1 and 3 in Commissioner
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Richmond's revision was taken. Chair Parker, Commissioner Watts and Andresen
voted Nay and the vote failed.
Commissioner Bateman reported the Parks Committee (PC) had met and agreed with
all the recommendations by the Commission on the Capital Facilities Plan. There
were three areas the Committee wanted emphasis on; maintenance of existing park
buildings and systems has the highest priority; new bonds should support the
purchase of new parks; the need to develop a comprehensive funding plan for
development and maintenance of new parks and funding for the maintenance of
existing parks has to be instituted. Where that funding will come from needs to be
determined. Commissioner Andresen asked about the current funding coverage and
discussion followed. Because the new Parks Plan has to be updated every 6 years
current funding covers through 2016. There was conferment of Committee to support
the Planning Commission recommendation for Council to develop new sources of
funding.
Staff explained the Isthmus Acquisition/Building Demolition item had been added to
the Council's list and was not something the Commission had reviewed. Because the
Commission had not had time to study or review this item, the Commission cannot
make a recommendation tomorrow because of the short notice. Discussion followed
and it was decided the Commission will make a verbal "no comment" if asked about
this by the Council.
Chair Parker moved, seconded by Commissioner Horn, to approve the base
draft letter as amended. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 8 - Chair Parker, Vice Chair Bardin, Commissioner Andresen,
Commissioner Bateman, Commissioner Hoppe, Commissioner Horn,
Commissioner Richmond and Commissioner Watts
Excused: 1 - Commissioner Brown
13-0799 Deliberation: Code Amendment to Change Rezone Hearing Body
The deliberation for the code amendment to change rezone hearing body
was postponed and the discussion on regional and local transportation was
continued in that time allotment.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
13-0553 Approval of July 15, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved as amended.
13-0759 Approval of August 19, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
The minutes were approved as amended.
13-0734 Approval of September 9, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting
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Minutes
The minutes were approved as amended.
8. REPORTS
Vice Chair Bardin spoke about the email she received from a member of the Parks
and Recreation Advisory Committee. Commissioner Bateman outlined the advisory
committee's agenda for their next meeting.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
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Agenda
City Hall
City of Olympia 601 4th Avenue E
Olympia, WA 98501
Contact: Amy Buckler
Meeting Agenda (360) 570-5847
Planning Commission
Monday, October 7, 2013 6:30 PM Council Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER
Estimated time for items 1-5: 15 minutes
1.A ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Sign-up sheets are provided at the meeting. During this time, citizens may address the Commission
regarding items related to City business, including items on the agenda, expect agenda items for which
the Commission either held a public hearing in the last 45 days, or will hold a public hearing within the
next 45 days.
4. ANNOUNCEMENTS
5. INFORMATION REQUESTS
Opportunity for Commissioners to ask staff questions about City or Planning Commission business.
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
13-0803 Special Presentation: Small Infill Housing
Attachments: 1. Infill Development Handbook from MRSC
2. Seattle Backyard Cottages (ADU) Guide
Expected time: 1 hour
13-0804 Briefing: Regional and Local Transportation Plans & Strategies Related to the
Urban Corridors (Cont. review of the ‘Urban Neighborhoods’ proposals)
Attachments: 1. Urban (High Density) Corridor FAQ
2. Revitalizing Urban Transit Corridors Report
3. Summary of UCTF Recommendations
Expected time: 45 minutes
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13-0805 PUBLIC HEARING & Deliberation: OPC Recommendation on the Draft
2014-2019 Capital Facilities Plan
Attachments: 1. Link to the 2014-19 Preliminary CFP
2014-19 CFP Draft Letter OPC 100713
Expected time: 45 minutes
13-0799 Deliberation: Code Amendment to Change Rezone Hearing Body
Attachments: Draft Code Amendment OMC 18.58
Expected time: 30 minutes
7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Estimated time: 5 minutes
13-0553 Approval of July 15, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Attachments: Draft Minutes
13-0759 Approval of August 19, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Attachments: Draft Minutes
13-0734 Approval of September 9, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Attachments: Draft Minutes
8. REPORTS
- Leadership Team
- Finance Subcommittee
- Liaison Assignments
Estimated time: 10 minutes
9. ADJOURNMENT
Approximately 9:30 PM
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