Public Works & Utilities Committee
Regular MeetingOregon, WI · March 22, 2023
Minutes
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Pursuant to Wis. Stat. § 19.84, notice is hereby given to the public by the Chairperson of the Public Works & Utilities
Committee, that the following meeting will be held:
Meeting: Public Works & Utilities Committee Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2023
Location: Village Hall; 117 Spring Street Time: 5:00 PM
Note: Any person who has a qualifying disability as defined by the Americans with Disabilities Act that requires the meeting
or materials at the meeting to be in an accessible location or format must contact the Village Clerk at (608) 835-3118, 117
Spring Street, Oregon, Wisconsin, at least twenty-four (24) hours prior to the commencement of the meeting so that any
necessary arrangements can be made to accommodate each request.
MEETING MINUTES
1) Call to Order
Public Works Chair Phil Van Kampen called the Public Works & Utilities Committee Meeting to
order at 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, March 22, 2023.
2) Roll Call
Present: Derek Below, Phil Van Kampen, and Mike Wunsch.
Also Present: Public Works Director Jeff Rau, Public Works Street Superintendent Nick Haak,
Village Administrator Martin Shanks, and Director of Administrative Services Peggy Haag.
Finance Director Lisa Novinska, Village Clerk Candie Jones, Carlene Bechen, and Amanda
Peterson were present in the audience with other members of the public.
3) Approval of May 23, 2022, Public Works & Utilities Committee meeting minutes
Wunsch moved, seconded by Below, to approve the May 23, 2022, Public Works & Utilities
Committee Meeting Minutes.
Motion carried 3-0.
4) Business (Items are for discussion and / or potential action)
a) Update on 2023 construction projects in the Village.
Rau referenced and reviewed memo 4a dated March 9, 2023, in the meeting packet.
b) Update on progress of wastewater treatment plant preliminary design and planned 2023 /
2024 phase 1 design.
Rau referenced and reviewed memo 4b dated March 9, 2023, in the meeting packet. Rau
commended Town and County Engineering for their phenomenal design but thinks it is
important to have more than one engineering company look at the project so there are a
few sets of eyes reviewing it.
Wunsch asked if the staff plans to incorporate solar energy into the project. The Village
can look at solar energy, but Rau anticipates it will add additional costs upfront. Below is
concerned about the price. When the preliminary design wraps up, the staff will receive
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updated numbers from Town and Country. Funding for this project will be through a
clean water fund loan.
c) Update on progress of new Village Hall remodel project and planned moving activities
for April 2023.
There is a bit of a delay in installing the carpet and millwork. Staff is hoping to move in
the week of April 17-21st. Rau anticipates the second floor will take a little longer. There
will be significant cost savings by using Public Works staff for moving.
d) Village Mowing Program Report & Recommendations.
1. Presentation of report by staff, including history, background, analysis, and
recommendations; and Committee discussion.
Rau said the mowing frequency has been an ongoing debate in the Village for many
years, long before he was the Director of Public Works. At the end of the day, staff
acknowledges the item for discussion is literally grass. There are many other areas
Public Works deals with that involve life, health, and safety for residents that take
priority. Rau did something similar in 2017 and gave background on mowing then. In
hindsight, he would have gone through the process differently by having public input
and talking to the Village Board. At the time, he was reacting to getting other
important jobs done.
In 2022 the Oregon Nature Alliance introduced No Mow May for its inaugural debut.
There were some successes and failures. There was increased awareness and
education. The problem is when the grass is long, it does not encourage pollinators. It
was a challenge in June to mow, and it was hard on the equipment. Rau agreed with
some complaints about people being unable to use the parks. There were things staff
learned from the process. In May of 2022, Rau documented areas by photo around
the Village, that staff is recommending mowing less frequently now.
Rau asked the Public Works Committee how they would like to proceed with No
Mow May for 2023. He does not like the idea of the park grass growing long. His
recommendation would be to have No Mow May through the year for non-essential
and secondary areas. Rau feels this topic is worthy of discussion. At the Board’s
request, they wanted mowing reevaluated again. The Public Works Department
mows a lot of areas. It takes a lot of fuel. There are emissions for the mowers. There
is staff time. The Board wanted Rau to quantify cost savings, if any, for a reduced
mowing schedule. Staff held two public forums. There were about 12 people for the
first and 5 or 6 people for the second forum. The concerns tend to be, “We have
always done it that way,” or “It has been like a park in my backyard.” Most of the
areas you see in this presentation are not parks. They are stormwater areas or other
semi-natural areas. Rau doesn’t blame them. If you are used to something behind
your house for years, and someone wants to make a change, change is not always
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easy. Rau stressed that the areas discussed are not parks. They are stormwater areas
intended for stormwater use.
Public Works staff currently mows approximately 276 acres of land. In the packet,
the map consists of green areas, which are primary areas. Secondary stormwater
areas are blue.
Rau said it is hard to quantify a change in your operation and what the savings are,
but he does believe there are savings to be had. A lot of factors go into how long it
takes to mow an area. It is easy to underestimate the hours it takes. Not much of the
village is a flat soccer field. Rau estimated the number of hours it takes to mow and
then talked to Billy Hanson in the Parks Department. Rau and Hanson were within
5% of each other.
Rau reviewed a spreadsheet he created that includes five categories of land to mow
and the planned mowing frequency. In summary, there are 275.88 acres to mow in
the Village. When Rau worked on his spreadsheet, gas prices were around $4.50 per
gallon, but they have come down since. The estimated use is 3.5 gallons per hour. It
costs approximately $15.23 per hour for maintenance and equipment repairs. Rau
estimates there are 5,000 hours of mowing per year. Rau anticipates reducing the
number by 2,000 hours with the proposed reduction and cost savings of $62,000.
Rau is open to suggestions for the planned mowing frequency if the Public Works
Committee feels different than he does. Rau reiterated the five categories and their
mowing frequency. Parks are listed in Category 1 and mowed all the time. In
Category 2 are paths and areas mowed monthly. Categories 3 & 4 are stormwater
areas, and Category 5 are areas not currently mowed.
Rau realizes this mowing schedule is not popular with people. In areas not getting
mowed as frequently, staff will mow a buffer strip of 15 feet every other week. Rau
reached out to neighboring communities to see if they mow their drainage pond and
swale areas. The response he received is they may get mowed once a year.
2. Public Hearing. This part of the agenda allows members of the public to provide
information to the Committee related to the topic of the public hearing. Members of
the public who desire to speak on the topic may be requested to complete and file a
registration form with the village clerk to assist in keeping an accurate record of the
proceedings. A time limit of 3 minutes per speaker is set unless otherwise modified by
the Committee. Comments from the public are encouraged to be concise and
germane to the topic of the public hearing. Individuals are encouraged to refrain
from personal attacks. In the interest of avoiding repetitive testimony individuals and
groups with the same viewpoints are encouraged to appoint a spokesperson. Written
testimony, in lieu of verbal testimony, may be provided to the village clerk and will be
accepted until
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12:00 pm on the day of the hearing. All written testimony will then be forwarded to
members of the Committee and entered into the Committee’s proceedings but may
not be read at the hearing.
The Public Hearing opened at 5:35 p.m.
Justin Sieglaff of 1120 South Perry Parkway contacted Glysch and Rau after No
Mow May. He did not care for the parks, medians, or sidewalk areas not being
mowed, kids in soccer with wet pants on a 40-degree morning, or decaying grass in
the parks. Sieglaff read through the PDF and thinks the proposal is a great policy
change. It addresses his concerns, it is logical, and is a cost savings. He thinks No
Mow May should start with homeowners. If the Village wants to support pollinators,
Sieglaff suggested a designated area.
Theresa Nelson of 739 Swallow Tail Drive thanked Rau for his thoughtful report. He
looked at many aspects of mowing. There is no “one size fits all” in the areas
discussed. As a citizen, she is happy to see staff looking at a way to do things better.
As a professional stormwater engineer, she sees the benefits of water quality with
reduced mowing. Taller plants will have deep roots and help reduce erosion. As a
member of the Oregon Nature Alliance, Nelson is happy about the potential
environmental and habitat benefits of less frequent mowing. The taller plants,
especially if they are native plants, help provide food and shelter and allow an
increase in biodiversity. There is an opportunity to learn about invasive species. If
there are fewer mowed areas, we have to look at what is growing there to be sure we
are not allowing invasive species to flower, reseed, and spread. As the chair of the
Village’s Ad Hoc Sustainable Committee, the environmental benefits are in line, but
also, reduced fossil fuel usage and emissions are important. Change isn’t easy, but
there are a lot of justifications for the proposal put together. Nelson supports Rau’s
plan. The plan does not have to be just about mowing; it can be more of a land
management plan.
Joe Szpak of 475 Cledell Street is against the change, specifically about the High
Meadows Dry Basin Large. The 2023 mowing proposal states the High Meadows
Dry Basin Large would be mowed once in the spring and once in the fall, which is a
change. Historically, this area has been mowed regularly. He is disappointed to see
the proposed change. The mowing proposal justifies the proposed changes by saying
there will be cost savings for the Village, but there is no discussion of what might be
lost. He agrees there will be some savings. Some losses need consideration, such as a
reduction of spontaneous outdoor play. The area has public access and is a seamless
continuation of the existing park. There will be a loss of practice and warm-up space
for soccer teams and families. This space is used daily throughout the soccer season.
There will be a decrease in the strength of the neighborhood community. There will
be an increased trash accumulation and general untidiness. The Village needs to be a
good neighbor to the residents adjacent to High Meadows Park and perform proper
maintenance on this land. There will be an increase in nuisance animals and insects.
Szpak said long grass is a habitat for rodents, mosquitos, and ticks. There will be a
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decrease in property value. Szpak purchased his home in 2009 during a buyer’s
market. There were many housing options to choose from, but he chose Cledell Street
because of the green space behind the property. There will be some savings when
mowing is reduced; however, when looking at the actual cost saving, specifically for
High Meadows Dry Basin Large, it is a heavy net loss for the Oregon Community.
Szpak said the mowing plan states what has been a starting recommendation. He
hopes the mowing frequency for the High Meadows Dry Basis Large can return to
number one in the mowing plan.
Jim Wunsch of 467 Cledell Street said he understands what is going on and Rau’s
dilemma, but he is in the same position as Szpak. He is against the mowing change
for High Meadows Basin and other areas like this. The greenspace is more of an
extension of the park and gets used that way. He would suggest Public Works
Committee members visit the High Meadows Basin if they haven’t. Jim Wunsch
asked if the Public Works equipment can mow the grass after a month because of its
Closed Public Hearing at 5:49 p.m.
3. Discussion by Committee members.
In Below's opinion, there needs to be some fluidity and more of a land management
plan for mowing. He suggests looking at the mowing plan annually and is open to
looking at increasing mowing in the High Meadows area. Below would like to see the
Village continue to support No Mow May, but more residentially instead of a
Village-wide approach. He agrees with Rau’s assessment of parks and playground
areas and appreciates the comprehensive report.
Wunsch also commended Rau for his work on the report. Wunsch supports No Mow
May but agrees with Below; the No Mow May process should be modified from last
year. It was noted to look at the growing season and wildlife for the best time to
mow.
Van Kampen agrees with Sieglaff’s comments that No Mow May should be more of
a residential focus. As far as general mowing practices, Van Kampen is in favor of
adopting the general mowing practices as presented in Table 1, page 17, of memo 4d,
dated 2/10/2023. Van Kampen has concerns about making an exception. Some of
these areas are not parks, although they may seem otherwise. As the Village grows,
there will be more area to mow and maintain. It will be difficult to continue to mow
everything. Van Kampen pointed out that Rau said, most of the time, other
communities are not mowing stormwater areas.
Rau mentioned there are many play areas in the Village. He feels strongly about
making exceptions to the mowing plan because it will open a door for other items in
the future. He recommends against the Public Works Committee making exceptions.
By mowing a buffer strip along High Meadows Park, it allows residents access to
200,000 square feet of area that is like a private park.
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Wunsch understands the Public Works Department has trimmed the budget in every
way they can. He supports the plan; and making an exception, although he may regret
it.
Below understands what Rau is saying about exceptions in principle; however, he
agrees with Wunsch. He looks at the compiled information as a baseline and
anticipates a changing document that will be revisited annually. He supports
changing High Meadows Basin from a three to a two, for mowing priority.
4. Recommendation to Village Board.
Below moved, seconded by Wunsch, to recommend the Village Board adopt the
mowing policy/plan as presented and change the mowing plan for High
Meadows Basin from a stage 3 to a stage 2 mowing area.
Shanks explained that if stormwater areas are mowed without restrictions in place,
and someone says they would like an area mowed that cannot be, what criteria will
the Board use to make a decision? The Board cannot discriminate. Perhaps it makes
sense to have a written policy and identify criteria for an exception.
Wunsch asked Rau how many stormwater basins sit dry. There is one at Vinyard, the
Veridian development, Bethel Green Acre, and the Highlands of Netherwood area.
Rau said this presents a unique opportunity for seeding and more natural areas, but it
is not cheap to seed, and Rau does not claim to be a Botanist. There would need to be
education on native versus invasive species, but these things take time.
Below withdrew the motion, and Wunsch withdrew his second.
Wunsch moved, seconded by Below, to present the information discussed to the
Village Board.
Motion carried 2-1 with Van Kampen voting no.
5) Adjournment
Below moved, seconded by Wunsch, to adjourn the Regular Public Works & Utilities
Commission Meeting at 6:22 p.m. on Wednesday, March 22, 2023.
Motion carried 3-0.
Submitted by,
Peggy Haag
Director of Administrative Services
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