Historic Preservation Commission

VILLAGE OF OSSINING Planning Department John Paul Rodrigues Ossining Operations Center 101 Route 9A, Ossining, N.Y. 10562 Tel: (914)762-6232 www.villageofossiningny.gov HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AGENDA Monday, January 5, 2026 7:00 PM PLEASE TAKE NOTICE: The Historic Preservation Commission will meet in person at the Ossining Operations Center, 101 Rt. 9A, Ossining, N.Y. 10562. The Commission will use a hybrid format, which includes videoconferencing. The public may attend in person; however, they will also continue to have the opportunity to see and hear the meeting live through Zoom, and provide comments during the appropriate time. The public has the right to attend the meeting from any location where a member of the public body is participating. Comments can also be emailed before and during the meeting to Plan@villageofossiningny.gov. The meeting will be recorded, and a transcript of the meeting will be available at a later date. Zoom Link: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/95938183057 Dial-in by phone: 1+(929)205-6099 Webinar ID: 959 3818 3057 _____________________________________________________________________ I. CONTINUING BUSINESS OF THE BOARD A. HPC 09-2025 107-113 Main Street, 89.19-6-11, Hacienda El Patio, Applicant, in a VC zoned district Applicant Request: Applicant is seeking a certificate of appropriateness for painting the facade of the building. [§270-25E] Date Originally Submitted: August 28, 2025 Comments: Applicant did not appear last month. 107 Main St. HPC Application (8-28-25) 107 Main St. Photos (8-28-25) 107 Main St. Owner Authorization (8-28-25) II. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OF THE BOARD A. Meeting Transcript HPC Mtg. Transcript 1-5-26 B. Update: Black Historic District Sample Page C. Update: Historic Preservation Tax Credit Program and Grants Landmark Designation Revision (002) Historic Preservation Commission January 5, 2026 Page 1 of 33 Agenda Item #A. VILLAGE OF OSSINING Planning Department John-Paul Rodrigues Ossining Operations Center 101 Route 9A, PO Box 1166 Ossining, NY 10562 (914) 762-6232 www.villageofossiningny.gov _____________________________________________________________________________________ HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION APPLICATION APPLICATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED AT CITYSQUARED.COM WITH A REFERRAL FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR. PROPERTY INFORMATION Location of Project:_____________________________________________________________ 107 Main St, Ossining NY 11 Section___________Block__________Lot__________ 89.19 6 Zoning VC District:________________ CONTACT INFORMATION Owner:_______________________________________________________________________ Jennette Gonzalez Address:______________________________________________________________________ 13 Meadowbrook Drive, Ossining NY, 10562 Telephone: ________________________________________________ Email:__ _____________________________________ Architect/Engineer:_____________________________________________________________ N/A Address:______________________________________________________________________ Telephone:____________________________________________________________________ Email:________________________________________________________________________ Please Check Action Requested: Certificate of Appropriateness for sign/awning $125 Certificate of Appropriateness for all other actions $175 Designation of Landmark or Historic District Donation of Façade Easement Brief Description of Proposal: ______________________________________________________________________________ The job done was a simple repaint from the red that was painted before to blue ______________________________________________________________________________ to match the Greek theme, none of the brick was painted and the mouldings ______________________________________________________________________________ were kept white ______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________ 1 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:52 pm, Aug 28, 2025 Page 2 of 33 Agenda Item #A. General Information  Applications must be complete and submitted to the Department of Planning by 12:00 pm on the deadline date (see attached schedule). NO EXCEPTIONS. If the application is deemed incomplete by the Department Staff you will be contacted.  Applicant must be the owner, tenant, or contract vendee.  The applicant or a representative must be present at the hearing in order for the application to be considered.  Please refer to the Village of Ossining’s Architectural Guidelines on the Village website.  If an approval is granted by the Historic Preservation Commission, no construction shall commence until all required approvals are granted and permits obtained through the Building Department. The Building Department can be contacted at (914) 941-3199.  Applicants whose property is located in a historic district must simultaneously file and application with the Board of Architectural Review.  Applications requesting designation of landmark or historic district or donation of a façade easement: If a positive recommendation from the HPC is received, the Village Board of Trustees will take up the application and will hold a public hearing. 2 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:52 pm, Aug 28, 2025 Page 3 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Checklist for HPC Application Pre-Application Meeting. Date:_______________________ A copy of the referral letter from the Building Inspector. This requires an application to the Building Department. Completed application form Copy of the deed Contract, Notarized Owner Authorization Form, or power of attorney (if applicant is not the owner) A digital copy of all application documents submitted at www.citysquared.com Building elevations that include exterior architectural features which are proposed to be changed.* Descriptions of materials and colors should be labeled on the plans. Photographs of the affected building elevations, as well as the immediate surrounding areas Renderings of the subject building in context with the surrounding buildings Cut sheets for doors and windows, as well as any other ornamental architectural features Samples of colors and/or materials (bring to meeting or provide high-resolution images) Provide any available historical information, photos, or date of construction For signs or lettering: o A scale drawing showing the type of lettering, all dimensions and colors, a description of materials to be used and the method of illumination, if any, and a plan showing the location of the building/property For Designation of Landmark or Historic District: o Completed application o Outline of location of the district or landmark and reasons why it should be considered o Evidence regarding historical, cultural, and/or architectural significance o Description of the general character of the area For Donation of façade easement: o Completed application o Photographs of property o Brief outline of the location of the façade and reasons why it should be considered All application fees/escrow paid to the Village of Ossining By signing below, you deem this application complete according to the directives set forth by the Village of Ossining Planning Department and the Village of Ossining Zoning Code. Signature of Owner:_____________________________________________________________ Signature of Applicant (if not owner):_______________________________________________ Date:________________________ 8/28/2025 3 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:52 pm, Aug 28, 2025 Page 4 of 33  Agenda Item #A. Page 5 of 33 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:51 pm, Aug 28, 2025  Agenda Item #A. Page 6 of 33 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:51 pm, Aug 28, 2025  Agenda Item #A. Page 7 of 33 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:51 pm, Aug 28, 2025  Agenda Item #A. Page 8 of 33 By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:51 pm, Aug 28, 2025 Agenda Item #A. By Village of Ossining Planning Dept. at 12:52 pm, Aug 28, 2025 Page 9 of 33 Agenda Item #A. WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.830 --> 00:00:01.600 Planning Dept.: Lovely. 2 00:00:03.620 --> 00:00:05.400 Planning Dept.: Do we have anybody in attendance? 3 00:00:08.189 --> 00:00:11.190 Planning Dept.: No counsel today? We do. Oh, good. 4 00:00:11.360 --> 00:00:24.369 Planning Dept.: Oh, Ethan's here. Hi, Ethan. Oh, okay. I'll make Ethan a panelist. And we have a quorum to vote in person, so… Well, I think this is the applicant. So, Chair, do you want to call the meeting to order? Yes, call the meeting to order. Stan Dude. 5 00:00:24.460 --> 00:00:37.760 Planning Dept.: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:37.930 --> 00:00:39.230 Planning Dept.: Thank you. 7 00:00:42.590 --> 00:00:52.170 Planning Dept.: Good evening. So, I'm gonna call the roll. We do have a quorum here in person, but we also have, Ethan Alter, at home. Hi, Ethan. 8 00:00:52.410 --> 00:00:56.669 ethanalter: Hey, sorry I couldn't be there, but I'm glad I'm not getting you all sick, so… 9 00:00:56.670 --> 00:01:01.539 Planning Dept.: All right. We have a quorum, so, you know, it'll be good to… it's good to have you on the call, though. 10 00:01:01.540 --> 00:01:02.060 ethanalter: Yep. 11 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:10.130 Planning Dept.: All right, Michael Bevavina? Here. Mark Gospel? Here. Captain Wilson? Here. And Chair Barbowitz? Here. Okay. 12 00:01:10.470 --> 00:01:21.770 Planning Dept.: We only have one item on the agenda this evening, and Jeanette, I see your hand raised, so I believe you're the applicant. I'm going to bring you over, just unmute, and turn on your camera if you can, Page 10 of 33 Agenda Item #A. please. 13 00:01:33.260 --> 00:01:33.770 Jennette’s iPad: Hi. 14 00:01:34.140 --> 00:01:35.080 Planning Dept.: Hello! 15 00:01:35.080 --> 00:01:35.990 Jennette’s iPad: Aye. 16 00:01:37.190 --> 00:01:45.620 Planning Dept.: All right, so you're the applicant for HP09205, then the 107 to 113 Main Street. Correct. 17 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:46.810 Planning Dept.: Okay. 18 00:01:47.240 --> 00:01:55.180 Planning Dept.: You're… I don't know if we need to reach the problem, or you're… Restated. 19 00:01:55.700 --> 00:01:58.030 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, we could just restate it just for… 20 00:01:58.740 --> 00:02:03.480 Planning Dept.: Yeah, we're gonna go to the draw… Photos I think we have in a second. Yep. 21 00:02:03.790 --> 00:02:06.759 Planning Dept.: Maddie's taken care of that. Thank you, Maddie. Sure. 22 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:11.079 Planning Dept.: This is the one where the storefront was painted. 23 00:02:11.720 --> 00:02:15.600 Planning Dept.: Contrary to drawings which were approved. 24 00:02:17.150 --> 00:02:19.439 Planning Dept.: I think that's a fair way of captioning it. 25 00:02:32.580 --> 00:02:35.510 Planning Dept.: Yeah. Alright, Jeanette, can you see the screen? 26 00:02:35.510 --> 00:02:36.290 Jennette’s iPad: Yes. Page 11 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 27 00:02:36.290 --> 00:02:52.349 Planning Dept.: Okie doke. So again, this is, HPC09-2025, 10713 Main Street, Hacienda El Patio, applicant is seeking a certificate of appropriateness for painting the facade of the building. Jeanette, can you introduce yourself and your relation to the property? 28 00:02:52.670 --> 00:02:58.820 Jennette’s iPad: Yes, hi, my name is Jeanette, I am the owner of Haciend Del Patio at 107 Main Street in Ossining. 29 00:02:59.860 --> 00:03:12.099 Planning Dept.: Yeah, the issue at hand, just from these two pictures, it's not necessarily obvious, but on the far right, you can see there's a tinge of the yellow, do you want to call it cream-colored, sign band. 30 00:03:12.220 --> 00:03:12.910 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. 31 00:03:12.910 --> 00:03:18.719 Planning Dept.: It makes… if you take another shot of that property from a distance. 32 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:28.049 Planning Dept.: Now the building tends to read as two different buildings at that level, instead of… had it… instead of it reading as one building. 33 00:03:28.300 --> 00:03:34.170 Planning Dept.: Which is the way it was originally presented to us, and exists before the paint job. 34 00:03:34.470 --> 00:03:38.530 Planning Dept.: So, I think that's the issue at hand. 35 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:50.329 Planning Dept.: And if the house, if the building were to be repainted entirely in blue, the sign band going across, do you own the other side of that, line? 36 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:59.650 Jennette’s iPad: So, we rent, on the other side of the line, I believe, is, the Jamaican, restaurant that's there. 37 00:04:00.290 --> 00:04:00.740 Planning Dept.: Okay. 38 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:03.549 Jennette’s iPad: But the building itself is owned by one. 39 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:17.290 Page 12 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Planning Dept.: All right, well, and, you know, with the… well, anyways, I think I've stated the issue, and maybe, I don't know if you're… the only thing I imagine you're in control of is repainting and going back to the color that existed. 40 00:04:17.690 --> 00:04:33.749 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, so what happened there was we had hired, a painter to just, like, you know, touch up the paint. It was supposed to be the same color of, you know, the color that was there before, but there were some, like, holes and things that needed to be, you know, patched up. 41 00:04:34.050 --> 00:04:40.849 Jennette’s iPad: So… I don't know where along the lines I got, you know, confused to change the whole color. 42 00:04:41.020 --> 00:04:43.640 Jennette’s iPad: But yeah. 43 00:04:44.410 --> 00:04:47.640 Planning Dept.: Well, that seems to have been the only remedy you have. 44 00:04:49.220 --> 00:05:04.210 Planning Dept.: As far as the awning goes, I guess it was always contrasting. I suppose… I don't know, I need to go to a boat, but if it stays blue and you have the blue doors, that's, I guess, relatively consistent with the fact that it was beige before, although 45 00:05:04.290 --> 00:05:09.880 Planning Dept.: Then maybe someone might say the lettering could be blue instead of red, but… 46 00:05:10.060 --> 00:05:19.000 Planning Dept.: Because, you know, that's basically what you have. You have red lettering, red awnings, red doors, now you've got blue awning, blue doors, and red lettering. 47 00:05:19.150 --> 00:05:20.140 Planning Dept.: Yeah. 48 00:05:20.410 --> 00:05:24.630 Planning Dept.: Bringing it back to the way it was is what was approved. 49 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:31.079 Planning Dept.: Or what we, you know… We had no application to create it the way it is now. 50 00:05:31.530 --> 00:05:36.219 Jennette’s iPad: Okay, and if an application would be submitted for what it is now. 51 00:05:36.610 --> 00:05:42.920 Planning Dept.: I'm not sure how we… I think our discussions was we wouldn't be favorable for it, because Page 13 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 52 00:05:43.070 --> 00:05:51.319 Planning Dept.: as I said, this picture doesn't really highlight the issue, but from a distance, I don't know if it was Zoom or… not with Zoom, with Google Earth or something. 53 00:05:51.480 --> 00:06:08.739 Planning Dept.: I don't even know if it's got a recent picture. It now bifurcates, you know, the building in two. You know, there's a blue half and a beige half, and that's not the way it was. It's one entire building. And that's… we're not trying to be capricious about it, but thus, if there's anything… you know, we're here to… 54 00:06:08.880 --> 00:06:12.460 Planning Dept.: Render decisions on matters like that. 55 00:06:12.670 --> 00:06:19.200 Jennette’s iPad: I believe that when we went in and we discussed with the painter, he, I guess was… that he… 56 00:06:19.580 --> 00:06:25.289 Jennette’s iPad: Wanted to kind of distinct the businesses from being all one. 57 00:06:25.710 --> 00:06:38.989 Planning Dept.: Well, that's his decision he made without coming to us, and obviously, painting, as you know, is the curve of landmarks. I mean, we're volunteers, we come here because the village has decided that issues like that need to be reviewed. 58 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:48.069 Planning Dept.: If I might also, I'm sorry, Chair. Yeah. So, Jeanette, I know that you had asked what might happen if you were to apply to have done that. Yeah. 59 00:06:48.070 --> 00:07:09.010 Planning Dept.: So you actually have. That's why you're here tonight. So this is actually… this was a subject of a violation written by the building department, I believe. To clear that violation, one of the conditions is to make application to the HBC to see if we make you pay it back, if the HBC would be inclined to let you keep it. It sounds as though, from what I'm hearing from the chair, that that is likely not the case. 60 00:07:09.010 --> 00:07:15.619 Planning Dept.: Well, we could, I guess you're saying we could put it to a vote if anybody likes to cassette blue the way it is now. 61 00:07:15.620 --> 00:07:23.300 Planning Dept.: Well, what if… so before, it was a… it was the… the yellow background, and the awnings and the doors were red. 62 00:07:23.740 --> 00:07:24.900 Planning Dept.: So… Page 14 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 63 00:07:25.080 --> 00:07:36.259 Planning Dept.: No, that's plywood, that picture just shows plywood on the other side. Raven, I think that's… I think it's yellow. Is it a little orange? Oh, it is a little orange, yeah. They didn't match. 64 00:07:36.700 --> 00:07:42.960 Planning Dept.: If the… if the background went back to yellow, and the awnings and doors stayed blue. 65 00:07:43.460 --> 00:07:50.790 Planning Dept.: Would that… would that work at all, or is that gonna… that's gonna be… it's… I think that's… Better than having it the way it is now, yeah. 66 00:07:51.260 --> 00:07:53.029 Planning Dept.: I, I think, you know. 67 00:07:53.130 --> 00:08:08.129 Planning Dept.: That just, again, it's unfortunate we can't look at this building from a distance with the current situation, but I think, you know, I've walked by before, and it just is not the way it was. And to have a painter decide that, you know, all of a sudden it's going to be blue. 68 00:08:08.130 --> 00:08:20.539 Planning Dept.: and make it in two different buildings when it's clearly something under historic preservation jurisdiction. You know, that's… the village says we're supposed to opine on these matters, and I'm sorry that it's more of a hassle for you, but 69 00:08:20.610 --> 00:08:25.899 Planning Dept.: It's, you know, it seems to me a reasonable way to go. I mean, we'll take… 70 00:08:26.050 --> 00:08:41.279 Planning Dept.: painting it the beige or yellow color that exists next to it, and as, as Mark just mentioned, you know, I guess it's okay, leave the blue, and leave the blue, and leave the red letters, and at least the sign band 71 00:08:41.850 --> 00:08:49.830 Planning Dept.: I mean, ideally, the awning might be white, or something, you know… We just haven't seen it. 72 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:54.099 Planning Dept.: it's just very different. I suppose… 73 00:08:54.740 --> 00:08:58.739 Planning Dept.: We could take it to a vote. Do we want to say the awning should be changed, too? 74 00:08:58.860 --> 00:09:02.229 Planning Dept.: And the door is repainted. I don't know if… in my own opinion. Page 15 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 75 00:09:03.570 --> 00:09:10.430 Planning Dept.: It's… it's gonna look… I guess the awning aligns with the blue door, that could be a rationale for it. 76 00:09:11.050 --> 00:09:21.059 Planning Dept.: I mean, I'd be okay if it just got repainted the sideband, and not have to change the awning. I mean, we're not trying to make you do unnecessary work, or make it hard for you to succeed. 77 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:21.940 Jennette’s iPad: Right. 78 00:09:21.940 --> 00:09:32.759 Planning Dept.: We're sorry this happened, but obviously, if we let a painter decide what to do, you know, why should we bother showing up when the village says we have a mandate to look over these things? 79 00:09:33.130 --> 00:09:33.840 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. 80 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:47.940 Planning Dept.: So I think, you know, a reasonable compromise, in our opinion, it's up to, I guess, the boat. Yeah, because I understand your goal to look like a different entity than the restaurant next door, where it's a different color scheme, but, you know. 81 00:09:48.250 --> 00:09:52.779 Planning Dept.: If you keep the same The same backdrop, the same band. 82 00:09:53.040 --> 00:10:00.830 Planning Dept.: that one color, and then your awnings are different. That might help. I mean, I don't… What were you gonna say? Sorry. 83 00:10:00.830 --> 00:10:11.149 Jennette’s iPad: So, would it be okay to just repaint every, like, you know, yellow, and then keep the doors, and, the… what's above the… 84 00:10:11.150 --> 00:10:16.660 Planning Dept.: Yeah, and, you know, maybe the, lights, the lights can be painted, can't they? 85 00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:38.929 Planning Dept.: The lights have always been red. They've always been, no, but I wouldn't paint them… alright, they match the lettering, okay. Can you go back to the other picture where you've seen the whole building? See the pilasters, how they're all the same color across the whole building? Are they all red across the whole building? Yeah, so now that's, you know, but the door is white. 86 00:10:38.930 --> 00:10:46.339 Page 16 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Planning Dept.: So, you know, the pilaster should be painted red, And. 87 00:10:46.340 --> 00:10:48.250 Jennette’s iPad: And the pilaster is which one? 88 00:10:48.540 --> 00:10:50.809 Planning Dept.: Those are those vertical elements. 89 00:10:50.810 --> 00:10:51.460 Jennette’s iPad: Okay. 90 00:10:51.460 --> 00:11:02.869 Planning Dept.: That kind of looks crazy? Oh, God. You'll have a blue awning, red columns… So do you want to… well, what do you want to do? So do we make it… so do you leave it blue, because the doors are blue? 91 00:11:03.980 --> 00:11:07.360 Planning Dept.: Actually, there's two different blues, right? Received. 92 00:11:07.610 --> 00:11:09.180 Planning Dept.: applications? 93 00:11:09.820 --> 00:11:24.980 Planning Dept.: The owning blue and the received application, do you mean initially when this property came for your approval, like, 6 months ago? Yeah. I don't believe so. It was just the sign thing. Yeah, I mean… It was just the lettering. And the doors, too, changed. Everything changed, and it shouldn't have been that way. 94 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:32.920 Planning Dept.: So maybe then, you know, the doors get painted back to red? Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's not a big deal to paint the… now you got your awning. 95 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:39.759 Planning Dept.: and, you know, the awning being blue will be strange, you'll have red doors and everything. I, I, I, I guess… 96 00:11:40.550 --> 00:11:52.730 Planning Dept.: you know, for being consistent, it would go back to the way it was. Leave the red lettering, leave the red lights, paint everything back the way it was. And the awning changes to red. I don't know if you can paint the awning, but… 97 00:11:52.730 --> 00:12:10.180 Planning Dept.: They're painted currently. Oh, are they painted? I went and looked at them close. Oh my gosh. Red fabric awnings that were painted blue. Oh, well, alright, so it's not such an onerous problem that that paint's gonna flake off. Well, if it flakes off, it'll last… well, no, it's gonna paint it red, and then they were red originally. Page 17 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 98 00:12:10.390 --> 00:12:19.459 Planning Dept.: So, right now, leaving them blue, the blue would probably flake off. I'm surprised somebody would have painted those blue. So, you didn't buy a new awning that's blue then? 99 00:12:19.610 --> 00:12:20.450 Planning Dept.: Right? 100 00:12:21.390 --> 00:12:24.179 Jennette’s iPad: The awning being on top of the doors? 101 00:12:24.180 --> 00:12:25.989 Planning Dept.: Yeah, that's half circle. 102 00:12:26.130 --> 00:12:27.090 Jennette’s iPad: No. 103 00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:29.749 Planning Dept.: No meaning what? 104 00:12:29.750 --> 00:12:31.270 Jennette’s iPad: No, we didn't buy new ones. 105 00:12:31.270 --> 00:12:50.250 Planning Dept.: Oh, okay, so actually then it's an easier situation. The doors go back to red, the vertical elements that, you know, I call the pilaster, those get back to red, the doors are red, the sign band background is… it matches the adjacent color, and you paint the awning, because the guy painted it already anyway. 106 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.550 Planning Dept.: So, I don't believe that's gonna be… I'm sorry you have to do that, but… 107 00:12:54.660 --> 00:12:58.839 Planning Dept.: You know, we do have to, you know, fulfill our mandate. 108 00:12:59.280 --> 00:13:02.280 Jennette’s iPad: So, nothing can stay blue, basically. 109 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:21.119 Planning Dept.: Not that… no, it, I would say, it sounds like, Chair, what you're saying is it should revert to what was approved by this board earlier this year. Yeah. Which was the building looking the way it is, with the awning the way it was approved, and no blue. Yeah. If you want to propose a color drawing of a different 110 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.989 Page 18 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Planning Dept.: Option. We'll take a look at it, but… 111 00:13:24.400 --> 00:13:28.400 Planning Dept.: Yeah, that's fair. I mean, otherwise, it needs to go back to work. 112 00:13:28.400 --> 00:13:37.860 Jennette’s iPad: Restaurant itself, the restaurant is, you know, it's Greek food, so it kind of… the blue goes with the cuisine. It wasn't… 113 00:13:39.740 --> 00:13:49.390 Planning Dept.: Well, of course, the other doors are white, so, I suppose, you know, would we allow blue doors, but everything else is painted back the way it was? 114 00:13:49.390 --> 00:14:01.390 Planning Dept.: Well, I mean, if blue is the color of the restaurant, like, the signage isn't blue, and that's, like, the one element of the style that's specific to the business, so I don't know. 115 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:10.010 Planning Dept.: Yeah, actually, what's it? The name of the restaurant is El Patio, but it's a Greek restaurant. 116 00:14:10.270 --> 00:14:11.630 Planning Dept.: Is that what we're saying? 117 00:14:11.630 --> 00:14:17.870 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, there was just some confusion along the lines, after the name was changed, and then, 118 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:26.209 Jennette’s iPad: Which cuisine was going to be introduced. And then to change the name all over again, you know, it was a whole… 119 00:14:26.340 --> 00:14:30.989 Jennette’s iPad: Other application that would have to be, you know, To change the name. 120 00:14:31.570 --> 00:14:43.519 Planning Dept.: I have to tell you, as a customer, a potential customer, I haven't had the pleasure of going in, but, you know, it wouldn't occur to me that's Greek, and painting it blue wouldn't tell me it's Greek either. You know, I think… 121 00:14:44.470 --> 00:14:45.870 Planning Dept.: What can I say? I mean… 122 00:14:45.870 --> 00:14:46.540 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. Page 19 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 123 00:14:46.540 --> 00:14:49.880 Planning Dept.: He wanted to make the lettering, change it to blue. 124 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:56.990 Planning Dept.: you know, and still keep that name, I suppose then that would be a reason to say, okay, then to keep the doors 125 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:57.870 Planning Dept.: Blue. 126 00:14:59.220 --> 00:14:59.980 Jennette’s iPad: Okay. 127 00:15:00.950 --> 00:15:04.360 Planning Dept.: The sport restaurant, sign, that was always there. 128 00:15:04.900 --> 00:15:05.500 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. 129 00:15:06.780 --> 00:15:11.379 Planning Dept.: That was grandfathered, I guess. We can't do anything… we shouldn't do anything about it. 130 00:15:12.790 --> 00:15:18.450 Planning Dept.: Yeah, so the resolution… for our point of view, the solution is… 131 00:15:19.250 --> 00:15:25.560 Planning Dept.: Things get back to being painted, the red. 132 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:27.419 Planning Dept.: The way you see it. 133 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:40.419 Planning Dept.: And, I can go back to… it was the April 7th meeting where the initial approvals were. Would the board like to see… Yeah, we can see what we approve before, that'd be great. 134 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:45.519 Planning Dept.: Which one? That seems to be the… Most reasonable 25 cents. 135 00:16:16.350 --> 00:16:17.420 Planning Dept.: Okie doke. 136 00:16:18.180 --> 00:16:27.659 Planning Dept.: So this was what was before this board, and which was approved, I believe, as is in April. Page 20 of 33 Agenda Item #A. That's what I recall. 137 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:30.770 Planning Dept.: So… Yeah. 138 00:16:31.090 --> 00:16:33.050 Planning Dept.: You know, the, 139 00:16:34.660 --> 00:16:44.680 Planning Dept.: Yeah, it's pretty unified, actually, before, I mean, right, and the yellow. Not that the yellow matched, but it was a lot less contrasting than we have now. So, is there… 140 00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:50.020 Planning Dept.: I guess possibly we have to take this to a vote, but my own suggestion is 141 00:16:50.370 --> 00:16:52.910 Planning Dept.: Just bring it back to the way it was. 142 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:57.110 Planning Dept.: And if you want to change the color of your sign up above. 143 00:16:57.460 --> 00:17:01.640 Planning Dept.: To make it blue, then that would be a rationale to make the doors blue again. 144 00:17:01.800 --> 00:17:03.129 Planning Dept.: Or make them blue. 145 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.860 Planning Dept.: But, you know, the, and as far as the awning goes. 146 00:17:08.050 --> 00:17:16.619 Planning Dept.: I guess we're saying that would go back to red, because that would be the color of the doors, and the pilasters, the vertical elements, would be red again. 147 00:17:18.380 --> 00:17:22.510 Planning Dept.: And that's, do I hear a motion to vote on it that way? 148 00:17:23.930 --> 00:17:34.650 Planning Dept.: We don't have a choice. It has to go back to what was approved. Otherwise, otherwise we're designing it, so I shouldn't be careful. Any other comments? That's a good point. That is a really good point. Yeah. 149 00:17:35.030 --> 00:17:53.690 Planning Dept.: Yeah, so shall we take a vote? Do I hear a motion to vote? The motion is to, bring it back to Page 21 of 33 Agenda Item #A. the condition it was when it was first brought to us. Or propose something alternative to the new application. Right. Yeah, there could be a new application. If blue is really important, maybe change the lettering of your… of Alpatio. 150 00:17:53.840 --> 00:17:58.300 Planning Dept.: And then change it back, the doors and such, if you want. Yeah. 151 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.609 Jennette’s iPad: Did do an application for that as well, to… 152 00:18:01.610 --> 00:18:07.880 Planning Dept.: Or you could… I don't know if, to save time, if you want to just resubmit the way, you know, 153 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:13.009 Planning Dept.: member Gossipole just suggested, and leave this open, and then submit that back. 154 00:18:13.390 --> 00:18:17.520 Planning Dept.: I guess that, if that makes it easier, What do you mean? 155 00:18:18.710 --> 00:18:26.039 Planning Dept.: I wish Stuart were here. Stuart's our Corporation Counselor, Jeanette, I'm sorry. I sort of wonder… 156 00:18:26.660 --> 00:18:30.179 Planning Dept.: Is… is the board entertaining? 157 00:18:30.610 --> 00:18:37.709 Planning Dept.: anything what they're seeing in the current application, because if not, I don't know how you would proceed. 158 00:18:37.900 --> 00:18:44.860 Planning Dept.: Well, we proceed in saying it should have been… right now, in the advent of them abandoning this idea of blue. 159 00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:53.120 Planning Dept.: You bring it back to the pictures you had from the April submission. The sign band is painted to match the adjacent sign band. 160 00:18:53.120 --> 00:19:08.039 Planning Dept.: the things are red. But with the condition that before the application be re-heard, it needs to be returned to… Oh, that's a fine… That's what I'm really asking. Well, I think then we have to ask the applicant. If the applicant want to come back next month with some kind of images, I mean. 161 00:19:08.350 --> 00:19:17.419 Planning Dept.: Of saying, okay, I'm gonna change the sign, color, and keep the doors blue, but do Page 22 of 33 Agenda Item #A. everything else the way we said. 162 00:19:17.620 --> 00:19:27.429 Planning Dept.: Because otherwise, I just worry we're in this hamster wheel, you know. I mean, this is essentially an application for what's there, and we're saying, you know. 163 00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:44.549 Planning Dept.: that we're potentially not approving that. But the question is, does the applicant want to propose some type of compromise and appear back before us again? Or if not, then, you know, our vote is just to deny 164 00:19:44.620 --> 00:19:59.470 Planning Dept.: the application for the condition it's in. We're not legalizing… we're not legalizing what was done without permission. That's… I think that's as easy a way to vote on it than it is not. What was, you know, they changed… what the application was… 165 00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:07.160 Planning Dept.: Versus what's been painted is not for the approval, so we're voting to maintain that prior judgment. 166 00:20:07.290 --> 00:20:14.560 Planning Dept.: And right now, in the absence of you proposing anything different, in a way we could appreciate, you know, by looking at something. 167 00:20:14.660 --> 00:20:18.780 Planning Dept.: It… You know, it's gonna have to go back to the way it was. 168 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:20.790 Planning Dept.: And, 169 00:20:21.930 --> 00:20:34.669 Planning Dept.: You know, that's, that's the way we'd be voting. We don't want the band, in particular, to be a vibrant contrast to the other one next to it. The building looks like two different buildings. 170 00:20:34.850 --> 00:20:41.580 Planning Dept.: And we're sorry, but, you know, that's just the way the regulations go. We have to maintain our purview for it. 171 00:20:44.390 --> 00:20:45.930 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, I understand. 172 00:20:48.750 --> 00:20:51.970 Planning Dept.: I mean, I think it's a… it's a fair question. 173 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:57.039 Page 23 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Planning Dept.: whether or not we would accept just changing the band back? 174 00:20:57.780 --> 00:21:01.189 Planning Dept.: And leaving the other blue elements, yeah, we'll… 175 00:21:01.540 --> 00:21:08.380 Planning Dept.: Well, I'll tell you, here's a compromise, and I'm not sure it makes any sense for you, because we do… 176 00:21:08.500 --> 00:21:17.280 Planning Dept.: We really don't like having to make anybody change something, but it is a… probably… it was a very unnecessary step the painter took, and 177 00:21:17.380 --> 00:21:19.859 Planning Dept.: You could just repaint the sign band. 178 00:21:20.570 --> 00:21:30.400 Planning Dept.: take a picture of it, we come by, and we can then judge whether any more paintings needed to be done, but I'm not sure, you know, that makes it worthwhile for you, it's being efficient. 179 00:21:30.670 --> 00:21:36.759 Planning Dept.: You know, and have the other stuff blue. I mean, it looks like it's… you know. 180 00:21:37.550 --> 00:21:40.250 Planning Dept.: Maybe it'd be okay. I don't know. 181 00:21:40.590 --> 00:21:43.859 Planning Dept.: If we see a pig… I mean, if that's what you'd like to do. 182 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:55.289 Planning Dept.: paint it to match the sign band, and I guess, you know, even leave the awning red, if that's a big deal… blue, if that's a big deal for you. You can always come back. 183 00:21:55.370 --> 00:22:05.550 Planning Dept.: And, you know, with the thing now changed, that's better than any drawing or photograph you could change. And leave it at that. Maybe it's okay, maybe it isn't. 184 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:07.639 Planning Dept.: Is that of any interest to you? 185 00:22:08.170 --> 00:22:11.760 Jennette’s iPad: to do exactly. 186 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:22.019 Page 24 of 33 Agenda Item #A. Planning Dept.: Can I… can I try to say it differently? Yeah. And tell me if I got it wrong? So, Jeanette, this area, the flat part, the flat part behind the letter signage. 187 00:22:22.350 --> 00:22:37.780 Planning Dept.: Turn that back to the color it was, so all of that matches, and leave the awning blue, leave the door blue, leave the stuff that you painted on the doorways blue, take a picture, and then if the board says, yeah, that works, that's good enough. 188 00:22:37.780 --> 00:22:46.919 Planning Dept.: then good. If the board says, nope, still too much blue, take something else blue out. It's a compromise, so maybe it'll be okay. You know, instead of you trying to draw 189 00:22:46.920 --> 00:23:02.670 Planning Dept.: give us a color drawing of what it might look like, just get the painter back to just do the… what we call the sign band, where your signs are, and maybe it's okay. I mean, we… we honestly don't want to make it really hard for you, but we do have to maintain some standards. 190 00:23:03.270 --> 00:23:10.349 Jennette’s iPad: We could start from there, you know, painting, as you say, the, you know, the flat part that's there all 191 00:23:10.750 --> 00:23:17.880 Jennette’s iPad: Back to the same color that's there, and then, I'll leave everything else blue. 192 00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:19.360 Jennette’s iPad: And then… 193 00:23:19.360 --> 00:23:36.739 Planning Dept.: you know, that'll be that. And if, in the process, you don't like it, and you want to take it all back to where it used to be, that's approved. Yeah, that's a good point, too. I mean, if you don't even like it that way, just bring it all back to the way it was. That's a very good point. And actually, the silver lining is you'll probably do a better job matching the 194 00:23:36.850 --> 00:23:41.209 Planning Dept.: The adjacent yellow, then, was there before. 195 00:23:41.210 --> 00:23:46.559 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, we could start from there, and see how it looks, and if it just looks too crazy, then… 196 00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:48.939 Planning Dept.: Yeah, then you know what to do. 197 00:23:48.940 --> 00:23:58.310 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, yeah. Okay. And now, how… what is the time frame, time period, to get this done? Because now, you know, it's cold, and… Page 25 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 198 00:24:00.040 --> 00:24:12.019 Planning Dept.: I don't have an answer for you, I'm sorry, I don't know if we have an answer for that time period. I mean, I think the board would like to see this wrapped, you know, sometime in the spring, ideally, so… Yeah, I mean, because we can't. 199 00:24:12.020 --> 00:24:12.490 Jennette’s iPad: Yep, you're. 200 00:24:12.490 --> 00:24:14.570 Planning Dept.: It ain't freezing weather. 201 00:24:14.570 --> 00:24:15.180 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. 202 00:24:15.180 --> 00:24:16.490 Planning Dept.: Very good job. 203 00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:29.870 Planning Dept.: If this could be ready for the April meeting, which means the submission deadline would be at the end of March, does that seem reasonable? I think from a technical point of view, you could count on better pending conditions then than you can now. That's your point. 204 00:24:30.120 --> 00:24:30.920 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah. 205 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.729 Planning Dept.: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. 206 00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:38.140 Planning Dept.: So we wanna aim for… March, April. 207 00:24:38.450 --> 00:24:38.970 Planning Dept.: Yeah. 208 00:24:38.970 --> 00:24:40.659 Jennette’s iPad: The next meeting is when? 209 00:24:41.730 --> 00:24:52.869 Planning Dept.: This board meets every month, so we would be looking to have you on the April agenda, so that would be in the first week in April, which means you would need to have your photographs in by probably the second to last week in March. 210 00:24:52.870 --> 00:24:57.429 Jennette’s iPad: March, okay. Yeah, that's fine. I just want to make sure so I can keep the timeline. Page 26 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 211 00:24:58.450 --> 00:24:59.460 Jennette’s iPad: Went to her, yeah. 212 00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:04.430 Planning Dept.: Hopefully you prosper there. I'm gonna… I didn't realize it was Greek, actually. I'm… 213 00:25:04.430 --> 00:25:07.340 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, we had, a little bit of a, you know. 214 00:25:07.340 --> 00:25:08.720 Planning Dept.: lovely food. 215 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:21.019 Jennette’s iPad: that was supposed to manage, you know, help me manage, ended up leaving, and, you know, we ended up finding a new chef, and he specialized in Greek food, so we kinda had to alter everything. 216 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:30.199 Jennette’s iPad: You know, before. And then to put in new applications for a new name, to change the name, and all of that was a little bit too much work, so we're just gonna go with it and hope that… 217 00:25:30.360 --> 00:25:36.880 Jennette’s iPad: You know, so come on down and give us… Do you have free coffee on the menu? Yeah. 218 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:50.700 Planning Dept.: Oh, good, okay, I'm there. All right. Jeanette, one recommendation, when you resubmit the photo, make sure you capture the whole building together. We always ask. Yeah, that's a good point. 219 00:25:50.700 --> 00:25:51.759 Jennette’s iPad: Sure, no problem. 220 00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:57.550 Planning Dept.: All right, well, thank you. I'm sorry for this, you know, screw-up, but we have to follow the rules. 221 00:25:57.550 --> 00:25:59.329 Jennette’s iPad: Yeah, yeah, I know, I understand. 222 00:26:00.410 --> 00:26:05.130 Planning Dept.: All right, so, I think we're resolved then, and good luck with it. 223 00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:07.299 Jennette’s iPad: Great, thank you, have a good night. Page 27 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 224 00:26:07.300 --> 00:26:09.050 Planning Dept.: Thank you. 225 00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:13.140 Planning Dept.: All right. 226 00:26:15.300 --> 00:26:20.869 Planning Dept.: Chair, I know there were two other items, both of which we're not really prepared to discuss. 227 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:31.420 Planning Dept.: Yeah, and the only other thing I'd like to bring up ad hoc is, you know, from the meeting we had on Smith House, and we're going back on the 27th, right? 228 00:26:31.420 --> 00:26:50.370 Planning Dept.: Or the 20th, whatever… So, it's going to be another joint meeting of the HPC and the Planning Board in this room, at that date at 7 p.m. The date was, the Tuesday, I thought. So, will that count as our February meeting? It will not. It will not, unless… 229 00:26:50.370 --> 00:27:01.699 Planning Dept.: there's nothing on the February HPC agenda, in which case we will not see you in February. All right, and that's fine, and I thought… I never had a chance to ask anybody else, but I thought it was really productive to be able to 230 00:27:01.700 --> 00:27:13.989 Planning Dept.: do this jointly. Absolutely. Yeah, I couldn't make it. Yep. Makes it easier for the applicants, and see if I can make the next… I really wanted to make it, but couldn't… Yeah, I know, you will, you've got stuff to do, and even if you can Zoom it. 231 00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:17.910 Planning Dept.: I mean, we're not probably going to be having a final vote on it, 232 00:27:18.030 --> 00:27:37.889 Planning Dept.: Definitely not. So, so this is meant to be a coordinated review, so that everyone can ask the same questions at the same time, but ultimately, the HPC's work is the HPC's work, and you'll have to take it up at a meeting of your own. So, ultimately, when we vote, it'll be at our own meeting. That's correct. All right, so even doing it by Zoom is fine, because we're not going to rely on a vote at that time. 233 00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:53.679 Planning Dept.: if you had the time to Zoom it, Mark, or anyone else, I'll keep… I was on Zoom also, so… In the meantime, I can see all the documents online. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so… great. All right, well, thank you all for coming and being in here, and I make a motion 234 00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:59.139 Planning Dept.: Do I hear a motion to adjourn, or do I make a motion? Make it. Make a motion to adjourn! Page 28 of 33 Agenda Item #A. 235 00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:00.420 Planning Dept.: Anyone? 236 00:28:00.950 --> 00:28:06.479 Planning Dept.: Second? Second. Right, thank you very much. Good night. Go better, Easton. 237 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:11.999 ethanalter: Thank you, appreciate it. Everyone else avoid this, it's no fun. Bye-bye. Page 29 of 33 Agenda Item #B. Originally established in 1921 by William and Bessie Globerman, the Depot Square Hotel served railway commuters and travelers visiting Ossining. In 1956, it was purchased by Samuel and Mildred Buchanan, who operated it as a hotel and restaurant for nearly 20 years. The Depo Square Hotel became a key landmark in Ossining’s Black community, offering safe lodging during segregation and appearing in The Negro Motorist Green-Book from 1959 to 1963. Located near the railroad and Sing Sing Prison, it also served as a base for journalists covering major events in the village, including the 1934 bus tragedy. The Buchanans later expanded their impact by acquiring and managing multiple apartment buildings rented to Black families in Ossining. Page 30 of 33 Agenda Item #C. Guidance on landmark and historic district designation The Board of Trustees of the Village of Ossining, New York, has declared that it is a public purpose to ensure that Historical and Architectural Design Districts and Historic Landmarks be maintained and preserved to promote their use for the education, pleasure and welfare of the citizens of the Village of Ossining (the “Village”), New York, and others (excerpted from the Village Code). In furtherance of this, and to respond to numerous inquiries from Village residents regarding landmark and historic site designation, the Historic Preservation Commission publishes the following guidance. Benefits of landmark designation Landmark designation offers benefits for property owners and the Village including: • Protecting and preserving historically significant buildings, landscapes, and sites for future generations by discouraging and preventing demolition and inappropriate alterations. It is important to note that landmark designation does not necessarily prevent alterations made to update a property’s characteristics to conform with modern living and safety standards but instead helps ensure responsible and considerate change, allowing for updates and renovations while respecting the original character of a structure. • Economic benefits to individuals and the Village can include tourism (leading to increased revenue for local businesses); potentially higher property values (according to the National Trust for Historic Preservation); and access to funding and grants (including tax credits specifically designed to offset the costs of rehabilitation and maintenance). • Community revitalization, investment, identity and pride. • Sustainable development by promoting the reuse of existing structures, reducing waste, and lessening the environmental impact of new construction. Landmark designation occurs at three levels: federal, state, and local. The following sections points readers to the available guidance on this. State and national level The website of the New York State Historic Preservation Office (https://parks.ny.gov/shop/) provides extensive guidance on preservation programs, including listing on the State and National Historic Registers and information about tax credits and grants. The opening paragraphs of the home page of this website state the following: Page 31 of 33 Agenda Item #C. “What are the State and National Registers? The State and National Registers of Historic Places are the official lists of buildings, structures, districts, objects, and sites significant in the history, architecture, archeology, engineering, and culture of New York and the nation. The same eligibility criteria are used for both the State and National Registers. The National Historic Preservation Act of 1966 and the New York State Historic Preservation Act of 1980 established the National and State Registers programs. In New York, the Commissioner of the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation, who is also the State Historic Preservation Officer (SHPO), administers these programs. What are the results of listing? 1. Registered properties and properties determined eligible for the Registers receive a measure of protection from the effects of federal and/or state agency sponsored, licensed or assisted projects through a notice, review, and consultation process. 2. Owners of depreciable, certified historic properties may take a 20 percent federal income tax credit for the costs of substantial rehabilitation as provided for under the Tax Reform Act of 1986. 3. Municipal and not-for-profit owners of listed historic properties may apply for matching state historic preservation grants. There are no restrictions placed on private owners of registered properties. Private property owners may sell, alter or dispose of their property as they wish.” The website provides information on the application, evaluation, and nomination process; the assistance available to guide applicants through the process; and information on tax credits and grants to assist with preservation and maintenance of historic properties. The site also provides a list of contacts from whom and from which individuals can obtain more information on historic preservation and the historic designation process. In addition to the State website referenced above, the website of the Preservation League of New York State (https://www.preservenys.org) is a valuable resource for those seeking information on historic preservation. The site contains a trove of information on historic house preservation and restoration and many links to books, resources, and information on restoration, applications for designation, and tax credits. Local landmark and historic site designation Village requirements and guidelines for historical and architectural design districts and historic landmarks are presented in Section 270-25 of the Village Code (the “Code”, which is accessible from the home page of the Village’s website). Page 32 of 33 Agenda Item #C. The process for designation of an historic landmark or district in the Village is detailed in section 270.25c of the Code. This section describes the application procedure, what happens after an application is made (including review by the Historic Preservation Commission and the Board of Trustees). Included here is a list of some of the characteristics of a building, structure, parcel of land or area that would make a building or area worthy of landmark or historic district designation. Individuals seeking further information on the village’s architectural design recommendation and best practices should also consult the Village of Ossining Architectural Design Guidelines which presents a wealth of information on Ossining’s architecture and guidance on the development and preservation of structures in the Village. The Guidelines can be accessed in the left-hand column of the Historic Preservation Commission’s page on the Village website. Page 33 of 33