Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment Engagement Series - School Me

Village of Ossining Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment Engagement Series - Why Here, Why This, Why Now? Tuesday, March 9, 2021 @ 7:00 PM Ossining, New York HELD VIA VIDEO CONFERENCING Pursuant to Governor’s Executive Order 202.1 dated March 12, 2020 Members of the public can view the meeting via computer or mobile app: https://zoom.us/j/95775342238 Members of the public can listen to the meeting by dialing in via phone: +1 929 205 6099 Webinar ID: 957 7534 2238 **Please note that by dialing in, your phone number will be visible to the host, participants, and attendees of the meeting.** The Village’s fifth edition of the Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment ENGAGEMENT SERIES will include a discussion on the proposed development’s potential impact on the Ossining Union Free School District. With new development often comes new school children, which can create questions about tax revenue, capacity, and budget impact. Additionally, we plan to discuss the various public amenities proposed for the site, including the a Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment March 9, 2021 Engagement Series Page 1 of 47  much-needed pedestrian connection between upper Main Street and Station Plaza, the creation of space for retail opportunities, and over 3,500 square feet of state-of-the-art space for use by the local community groups, including the school district. Zoom info: https://zoom.us/j/95775342238 Please click this URL to join. +1 929 205 6099 Webinar ID: 957 7534 2238 **This message can be translated into over 100 languages on the Village's website www.villageofossining.org by clicking the "Select Language" option on the top of the page** Pursuant to Governor’s Executive Order 202.1 dated March 12, 2020 - the meeting transcript is attached. 3.9.2021 Transcript.pdf Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment March 9, 2021 Engagement Series Page 2 of 47 WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.669 --> 00:00:08.940 Rika Levin: Good evening everyone i'm mayor, we have a with us, a group of. 2 00:00:10.860 --> 00:00:27.360 Rika Levin: panelists and consists of my fellow trustees the village manager engineer, preferably consultants that work on what we call the dp w site, which is a housing initiative on our waterfront. 3 00:00:28.200 --> 00:00:42.330 Rika Levin: This particular session tonight, which is march 9 is about it's called lovingly school me, and it is really about the effects of this initiative. 4 00:00:43.050 --> 00:00:51.750 Rika Levin: about the school of the school system, our residents and, frankly, any other questions you have we have split it up into a number of sessions. 5 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.990 Rika Levin: In this public engagement forum, so that people can attend each session separately. 6 00:00:58.530 --> 00:01:06.030 Rika Levin: And in the area that is just them, or all of them sequentially or they can look up the recordings feel free to ask questions beyond. 7 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:18.720 Rika Levin: What this session is called but we'd like to stay focused, so that there is a focus to this conversation i'm going to turn this over to village manager Kevin dettori. 8 00:01:19.320 --> 00:01:36.450 Rika Levin: And we will bring on speakers as need be, she will go through with staff about a presentation to bring everybody up to date and then we're going to open it up to questions and answers which is really the purpose of this public engagement So here we go oh Karen dettori. 9 00:01:37.110 --> 00:01:40.530 Karen D'Attore: Thank you may or good evening everybody, thank you for joining us tonight. Page 3 of 47 10 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:48.000 Karen D'Attore: So without further ado i'm going to turn this presentation over to assistant village manager matt ISA hodge will will give you. 11 00:01:48.390 --> 00:02:02.310 Karen D'Attore: Along with our some of our board members and colleagues here an overview of the projects and background, as well as some information and eliminate information on the fiscal impacts of this on the school district, thank you very much. 12 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:12.450 Maddi Zachacz: Okay, thank you Karen good evening mayor members of the board i'm going to start sharing my screen now. 13 00:02:17.010 --> 00:02:18.900 Maddi Zachacz: Okay, can everyone see the presentation. 14 00:02:20.460 --> 00:02:29.340 Maddi Zachacz: Okay, great um so thank you again for joining us, we are going to start on a little bit differently than we have on prior presentations we know. 15 00:02:29.700 --> 00:02:37.050 Maddi Zachacz: Some folks are joining us for the first time, and you know, perhaps haven't been following along with the whole series so we're going to start by reviewing. 16 00:02:37.920 --> 00:02:47.700 Maddi Zachacz: The history of the site, as well as speaking a little bit about the origins of this proposed development, which was a request for qualifications released by the village back in 2019. 17 00:02:49.590 --> 00:03:02.250 Maddi Zachacz: So for those who aren't familiar with the site, this is a 3.4 acre group of parcels on the east side of the railroad tracks bounded by water street Main Street secret road and central avenue. 18 00:03:02.730 --> 00:03:09.540 Maddi Zachacz: The site is also traversed by the sing sing kill going from east to west the site was originally. 19 00:03:10.110 --> 00:03:24.360 Page 4 of 47 Maddi Zachacz: A coal, gas plant starting back in the 1800s and is now contaminated brownfield site so as a result of that contamination, the site is now subject to a consent order by the New York State Department of environmental conservation or DC. 20 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:39.900 Maddi Zachacz: which requires the con Edison participate and at least some level of remediation on the site, and you can see a close up of the site, this is Main Street coming down the hill here, and you can see this as the the bulk of the site with the kill coming through. 21 00:03:42.750 --> 00:03:55.140 Maddi Zachacz: So we also have an aerial site view that we'd like to share voice over by village engineer Paul freely currently the site is being used as a dp w lay down yard so Paul is going to take you through the site. 22 00:03:57.450 --> 00:03:58.440 30 water street. 23 00:04:06.300 --> 00:04:08.190 This 3.4 acre parcel. 24 00:04:10.260 --> 00:04:14.850 consisting of five separate tax parcels in the village of Boston. 25 00:04:16.170 --> 00:04:27.390 Is the former home of the villages dp w facility, it is now primarily used has a transfer facility for organic waste, seeing there at the right of the video. 26 00:04:28.440 --> 00:04:32.940 and other recyclable or materials used in dp w operations. 27 00:04:38.850 --> 00:04:43.050 It is bordered by water street on the western boundary. 28 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.190 Central avenue on a northern boundary. 29 00:04:51.570 --> 00:04:54.600 and lower Main Street on the southern boundary of the parcel. 30 Page 5 of 47 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:11.700 Once completed approximately one and a half acres of green space will remain on the eastern portion of the property connected to water street through a park being constructed along the Cobra trail. 31 00:05:16.200 --> 00:05:19.050 Extending up through the green portion of the parcel. 32 00:05:20.220 --> 00:05:29.310 On the eastern most portions to connect pedestrians to the villages river walk southern connection off of central avenue. 33 00:05:35.400 --> 00:05:36.990 Access to lower Main Street. 34 00:05:38.700 --> 00:05:42.690 As well as access to the villages kill brooke riverwalk. 35 00:05:47.520 --> 00:05:54.270 will be an asset this parcel offers in addition to the affordable and workforce housing component. 36 00:06:06.510 --> 00:06:07.980 Maddi Zachacz: Alright, thank you, Paul. 37 00:06:09.810 --> 00:06:23.310 Maddi Zachacz: So, now that we have some of the information about the site's history i'm going to hand it over to trustee Lopez, to speak about the original request for qualifications or rf Q that was released back in 2019. 38 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:36.060 Omar Lopez: Anybody so i've I request for qualifications was developed with a public input and created a clear set of goals aligned with the desires for the Community. 39 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:49.890 Omar Lopez: Rather than an rfp process that would yield ideas of what a developer thought would work best, so I think that one thing that I would underscore here is usually in a project like this, you would hear rfp that's a. 40 00:06:50.640 --> 00:07:00.690 Page 6 of 47 Omar Lopez: set of letters associated with projects like this, in which case we would be asking developers, what do you think should go here, but the village actually had a perspective about. 41 00:07:01.170 --> 00:07:12.570 Omar Lopez: What should I what this project should look like and we wanted to create affordable residential opportunities that would attract a variety of income levels to the village and all generations. 42 00:07:13.170 --> 00:07:22.320 Omar Lopez: We wanted to execute on a key policy strategy from the housing needs assessment in 2017 specifically to provide a deeper and broader level before durability. 43 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:29.100 Omar Lopez: Requirements for new housing development to ensure access to affordable housing by lower income households and. 44 00:07:29.310 --> 00:07:38.940 Omar Lopez: That support mixed income housing now this isn't exactly poetry it's a very long sentence with a lot of words, but basically what it's saying is we wanted to create housing opportunities for folks. 45 00:07:39.540 --> 00:07:57.180 Omar Lopez: That range, but particularly for those that were the at a really affordable levels, because without getting into a lot of that details, the definition of affordable is still outside that the REACH for a lot of folks in our Community, so we wanted to create options for them as well. 46 00:08:00.450 --> 00:08:03.630 Omar Lopez: So we also wanted to in the request for qualifications. 47 00:08:04.710 --> 00:08:11.850 Omar Lopez: provide a public amenity that facilitated a pedestrian connection between upper Main Street and station Plaza. 48 00:08:12.330 --> 00:08:23.580 Omar Lopez: We wanted to create public access along the sinks in kill and make a connection to the sinks in co greenway you saw some of that in the video, so we have connections to both Main Street, and to the cynical. 49 00:08:24.090 --> 00:08:29.520 Omar Lopez: greenway we wanted to encourage additional development in the area we just see so much potential. Page 7 of 47 50 00:08:30.030 --> 00:08:41.730 Omar Lopez: In our waterfront and in that area of the waterfront in particular that this could be an opportunity to really jumpstart I development in what is traditionally an African American Community here in ossining. 51 00:08:42.270 --> 00:08:51.810 Omar Lopez: We wanted to employ modern materials and sustainable practices we wanted it to be pedestrian friendly and create space for commercial opportunities, as well as Community programming. 52 00:08:54.180 --> 00:09:04.410 Maddi Zachacz: Okay, thank you kristy Lopez so harkening back to where we began our engagement series, we wanted to discuss why this is the site under consideration. 53 00:09:04.740 --> 00:09:12.900 Maddi Zachacz: As well as why it was determined that affordable housing would probably be the best use for the site so let's start with why here, why the site. 54 00:09:13.590 --> 00:09:18.660 Maddi Zachacz: So the site is in a key position to connect Main Street. 55 00:09:19.410 --> 00:09:28.410 Maddi Zachacz: And so, all of our downtown with our waterfront, but it also opens up some unique opportunities, such as access to the train station for transit oriented development. 56 00:09:28.710 --> 00:09:34.080 Maddi Zachacz: As well as unlocking more than an acre of green space that's currently inaccessible, although it's public property. 57 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:41.820 Maddi Zachacz: Coupled with the opportunity to clear up severely blighted site and all of this is going to be transformative for the station Plaza neighborhood. 58 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:55.830 Maddi Zachacz: Further, the village own site comes up again and again, and many of our Community planning documents as an underutilized resource and sort of cementing the idea that this collection of parcels will be key to revitalizing the section of our water. Page 8 of 47 59 00:09:57.180 --> 00:09:59.490 Maddi Zachacz: So, now that we have established why. 60 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.380 Maddi Zachacz: The site why affordable housing so. 61 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:16.080 Maddi Zachacz: We, the kind of question is why the village asked the developers who responded to the rfu to propose a mixed use all affordable housing development. 62 00:10:16.890 --> 00:10:25.830 Maddi Zachacz: The sites distance from major highways, as well as the layout of the site would make putting in big box retail which which some folks asked about and light and just really use. 63 00:10:26.220 --> 00:10:35.040 Maddi Zachacz: Either difficult or impossible so, then the development really hinges on the brownfield development or brownfield remediation rather. 64 00:10:35.400 --> 00:10:43.500 Maddi Zachacz: And so, at estimated cost of about four and a half million dollars using it as a park would not only cost the four and a half million dollars. 65 00:10:43.800 --> 00:10:52.560 Maddi Zachacz: To do the the full scale remediation but also probably an additional $500,000 or more to do landscaping to create the the physical part. 66 00:10:53.100 --> 00:11:00.030 Maddi Zachacz: Further once it was completed it would remain village property and will not generate any taxes upon having invested all that money. 67 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:10.620 Maddi Zachacz: So we think about different ways that we would be able to do that remediation enrolling the development in the New York state brownsville cleanup program the dtc is a viable solution. 68 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:22.470 Maddi Zachacz: It achieves the villages goal of a catalytic use that include site remediation public improvements, a mixed use building with Page 9 of 47 neighborhood retail Community space mixed income, housing and say parking. 69 00:11:23.160 --> 00:11:32.700 Maddi Zachacz: And then, when we considered well, what about market rate housing market rate housing would require much greater degree of density to pay for that remediation and the desired public improvements. 70 00:11:33.300 --> 00:11:42.210 Maddi Zachacz: Not to mention the fact that the village has demonstrated time and again, a significant need for more affordable housing and we'll talk about that a little bit later presentation. 71 00:11:47.310 --> 00:11:50.760 Maddi Zachacz: So now let's talk specifically about this proposed development. 72 00:11:51.300 --> 00:12:02.040 Maddi Zachacz: And the current proposal includes 109 residential units, as part of a mixed use building with retail amenities and Community space on the ground floor. 73 00:12:02.490 --> 00:12:09.390 Maddi Zachacz: All units will be affordable for a range of incomes between 30 and 80% of area median income or am I. 74 00:12:09.900 --> 00:12:22.800 Maddi Zachacz: The development also includes as you've heard now the extension of the sing sing killed greenway through the site down to water street, which is a pretty meaningful connection, because now we have water street or or waterfront connected to the Community Center. 75 00:12:24.390 --> 00:12:36.900 Maddi Zachacz: This is also considering a parking garage with potential for addition of parking for neighborhood use so a few stories devoted to the building itself, and then perhaps an additional layer for municipal parking. 76 00:12:38.700 --> 00:12:51.030 Maddi Zachacz: Here is a site overview that shows the greenway extension, you see here's the existing greenway and, and this will be the extension coming down to the site, as well as the proximity to the train station metro north. 77 00:12:54.870 --> 00:13:05.730 Page 10 of 47 Maddi Zachacz: So let's talk about affordability across the hundred and nine units that are proposed a range of affordability is being considered between 30% and 80% of Am I. 78 00:13:06.300 --> 00:13:17.280 Maddi Zachacz: So what is a mine, the area median income is determined on the federal level and is essentially the middle of the household income range in a region so here you'll see. 79 00:13:18.090 --> 00:13:31.410 Maddi Zachacz: The aim for westchester county and you'll see it split up by the size of household going from between one and six persons and household and the idea is that the units in a development such as this one should be affordable to households. 80 00:13:32.850 --> 00:13:41.850 Maddi Zachacz: At these various levels, with the standards for affordability being that household shouldn't have to pay more than 30% of their income towards housing expenses. 81 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:50.190 Maddi Zachacz: The bottom of the chart gives an idea of what potential rents in the building might be at a variety of levels, the bottom. 82 00:13:50.790 --> 00:14:01.920 Maddi Zachacz: For the high rent would be four households at about 30% of excuse me 60% of Am I well the low cost would be families at 50% of am I, or just below. 83 00:14:02.220 --> 00:14:09.990 Maddi Zachacz: Obviously, these are not you know rents that are set in stone, but just to give an idea of what am I would look like in real dollars for folks who are renting. 84 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:21.240 Maddi Zachacz: As far as the unit layout the current iteration proposes 109 units, as compared with 126 which was in the current proposal. 85 00:14:21.690 --> 00:14:28.980 Maddi Zachacz: But the units can certainly be flexible in bedroom counts and across income levels, subject to funding constraints, depending on. 86 00:14:29.940 --> 00:14:38.850 Page 11 of 47 Maddi Zachacz: What is required by those funding sources so you see this first rendering here is a view from water street So you see the building on the left hand side here. 87 00:14:39.150 --> 00:14:48.270 Maddi Zachacz: Is what's being contemplated as the parking garage and then over on the right hand side, it would obviously be housing units, as well as the retail component along water street. 88 00:14:51.810 --> 00:14:59.370 Maddi Zachacz: And you may remember from the flyover video seeing the very high rock walls towards the back of the site So you see how the site is sort of nestled. 89 00:14:59.790 --> 00:15:12.420 Maddi Zachacz: In into the rock, this is a view coming down Main Street, so if you're familiar, this is that little red house right at the top one mean and Nancy core split off So you can see how the building just sort of bad nestled into the rock face there. 90 00:15:19.260 --> 00:15:27.030 Maddi Zachacz: And finally, as I mentioned prior there is a demonstrated need for not only affordable, but for quality, affordable housing in the village of ossining. 91 00:15:27.330 --> 00:15:37.680 Maddi Zachacz: Going back to the 2017 housing needs assessment we see these figures of particular interest is the fact that over 59% of village of ossining renters. 92 00:15:37.980 --> 00:15:50.730 Maddi Zachacz: Are cost burden which means they're spending more than 30% of their income on housing costs of that 59% and additional 33 are spending more than 50% of their income on rent and. 93 00:15:52.080 --> 00:16:06.480 Maddi Zachacz: Building more affordable housing, particularly new and in quality construction will secure affordable units in waterfront neighborhood that is likely to see redevelopment in the coming years due to increase levels of interest in that neighborhood. 94 00:16:11.130 --> 00:16:17.520 Maddi Zachacz: So now we can talk about the commercial and Community space you'll hear about this a little bit more from one of my colleagues in just a few minutes. Page 12 of 47 95 00:16:17.880 --> 00:16:27.780 Maddi Zachacz: But the ground floor of the ground floor layout contemplates not only the amenities for the building, but also some ground floor retail space and a really exciting feature in the back here. 96 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:36.390 Maddi Zachacz: Which is about 4000 square feet of Community space which may be used as flexible space or distance learning for the Austin school district. 97 00:16:40.710 --> 00:16:49.500 Maddi Zachacz: they're also major public amenities planned, including the affirmation extension of the greenway increased access to the green space, which is at the back of the parcel. 98 00:16:49.920 --> 00:17:01.950 Maddi Zachacz: and consideration for the public elevator or stairway in order to connect Main Street down with the water street neighborhood and a parking structure for residents, which incorporates a layer for public parking as well. 99 00:17:07.800 --> 00:17:15.600 Maddi Zachacz: So when we discussed the added Community benefit that this proposal development would bring into us name, you can see delineated here the. 100 00:17:16.590 --> 00:17:24.870 Maddi Zachacz: The cost for many of these major site improvements, including, as I mentioned four and a half million dollars to remediate the brownfields condition. 101 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:30.660 Maddi Zachacz: About two and a half million dollars to extend the greenway and a little over a million and a half for municipal parking. 102 00:17:31.020 --> 00:17:39.750 Maddi Zachacz: Additionally, the development, as I mentioned earlier, is incorporating this roughly 4000 square feet of Community space that can be used as a learning space for students. 103 00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:49.080 Maddi Zachacz: All of this investment we're at in the absence of the developers investment would need to either come out of the pocket of us as taxpayers. Page 13 of 47 104 00:17:49.530 --> 00:17:56.880 Maddi Zachacz: Or would never materialized and I think we can all agree that that these are things that are going to be very important to our Community and things that folks would like to see. 105 00:17:57.930 --> 00:18:14.640 Maddi Zachacz: On that note, I am going to introduce Maxwell pow of buyer blender bell who is working with the wilder bolter team to develop this concept and Maxwell is going to go through the various site concepts and some greater detail so welcome Maxwell Thank you Mary. 106 00:18:15.690 --> 00:18:25.680 Maxwell Pau (BBB): hi everyone in Mexico i'm an architect urbanist here and a partner buyer bluebell you know, for us as architects our approach to design this to the site, specific and forward thinking. 107 00:18:26.280 --> 00:18:33.570 Maxwell Pau (BBB): we'd like to find opportunities within each site can design buildings that are authentic and built upon his potential strings so here in ossining. 108 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:42.810 Maxwell Pau (BBB): We were really immediately attracted to the potential in this site and the physical challenges that it poses you know, basically, what we saw in that video was you know pretty striking to us. 109 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:45.300 Maxwell Pau (BBB): We thought that there was a lot of good opportunities here. 110 00:18:45.660 --> 00:18:53.850 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So many people can advance to the first slide so this again, I think we just We saw this previously, but I wanted this kind of highlight a couple of things right. 111 00:18:54.180 --> 00:19:01.230 Maxwell Pau (BBB): First of all, from a planning perspective, you know the site really is a gateway or can be a gateway into the village from the waterfront and vice versa. 112 00:19:01.560 --> 00:19:08.010 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So it was important to kind of turn this currently closed off site into something much more porous and open to the public. 113 Page 14 of 47 00:19:08.670 --> 00:19:15.960 Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know that the site could really be viewed as an extension of the village where the people were people would be welcome to experience the canal way on the western end. 114 00:19:16.230 --> 00:19:22.290 Maxwell Pau (BBB): As well as experience in natural forested area to the east and connect back to the existing green, we thought that was really important. 115 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:33.660 Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, and the other aspect that we thought was important was that the design of the open space in the building we're not mutually exclusive, and in fact could actually reinforce each other, make them stronger. 116 00:19:34.170 --> 00:19:45.930 Maxwell Pau (BBB): As a spine, so this is the context that sort of drove our thinking in terms of we thought about the site and how we mass the buildings, how it relates to the open space and typography so let's go to the next slide. 117 00:19:47.580 --> 00:19:58.020 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So, in terms of the overall cycling is, this is a, this is a route plan you know all of the development is located on the western end of the site where the existing btw uses currently are. 118 00:19:58.710 --> 00:20:05.790 Maxwell Pau (BBB): staying away from the steep slope areas along Main Street, and also helping us preserve the natural landscape, to the east. 119 00:20:06.270 --> 00:20:14.640 Maxwell Pau (BBB): The goal was to keep as much existing open space as possible to maintain the natural quality of the site, while improving the heart scape on the western. 120 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:24.780 Maxwell Pau (BBB): End of the kill weather, so the canal wave currently is the building itself terraces up from water streets are up towards the East. 121 00:20:25.260 --> 00:20:35.160 Maxwell Pau (BBB): we're planning for one or two of those setbacks, to have a green roof, and the main group you kind of see their into the little rectangular boxes, you know we'll have solar panels installed on that main group. Page 15 of 47 122 00:20:36.270 --> 00:20:46.530 Maxwell Pau (BBB): On the other side of the kill is the garage and that he had mentioned so that will contain all the parking required for the residents, as well as for the public, going to the next slide. 123 00:20:47.790 --> 00:20:54.510 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So, again on the next slide, this is the ground floor plan again showing the two buildings, the garage on the Northern side of the scenes and kill. 124 00:20:54.750 --> 00:21:07.260 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And the residential building on the southern side and the intent here was the two buildings with flank St St kill and sort of reinforce that visual connection back towards the eastern end of the site. 125 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:14.790 Maxwell Pau (BBB): One of the things that this allows us to do is to allow the residential building to have a present the public frontage. 126 00:21:15.090 --> 00:21:21.720 Maxwell Pau (BBB): On to the kill which we thought was really important as a way to activate that phenomenon right, one of the things we didn't want to have. 127 00:21:22.110 --> 00:21:30.900 Maxwell Pau (BBB): A prominent that didn't have any activity on it sort of doesn't do a whole lot with the open space, so we did that by sort of reinforcing. 128 00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:44.190 Maxwell Pau (BBB): That phenomenon by placing the ground for uses quite strategically right so as you're coming off the water street, we have the retail position that that location that turns the corner up in towards the kill. 129 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:54.870 Maxwell Pau (BBB): The amenity and the lobby for the residential portion of the building front of the middle part of that building fronting the kill and then we strategically place the Community. 130 00:21:55.260 --> 00:22:07.140 Page 16 of 47 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Space towards the eastern end of the building that that was intentional because we wanted to bring the most public us as far into the site as possible sort of at the intersection of where the. 131 00:22:07.890 --> 00:22:13.770 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Things and kill canal way and and sort of natural landscape begins towards the East. 132 00:22:14.430 --> 00:22:21.210 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And also directly in front of the Community space we created a pedestrian bridge that connects you directly back to the parking garage. 133 00:22:21.510 --> 00:22:30.990 Maxwell Pau (BBB): On the other side, so that's sort of creative a nice circular walking network around the canal, which we thought would be a real benefit in front of the building. 134 00:22:32.100 --> 00:22:34.410 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So now is we're gonna take a short walk. 135 00:22:36.540 --> 00:22:45.390 Maxwell Pau (BBB): and get a sense of the open space concept and the connection back to the greenway extension, with a series of existing photos into the proposed views and just keep in mind, these are. 136 00:22:45.780 --> 00:22:52.890 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Early conceptual sketches but hopefully conveys the improvements that we're planning for the open space so let's start with the first view. 137 00:22:53.310 --> 00:22:56.970 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So this is the existing view if you're standing on the corner of water. 138 00:22:57.930 --> 00:23:14.760 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And in central avenue, looking back this side, so the existing dp w building is on the left the kill is actually right behind the metal fence back there, and you can see mainstream kind of in the in the background, there, so we updated that view going to the next slide. 139 00:23:15.810 --> 00:23:25.260 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Which are updated that new looking back towards the building, so the garage is on the left, the new newly built or sort of reinforced. Page 17 of 47 140 00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:40.620 Maxwell Pau (BBB): canal way is sort of between two buildings and then the residential building is on the right, with a very transparent ground floor with the retail fronting water streets are turning up into the now if we walk a little bit closer now. 141 00:23:42.510 --> 00:23:52.230 Maxwell Pau (BBB): On water street just before you enter the site, this is what it looks like the day the canal way is right behind the fence there you can kind of see that low wall that's. 142 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:58.530 Maxwell Pau (BBB): That masonry low wall that's there the navy w garage site is on the left and then sort of the big yard, is on the right. 143 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:08.250 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And the next slide kind of shows what this can start to look like right, so the idea here is that we would rebuild the prominence or the walking surface and we build. 144 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:16.290 Maxwell Pau (BBB): The walls for the canal because that's sort of falling apart right now that needs to be repaired, but the idea here is to really create an accessible. 145 00:24:16.890 --> 00:24:29.910 Maxwell Pau (BBB): access point from artistry straight into the site right and what we did here was also pull back the facade of the retail on the ground floor to kind of open up that entry way as you enter into the site, so you can get a sense of. 146 00:24:30.630 --> 00:24:38.400 Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know what you could what could feel it's a very inviting access and prominent around the way into the next slide. 147 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:48.810 Maxwell Pau (BBB): So the next slide kind of walks if we were to walk further along the prominent eastward, so the middle of the site, the canal was just on the left there and kind of capture a glimpse there. 148 00:24:49.260 --> 00:24:56.760 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And the next slide kind of shows what it might feel like if you're just sort of further along than that probably not so directly on the right would be the. Page 18 of 47 149 00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:05.130 Maxwell Pau (BBB): The entry into the residential building, which of course would be 24 seven, so we have active frontage on the canal at all times. 150 00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:12.330 Maxwell Pau (BBB): If you take care, and you look a little bit further just beyond the lobby and it's sort of a glass corner, that would be the Community space. 151 00:25:13.020 --> 00:25:22.440 Maxwell Pau (BBB): that's right on eastern and as the building directly across from that is the pedestrian bridge that goes over the the kill and connecting back to the garage on the left side. 152 00:25:22.770 --> 00:25:33.390 Maxwell Pau (BBB): And just sort of in the background, there you can kind of see between the train sort of that connection that new connection and extension to the existing greenway so we're going to the next slide. 153 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:40.470 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Now this is, if you were standing just beyond the Community space now looking into the natural landscape of the. 154 00:25:41.310 --> 00:25:48.300 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Eastern end of the site, you can see, the central avenue archway rights are supporting centrally, I mean right above it. 155 00:25:48.570 --> 00:25:57.720 Maxwell Pau (BBB): that's where the connection to the existing greenway would come through So this is the next slide shows that potential connection right, so you can see how that connection. 156 00:25:58.170 --> 00:26:07.890 Maxwell Pau (BBB): extends from the existing or ends, on the other side of central avenue connecting through under the arch and back onto the southern side of the canal way. 157 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:13.080 Maxwell Pau (BBB): In this proposed image here, so you know, for us, you know, I think. 158 00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:24.180 Page 19 of 47 Maxwell Pau (BBB): we're really excited about this, obviously, and we really think that the greenway extension to kill them, the proposed building configuration really forms a spine that ties the entire master plan together and reconnect stability to. 159 00:26:24.630 --> 00:26:32.370 Maxwell Pau (BBB): Its water for another pedestrian level, you know, providing one of the projects most important intangible Community benefits thanks. 160 00:26:34.290 --> 00:26:43.800 Maddi Zachacz: Okay, thank you Maxwell I am going to wrap up with the added Community benefit of talking about the anticipated pilot or payment in lieu of. 161 00:26:43.800 --> 00:26:44.490 taxes. 162 00:26:46.020 --> 00:26:51.540 Maddi Zachacz: So currently as we discussed the property is not on the tax rolls and doesn't generate any tax revenue. 163 00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:56.580 Maddi Zachacz: As an APP as an all affordable development, the revenue would be constrained by the rental. 164 00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:06.180 Maddi Zachacz: Even without a payment and move taxes, the estimated annual tax bill for the development as proposed would necessarily be lower than a similarly constructed market rates development. 165 00:27:06.990 --> 00:27:12.780 Maddi Zachacz: The proposed pilot is still under review and will require ongoing negotiation between the developer, and the village. 166 00:27:13.050 --> 00:27:24.090 Maddi Zachacz: But the final number is anticipated to be roughly 70% of what the developer would be paying if the property were fully tax, so the pilot would represent about 70% of that total tax bill. 167 00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:39.390 Maddi Zachacz: The pilot would also include a built in cost escalator to ensure that the annual payments to the village, the town and the school increased with a rate similar to or higher the consumer price index or CPI so right now, this looking at about two and a half percent. Page 20 of 47 168 00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:51.180 Maddi Zachacz: Regardless of the negotiated pilot amount each taxing entity would receive the same proportion of the pilot payment that they would under a fully tax development, so you can see, if you take a look here. 169 00:27:52.170 --> 00:28:00.690 Maddi Zachacz: let's say for the school district for the average village taxpayer, the school district taxes comprise about 63% of their property tax bill. 170 00:28:01.050 --> 00:28:13.230 Maddi Zachacz: And so, that means the school receives about 63% of that money, the same would be the same with the same would be true of the pilot so about 63% of the pilot revenue would also go to the school district over. 171 00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:25.440 Maddi Zachacz: The The interesting thing about this particular pilot is that because the property isn't currently on the tax roll the pilot payment to the school district actually adds money to their ad budget. 172 00:28:25.890 --> 00:28:39.360 Maddi Zachacz: Instead of in a typical situation where it would just redistribute the budget alone, a wider pool of taxpayers, this is actually adding that again roughly hundred and $44,000 a year to the school districts and budget. 173 00:28:44.940 --> 00:28:51.720 Maddi Zachacz: The pilot is anticipated to last for about 30 years aligning with the types of financing required for construction. 174 00:28:51.990 --> 00:28:57.090 Maddi Zachacz: The retail component of the building will not be subject, however, to the payment and move taxes agreement. 175 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:03.420 Maddi Zachacz: And then, once the 30 years have gone by the building will be added to the tax roll and treated like any other commercial property. 176 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:16.710 Maddi Zachacz: Where it's assessed based on its income and expenses and over the course of the 30 year pilot the school district is anticipated Page 21 of 47 to receive just under 6.4 million in annual payments, which is inclusive of the annual payment escalator. 177 00:29:21.750 --> 00:29:25.410 Maddi Zachacz: And finally let's talk about the projected generation of school aged children. 178 00:29:25.830 --> 00:29:33.360 Maddi Zachacz: When communities contemplate new residential development, there are two industry standard multipliers that are used to project the number school children. 179 00:29:33.810 --> 00:29:41.670 Maddi Zachacz: If you are familiar with the development world, you may be familiar with these names pumps and then also rutgers university and the multipliers. 180 00:29:42.330 --> 00:29:54.150 Maddi Zachacz: Are there there's a range and they're used based on not only the projected income levels of the residents who are expected to come and live in the building, but also on the mix of unit sizes or number of bedrooms. 181 00:29:56.280 --> 00:30:06.930 Maddi Zachacz: So, looking at two different alternatives for this development alternative one looks at the same number of one in three bedrooms with a majority falling on two bedrooms. 182 00:30:07.320 --> 00:30:16.140 Maddi Zachacz: Alternative number two still has a much higher weight on the two bedrooms but many fewer three bedrooms and so obviously more one bedroom units. 183 00:30:18.660 --> 00:30:30.780 Maddi Zachacz: When we apply the multipliers that I just spoke about to these two alternatives, we come up with how many schoolchildren, at the very low end and the very high end might be projected to be generated by this development. 184 00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:38.400 Maddi Zachacz: wilder bolter also has a an experienced based multiplier that that they included here. 185 00:30:38.790 --> 00:30:45.780 Page 22 of 47 Maddi Zachacz: which has to do with the developments that that they have you know built in and around westchester to sort of give a real world practical. 186 00:30:46.260 --> 00:30:55.170 Maddi Zachacz: multiplier to add into the mix so for alternative one, which again had the biggest number of two bedrooms but an even split between ones and three is. 187 00:30:55.530 --> 00:31:08.310 Maddi Zachacz: generated between 40 and 62 school aged children alternative number two which remember had many fewer three bedrooms generated between 29 and 49 school aged children. 188 00:31:14.490 --> 00:31:19.830 Maddi Zachacz: So that is the end of our presentation, I just want to quickly go through the project timeline. 189 00:31:20.370 --> 00:31:26.490 Maddi Zachacz: approval will require multiple steps, the first of which has already been completed, which is the selection of a preferred developer. 190 00:31:27.150 --> 00:31:32.820 Maddi Zachacz: Right now, the process that's ongoing is obviously Community engagement, like the session that you joined this evening. 191 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:45.510 Maddi Zachacz: As well as development of the ladder agreement land acquisition and disposition, as you can see, there are a couple steps still to come, after that, including the approval of the ladder secret secret process. 192 00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:53.160 Maddi Zachacz: reviewed by the EIC approval by the planning board a permit by the Board of Trustees and then implementation of the ladder. 193 00:31:54.210 --> 00:32:01.560 Maddi Zachacz: And after tonight we have but one left in this particular engagement series sure you'll be hearing from us again. 194 00:32:02.130 --> 00:32:16.020 Maddi Zachacz: The next one is scheduled for Thursday march 18 if you lived here you'd be home by now, which has to do with how one might apply Page 23 of 47 if they wanted to come and live in this development, so we look forward to seeing you on the 18th. 195 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.200 Maddi Zachacz: But until then we want to hear from you, so if you have any questions now would be the time. 196 00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:23.610 Maddi Zachacz: Additionally. 197 00:32:23.700 --> 00:32:27.420 Maddi Zachacz: If you are watching this on a recording or something occurs to you after the fact. 198 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:36.810 Maddi Zachacz: Please email the village trustees and the administration at this email address plan P Li N and village of ossining.org if you have any. 199 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:48.390 Maddi Zachacz: questions that you think we might be able to answer, we also have a question and answer document on the village of ossining website, and you can also access that through ossining dp w site COM. 200 00:32:49.410 --> 00:32:54.690 Maddi Zachacz: And with that I will turn it back to village manager Karen dettori Thank you. 201 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.280 Karen D'Attore: hi so if, thank you for that. 202 00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:20.370 Karen D'Attore: maddie great job explaining everything, and thank you Maxwell and Omar as well, if you have questions you are here, we have about 14 people in attendance, please use a little raise your hand icon and and let us know, and we will bring you over so that you can ask your questions. 203 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.330 Karen D'Attore: So Miguel Hernandez. 204 00:33:26.340 --> 00:33:31.710 Jaimie Hoffman: Miguel i'll be bringing you over now if you just hang tight and then unmute when you come over. Page 24 of 47 205 00:33:36.390 --> 00:33:37.140 Jaimie Hoffman: We go you're here. 206 00:33:37.710 --> 00:33:38.790 Miguel Hern?ndez: The last time. 207 00:33:40.770 --> 00:33:44.520 Miguel Hern?ndez: The Mayor spoke about the possibility of a. 208 00:33:45.600 --> 00:34:10.410 Miguel Hern?ndez: solar panels on the garage or on the bill, I believe it was the garage building and I think that's an excellent idea, I personally have been pushing for arm couldn't structure of a of those panels, also at the train station, but we won't get into that now so i'd like to at least. 209 00:34:11.700 --> 00:34:21.960 Miguel Hern?ndez: Make sure that that idea is put into the mix i'd like to introduce another idea. 210 00:34:23.160 --> 00:34:23.790 Miguel Hern?ndez: um. 211 00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:31.230 Miguel Hern?ndez: This site historically was all before even the. 212 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:40.530 Miguel Hern?ndez: The coal plant was there also had a a a mill that produced. 213 00:34:41.580 --> 00:34:44.670 Miguel Hern?ndez: That was used for crushing. 214 00:34:46.560 --> 00:35:09.900 Miguel Hern?ndez: grain and and other products, I would like to discuss not in any depth, but the inclusion in the sight of a replica a waterwheel at this site, I do have some I don't have it now, but I do have some drawings it's a very inexpensive. 215 00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:19.020 Miguel Hern?ndez: proposition, but we can have one there that would add some historical interest. Page 25 of 47 216 00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:36.240 Miguel Hern?ndez: To this site with some kind of explanation as to what the site was used for back in in the 19th century, so that's all I have to contribute at this point, thank you very much. 217 00:35:38.040 --> 00:35:41.850 Rika Levin: Thanks Miguel i'm bringing that history part. 218 00:35:42.870 --> 00:35:55.800 Rika Levin: loving it I see Karen dettori smiling I think it's you know we're going to add it to the list that's what the public engagement is words it's a lovely idea differentiates villages from. 219 00:35:57.210 --> 00:36:00.960 Rika Levin: Cities and adds historical context thanks for the contrary. 220 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:17.340 Miguel Hern?ndez: I okay i'd like to at least submit a drawing or a photograph of what this water will would look like, if you know tell me how I can do that i'd be i'd be happy to pass it on to do. 221 00:36:17.670 --> 00:36:29.160 Karen D'Attore: You can you can certainly email it to to us, you can email it to my office or you know if it's something that you have hard copy will arrange to get it from you, Miguel, I. 222 00:36:29.550 --> 00:36:36.690 Karen D'Attore: Believe Paul wanted to speak to you about some of your other parts of your question, and then we can talk to you about some of the other green components of the. 223 00:36:37.710 --> 00:36:39.300 Karen D'Attore: Building to okay. 224 00:36:39.600 --> 00:36:40.080 Miguel Hern?ndez: Thank you. 225 00:36:40.680 --> 00:36:41.220 Paul Fraioli: i'm ago. 226 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:58.050 Page 26 of 47 Paul Fraioli: So I do remember your original presentation to another board way back when about the water wheel concept, I think it was, maybe, something that was being discussed, in conjunction with the recreation Center expansion, when we did an editorial edition. 227 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.950 Paul Fraioli: Right yeah cool concept and, as you know, up near the. 228 00:37:04.260 --> 00:37:08.010 Paul Fraioli: caputo Center parking lot there there used to be the. 229 00:37:09.150 --> 00:37:12.180 Paul Fraioli: filing corporation, to have the actual water will hear. 230 00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:21.780 Paul Fraioli: The going back to your other recommendation of finding last last time you were on one of these, you mentioned the grinding stones. 231 00:37:22.080 --> 00:37:32.340 Paul Fraioli: Right and we're going to we are going to make a effort to get that one that sits outside the computer Center down the cliff there we're going to see if we can maybe. 232 00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:42.270 Paul Fraioli: Bring that up somehow and and kind of handed off to bill and his team to see how they can incorporate it into some type of. 233 00:37:43.470 --> 00:37:47.730 Paul Fraioli: position on their site plan there so we'll see that's that's to be determined. 234 00:37:48.150 --> 00:37:50.220 Paul Fraioli: i'm one comment on your solar. 235 00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:07.530 Paul Fraioli: components, yes I think that's a good idea, and speaking of the lot across the street and the rest of the lot that was one of three areas that the village submitted about it i'm going to say about a year ago now, maybe a year and a half ago to the. 236 00:38:08.580 --> 00:38:12.780 Paul Fraioli: To westchester county who's taking requested. 237 Page 27 of 47 00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:20.820 Paul Fraioli: Potential sites and making them part of a solar consortium so we're still waiting to hear back on what sites are accepted, and what are not. 238 00:38:21.450 --> 00:38:37.230 Paul Fraioli: But I think out of the three that we sent down that being a to to roof sheds and then an open structure, I think this would have the most collateral benefit in addition to the solar benefit and it's it seems i'm i'm hoping that it's a. 239 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:50.760 Paul Fraioli: embraced by the county consortium as well, so that's that's something that's to be determined as far as solar panels, on top of the upper level of the structure to be constructed as part of this site. 240 00:38:52.080 --> 00:39:01.860 Paul Fraioli: I don't think anybody wants to commit to that yet i'm not even sure if it's going to get the southern exposure necessary with the building on South of the parking lot. 241 00:39:02.490 --> 00:39:11.790 Paul Fraioli: But i'm that that's something that because certainly discuss when they when they develop their plans a little further along and we start talking about the building permit for both structures. 242 00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:14.160 Paul Fraioli: It was it Thank you. 243 00:39:14.460 --> 00:39:15.090 Thank you. 244 00:39:20.010 --> 00:39:23.550 Karen D'Attore: Okay, thank you um do we have any other questions. 245 00:39:27.630 --> 00:39:31.410 Karen D'Attore: You can raise your raise your hand and with a little raise your hand. 246 00:39:31.410 --> 00:39:32.010 icon. 247 00:39:34.290 --> 00:39:36.240 Karen D'Attore: Okay, Bob schloss. Page 28 of 47 248 00:39:37.980 --> 00:39:39.930 Jaimie Hoffman: Mr slow so i'm going to bring you over now. 249 00:39:41.010 --> 00:39:43.680 Jaimie Hoffman: If you can unmute that would be great Thank you. 250 00:39:44.700 --> 00:39:45.120 Bob Schloss: Thank you. 251 00:39:45.270 --> 00:39:48.270 Bob Schloss: hi this is Emily fact i'm married to Bob slough. 252 00:39:48.810 --> 00:39:49.500 It is free. 253 00:39:50.520 --> 00:39:51.810 Karen D'Attore: Okay sorry about that. 254 00:39:52.230 --> 00:40:06.810 Bob Schloss: How would you know anyway so here's my question, since this project is down by the river, maybe one foot above sea level I don't maybe it's too, but since we know that sea level rise is coming. 255 00:40:09.030 --> 00:40:11.610 Bob Schloss: How are you projecting for that, and how are you. 256 00:40:13.620 --> 00:40:17.160 Bob Schloss: what's, what is your plan for dealing with that um. 257 00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:29.970 Karen D'Attore: We are so glad that you asked this we actually have a presentation that was done previously, that you can find on our YouTube channel that really speaks specifically about the plans for this. 258 00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:43.650 Karen D'Attore: issue, but I think we can talk to you and give you a good good indication of what we're doing right now, and probably I think bill that's probably best for you to take about the work that you're doing to make sure that this is. 259 00:40:44.100 --> 00:40:44.820 Page 29 of 47 Karen D'Attore: The building. 260 00:40:47.970 --> 00:40:57.060 Bill Balter: Thank you for the question so when we started on this, which was a while ago we had a design for the building that look very similar what you're seeing now. 261 00:40:57.540 --> 00:41:12.210 Bill Balter: But then, as we've moved along and looked at sea level rise and the projections, the new fema mapping resulted in us basically changing I designed to raise our improvements, so that we're really are dealing with. 262 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:24.240 Bill Balter: The foreseeable sea level rise, so now the building is being built in a way, where we're not thinking about it for the next five or 10 or 20 years but for much longer distance than that. 263 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:34.200 Bill Balter: there's a lot of green elements in the building, but ultimately i'd say it's gonna be a leed gold bill it's gonna have a lot of features that are exciting people but. 264 00:41:35.310 --> 00:41:35.910 Bill Balter: For most. 265 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:39.480 Bob Schloss: that's your question. 266 00:41:40.620 --> 00:41:49.830 Bob Schloss: So here's my question how would somebody in a wheelchair get into that space 35 years from now everyone's the Community rooms. 267 00:41:50.850 --> 00:41:53.910 Bill Balter: The bill, the entire site. 268 00:41:55.080 --> 00:42:08.460 Bill Balter: As its as mashable went through is an elevation on completion, that is not affected by 30 or 35 years of cielo Ross just to correct one thing that you said because it's. 269 00:42:08.970 --> 00:42:17.520 Bill Balter: It is very confusing we think of like the Ginsburg site that site was roughly five or six or seven feet lower than this site is. Page 30 of 47 270 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:32.730 Bill Balter: Once you go over water street the site is actually higher than the site, on the other side of the street and when, if you were to look at the elevation of the water and the syncing kill right now it's much lower than the elevation that we're building a building. 271 00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:35.910 Bob Schloss: got it Thank you. 272 00:42:39.780 --> 00:42:41.040 Karen D'Attore: Okay um. 273 00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:49.290 Karen D'Attore: Any additional questions I do see that Miguel Hernandez has his hand up as I get so. 274 00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:51.120 Jaimie Hoffman: When I bring. 275 00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:51.900 Karen D'Attore: Over Miguel. 276 00:42:52.200 --> 00:42:53.730 Jaimie Hoffman: Do you want to pick up from a Gala away. 277 00:42:54.420 --> 00:42:57.870 Karen D'Attore: Oh, I see maybe that was that was just a residual hand up. 278 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:00.480 Karen D'Attore: cheryl i'm. 279 00:43:01.830 --> 00:43:05.520 Karen D'Attore: near house and I hope I pronounced that right, I apologize if I didn't so. 280 00:43:06.450 --> 00:43:10.590 Jaimie Hoffman: to share i'll bring you, for now, if you can unmute that'd be great Thank you. 281 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.690 Page 31 of 47 Jaimie Hoffman: This near host Thank you. 282 00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:16.950 Hello. 283 00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:21.150 Cheryl Niarhos: hi hi this is NICO neurosis Charles how are you. 284 00:43:21.810 --> 00:43:22.410 Jaimie Hoffman: winning today. 285 00:43:22.620 --> 00:43:23.310 Karen D'Attore: i'm not gonna say any. 286 00:43:25.140 --> 00:43:26.340 Karen D'Attore: way of knowing things really. 287 00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:27.270 Karen D'Attore: are so. 288 00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:35.160 Cheryl Niarhos: So um no, it seems like a very exciting project where we're excited for the development of this i'm set a couple of general questions. 289 00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:46.410 Cheryl Niarhos: One regarding the retail space i'm just wondering is, are we going to be selected as to what goes in. 290 00:43:47.430 --> 00:44:00.750 Cheryl Niarhos: Meaning will we, as a town bring in something that's a little bit more say hi and then maybe the first person that comes around with the least check for the for the landlord is my first question. 291 00:44:02.010 --> 00:44:03.930 Cheryl Niarhos: The other question I have is. 292 00:44:04.980 --> 00:44:22.680 Cheryl Niarhos: mainstream um you had mentioned that red building that is on Main Street that seems to be a little bit sort of dilapidated and based on where it's located on the blueprints is there any kind of risk for mudslides or anything like that, based on where it is. Page 32 of 47 293 00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:37.410 Karen D'Attore: Okay, so let's you know I think we'll talk about your questions and sequence so we'll talk about the ideas for retail First, we have the developer. 294 00:44:39.210 --> 00:44:52.410 Karen D'Attore: has some ideas on that and bill why don't you talk about some of the converse you know some of our earlier conversations on making sure that we have a really nice fit of retail here that complements the the building itself, as well as our Community. 295 00:44:53.730 --> 00:45:01.800 Bill Balter: Right, so I think the idea of the retail and, especially, given this location work front for the street and it turns the corner into our site. 296 00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:09.120 Bill Balter: The idea of the retells that retail that will bring people into the site it's a really big what's called neighborhood commercial it's. 297 00:45:09.750 --> 00:45:28.260 Bill Balter: i've envisioned that will certainly would want to have a use that's active a lot of the time you know, hopefully morning lunch and dinner time, so we have an activated space, the tenants, I could imagine a food use being there it's about spending in the final. 298 00:45:29.490 --> 00:45:36.000 Bill Balter: amount of space it's somewhere between three and 4000 feet so it's not a huge user I could be restaurant, it could be. 299 00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:48.180 Bill Balter: Used like that our hope is to find someone local already operating a business and last name that you know sort of has a following and would want to be interested in this site. 300 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:56.820 Bill Balter: And so yeah I think that's it's really not an economic thing for us it's the idea of it is to make it a better project. 301 00:45:59.370 --> 00:46:09.210 Karen D'Attore: Thank you, Bill i'm Paul perhaps you can talk about the surrounding area and any any risks associated with with buildings above the site. Page 33 of 47 302 00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:14.640 Paul Fraioli: So I know that I know the red building you're referring to. 303 00:46:17.070 --> 00:46:22.410 Paul Fraioli: I know it's changed owners ship in the last couple of years, and I believe it's um. 304 00:46:24.600 --> 00:46:30.060 Paul Fraioli: it's in some concept ideas to develop itself but they're not going to be done. 305 00:46:31.350 --> 00:46:40.650 Paul Fraioli: In a box there'll be done relative to everything going on around that just as any work that gets proposed by this project that might. 306 00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:46.410 Paul Fraioli: encroach on that parcel will be reviewed appropriately by. 307 00:46:47.700 --> 00:46:51.120 Paul Fraioli: Our PR consultants are in House to see if there's any. 308 00:46:52.680 --> 00:46:59.700 Paul Fraioli: Potential dangerous condition that can be created by the construction and and we don't want to leave that when the construction is done for the. 309 00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:08.550 Paul Fraioli: For the residents and the occupants so that's all something will review when they when they start taking these concepts now and bring them into construction documents. 310 00:47:09.120 --> 00:47:20.130 Paul Fraioli: On both ends when that red building gets either refurbished and or replaced and when this building prior to this building getting a building permit. 311 00:47:24.120 --> 00:47:25.680 Rika Levin: If I can just add. 312 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.320 Rika Levin: My thought here as well. Page 34 of 47 313 00:47:30.390 --> 00:47:47.850 Rika Levin: it's hard to tell from the picture, but in other sessions, the question came about how far onto the cliff this development will actually reach it doesn't actually touch the cliff I understand the question because anytime you do construction things move. 314 00:47:50.040 --> 00:48:05.190 Rika Levin: So I get the question, but I just want make sure people on this session also understand that the way this building is built, it will not actually touch that site cliff that you see where you do see houses on top, and I think that's come up a number of times. 315 00:48:06.600 --> 00:48:13.530 Rika Levin: Just to assure you of that the retail space, the Community space, these are proposals their drawings there read. 316 00:48:13.950 --> 00:48:30.990 Rika Levin: The rings they're all sorts of things and for those of us who have seen other developers work they sometimes look very much like the pictures, you see, at this point, and sometimes they don't look anything like what you see first, the important thing to remember here is that this is a. 317 00:48:32.460 --> 00:48:42.540 Rika Levin: it's, not a single developer doing all this yes it's a developer that's managing it, but this is going to be watched by the state by our village. 318 00:48:43.620 --> 00:48:50.760 Rika Levin: it's not a private developer sort of going forward there are going to be a lot of eyes on this on the retail space, the Community space. 319 00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:59.340 Rika Levin: is something that has come up actually out of some of these public sessions have gotten questions of how. 320 00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:10.800 Rika Levin: Some of our local businesses can reach out who's really going to be managing it well, the management company for 99 years is actually going to be Mr Walter and the group that is managing this. 321 00:49:11.790 --> 00:49:16.140 Rika Levin: Which is much longer than you usually get on these developments, but. Page 35 of 47 322 00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:26.520 Rika Levin: People who are interested in retail stores, this would be not a bad time to start bringing that forward and ask the questions if you're interested in an opening a business down the road. 323 00:49:27.150 --> 00:49:36.930 Rika Levin: Whether you currently have one in our village or you want to expand, but the management company will not be the village village is actually turning this property over. 324 00:49:37.770 --> 00:49:47.880 Rika Levin: To what the board last year felt unanimously, and this year feels unanimously is a better use of the property, then as it currently exists. 325 00:49:48.480 --> 00:50:02.160 Rika Levin: And so that I just wanted to sort of put a little framing around that and also do a little shout out for people who want open businesses and want to look at that space that you know it's never too early to start those conversations. 326 00:50:04.020 --> 00:50:13.080 Rika Levin: With Mr balter or let the village manager know so that you get a closer look at what's available for future. 327 00:50:17.130 --> 00:50:17.610 Rika Levin: Thanks. 328 00:50:20.850 --> 00:50:21.330 OK. 329 00:50:23.160 --> 00:50:23.880 Karen D'Attore: We have. 330 00:50:26.520 --> 00:50:32.760 Karen D'Attore: Another person we have Marianne cerise or somebody using Marianne services name. 331 00:50:34.470 --> 00:50:37.440 Jaimie Hoffman: Marianne I will bring you over and see if it you. 332 00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:40.950 Page 36 of 47 Jaimie Hoffman: Can you can you. 333 00:50:41.310 --> 00:50:42.270 Maryann Sorese: know me. 334 00:50:45.870 --> 00:50:59.160 Maryann Sorese: Actually match with my email address first off, I just want to say it's really exciting to see this presentation i've enabled to participate in the first one that was on site and also to see the ones. 335 00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:09.660 Maryann Sorese: The recordings and then the other zoom calls I participated over the last few years in a number of Community based. 336 00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:21.990 Maryann Sorese: kind of dreaming sessions, and I can see in this proposal, you know efforts to try to address those those dreams from the Community so i'm glad to see them. 337 00:51:22.560 --> 00:51:39.990 Maryann Sorese: My question, it was very helpful to see the data that was presented about projections of student enrollment growth, they wondering if the board could just share has there been any feedback from the school district or the school administration in light of that data. 338 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.610 Maryann Sorese: That would help to inform the Community. 339 00:51:46.050 --> 00:51:53.130 Karen D'Attore: I will direct that to the school administration, who is present on this call, Dr Sanchez perhaps you'd like to speak to that. 340 00:51:55.110 --> 00:52:06.270 Ray Sanchez: yeah sure, good evening everybody we've been in communication with Karen and the team and trying to assess what the potential impact is going to be for the schools. 341 00:52:08.460 --> 00:52:21.660 Ray Sanchez: So I think the more direct question answer to your question is yes we've been in communication, and at the same time, eventually, will work with our demographer to see what the long term impact will be for overall enrollment for the schools. 342 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.740 Page 37 of 47 Ray Sanchez: When the project is solidified in the final plans are set. 343 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:33.090 Karen D'Attore: Thank you. 344 00:52:35.490 --> 00:52:37.440 Karen D'Attore: Marion do you have any other questions. 345 00:52:39.390 --> 00:52:49.590 Maryann Sorese: it's not a question, but again just an affirmation to see the numbers of affordable housing units that are being proposed and really being affordable units. 346 00:52:50.250 --> 00:53:00.210 Maryann Sorese: That are at a you know, a broad range of income levels is, you know as a village resident and a homeowner i'm very excited to see those as well. 347 00:53:01.080 --> 00:53:08.520 Maryann Sorese: I guess one other additional question, I think I know what the answer is, but it's good to hear it from the board and stuff is. 348 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:17.100 Maryann Sorese: You know what can you explain a little bit of the process that you know if this proposal goes forward what the processes for. 349 00:53:17.910 --> 00:53:32.820 Maryann Sorese: You know a lot of system or leasing up the facility I recognize that it would have not be allowed to be restricted exclusively to ossining, but could you speak to that process, a little bit more. 350 00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:44.220 Karen D'Attore: Sure, it would not be a big because of the nature of the project and provided reasons including fair housing law, it would not be. 351 00:53:45.120 --> 00:54:02.040 Karen D'Attore: restricted, however, other than by income but it and it would be subject to a lottery, it would be subject to a lottery, and we would be complying with the marketing requirements that are attached to this, the subsidies. 352 00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:07.170 Karen D'Attore: That are supporting this project, but we would also be promoting this. Page 38 of 47 353 00:54:08.250 --> 00:54:16.590 Karen D'Attore: amongst our our residents, as well as as employees of the school district and other organizations who are maybe challenged. 354 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:34.500 Karen D'Attore: In our in our county need to find an affordable place to live i'm going to defer to Mr Walter to because he has run you know he has actually built several of these projects, and they are now successfully least up, so I think he can talk a little bit as well to add some more detail. 355 00:54:36.450 --> 00:54:41.460 Bill Balter: did a good job there's a there's a requirement for an affirmative fair. 356 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:52.890 Bill Balter: affirmative marketing plan that basically says we advertise far and wide but, in our experience, having built about 3000 of these apartments and the. 357 00:54:53.580 --> 00:55:02.400 Bill Balter: New York metro area people generally want to live close to where they have a connection so while that people can live. 358 00:55:02.910 --> 00:55:07.950 Bill Balter: can come from anywhere and live your faith and meet the income requirements you'll end up with a lot of people who. 359 00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:12.060 Bill Balter: You know already live in Austin lived in ossining have kids who live in Austin. 360 00:55:12.870 --> 00:55:17.850 Bill Balter: Parents last thing they may work in the school district, they may work somewhere else, maybe they're in croton. 361 00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:25.920 Bill Balter: But you're going to get a lot of people, and I think the best evidence of that I can tell you, we looked at one we actually look this week, and one of our developments. 362 00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:43.350 Page 39 of 47 Bill Balter: In a town of cortland on montrose actually, which is a 92 units of element, and there we have actually 10 people whose last address before living there was ossining that's an example of where in a different town if people wanted to a couple of towns away. 363 00:55:44.640 --> 00:55:50.940 Bill Balter: wanted to probably want to stay in Austin but there wasn't something there for them at the time they live in this development. 364 00:55:51.330 --> 00:56:02.010 Bill Balter: So I think there's a combination of you're going to get a lot of local people live here, and I think that by building these developments around westchester you end up meeting the broader need for Austin residents and other residents. 365 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:05.160 Maryann Sorese: Okay, thank you very much. 366 00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:10.230 Karen D'Attore: Okay, thank you. 367 00:56:12.420 --> 00:56:16.470 Karen D'Attore: I see a name marissa Crusoe his hands up. 368 00:56:18.510 --> 00:56:19.830 Jaimie Hoffman: So i'm gonna bring you over now. 369 00:56:20.940 --> 00:56:23.040 Jaimie Hoffman: amorous if you can unmute that'd be great. 370 00:56:23.070 --> 00:56:23.490 Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you. 371 00:56:24.060 --> 00:56:35.280 Marisa Caruso: Great Thank you good evening, and thanks again for these presentations I find them very helpful Mike I tuned in a little late in my question, I saw that there were two alternatives. 372 00:56:36.060 --> 00:56:48.330 Marisa Caruso: that were presented and they had a different generation of school children and each one and I guess, I just wanted an understanding of what the benefit of one over the other other than the obvious because of. Page 40 of 47 373 00:56:48.810 --> 00:56:57.960 Marisa Caruso: When you consider ossining schools, it would be better to have, I think, a development that generates less school children, but are there benefits to the first alternative. 374 00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:04.830 Marisa Caruso: And if you could just speak to clarifying the difference between the two, and what the considerations are. 375 00:57:05.220 --> 00:57:22.860 Karen D'Attore: Sure um you know we know the needs in the Community, and we know, because we have an ossining house housing voucher program, there are three bedroom unit in in the village bossing are virtually non existent, so there is a need, so again. 376 00:57:24.060 --> 00:57:32.730 Karen D'Attore: There is a need a demonstrated need for affordable three bedrooms when you get to a three bedroom unit you're often talking about a pretty high rent. 377 00:57:33.810 --> 00:57:46.500 Karen D'Attore: That sometimes rivals mortgage have a fairly well priced home, however there's also a need for you know, so we have a need for family housing, we also have a documented need for. 378 00:57:47.190 --> 00:57:58.560 Karen D'Attore: Senior housing and so there's there's really probably justification for either housing mix and we have talked to. 379 00:57:58.980 --> 00:58:09.780 Karen D'Attore: New York state homes and Community renewal about this there wouldn't need to be a market analysis done to to really document the need, but we know here in ossining that. 380 00:58:10.650 --> 00:58:20.730 Karen D'Attore: We can well support the smaller unit mix, you know with less three bedrooms and potentially the larger one as well. 381 00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:27.060 Karen D'Attore: We, the reason that we have those two is, we are very sensitive to the school district. 382 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:37.320 Page 41 of 47 Karen D'Attore: And the fact that that a project like this tends to yield a higher number of schoolchildren than a market rate building so those would also be factoring in and again. 383 00:58:38.310 --> 00:58:53.790 Karen D'Attore: i'm going to refer to the developer, to talk about how those requirements plan when we're we're looking at the state for subsidies and how really it's definitely been demonstrated need is is a big driver for. 384 00:58:54.060 --> 00:59:10.170 Bill Balter: So I think what's important to understand is that we responded to the villages our cue that sort of set forth a bunch of parameters, we wanted to have something we responded, which was more than a year ago that we were strongly believe the state and county would fund. 385 00:59:11.310 --> 00:59:25.920 Bill Balter: Since that time, because of the sensitivity of the schools on Friday and and what we propose first was the alternative one with more three bedrooms when, in response to the projected school aged children. 386 00:59:27.270 --> 00:59:36.000 Bill Balter: conversation we got in touch with the state the village in House had to call it the state to see if they would entertain us reducing the number of three bedrooms. 387 00:59:36.450 --> 00:59:46.680 Bill Balter: And a Karen said they basically said, do what market study demonstrate to us that there's a need for more ones, unless threes or, if you do. 388 00:59:46.710 --> 00:59:51.960 Bill Balter: That many ones, make sure there's you can demonstrate a need, you know, last thing we won't have any problem, demonstrating that needs. 389 00:59:52.290 --> 01:00:01.800 Bill Balter: And we're in the process right now of doing the market study that the State requested so ultimately will show it to the State get them to bless that concept and if that's what the village once. 390 01:00:02.370 --> 01:00:11.370 Bill Balter: The school district was that would be the direction that we're headed, I mean they're obviously are advantages to three bedrooms because of me, but that has to be offset against. Page 42 of 47 391 01:00:12.330 --> 01:00:24.240 Bill Balter: The potential for kids, so I think we're agnostic on it, but I think we need to make sure that what we propose can be funded by will be funded by westchester county New York state I think we're on our way to getting there. 392 01:00:26.370 --> 01:00:44.790 Rika Levin: I just like to add, I think you were say you hit the nail on the head, I mean, to put it plainly it's about the schools, I mean they were to enter to growing populations and not just in ossining but in westchester county and the data shows this over and over one is. 393 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:47.790 Rika Levin: Immigration, the growth of. 394 01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:58.410 Rika Levin: Immigrants and he for housing, but the second one is seniors aging in place, and I think after this pandemic we're going to realize the importance of people. 395 01:00:58.950 --> 01:01:08.610 Rika Levin: of a certain age were aging in place needing housing near their families that became apparent during the pandemic, even more so than what we saw before, so I think in the ladder. 396 01:01:09.270 --> 01:01:14.070 Rika Levin: So you're balancing On one hand it's all about the schools and the number of children, we have. 397 01:01:15.030 --> 01:01:19.860 Rika Levin: Housing you should be also have overcrowding issues and are saying, not all communities have overcrowding issues. 398 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:32.820 Rika Levin: So I think this is where the developer, the staff listen carefully to public engagement meetings like this, look at the studies, when we could we're not going to solve all the problems, but I think. 399 01:01:34.230 --> 01:01:44.010 Rika Levin: For some of the seniors and I think that will actually get you more people from ossining and some of the local communities and solve some of those issues on. 400 01:01:44.700 --> 01:02:01.320 Page 43 of 47 Rika Levin: The model that has fewer three bedrooms greater one and two bedrooms is, in my opinion, anyway i'm the way to go, and I appreciate that developer went through the steps that they need to because this is a big part of this is public financing. 401 01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:06.330 Rika Levin: But it's number one the schools and number two the seniors To put it plainly. 402 01:02:08.310 --> 01:02:09.570 Rika Levin: Thank you for bringing it up. 403 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:25.260 Marisa Caruso: Thank you, I appreciate that clarification I do agree, I think that you know I like this project, I think I think there's a need, but I also think, making the neat critical needs of ossining a priority, while we're considering this is. 404 01:02:26.460 --> 01:02:30.930 Marisa Caruso: Definitely, something that we need to do so, I appreciate the clarification, thank you. 405 01:02:34.500 --> 01:02:38.070 Karen D'Attore: Thank you, Miss caruso do we have anybody else. 406 01:02:41.610 --> 01:02:45.810 Karen D'Attore: feel free to ask a question, where we're happy to answer questions. 407 01:02:49.590 --> 01:02:56.190 Karen D'Attore: I see Mr Hernandez his hand is up so Jamie can you bring him over. 408 01:02:56.970 --> 01:03:01.260 Jaimie Hoffman: Absolutely Miguel, you are over here now, if you can unmute that would be great Thank you. 409 01:03:01.770 --> 01:03:12.540 Miguel Hern?ndez: Thank you, what is the plan going forward when is this project going to the planning board and all of the other village boards. 410 01:03:13.770 --> 01:03:19.590 Miguel Hern?ndez: That would be involved in this, in other words what, generally speaking, what is the projected timeline. Page 44 of 47 411 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:22.140 Miguel Hern?ndez: For this project. 412 01:03:24.540 --> 01:03:41.970 Karen D'Attore: Okay i'm going to ask Stewart to answer that probably in better detail than I can our planner was has a db a meeting tonight, but Sir Maybe you can take them give an idea we have a lot of steps to go before we get to that point, but I don't want to miss speak. 413 01:03:42.600 --> 01:03:44.850 Stuart Kahan: No that's fine Thank you Miguel, good evening. 414 01:03:46.530 --> 01:03:49.650 Stuart Kahan: we're not on any planning board agenda at this point so it's. 415 01:03:49.650 --> 01:03:53.070 Stuart Kahan: Not it's not there, it has not been put on the agenda, yet. 416 01:03:54.480 --> 01:04:02.940 Stuart Kahan: i'm not able to really give you a specific ideas to when that's going to happen, it will require obviously. 417 01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:09.840 Stuart Kahan: The Board that it goes before you know someone will declare themselves as lead agency, and then we get it obviously into. 418 01:04:10.230 --> 01:04:20.130 Stuart Kahan: What what the nature of whatever the secret review is going to be that's the state environmental quality review act for those people not come up with the acronym but. 419 01:04:21.420 --> 01:04:28.980 Stuart Kahan: it's it's not there yet, there will be a need for a waterfront special permits be issued by the Board of. 420 01:04:28.980 --> 01:04:29.730 Stuart Kahan: trustees. 421 01:04:30.060 --> 01:04:45.750 Stuart Kahan: in accord with the zoning code and they will be obviously the the planning boards role as well, but i'm unable at this point to Page 45 of 47 sort of tell you, you know when that's going to happen when it's going to show up on their you know agenda. 422 01:04:47.190 --> 01:04:59.850 Stuart Kahan: At this point, we're not there were still you know discussing and we'll be discussing the land acquisition and disposition agreements, obviously, as you may have heard from the earlier discussions. 423 01:05:00.600 --> 01:05:08.670 Stuart Kahan: We have letters out to the dtc with regard to the proposed alternatives that have been presented by consolidated Edison. 424 01:05:09.330 --> 01:05:28.080 Stuart Kahan: In order to in our hope to get this property into the brownfield program but i'm not able to tell you now when that's going to show up on a planning board agenda, but it certainly will be you know well advertised before that happens, thank you. 425 01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.430 Karen D'Attore: Thank you Stuart um. 426 01:05:42.390 --> 01:05:43.320 Karen D'Attore: Any other question. 427 01:05:43.470 --> 01:05:45.030 Miguel Hern?ndez: No, no i'm lowering my hand. 428 01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:47.040 Jaimie Hoffman: Already, for you. 429 01:05:47.550 --> 01:05:50.790 Karen D'Attore: Okay, thank you anybody else. 430 01:05:52.830 --> 01:05:53.490 Karen D'Attore: feel free. 431 01:05:58.530 --> 01:05:59.550 Karen D'Attore: Okay, so. 432 01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:08.850 Page 46 of 47 Karen D'Attore: we're not seeing anybody else raise raise their hand i'll just give you another couple seconds, in case you're trying to find the little hand button, but. 433 01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:23.820 Karen D'Attore: If there are no more questions, we want to thank you for your time this evening, thank you to to everybody here to buyer blender Rao to for the presentation and. 434 01:06:24.900 --> 01:06:32.280 Karen D'Attore: Also, obviously, while they're Walter, but the board and and Dr Sanchez We appreciate you being here our staff. 435 01:06:33.660 --> 01:06:40.620 Karen D'Attore: This is now again our fifth meeting we're going to have our sixth meeting in a couple weeks and we will keep you posted on that. 436 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:51.390 Karen D'Attore: please feel free to watch the video and share it, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out, we are very reachable. 437 01:06:52.170 --> 01:07:03.330 Karen D'Attore: The information is in the presentation, which will be on YouTube and you can always reach me at K dettori at village of ossining COM, so thank you very much, have a lovely evening everybody. 438 01:07:03.570 --> 01:07:13.590 Stuart Kahan: Those of you who are going to be on the advice of counsel that's the Bo TEAM members that's going to start at 838 30 for the advice and counsel. 439 01:07:13.740 --> 01:07:14.460 Stuart Kahan: Thank you folks. 440 01:07:15.090 --> 01:07:16.440 Karen D'Attore: Okay, thank you, everybody. 441 01:07:16.650 --> 01:07:17.280 Rika Levin: To all. 442 01:07:17.850 --> 01:07:18.660 Karen D'Attore: Okay bye bye. 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