Planning and Zoning
Regular MeetingPaola, KS · November 21, 2006
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
PLANNING COMMISSION/
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
November 21, 2006
Commissioners Present: Cowman, McLean, Gage, Rhodes, L. Smith, Wrischnik, Minden
Others Present: Justin Givens, Amy Barenklau, Ross VanderHamm, Brian McCauley, Jim
Kaup, Dennis Doherty, Dick Allenbrand, Randy & Carol Medlen, Clifford & Melvina Pearce,
Tim Smith, Mike Gottschalk, Kerry & Cathy Crawford
Item 1: Consider the minutes for the October 17, 2006 meeting.
Chair Cowman called the meeting to order with the first order of business the consideration of
the minutes from the October 17, 2006 meeting.
Commissioners Gage and Cowman made a motion to approve the minutes as submitted with all
Commissioners voting in favor.
Item 2: Re-Plat Prairie Place Condominiums: Consider a request for a re-plat to
Enable the sale of apartments as condominiums.
Planner Givens presented the staff brief. He announced that Clint Stewart with Taylor Design
Group was in attendance. This item was initially slated for the October meeting but due to
problems with the preliminary and final plat was removed from the agenda. Staff has been
working with Clint Stewart of Taylor Design Group on the plat and feel that it is ready for
submittal to the Planning Commission.
Owners David and Barbara Snodgrass have asked that the preliminary/final re-plat be approved
in order for them to sale the apartment units as individual condominiums. The re-plat is needed
to divide each unit into a separate piece of property with common elements being retained such
as the road (Prairie Street) as well as the drives and patios, to be maintained by a home owners
association.
The road which has been a point of contention will remain private. If it is ever to become public
the individual owners are or will be made aware through deeds and covenants that any costs
associated to bringing the road up to standard will be returned to them.
Currently the Paola Building Department is working with the owners and engineering
representatives to facilitate the conversion of the units into condominiums. Since the buildings
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were originally built as apartment certain code provisions were not required. Now that the
owners wish to convert the units, certain fire and life safety provisions such as fire separations
and electrical service entrances must be addressed. No individual unit will be allowed to be
occupied until these issues are addressed and corrected. On the building layouts an abbreviation
LCE exists. This represents the limited common elements that will be maintained by the home
owners association.
Actions: Review for Accuracy – Per the LDO
The Planning Commission shall approve the final plat if it finds that the following criteria are
satisfied:
A. The final plat substantially conforms to the approved preliminary plat and rule
exceptions granted thereto. Staff feels that the final and preliminary re-plat
conform substantially to each other.
B. The plat conforms to all applicable requirements of the Paola Land Development
Ordinance; subject only to approved rule exceptions. All submission requirements
have been satisfied. Having reviewed the final and preliminary re-plat staff feels
that the document does meet all the applicable requirements of the Paola Land
Development Ordinance
C. All submission requirements have been satisfied. Staff concurs that all
submission requirements have been met.
Following the approval of the final plat by the Planning Commission, the final plat shall
be submitted to the City Council for review of land proposed to be dedicated for public
purposes. The City Council may:
A. Accept or refuse the dedication of land for public purposes.
B. Defer action for an additional 30 days for the purpose of allowing for
modifications to comply with requirements established by the Council.
Recommendation: It is Staff’s recommendation that the preliminary / final re-plat be approved and
submitted to the City Council. The re-plat substantially conforms to the submitted preliminary plat as
well as to the requirements of the LDO. All submission requirements of this re-plat have been satisfied as
well.
Commissioner Rhodes inquired about the commonality of plumbing, electrical and other lines.
Clint Stewart indicated that the Home Owner’s Association would be responsible for
maintenance and repair of all common areas. Commissioner Rhodes then inquired if the
building code issues were still a concern. Clint replied that if the re-plat was approved it could
be contingent upon resolution of building code issues and other issues as determined by city
staff.
Planner Givens stated that the Certificates of Occupancy could hinge on either the plat being
filed and/or the building code issues.
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Commissioner Wrischnik inquired if there would be a zoning change required? Planner Givens
responded that there would not be a change required.
Commissioner Rhodes made a motion to approve the re-plat of Prairie Place Apartments with an
addendum that includes approval of the Home Owner’s Association language and building
approval of building code issues by city staff.
Commissioner Gage seconded the motion. All Commissioners voted in favor.
3: Public Hearing: Text Amendment to the Paola Land Development Ordinance – S-2
Zoning District.
Commissioners Gage and Cowman made a motion to open the Public Hearing with all
Commissioners voting in favor.
Planner Givens presented the staff brief. At the request of area builders and developers the previous
Planning Director along with Jim Kaup researched and created a new zoning district, the S-2 District.
During several meetings Planning Commissioners and Staff were able to provide comment and guidance
to Mr. Kaup on the make-up of the new zoning district with respect to the minimum provisions that will
be included in the LDO.
Per our regulations a formal public hearing is to be held to discuss any changes to the LDO, a
recommendation is to be made by the Planning Commission and then approved ultimately by the Paola
City Council.
Analysis: The S-2 District provides a blend from the Suburban and Thoroughfare Districts. Land Use,
Minimum Lot Size, Setbacks and other issues addressed by in the LDO. The problem that developers
were facing was that the Suburban regulations called for less dense developments than often times were
feasible while the Thoroughfare Access Zone allowed for to much density and to much diversity in land
use.
The new S-2 district will allow for denser developments while still maintaining the suburban nature of the
development. Minimum lot sizes will be 9,500 sq. ft. giving developers more flexibility in creating new
housing tracts.
The district is a reflection of several months of meetings and input from members of the Planning
Commission, Staff and consultant Jim Kaup.
Recommendation: It is Staff’s recommendation that the Planning Commission approves the S-2 zoning
district and text amendment to the LDO and submits the amendment to the Paola City Council for final
approval.
Actions: Review for Accuracy – The Planning Commission may;
Deny the text amendment for approval by the City Council,
Approve the text amendment as submitted for approval by the City Council,
Approve the text amendment as revised for approval by the City Council.
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There were no questions from those in attendance.
Commissioners Rhodes and Gage made a motion to close the public hearing with all
Commissioners voting in favor.
Commissioner Rhodes inquired about the process to rezone areas to the new S-2 zoning. Planner
Givens indicated that staff had decided to let the developers and property owners request
rezoning.
Commissioners Rhodes and Gage made a motion to approve the text amendments as submitted.
All Commissioners voted in favor.
Item 6: Recommendation to Paola City Council – 295th Street Closure
Planner Givens presented the staff brief and told the Commissioners that the developer is looking
for direction for the developer from the city. The closing of 295th Street is a topic of long discussion
for this Commission and the City Council. Several factors have been identified as to why closing 295th
has become a necessity. They are as follows;
(1) The proximity of the intersection of 295th and Hedge Lane to the at-grade railway
crossing. As Paola continues to grow northward, this intersection will experience
increased traffic volumes. As Hedge Lane will be a major arterial between K68, the new
development to the north, and commercial/USD368 to the south; a new ‘underpass’ to
eliminate the at-grade rail crossing is an improvement that will be needed. The timing for
upgrades to the rail crossing are not known (5yrs – 25yrs), however planning for this
eventuality does have merit.
(2) Proximity of buried high pressure gas main to the intersection.
(3) Flooding conditions (overtopping of 295th) during storm events. This overtopping occurs
along the east property line of Rockwood Estates. This is not a new condition however it
is a life-safety issue that will become more critical as traffic volumes increase. This high
flow also impacts property to the south by creating soggy conditions/ponding water and
eroding fairways.
Both the Planning Commission and City Council have addressed these issues in meeting and
work sessions and several options were established. They are as follows;
Option 1: Leave 295th open between Old KC Road and Hedge Lane (no closure – road
remains unchanged)
Option 2: Leave 295th open between Old KC Road and the last residence to the east (this
would close the eastern ½ of 295th Street)
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Option 3: Leave 295th open between Old KC Road and the entrance to Rockwood Estates
(this would result in the closure of the majority of 295th)
It seems through previous discussion that most people agreed Option 2 would be the most
feasible. The question now becomes at what point should the closure occur and what “triggers”
need to happen before the city begins the process of closing the road.
Analysis: As the Northridge Development approaches a formal policy on the closing of 295th should be
adopted to ensure logical and sensible development for the city and affected property owners. One
question would be how much of Northridge’s through road from Old KC to Hedge Lane should be
constructed and opened at once. With the high traffic volume it is apparent that 295th has become a well
used road for traffic moving east and west on the northern part of town. This is one factor that should be
addressed, should all of Northridge’s east/west street be opened as the development begins. If this road is
available much of the through traffic would be able to continue traveling east and west while limited
maintenance and partial closure of 295th could begin. This would also help to alleviate some of the
congestion problems at Hedge/295th and the Rail Road crossing.
The initial concept of the Northridge Development that Phase I would start on the west close to Old KC
Road. This addition has a road that is scheduled to tie into the Rockwood Development. This would help
alleviate some of the access concerns for the residents of Rockwood. If a portion of 295th is closed east of
Rockwood residents would still be able to exit onto 295th as well as using the new road in Northridge to
travel both east and west.
Recommendation: Staff would recommend a formal recommendation from the Planning Commission to
the City Council that as the Northridge Development proceeds the main east / west road be constructed as
a through road and not in stages. Also, after the completion of Northridge’s east/west road the City begin
the process of closing the necessary parts of 295th.
Actions: Review and Discuss the Closing of 295th Street. The Planning Commission may;
Recommend a formal policy for the City Council on the development of Northridge’s east/west road and
the related triggers for closing 295th Street;
Ask staff for more information and guidance as to a formal plan of development and work with property
owners and staff to achieve such a goal.
Commissioner Cowman stated he felt there were two decisions to make: 1.) How much of 295th
Street to close and if it is necessary to close? 2.) If a portion is closed, when does it happen?
Cowman then inquired if the city picks up a portion of the cost for the new road.
City Manager VanderHamm explained that when the city requires a new road to meet arterial
and/or collector standards, then the city pays for the costs associated with additional
requirements above those for a standard residential street. The issue is usually part of the
negotiations between the City Council and the developer.
Mike Gottschalk, a resident in Rockwood Estates, voiced concerns about the cost to maintain
295th Street, the amount and speeds of traffic on the road and felt that information about cost was
necessary to make a decision. He also stated he had been to one of the other meetings and felt
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that the street needs immediate help, but it was better to look at ‘virgin’ ground vs. spending
money to rehab a current bad road.
Councilman Jack Rowlett, Jr., explained that he believed the current rule of thumb for new roads
to be approximately $100/lineal foot.
Commissioner Gage stated he understood that part of 295th Street was supposed to have had curb
and gutter installed when Rockwood developed.
Randy Medlen, resident on 295th Street, inquired about exits/entrances for existing homes and
how a new road would hold up to the additional 900+ vehicle trips from the new development.
He said he felt that 295th Street could help relieve some of that. He voiced he still has concerns
about how this will work and the ability of residents currently living on 295th having access to
their homes and property, while not having to pay for maintenance or lose part of their land.
Dennis Doherty said he had envisioned the new road going through when the new development
began. He also reminded everyone that now is the cheapest time to build the new road, not later.
There is not a date or time associated yet with his development, as the final plan and plat still
have to be completed and go through the process.
Commissioner Cowman said he felt it would be difficult to close an existing road until there was
something to replace it with. He felt the new road would have to be completed before 295th
Street could be even partially closed. Commissioner Smith stated that maintenance on the road
is also a concern. Cowman said there is no easy answer, everyone has different opinion about
the best option.
Kerry Crawford, a resident on 295th Street, inquired about costs for maintenance and/or upgrades
to the road and what it could cost depending on where the road was potentially closed. He then
inquired about why it was necessary to have a decision now? City Manager VanderHamm
explained that a decision is necessary so the developer and City can plan based on the decision.
Mr. Crawford inquired if the city or county had ever thought about buying out the homeowners
instead of trying to work around them when making this decision.
Tim Smith, Country Club member, asked about vacating the road and making it private. Ernie
Pratt brought up the property owned by the Country Club and stated that they do not want to be
landlocked in case the property is ever developed residentially.
Commissioner Minden asked what would happen to 295th Street residents if the street were
closed and they ever wanted to add a building how the front façade would be determined? He
reminded everyone that we have had the issue in the past and it would be a concern.
Commissioners Rhodes and Minden made a motion that at which time the new road is open and
access for property owners to the new road is in, that 295th Street be closed from the Crawford’s
property East. Then another meeting could be held to determine the status of the rest of the
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road. Commissioners McLean, Gage, Rhodes, Minden, Wrischnik, Smith voted in favor.
Commissioner Cowman opposed. Motion carried.
Commissioner Cowman explained that he felt the road should be closed at Rockwood’s entrance
because there was a lot of taxpayer money going to waste, otherwise.
City Manager VanderHamm stated he would like to have another meeting with property owners,
Dick Allenbrand, Dennis Doherty, Public Works and any others before the City Council made
their decision.
Item 4: Update: Comprehensive Plan update and review – Jim Kaup
Planner Givens presented the staff brief. Earlier this year, the Planning Commission and Staff
undertook the goal along with consultants Jim Kaup and Wynndee Lee of producing a Comprehensive
Plan to help guide the future development and growth of Paola and the Growth Area. Over several
meetings the Planning Commission, Staff and Consultants have met with each other and the community
to draft a document that would reach the goals set forth. Commissioners and Staff have had many
opportunities to make suggestions and revisions on the plan based on what has been presented prior to
tonight.
Analysis: The document presented tonight reflects the numerous meetings, revisions and input from the
Commission, City Staff and our consultants. It is for review hopefully for the final time and any further
revisions will be slight and the document will be able to be presented at a Public Hearing in December
and ultimately adopted by the City Council in January.
Recommendation: It is Staff’s recommendation that the Planning Commission accepts the draft either as
submitted or as revised and sets a Public Hearing date of Tuesday, December 19th, 2006 for formal
approval.
Actions: Review for Accuracy – The Planning Commission may;
Recommend further revisions to be presented in draft form at a later date,
Approve the Comprehensive Plan as submitted for a Public Hearing,
Approve the Comprehensive Plan as revised for a Public Hearing.
Jim Kaup addressed the Commissioners and told them that the packet they received is still missing the
levy information and the executive summary.
The Commissioners gave indication that they felt good about the document and were ready to proceed
with the process. Jim explained that there will probably be some changes after the Public Hearing, but
hopefully would not require a second public meeting. Once the changes are made it could be approved
and then adoption by the City Council to complete the Comprehensive Plan Update.
Commissioners Rhodes and Cowman made a motion to recommend the draft of the Comprehensive Plan
go to Public Hearing at a date set at staff’s recommendation. All Commissioners voted in favor.
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Item 5: Future Land Use Map – Update and review.
Planner Givens presented the staff brief. Staff and consultants, Jim Kaup and Wynndee Lee met to
discuss and map a Future Land Use Map to accompany the Comprehensive Plan.
Analysis: Provided is the draft Future Land Use Map that staff and consultants created to accompany the
Comprehensive Plan. The map lays out where and what type of growth and land use is reflected in the
Comprehensive Plan and within the regulations of the LDO. As the city and community growth area
grow, it is important to have an idea as to what type of land use would be most beneficial in a particular
area. This is done with respect to current zoning regulations, current growth trends, future growth trends,
current infrastructure and future infrastructure. The map reflects the thoughts of what might happen but is
not rigid. It is flexible just as the Comprehensive Plan is and should be reviewed periodically to make
sure that the growth of the area is acceptable and not detrimental to the future. The map is a guide to help
encourage smart growth, but not intended to stymie growth in a particular area and promote a particular
land use over another. Several areas where left as Mixed Use areas.
Several particular classifications were made and represent the Future Land Use Map.
Mixed Use Areas – This is land that could develop in a number of ways and could support a
number of uses. Primarily, this land is located in the 68 corridor between the round-about and
169, as well as the southern entrance of 169. Once sewer and water are established in these areas
they will be able to support various uses from industry to residential. Also, as access points to
major transportation routes makes these areas viable for a number of commercial, industrial,
manufacturing uses as well as residential areas.
Industrial – the only land that is classified as industrial on this map is currently being used as
industrial land. Much of what is in the Mixed Use area could easily be converted or used for
industry.
Low Density Residential – this continues the preservation of space by reserving land for larger
home sites and preserves the rural feel of the community.
Medium Density Residential – this is land that will most likely be used for our new S-2 zoning
district. These areas will have denser housing developments with a variety of home types and
styles.
Urban Area – this helps to define the areas that are already built out or will be built out in the near
future.
Public / Institutional – This is a new district that will need to eventually be created and referenced
in the LDO. This is land that will be reserved by local agencies for the public and the institution
that they serve. It protects lands adjacent to these areas ensuring that their use will generally stay
the same.
Commercial Use – These areas consist of land that is developed or will be developed for most
business, retail or service industries. Commercial Uses could very easily be included in the
mixed use areas as well.
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Estate/Agriculture – land reserved for large tracts and general agricultural use.
Recommendation: As this is the first time the commission has seen the Future Land Use Map and as not
to distract from the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan; it is Staff’s recommendation that the
Commission review the map and make any recommendations as to changes in areas or boundaries, then at
a later date schedule a Public Hearing to recommended the Future Land Use Map for adoption by the City
Council.
Actions: Review, Comment and Make Revisions – the Planning Commission may;
Request recommendations and revisions to the map made by staff to be addressed at a later
commission meeting;
Accept the Map as submitted and schedule its recommendation for a Public Hearing;
Accept the Map as revised and schedule its recommendation for a Public Hearing.
Planner Givens explained that this was a collective effort and somewhat of an educated guess.
The map indicates areas that are current public/institutional properties. There are some areas that
will need additional land for future use as we grow.
Commissioner Gage inquired if there was a national standard for percentage of recreation land
suggested for communities.
Jim Kaup responded that he felt that it was around 5 – 8% for communities of this size, including
buildings and park/recreation areas. He said it seemed that less than 5% was considered to be
‘lacking’.
Commissioner Gage asked if there was a break down that gave recommendations for buildings,
land, where parks should be located. He stated it seems there is a constant struggle for buildings
and recreation areas. He said it would be interesting and would like to see if it could be
incorporated into the draft.
The Commissioners all agreed that it would be nice if the colors were more contrasting for the
Public Hearing. Then they discussed the need for two meetings or one for the comprehensive
plan and the future land use map.
Commissioners Rhodes and Cowman made a motion to accept the future land use map as
amended and recommend it for public hearing. All Commissioners voted in favor.
Discussion followed about the date for the public hearing. It was decided that the
Commissioners would like to hold the public hearing for the Comprehensive Plan and the future
land use map on the same evening, one after another. It was decided that January 18th at 6:30 pm
would be acceptable.
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Commissioners Rhodes and Cowman made a motion to hold the public hearing on Thursday,
January 18, 2007 at 6:30 pm. All Commissioners voted in favor.
Item 7: Items from Staff
a.) Right-Of-Way Discussion - Staff has been directed to review the Right of Way
requirements for residential streets and the regulations governing these distances established in the LDO.
Currently, the LDO requires a 60 foot Right of Way (ROW) on a majority of the residential streets that
will be and have been built in the City of Paola and the growth area. As developments have gone in these
requirements may seem excessive and have caused several problems with drive approaches and lot sizes.
Analysis: All ordinances and regulations should be regularly reviewed to see if the intent of those rules
are actually accomplishing the goals that they are created to meet. In this instance we should ask is the
required 60 foot ROW the best practice for the areas regulated by the LDO or would an alternative
distance, in this case, a 50 foot ROW be more practical or beneficial. A 50 foot ROW is used in many
communities and allows for the same streetscapes as a 60 foot ROW but returns more land and useable
space to the developer or homeowner. As recently discussed at a Paola Tree Board meeting the minimum
space to plant a small tree should be 5 feet of un-used space. Even with the largest of street/pavement
widths and required sidewalks a small street tree could still be planted and maintained without promoting
damage to the curb or sidewalk using a 50 foot ROW. The attached chart tries to show visually what the
difference would be using a 60 foot ROW and the largest street/pavement width required of 30 feet as
compared to the same circumstance using a ROW of 50 feet. An additional example shows the smallest
street/pavement width of 24 feet using a 60 and 50 foot ROW.
This is merely a discussion matter at this time as staff is seeking input from numerous sources to see if
this idea works in practice, if 60 foot ROWs provide some benefit over a 50 foot ROW and would this be
something that Paola should address. As with any planning related issue comment by and input from the
Planning Commission is extremely important.
Recommendation: Staff recommends that the Planning Commission take this matter under advisement
and make any necessary comment or provide direction for staff.
Actions: Review and Provide comment on for action at a later date.
The Commissioners asked if staff had checked with the utility companies to see if there would be
adequate space in the Right-Of-Way if it was decreased.
Planner Givens said staff had been in contact with the Paola Tree Board and have been having discussions
about the types of landscaping.
Commissioners Rhodes and Cowman voiced concerns about changes and wanted to have more
information before making a decision. All Commissioners voiced concerns about possibility of another
Indian Hills.
Planner Givens told the Commissioners he would locate some sample plats before the next meeting to
help assist in the discussion.
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b.) Reclass Future Major Collector - Staff was recently approached by a builder about
future developments on what would be the proposed Industrial Drive as it ties into the Indian Hills sub-
development and East Street. This piece of road is classified as a Future Major Collector in the LDO.
Currently the road is un-platted with only stubs in Indian Hills and south of the Sundance Apartments.
Analysis: As we know, sometimes things look better on paper than they do in actuality. It is definitely
something that planners know all to well. As platted the Indian Hills sub-division installed 30 foot width
streets. As we have learned, with the shallow set-backs and street parking the concept of either of the two
Indian Hills streets as Major Collectors is virtually impossible. Due to the increased traffic now from the
Baptiste Road construction it is evident that funneling and encouraging traffic through this area should
not be advised. The current road width outside of Sundance Apartments II is 26 feet.
Staff is seeking guidance and assistance as to what alternatives and deviations should be made, if any and
what classification the un-developed section of Industrial Drive be given.
Recommendation: Staff recommends that the Planning Commission take this matter under advisement
and make any necessary comment or provide direction for staff.
Actions: Review and Provide comment on for action at a later date.
Planner Givens stated he wanted the Commissioners to be aware that it was going to happen. The
Commissioners agreed it would be necessary.
Item 8: Items from Commissioners
Commissioner Cowman inquired about the Dry Cleaners trailer on Kansas Drive. Staff stated
that the new building at Baptiste Commons was getting close to being completed and hopefully
by the end of the year the temporary trailer would be removed.
Item 9: Adjourn
Commissioners Minden and Rhodes made a motion to adjourn with all Commissioners voting in
favor.
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Agenda
AGENDA
Paola Planning Commission / Board of Zoning Appeals
TUESDAY, November 21, 2006
5:00 PM, Paola Community (Cultural) Center
ITEM CASE NUMBER DESCRIPTION
1. Consider minutes from October 17, 2006 meeting
2. 06-PLAT-03 Re-plat: Prairie Place Condominiums – Consider a
request for a re-plat to enable the sale of apartments as
condominiums.
3. Public Hearing: Text Amendment to the Paola Land
Development Ordinance – S-2 Zoning District
4. Update: Comprehensive Plan update and review – Jim
Kaup & Wynndee Lee
5. Future Land Use Map – update and review
6. Recommendation to Paola City Council – 295th Street
Closure
7. Items from Staff:
a: Right of Way Discussion
b: Re-Classification of Future Major Collector
c:
d:
8. Items from Commissioners:
a:
b:
c:
d:
9. Adjourn
NEXT REGULARY SCHEDULED MEETING
December 19, 2006
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