Architectural Review Board
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · April 9, 2014
Minutes
Architectural Review Board
City of Petersburg, Virginia
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
April 9, 2014 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, City Hall
135 N. Union Street, Petersburg VA 23803
Members Present:
Chair, Joe Battiston
Vice-Chair, Isaac Ward
Mitchell Pradia
Theresa Booty
Celeste Wynn
Gibson Worsham
Members Absent:
Phillip Arnold
Staff:
Secretary to the ARB, Kathleen Morgan
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Joe Battiston called to order a regular meeting of the City of Petersburg
Architectural Review Board on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 at 6:00 p.m. at Council
Chambers, City Hall, 135 N. Union Street, Petersburg, Virginia 23803.
2. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. REVIEW OF MINUTES
The minutes of the March 12, 2014 regular meeting were approved with a motion
from Ms. Wynn and a second from Ms. Booty. The motion passed unanimously, with
the exception of Mr. Ward abstaining.
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Ward moved to have 215 Low Street (j) placed on a consent agenda. The agenda
was approved as amended and the consent agenda was approved with a motion from
Ms. Booty and a second from Mr. Ward. The motion passed unanimously.
5. PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD
Chair Battiston opened the Public Information Period to anyone who wished to speak
on any subject not on the agenda. No comments during the Public Information
Period. Chair Battiston closed the public comment period.
6. CONSENT AGENDA
a. 215 Low Street: Application was approved as submitted with a motion from Ms.
Booty and a second from Mr. Ward. The motion passed unanimously.
7. REQUEST(S) FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS
a. 601 Grove Avenue: Staff explained the property owner would like to defer the
application until she is able to discuss the matter with the tenant. Staff
recommended deferring the application. Mr. Ward moved to defer the
application, followed by a second from Ms. Wynn. The motion was approved
unanimously.
b. 313 Grove Avenue: Staff explained the applicant had a family emergency. Staff
recommended deferring the application. Mr. Ward moved to defer the
application, followed by a second from Ms. Booty. The motion was approved
unanimously.
c. 11 Centre Hill: The applicant, Al K. Smith, was present. Staff recommended
approval of the proposed application. The applicant stated the new porch flooring
material would be just on the Centre Hill Court side, the back porch facing North
Jefferson is poured concrete. The applicant proposed a black aluminum fence
similar to that of Centre Hill Mansion’s. Chair Battiston asked for a picture of the
proposed fence; the applicant did not have that available. Mr. Ward asked what
the applicant was proposing for the front porch railing. The applicant stated it
would be wood and what was there is not original. Staff concurred that what is
there was not original. Mr. Ward asked if the applicant had any design for the
railing and the fence; the applicant did not have that available. The applicant
stated the railing would be close to what it was before. Mr. Ward stated the board
would need designs to approve the fencing and the railing for the porch. Ms.
Booty asked what the condition of the front porch flooring; the applicant stated it
was in poor condition. Mr. Ward asked staff about what was visible from the
street in relation to the front porch; if just the ends of the floor boards were
visible. Staff confirmed stating that the set back is such that visibility of the porch
flooring is very low, but it is evident that there is some warping in the floor
boards. Mr. Ward asked that the applicant not move forward with the roof
replacement until he provides staff with a sample of the asphalt shingle roof. Mr.
Ward asked the board’s opinion about the porch flooring; Ms. Booty stated it is
hard to tell how much of the flooring is rotten. Mr. Ward stated the board’s
purview ends when something is no longer visible from a public place. Chair
Battiston stated he does not prefer the proposed flooring as it would affect the
aesthetics of the property. Mr. Ward asked if this was the original porch. Chair
Battiston stated he did not know. Staff stated the porch roof was in line with the
main roof, suggesting there was a porch there originally. The applicant asked if
the board’s main concern with the porch flooring was the appearance. Mr. Ward
concurred. Mr. Ward moved to approve the roof replacement contingent upon
staff’s approval of a submitted sample, metal storm windows, stucco and window
repair in accordance with the National Park Service (NPS) Preservation Briefs
and defer the porch flooring, fence, gate and railing followed by a second from
Ms. Wynn. The motion was approved unanimously.
d. 702-08 Harrison Street: The applicant, Al K. Smith, was present. Staff
recommended approval of the proposed application with the exception of
deferring the alley and rear access portion of the application, as well as the
roofing material unless the applicant brings a sizeable sample and more
information on the product. Ms. Booty thought there was an existing handicapped
access on the left portion of the front porch. Chair Battiston stated the rear access
and the fence would be deferred. Mr. Ward asked about the sample material for
the roof. Ms. Booty asked what the warranty on the roof would be, and the
applicant stated 30 years. Chair Battiston stated his opinion was to defer the roof
replacement until a sufficient sample was presented; Ms. Booty agreed saying that
slate will last a very long time. Mr. Ward would like a more detailed design of
the handicapped ramp. Chair Battiston suggested providing the handicapped
access in the rear, as to not disrupt the aesthetics of the primary elevation but also
meeting ADA requirements. Mr. Ward requested a design for the balustrade as
well as the front porch rails. Mr. Ward moved to defer the application except for
the repair of the windows followed by a second from Mr. Pradia. The motion was
approved unanimously.
e. 712 Harrison Street: The applicant, Al K. Smith, was present. Staff
recommended approval of the proposed application with the exception of
deferring the alley and rear access portion of the application, as well as the
Hardiplank siding until the condition of the wood siding is able to be determined.
Chair Battiston asked if the proposed deck was visible from the street. The
applicant stated the deck was on the north side of the building. Chair Battiston
questioned if the deck was in the board’s purview, which is unclear at the moment
due to the uncertainty of the alley access. Mr. Ward moved to approve the repair
of the existing windows, removal of the asbestos siding but not the wood siding
(to be evaluated after the asbestos is removed), the roof to be painted red with
color verified by staff followed by a second from Ms. Wynn. The motion was
approved unanimously.
f. 623A Harrison Street: The applicant, Al K. Smith, was present. Staff
recommends deferral of the proposed application until a structural engineer has
deemed the building not suitable for rehabilitation and until it has officially joined
with the adjoining parcel. Chair Battiston asked how much space was between
this property and the property to the south. The applicant did not have a definite
answer, but it is less than two feet. Chair Battiston asked staff who would be
responsible to obtain the structural engineer; staff replied the applicant or the
owner. Mr. Pradia asked why staff is recommending a structural engineer report
for this property and not the city properties proposed for demolition last year.
Staff responded that the city properties this year will receive the same
recommendation, and that no precedence was set—each is a case by case basis.
Ms. Booty asked if the city has issued any violations; the applicant stated the
building has been red tagged. Chair Battiston stated he would like to make a site
visit. Ms. Booty stated she has visited the property and has her opinion. Mr.
Worsham stated these shotgun structures are rare. Staff stated the engineer report
was suggested to justify the demolition of contributing structures, as in most
instances there is no written record of the condition of buildings that are
demolished. Mr. Worsham asked is the City responsible for documenting the
buildings before they are demolished. Staff responded the City could produce
photographs but would ask the owner to produce measured drawings. Mr.
Worsham moved to defer the application until site visits were made. Ms. Booty
stated she would like to see an engineer’s report. Ms. Wynn seconded the motion
to defer the application. The motion passed unanimously.
g. 625-27 Harrison Street: The applicant, Al K. Smith, was present. Staff
recommended approval of the proposed application with the condition that the
applicant come back with a more detailed plan of how to approach the
aluminum/wood siding. Chair Battiston stated that the alley situation needs to be
clarified. Chair Battiston asked if the front only had the aluminum; the applicant
agreed. Chair Battiston asked if the applicant would consider repairing the wood
siding on the other sides of the building, removing the aluminum siding and
repairing the wood beneath it. The applicant stated that most of the building still
has the aluminum. Chair Battiston states that vinyl siding would not be permitted,
but once the aluminum is removed the board would have to look at the possibility
of more suitable materials or retaining the wood that is existing. The applicant
clarified that he was proposing to repair the aluminum and use salvaged
aluminum siding for the portions where siding was missing. Ms. Wynn asked if
the dormer was supposed to be a window; the applicant stated that originally it
was probably a window. Mr. Worsham said it undoubtedly had a window, but it
was boarded up when the aluminum siding was installed. Mr. Ward stated that
the porch soffits needed repair; Mr. Worsham asked if the applicant would be
retaining the posts and columns; the applicant stated he would repair the existing
posts and the soffits. Mr. Ward stated that if another gutter system were to be
proposed, as opposed to repairing the built in gutters, it would need approval.
Chair Battiston asked if the applicant had decided on a roof paint color; the
applicant stated he was going to propose a red roof and submit a sample to staff.
Mr. Ward moved to approve the repair of the soffits, windows, aluminum siding,
porch columns, and the metal roofs to be painted red once a color sample is
presented to staff followed by a second from Mr. Pradia. The motion was
approved unanimously.
h. 212 S. Jones Street: The applicant, Danielle Powell, was present. Staff
recommended deferral of the proposed application until a structural engineer has
deemed the building not suitable for rehabilitation. Mr. Hines, the Building
Official, stated that this demolition is a part of Operation Renew. The Army
conducts the demolition and uses big machinery; once a machine is on site, the
City tries to keep the demolitions within a close proximity to reduce the need to
take down power lines and make other infrastructure adjustments. The
demolitions are at a very low cost to the City. Mr. Hines continues to state that
owners have the opportunity to present an abatement plan to the City. Ms.
Powell, the applicant, states that in order for the National Guard to contribute to
this program, the area has to have an element of crime. Mr. Worsham asks if
there is a standard for historic buildings in which the City might not consider a
property because it is historically significant; Mr. Hines states that there is no
standard based on historic significance, for him it is a safety and crime issue. Mr.
Worsham states that Jones Street is of major significance for African-American
history and that structures like this barely exist anymore. Ms. Booty asks how
feasible is it to salvage materials from the demolished buildings; Mr. Hines states
that it is a liability for people to enter these buildings. Ms. Powell states that the
letters property owners receive from the City Manager’s office; owners have 30
days to respond with an abatement plan or the property will be presented to
Council for spot blight abatement. Ms. Powell states that the owner called her
office stating that he has no interest in putting any money into fixing the property
or even demolishing the property. Mr. Hines states the back portion is collapsing.
Mr. Worsham asks how it could be coordinated to record and document these
properties. Chair Battiston asks how bad the property is; Ms. Booty responds
stating that it is in pretty bad condition. Chair Battiston asks what does Ms.
Booty see that makes her conclude it is in bad shape; Ms. Booty responds with
now that she sees pictures she thinks she might be confused with 623A Harrison
Street. Chair Battiston asks if this is something that could be postponed to the
next meeting because he would like to go make a site visit; Mr. Hines states it can
be postponed. The applicant reiterates that the owner has no intentions of doing
anything to the property. Ms. Booty asks if the City funds the demolition since
the owner will still own the property once it is demolished; Mr. Hines states a tax
lien is placed on the property once the demolition is completed. Mr. Pradia asks
if the applicant has a statement from the owner stating he is not interested in
working on the property. The applicant states she does not but has asked the
owner for a written statement. Staff states that if the board wanted to go together
to make site visits, a public notice would have to be posted. Ms. Booty states she
believes there should be something from a structural engineer stating the
properties are not salvageable. Mr. Hines states he does not have it in his budget
to get a structural engineer for each property, if they are very significant he will
go elsewhere, but it makes sense to do the properties that are close together. Ms.
Powell states that although a property could be put up for sale so that someone
may purchase it, there is not guarantee that it will be purchased and the property
could continue to decline. She states she is currently dealing with an owner of a
property who has had his property on the market for 14 years; she asks that the
board keep that in mind. Mr. Worsham states that one should hang on to historic
properties as long as it’s feasible and safe in hopes that they will be redeveloped;
Mr. Hines states that these properties are not safe. Mr. Worsham moved to defer
the application and to form a committee to make site visits of this property as well
as other historic properties on the list for Operation Renew followed by a second
from Ms. Wynn. The motion was approved unanimously.
i. 216 S. Jones Street: The applicant, Danielle Powell, was present. Staff
recommended deferral of the proposed application until a structural engineer has
deemed the building not suitable for rehabilitation. Ms. Powell stated the
justification is the same as it was for 212 S. Jones Street. The applicant stated the
back of the property is collapsing. Mr. Hines stated the property has extensive
water damage. Chair Battiston asks if staff would mind being in attendance when
site visits are made. Staff responded that she would be in attendance. Mr.
Worsham moved to defer the application and to form a committee to make site
visits of this property as well as other historic properties on the list for Operation
Renew followed by a second from Mr. Pradia. The motion was approved
unanimously.
8. OLD BUSINESS
9. NEW BUSINESS
a. Administrative Approval: Staff would like approval to administratively approve
repair and replacement of materials that are of the same material, form, size, and
shape. Staff would also like to administratively approve signage; staff would also
like to be able to administratively approve COA renewals. Mr. Ward states that
previous boards have approved applications that the current board may not
approve. Mr. Ward states that anything staff feels might be controversial, staff
could bring the application to the board. Chair Battiston clarifies that each
renewal should be addressed individually. Mr. Ward states administrative
approvals should be consulted with the City Attorney. Mr. Ward states that there
was a question in the past if administrative approvals were allowable per the
zoning ordinance or the bylaws. Mr. Worsham asks if staff could produce a
consent agenda in the case administrative approval is not allowed; staff replied
that she is happy to be proactive about producing the consent agenda. Staff states
the attorney definitely needs to be consulted in moving forward. Chair Battiston
states for the board to make motions on the administrative approvals, so that if the
attorney says it is okay staff can go ahead with the approvals.
i. Mr. Ward moved to allow staff to administratively approve signage
followed by a second from Ms. Wynn. The motion was approved
unanimously.
ii. Mr. Ward moved to allow staff to administratively approve paint colors
followed by a second from Ms. Wynn. The motion was approved
unanimously.
iii. Mr. Ward moved to allow staff to administratively approve COA renewals
with the condition that if there are any questions, staff bring the renewal to
the board followed by a second from Mr. Pradia. Mr. Gibson moved to
treat renewals as new applications followed by a second from Ms. Booty.
The motion fails 2-4. Chair Battiston called a voted for Mr. Ward’s
motion. The motion passed 4-2 with Ms. Booty and Mr. Worsham
opposing.
iv. Mr. Ward moved to allow staff to administratively approve fencing
followed by a second from Ms. Wynn. The motion passed 5-1 with Ms.
Booty opposing.
v. The description of in-kind repair to mean the replacement material is
identical in material, size, shape and form. Mr. Worsham moved to allow
staff to administratively approve in-kind repairs followed by a second with
Mr. Ward. The motion passed unanimously.
Ms. Booty asked if administrative approvals could be presented at board
meetings. Staff had no problem presenting administrative approvals.
b. NACA (Neighborhood Assistance Cooperation of America): Ms. Wynn shared
information on NACA and the news that they are opening an office in Richmond.
It is a group who helps homeowners with mortgages and renovation loans. Staff
will look into the organization to see what they can do to help Petersburg
residents.
c. Drawings, Specifications, Pictures: Ms. Booty asked what could be done to
make sure applicants have drawings. Mr. Ward asked if staff could be stricter
with application requirements and help guide the applicant until they have enough
documentation to be placed on the agenda. Staff stated they would better vet
applicants moving forward.
d. Saucy’s BBQ: Mr. Pradia asked about the shipping container temporary COA.
Staff stated they have a COA for the building, but staff would look into the
temporary COA for the shipping container. Mr. Pradia clarifies that he wishes
there was a mechanism in place to be reminded of temporary COAs.
10. WORK SESSION
11. ADJOURNMENT
With there being no further business, the meeting was adjourned by a motion from
Mr. Worsham and a second by Mr. Pradia. The motion passed unanimously, and the
meeting was adjourned at 9:03 p.m.
Agenda
City of Petersburg
Agenda
Architectural Review Board
Wednesday, April 9, 2014
Council Chambers, City Hall
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Review of Minutes
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Public Information Period
6. Request(s) for Certificate of Appropriateness:
a. 601 Grove Avenue (T.P. 010-05-0005) – Old Towne Historic District; Owner:
Margaret M. Byrne; Applicant: Sam Furman
Rock installation in front yard to serve as fencing
b. 313 Grove Avenue (T.P. 010-08-0006) – Old Towne Petersburg; Owner: Ruth Davis;
Applicant: Carnelia Hewlett and Jonathan Hewlett
Railings installed between rails of recessed porch on front elevation
c. 11 Centre Hill Court (T. P. 011-30-0009) – Centre Hill Historic District; Owner:
Horatio Williams; Applicant: Al K. Smith
Renovation of stucco siding, porch flooring, windows and roof
d. 702-08 Harrison Street (T. P. 031-20-0024) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Dogwood Town Homes, LLC; Applicant: Al K. Smith
Renovation to include rear annex and driveway improvements from the back alley
e. 712 Harrison Street (T. P. 031-20-0025) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
TheT’s ARE IN, LLC; Applicant: Al K. Smith
Renovation of main structure and addition at the rear
f. 623A Harrison Street (T. P. 031-19-0022) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Horatio Williams; Applicant: Al K. Smith
Demolition
g. 625-27 Harrison Street (T. P. 031-19-0021) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Horatio Williams; Applicant: Al K. Smith
Renovation to include windows, front porch
h. 212 S. Jones Street (T. P. 023-27-0003) – Folly Castle Historic District; Owner: James
Jackson; Applicant: Danielle Powell, Assistant City Attorney
Demolition
i. 216 S. Jones Street (T. P. 023-27-0004) – Folly Castle Historic District; Owner: James
Jackson; Applicant: Danielle Powell, Assistant City Attorney
Demolition
j. 215 Low Street (T. P. 010-10-0023) – Old Towne Historic District; Owner: Thomas
and Brenda Redfern; Applicant: same
Replace tongue-in-groove porch flooring with tongue-in-groove flooring; replace siding
with like materials
7. Old Business
8. New Business
9. Work Session
10. Adjournment
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