Architectural Review Board
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · May 9, 2018
Minutes
Architectural Review Board
City of Petersburg, Virginia
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
May 9, 2018 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, City Hall
135 N. Union Street, Petersburg VA 23803
Members Present:
Chair, Joe Battiston
Vice-Chair, Isaac Ward
Mitchell Pradia
Celeste Wynn
Dino Lunsford
Members Absent:
Larry Murphy
Gibson Worsham
Staff:
Secretary to the ARB Kate Sangregorio
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Joe Battiston called to order a regular meeting of the City of Petersburg
Architectural Review Board on Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 6:00 p.m. at Council
Chambers, City Hall, 135 N. Union Street, Petersburg, Virginia 23803.
2. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. REVIEW OF MINUTES
April 2018 Minutes were presented. Ms. Wynn moved to approve the minutes as
presented, followed by a second from Mr. Lunsford. The motion passed unanimously.
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion to approve the agenda as presented was approved unanimously.
5. PRESENTATION BY BOB OGLE
Bob Ogle, Director of HistoriCorps, which is part of the Poplar Lawn Revitalization
Project, came forward for a presentation on SecureView™ ClearBoarding, which
HistoriCorps is courting as a corporate sponsor. The product is stronger than plywood
and reusable as a vacant building boarding material. Part of the program is to use
Youth Corps; hiring high schoolers and veterans to train in preservation skills,
including the use of this product.
Chair Battiston questioned the cost, Mr Ogle stated that although it is more
expensive, because it is reusable it will be worth it. Mr. Battiston also questioned the
City’s Ordinances on the boarding of structures, Mr Ogle said the Ordinance may
have to be changed before ClearBoarding can be used. He stated that there will be a
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demonstration workshop on the Roger Pryor Campbell house. Mr Pradia asked if the
product was hurricane proof, it is.
Mr Ogle said that the program will also train EMTs on how to enter a home boarded
with the product. Mr Lunsford expressed his concern that the use of this would
prolong the repair of the property. Mr Battiston disagreed; the neighborhood will look
better and increase the desire to fix the area up. Mr Ogle said that even active
businesses use the product for nighttime security rather than metal bars.
6. PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD
Chair Battiston opened the Public Information Period to anyone who wished to speak
on any subject not on the agenda. With there being no comments, Chair Battiston
closed the Public Information Period.
7. REQUEST(S) FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS
Regular Agenda:
a. 315 High Street:
Applicant present; Christa Goodman. Staff recommended denial of the proposed
application on the grounds that it was too tall in relation to other fences in the
area.
At the April ARB Meeting, Mr Lunsford stated that he would be able to procure a
sample of the proposed fence to the following meeting so it could be better
reviewed, but he was not able to do this. Ms Goodman had already returned the
fencing that she purchased. Mr Lunsford asked if the fence was more for security
or decoration, Ms Goodman wants it for security. Mr Battiston expressed his
concern for the stability of the fence, siting the photos provided by staff of other
examples of the fence installed in Petersburg, possibly without ARB approval.
Mr Lunsford stated that the style was fine, but the stability was the worry, since it
is a no-dig fence. Ms Wynn questioned why the applicant couldn’t use a concrete
base, Ms Goodman said it would be more costly. Mr Battiston asked what Ms
Goodman would do if the fence starts leaning, she will take it out and put it back
in. Mr Pradia also expressed his concern with stability and asked how long the
stakes were; Ms Goodman said they are 10in long pounded into the ground, the
fence is 40in tall. Mr Battiston asked Mrs Peters the height requirements on
fences from a Zoning standpoint, she stated the max for front yards is 3 ½ feet (42
in).
Mr Battiston asked if anyone present would speak for or against the application.
Larry Gold, 319 High St, a next door neighbor of 315 High St, came forward. He
expressed his displeasure about the condition of the house on 315 High Street as a
whole; siding and bricks from the rear are falling off into his yard and raccoons
are living in the house. He said Ms Goodman should be using her money to fix
the house, rather than put up a fence.
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Mr Battiston asked if anyone else would speak for or against the application. John
Kennedy, 311 High St, came forward. He stated his agreement with Mr Gold’s
statements as 315 High St’s neighbor on the opposite side.
Mr Battiston asked if anyone else would speak for or against the application.
Karen Grahm, another resident of High Street, came forward. She stated that she
finds the fence inappropriate and cheap, and doesn’t think it’s fair to approve it
when there are other home owners who will spend the money for the real thing.
With no other public comment, Mr Battiston asked if the members of the Board
would be willing to go to Lowes individually to look at the product. Part of the
concern is that fences are being made cheaply and are looking cheaper as they go.
A motion was made by Mr Ward to defer the application until the next meeting,
when the applicant will bring a sample, along with directions. Mr Pradia
seconded, adding that Ms Goodman should also bring one of the stakes used.
Motion passed unanimously.
Mrs Peters added that the condition of the house as a whole was a Code
Enforcement issue, and they will work with the homeowner to bring the house to
compliance.
b. 133 South Market Street:
Applicant present, Richard Cuthbert. Staff recommended approval of proposed
application.
Mr. Cuthbert expressed an ultimate desire for uniformity in signs throughout his
owned buildings in the Courthouse area. Mr Battiston asked about any future
tenants in the building because the proposed signs may maximize his total allotted
sign area. Mr Cuthbert said there should be no more tenants and doesn’t plan for
any more signs.
No public comment.
Mr. Lunsford motioned to approve the application as submitted, seconded by Ms.
Wynn, the motion passed unanimously.
c. 228-230 Mercer Street:
The applicant was not present, a motion was made and approved unanimously to
move the application to the end of the agenda.
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d. 51 Corling Street:
Applicant present, Niles Goode. Staff recommended approval of the proposed
application.
Chair Battiston asked if Mr Goode knew the construction year, he did not. Mr
Goode stated that BLM Co wants the shed down to increase the value. He also
said that the roof is sagging and the whole thing is full of junk, there are no
utilities to it. While the front is faced in brick, the rest is wood. Mr Battiston
asked if it was attached to the house, it is not. Mr Battiston also asked if there
would be any damage to the house if the shed is taken down, there will not be.
Chair Battiston asked if anyone would like to speak for or against the application.
Erica and Simon Joseph Kierulf, 215 Low Street, came forward in support of the
application, stating that the shed is an eyesore.
No further public comment.
Mr Lunsford mentioned that noncontributing structures are easier to take down.
Mr Pradia asked what would be put in its place, Mr Goode said nothing, just a
nice yard.
Motion made by Mr Ward to approve the application, seconded by Mr Pradia,
motion passed unanimously.
Mr Battiston added that the applicant will need the necessary demolition permits
through Code.
e. 227 St Andrew Street:
Applicant present, Robert Dance. Staff recommended denial of the proposed
application.
Mr Battiston asked how long the applicant has owned the property; Mr Dance
said at least 10 years. He stated that he had tried to begin work, but found half the
house to be irreparable from termite damage in the wood, he also tried gutting it
but there was too much damage already done. Mr Dance stated that when Charlie
Townes did his Structural Engineer Report he was very concerned.
Mr Battiston stated that the City Ordinances require the house be put for sale,
however the back of the house needs shoring, he recommended following
procedure and getting documentation and drawings because it is an unusual and
unique structure. Mr Dance stated that he has a game-plan and an architect for the
drawings.
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Mr Lunsford said it’s neat and distinct but too far gone. Mr Battiston asked its
condition when it was purchased. Mr Dance said there was a lot of vegetation and
water damage. Mr Battiston said that ivy causes worse damage to a house than
water. Mr Dance said that ivy is under the siding. Mr Pradia asked what his plan
was, if he was willing to sell the house. Mr Dance said he would think about it.
No public comment.
Motion made by Mr Lunsford to deny the application, the owner must go through
Code to stabilize it. Motion seconded by Ms Wynn, motion passed unanimously.
f. 329 St Andrew Street:
Applicant present; Robert Dance. Staff recommended approval of the application.
Mr Dance said that he has used this siding on two properties in Centre Hill Court.
He stated that the inside of the house is good and so is the electric work; he’s
already used some of the siding on the house around the new electric box, and
will only replace siding as needed with the sample provided.
Mr Ward questioned the rest of the house; like the roof. Mr Dance said that he
will come back for approval for the rest of the work, just siding and paint right
now.
No public comment.
Motion to approve made by Mr Ward; seconded by Mr Lunsford. Motion
approved unanimously.
g. 241 Mercer Street:
Applicant present; Robert Dance. Staff recommends approval of the application.
Mr Battiston asked if the same sample provided on the last application would be
used for this, Mr Dance said yes. He stated that the inside of the house is good,
someone is living in it.
Mr Battiston suggested that Mr Dance look into taking the ClearBoarding
installation classes because he has so many properties. Mr Dance questioned the
expense and stated that his houses are secure.
Motion to approve made by Mr Ward, seconded by Mr Lunsford. Motion passed
unanimously.
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h. 1021 W High Street:
Applicant present, William Fitzhugh. Staff recommended approval of the
application.
Mr Battiston asked if the supports on the porch were temporary, Mr Fitzhugh said
that they would be replaced. He also said that the back of the house was down and
most of the windows were remade. Mr Battiston questioned if he kept them the
same 2 over 2, he did.
Motion to approve was made by Ms Wynn, seconded by Mr Lunsford. Motion
passed unanimously.
i. 215 Low Street
Applicants present, Erica and Simon Joseph Kierulf. Staff recommended approval
of the application.
Mr Battiston explained that the application was requested to be brought before the
Board, rather than go through staff’s administrative approval, because there were
more than two colors proposed. The standard has been to administratively
approve paint only if it’s two colors or less plus a roof color; the Board wants to
keep things fair between applications. Ms Wynn said that the green color brought
out the details on the house trim, and Mr Battiston commented that it was subtle.
Motion to approve made by Mr Ward, seconded by Mr Pradia. Motion passed
unanimously.
c. 228-230 Mercer Street
Applicant still not present. Mr Battiston said that because he included his mortar
formula in the application, and it is what the Petersburg design guidelines
recommend, that the board could review the application in his absence.
Motion to approve the application approved unanimously.
6. OLD BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
Mrs Peters announced that May is National Historic Preservation Month, and she
invited the ARB to come to the City Council meeting on Tuesday the 15th for a
short presentation about it.
Mr Battiston presented some standing seam metal roof samples he recieved from
a contractor and used them to explain why the old rolled over style of ridgecap
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cannot be used any longer; the panels are made of steel and bending them in such
a way would damage the panels and the paint, voiding the warranty. There are
low and high profile ridgecaps available; the low caps, such as what was approved
for Mr Murphy’s building on 233 N Sycamore and the Southside Depot.
Mr Battiston also said the board should make a decision on what size panel is
ideal. Mr Lunsford stated that the board has approved 16in – 18in panels in the
past. Mr Battiston preferred if the panels did not go over 16in, but DHR should be
consulted. Mr Lunsford mentioned that the high style ridgecaps are a way to vent
the building, Mr Battiston said there are other ways to do that. Mr Lunsford
explained that older buildings have lasted so long because they were built looser
to allow moisture in and out, but modern buildings are built too tightly and don’t
allow this.
8. ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS
9. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Ms Wynn. The motion
passed unanimously and the meeting was adjourned.
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Agenda
Agenda
Architectural Review Board
Wednesday, May 9, 2018
Council Chambers, City Hall
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Review of Minutes
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Presentation by Bob Ogle
SecureView™ ClearBoarding: a clear, polycarbonate, board-up securing system for vacant
properties that is a new, innovative product.
5. Public Information Period
6. Request(s) for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Regular Agenda:
a. 315 High Street (T.P. 010-21-0027) – Old Towne Historic District; Owner; Christa
Goodman; Applicant: Same
Install wrought iron style fencing across front yard on both sides. There will be a gate at the
entrance sidewalk and one at the back sidewalk running along the side of the property. This is
a no-dig project with samples attached.
b. 229 N Sycamore Street (T.P. 011-22-0012) – Courthouse Historic District; Owner: 229
North Sycamore LLC; Applicant: Richard Cuthbert
New signage: one “hanging blade” sign to hang from existing metal arm on the front of the
building, and one plaque style sign beside the side entrance.
c. 228-230 Mercer Street (T.P 021-05-0002) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Arthur Capuano; Applicant: Same
Repointing brick where necessary.
d. 51 Corling Street (T.P. 031-08-0015) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner BLM
Companies LLC; Applicant: Niles Groope
BLM Co is to demolish rear shed, which faces Harrison Street, for HUD.
e. 227 St Andrew Street (T.P. 022-27-0016) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Applicant:
Robert Dance; Owner: Same
Demolition.
f. 329 St Andrew Street (T.P. 022-04-0007) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Applicant:
Robert Dance; Owner: Same
Replace siding where necessary with pine, 5 ½ inch width, with ½ inch to be covered by the
board above, and ½ inch thickness. Siding to be painted Behr Premium Plus Ultra Pure White.
g. 241 Mercer Street (T.P. 021-04-0009) – Poplar Lawn Historic District; Applicant: Robert
Dance; Owner: Same
Replace siding where necessary with pine, 5 ½ inch width, with ½ inch to be covered by the
board above, and ½ inch thickness. Siding to be painted Behr Premium Plus Ultra Pure White.
h. 1021 W High Street (T.P. 024-07-0035)- Battersea/West High Street Historic District;
Applicant: Petersburg Revival, LLC; Owner: William Fitzhugh
Renovation; repair/replace in-kind: windows, siding, roof, brick foundation
i. 215 Low Street (T.P. 10-10-0023)- Old Towne Historic District; Applicant: Simon Joseph
and Eric Kierulf; Owner: Same.
Paint colors and door stain.
7. Old Business
8. New Business
9. Work Session
10. Adjournment
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