Architectural Review Board
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · July 11, 2018
Minutes
Architectural Review Board
City of Petersburg, Virginia
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
July 11, 2018 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, City Hall
135 N. Union Street, Petersburg VA 23803
Members Present:
Chair, Joe Battiston
Mitchell Pradia
Larry Murphy
Celeste Wynn
Dino Lunsford
Members Absent:
Vice-Chair, Isaac Ward
Gibson Worsham
Staff:
Secretary to the ARB, Kate Sangregorio
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Joe Battiston called to order a regular meeting of the City of Petersburg
Architectural Review Board on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 6:00 p.m. at Council
Chambers, City Hall, 135 N. Union Street, Petersburg, Virginia 23803.
2. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. REVIEW OF MINUTES
June 2018 Minutes were presented. Mr Pradia moved to approve the minutes as
presented, followed by a second from Ms Wynn. The motion passed unanimously.
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr Pradia asked if anything could be moved to the consent agenda, staff suggested
item D. because the application was only for paint. However, because it was a change
in paint colors it had to be reviewed in the regular agenda. It was clarified that staff
could only administratively approve paint if it was two colors or less. Ms Wynn
withdrew her motion to move item D. to the consent agenda. Mr Pradia moved to
approve the agenda as originally submitted, seconded by Mr Lunsford; the motion
passed unanimously.
5. PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD
Chair Battiston opened the Public Information Period to anyone who wished to speak
on any subject not on the agenda. With there being no comments, Chair Battiston
closed the Public Information Period.
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6. REQUEST(S) FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS
Regular Agenda:
a. 33 D’Arcy Street:
Applicant present; Billy Mabry. Staff recommended denial of the proposed
application.
Mr Mabry stated that it was true there was no phone number on the “for sale” sign
on the house, however the house did have “for sale” sign in the yard for 7 or 8
years but it was taken down.
Mr Battison asked that the applicant ask the property owner to formally put the
house on the market so it could have a chance for someone to restore it. Mr
Battiston also explained that the lower the asking price, the shorter the time it
would need to be on the market, and everyone who wants to demolish has to go
through the same process.
Mr Mabry asked if the owner would need an agent, Mr Battiston stated that they
couldn’t dictate that, but the house would need a clear sign with a working phone
number at least. Mr Mabry asked the time schedule for sale, and staff clarified this
for him.
Mr Mabry asked if he could take down the house’s porches because they were a
danger to pedestrians, and said the chimney was dangerous as well. Mr Battsiton
stated that they could not allow the side porch to come down because it was too
far from the sidewalk to be a danger to pedestrians. Mr Pradia asked who stated
that the porches were dangerous, and Mr Mabry said it came in a letter from the
Code Compliance department. Ms. Wynn asked the applicant if he had talked
with Code about this, he said that he hadn’t really because he needed a COA to do
anything. Mr Lunsford asked if the house was an eminent danger, staff stated it
was probably a repair or demolish letter. Mr Battiston confirmed that the
applicant wanted to secure the house for safety by removing the front porch and
the loose bricks on the chimney.
There was no public comment.
A motion was made by Mr Lunsford to remove the loose brick on the chimney to
roof level, remove the front porch, and put the house up for sale based on the time
schedule in the Zoning Ordinance. Ms Wynn seconded the motion, and the
motion passed unanimously.
b. 18 Perry Street:
Representative present. Staff recommended approval of proposed application.
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Mr Battiston asked the materials for the side porch and the representative wasn’t
sure. Mr Battiston stated that whoever does know must confirm its
appropriateness with staff.
No public comment.
Motion made by Mr Lunsford to approve the application as long as the materials
to be used are confirmed with staff to follow the material guidelines. Mr Pradia
seconded the motion, it passed unanimously.
c. 116 Liberty Street:
Applicants not present.
Ms Wynn motioned to move the application to the end of the agenda, motion
seconded by Mr Lunsford. Motion passed unanimously.
d. 115 N. Sycamore Street:
Applicant present, Kristofer Haase. Staff recommended approval of the proposed
application.
The paint samples were passed around by the board members for review.
No public comment.
A motion was made by Mr Pradia to approve the proposed application, seconded
by Ms Wynn. Motion passed unanimously.
e. 305-307 N. West Street:
Applicant present, Claiborne M. Stamos. Staff recommended approval of the
proposed application.
Mr Battiston clarified the area of the house to be removed, and that the area left
open would be covered with like and kind siding. Mr Stamos confirmed that he
would save as much of the siding as possible from the area to be removed to use
as siding for the remainder of the house. Mr Battiston stated that the board should
approve the siding at that meeting to not hold the applicant up for another month
because there probably wouldn’t be enough salvaged siding to cover the area
completely.
No public comment.
Motion made by Ms Wynn to approve the application with the provision of the
siding, seconded by Mr Lunsford. Motion passed unanimously.
f. 231 N. Sycamore Street:
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Applicant present, Tracy Allen. Staff recommended approval of the proposed
application.
Mr Battiston confirmed that there are new colors on the building from the time the
previous sign was approved.
No public comment.
Motion to approve the application made by Ms Wynn seconded by Mr Pradia.
Motion passed unanimously.
g. 422 High Street:
Applicant present; Michael Allshouse. Staff recommended approval of the
application.
Mr Murphy arrived for the meeting.
The board members questioned location of the wall in relation to the building, and
if materials would be salvaged for its construction. Mr Pradia asked if the wall
would be permanent, Mr Allshouse confirmed that it would be. Mr Battiston
questioned window placement; it would be a solid wall with no windows. Mr
Pradia asked if the jagged remains of the side wall would be cut, Mr Allshouse
stated that the wall would be made flat.
Mr Battiston opened the floor for public comment; citizens came forward to
confirm where this project would be located and that it would not be new
construction.
Motion to approve the application made by Mr Pradia with the addition of
removing the damaged portions of wall. Motion seconded by Ms Wynn. Motion
passed, with Mr Murphy abstaining due to his late arrival during the discussion.
h. 12 N. Sycamore Street:
Applicants present, Andrew and Debbie Campbell. Staff could not make an
informed recommendation due to lack of information in the application.
The applicants brought forward an SD card with more information on the project,
however staff did not have the appropriate technology to display this.
Mrs Campbell asked what they would need to bring in to have enough
information for approval. Mr Battiston stated that they would need specific
dimensions and materials to be used. Mr Lunsford said that proposed elevations
would be ideal.
Mr Battiston asked what would be done to the second floor of the front façade;
Mr Campbell stated they would like to cover it in perforated metal sheathing, and
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Mrs Campbell asked if a metal sample should be brought in; the board agreed that
physical samples would be best.
No public comment.
Motion to defer the application to the next meeting was made by Mr Lunsford,
seconded by Mr Murphy. Motion passed unanimously.
i. / j. 702-708 and 712 Harrison Street
Applicant present, Al Smith. Staff could not make an informed recommendation
due to lack of information in the application.
Mr Smith presented drawings to better explain his plans. He stated that he did not
have as detailed plans for 702-708 Harrsion because he would like to start on 712
first.
Mr Battiston stated that the level of detail and ornateness in the designs for 702-
708 Harrison may not be appropriate. Mr Murphy suggested that the applicant
look for old photos for reference, possibly at the Petersburg Library, it would also
be helpful to have the buildings floor plans and elevations, and to use materials
common in the early 1900s. Mr Smith stated that there were problems with a tree
on 708 Harrison, and it might need to be rebuilt in steel. The building needs t obe
maintained to prevent further deterioration.
The applicant also expressed a desire to do cosmetic front yard landscaping.
Mr Battiston asked if the roof would be repaired, Mr Smith stated it would. The
option for use of synthetic slate was possible. Mr Smith said that he was told he
could salvage good slate from the back of the roof and use it on the front, and just
synthetic on the back.
Mr Battiston suggested that the application be piecemealed. He questioned what
bricks would be used for the fence/wall, Mr Smith said they would be salvaged
from demolitions. Were the decorative balls on the walls concrete? Mr Smith said
they were actually lights. Mr Battiston asked staff for regulations on lights, staff
did not believe there were any. Mr Battiston asked that the lights be brought in as
a sample before they can be approved. Ms Wynn asked if the bricks in the wall
would be from the interior or exterior of buildings, because they have different
properties; a sample of the proposed bricks should be presented.
Mr Lunsford stated that samples should be brought for everything planned. Ms
Wynn agreed, and listed slate, brick, and lighting as examples. Mr Battsiton stated
that the more samples provided, the less Mr Smith would have to come back for
approval.
Mr Murphy asked if the wood picket fence on 712 would be taken down, Mr
Smith stated he would like something more durable, Mr Murphy stated that the
house might have historically had the wooden fence.
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Ms Wynn stated that the priority now should be working on making the houses
dry.
No public comment.
Motion was made by Mr Lunsford to repair the roof framing to dry the inside, and
for the applicant to bring samples of remaining work. Motion seconded by Mr
Pradia, motion passed unanimously.
Mr Battiston suggested the applicant look at similar houses for reference.
Motion made by Mr Murphy to defer the application to the next meeting,
seconded by Ms Wynn. Motion passed unanimously.
k. 111 Central Park
Applicant present, Bruce Noe. Staff recommended approval of the application.
Mr Battiston stated that the application was pretty self-explanatory.
No public comment.
Motion to approve made by Mr Murphy, seconded by Ms Wynn. Motion passed
unanimously.
c. 116 Liberty Street
Applicant still not present.
Mr Murphy motioned to defer the application to the next meeting, seconded by
Mr Lunsford. Motion passed unanimously.
6. OLD BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
Megan Harman from Pella Windows
Ms Harman came forward to present their line of Architectural Reserve line,
which is historically accurate and has been given the O.K. by the National Park
Service. Mr Battiston asked if they were wood inside and out, Ms Harman said yes,
that is required for buildings under 3 floors. She stated that simulated divided light is
O.K. by the NPS.
Mr Lunsford asked if they sold just sash kits, Ms Harman did not think so, that
wouldn’t be under warranty.
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Mr Battiston said they would like to give people another choice other than Trim
Line, and would like to see something that proves the NPS’s satisfaction with the
product to keep with staff.
Ms Harman stated they have competitive pricing for high quality vs. Trim Line.
It takes 3-4 weeks to make the windows.
Considerations for the construction of Tiny Houses
Staff presented a write-up of the Guideline’s relevant information that would
concern Tiny Houses, in regards to new construction, scale, massing, materials, and
being compatible with the character of the district.
Mr Battiston stated that tiny houses between the larger houses on High Street
would be an eye-sore. He also stated that he doesn’t like very new looking houses
amongst the historic houses, it would be easier in a non-contributing area or an area
that already has small houses.
Mr Lunsford stated that tiny houses as trailers would not be appropriate.
8. ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS
9. ADJOURNMENT
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Agenda
Agenda
Architectural Review Board
Wednesday, July 11, 2018
Council Chambers, City Hall
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Review of Minutes
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Public Information Period
a. Megan Harman from Pella Windows to present their historic window line
6. Request(s) for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Regular Agenda:
a. 33 D’Arcy Street (T.P. 031-06-0011)- Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner: Kim
McCoy Smith; Applicant: Billy Mabry
Demolition.
b. 18 Perry Street (T.P. 023-16-0009) – Folly Castle Historic District; Owner: Petersburg
Revival LLC; Applicant: William Fitzhugh
Renovation; repair/replace in-kind materials where necessary, reconstruct side porch based
on physical and photographic evidence, install gutters.
c. 116 Liberty Street (T.P. 022-31-0009) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner: Ting-Yi
Oei and Diane Curling; Applicant: Same
Fencing around property: 4’ high in front with gate, 4’6” high on east side, 5’ high on rear
with drive through gate; post spacing 8’ to 10’
d. 115 N. Sycamore Street (T.P.011-26-0022)- Courthouse Historic District; Owner:
Kristofer Haase; Applicant: Same
Paint.
e. 305-307 N. West Street (T.P. 023-06-0008) – Folly Castle Historic District; Owner:
Claiborne M. Stamos; Applicant: Same
Demolish partially collapsed rear dining room and bathroom addition, leaving kitchen
outbuilding.
f. 231 N Sycamore Street (T.P. 011-23-0013) – Courthouse Historic District; Owner;
Richard Cuthbert; Applicant: B. Tracy Allen
Install sign.
g. 422 High Street (T.P. 010-20-0013) – Old Towne Historic District; Owner HLS LLC;
Applicant: Michael E Allshouse
Rebuild end wall due to fire damage.
h. 12 N. Sycamore Street (T.P. 011-25-0027) Courthouse Historic District; Owner: KXC
Enterprises; Applicant: Same
Renovation of storefront.
i. 702-08 Harrison Street (T.P. 031-20-0024) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Dogwood Townhomes LLC; Applicant: Same
Restore/ repair
j. 712 Harrison Street (T.P. 011-25-0027) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner:
Dogwood Townhomes LLC; Applicant: Same
Restore/ repair.
k. 111 Central Park (T.P. 022-06-0019) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner: Bruce Noe;
Applicant: Same
Paint, install fence, arbor, and brick walkway.
7. Old Business
8. New Business
Administrative Approvals:
a. 231 N Sycamore- install sign with previously approved design
b. 237 N Sycamore- install sign with previously approved design
c. 411 Cockade Alley- paint door red
Consideration for design preferences in terms of new “Tiny House” construction in
Historic Districts
9. Work Session
10. Adjournment
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