Planning Commission
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · February 3, 2022
Minutes
City of Petersburg
Planning Commission Meeting
February 3, 2022
Minutes
The City of Petersburg Planning Commission meeting held on Thursday, February 3, 2022,
virtually was called to order by the Chair, Mrs. Tammy Alexander at 6:06 p.m. A roll call was
completed by Ms. Michelle Murrills.
Members Present: Ms. Tammy Alexander, Chair
Mr. Fenton Bland, Vice Chair
Ms. Marie Vargo
Mr. Thomas Hairston
Ms. Candy Taylor
Mr. Michael Edwards
Dr. James Norman
Members Absent: Dr. William Irvin
A Quorum was established by the Chair.
Others Present: Mr. Reginald Tabor, Ms. Michelle Murrills, City Manager Stuart Turille, Ms.
Tangela Innis, Chief Travis Christian, and Loise Locket Gordon.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Chair Alexander called for any changes…there were none
Commissioner Hairston moved approval of the agenda; Commissioner Vargo seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously.
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Minutes:
Chair Alexander asked for the spelling of a name to be checked and otherwise then Vice-Chair
Bland moved for the adoption of the Minutes from the January 20, 2022, meeting;
Commissioner Vargo seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Public Information Period:
Chair Alexander opened the Public Information Period to anyone who wished to speak on an
item not on the agenda. No one chose to speak and so the Chair closed the public information
period.
Public Hearings:
Chair Alexander read the notice of a public hearing as follows:
6a. 22-CPA-01: A resolution recommending approval of amendments to the City's
Comprehensive Plan to comply with the Chesapeake Bay Preservation Act.
Mr. Tabor then said that there are still a few outstanding items that will need approval from the
Department of the Environment Quality and therefore the Planning Department requests that this
public hearing be continued to the March meeting.
Chair Alexander then called for a motion to continue it to the March meeting. Commissioner
Hairston motioned and Commissioner Vargo seconded. It passed unanimously.
6b. 22-REZ-02: A petition to rezone property located 801 S Adams St, TP: 031300002, from RB,
Office-Apartment District, to MXD-3, Mixed Use District. The property is 24.02 acres.
Ms. Robinson then made the presentation.
This is a request to rezone said property which was formerly the cite of the Regional Southside
Center. It is at the corner of S. Sycamore Street and Graham rd. This includes Apollo St. It is
addressed at 801 S. Adams St. This property has been vacant since it was obtained by the City
back in 2013. The former hospital site is an opportunity for positive redevelopment efforts to
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take place along this portion of South Sycamore Street. Any use permitted in the MXD-3 Mixed
Use District are intended to:
A. Encourage appropriate commercial industrial activity.
B. Encourage compatibility of existing and future land uses.
This would include offices, clinics, colleges, schools, or any use other than any residential use or
any objectionable use as defined by Article 18, Section 3 of this Ordinance, but only is allowed
by a special use permit.
Surrounding conditions: This land now is zoned for apartments because when the hospital was
there, the hospital was wanting to provide facilities for the employees of the hospital, such as
doctors and nurses and such and so it was zoned that way for them. The area does take in the
Poplar Lawn Historic District, but the subject property is not directly in the historic district, but
it is located within an Enterprise Zone.
Staff findings:
A. The 2014 Comprehensive Plan designates the subject property for community facilities
usage and surrounding property for business/professional, general commercial and low
intensity residential purposes.
B. The property is currently designated as “R-B”, Office-Apartment District which permits
residential, medical and specialty facilities, business offices, etc. as by-right uses and with
parking located in the rear yard and that portion of a side yard not adjacent to a street, if a
corner lot.
C. The uses mentioned under the newly proposed zoning district will encourage appropriate
and compatible commercial and industrial activities and remained in keeping with the
existing and future land uses. If need be, conditions will be imposed on a potential
developer by the City prior to the issuance of a building permit and as per the City's
development review team standards to protect the residents and neighboring
communities/businesses. Screening will be required per Section 8 of the MXD-3
regulations.
D. It is not believed that the proposed location will pose a burden to the existing
neighborhood or property owners as the existing property owners and businesses have
been operating in this capacity for more than 30 years.
E. The noise of any potential business use permitted, is expected to be low, and no change in
the current noise level is expected at the property boundaries.
F. The city of Petersburg is proposing to reuse vacant property and make it marketable for
suitable development which would provide tax dollars to the city, in addition to, cleaning
up a predominantly vacant parcel of land and will encourage other owners to reinvest in
their properties and the community.
G. As of the preparation of this report, our office had not received any public input or
concerns about the request.
H. The subject parcel of land is located within the Enterprise Zone, which offers tax benefits.
The Department of Economic Development office maintains a listing of potential sites, and
facilities for potential employers and developers looking to expand or relocate operations.
They also manage the enterprise zones located within the city which allows the city to offer
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state and local incentives to industries which locate new operations to designated areas.
The Industrial Development Authority (IDA) is part of the office.
Chair Alexander then asked if the commissioners had any questions for staff. Commissioner
Hairston wanted to know if anyone had reached out to the council person and if they were on
board with us moving this to a mixed use? Vice-Chair Bland said that he had spoken to one City
Council member, and he is.
Chair Alexander then asked if anyone from the public was in favor of the rezoning. There was
no one. So, she then asked if there was anyone in opposition to the rezoning. Hearing none,
she then closed the public hearing portion. She then asked the commissioners if there was
anything they wanted to say.
Commissioner Bland thought that it would be a great thing to piggyback onto what is going on
at the industrial park. Chair Alexander then said that she agreed with Commissioner Bland.
Commissioner Vargo said that this was a thoughtful use of using the MXD 3. Commissioner
Taylor also agreed that this is the perfect that to put that land to good use. Commissioner
Hairston did say that he wanted to be sure to keep the historic appearance of the
neighborhood and that the aesthetic of the neighborhood wasn’t changed. Commissioner
Norman also agreed to both that this is a great idea and that the historical portion of the
neighborhood should not be changed.
Staff recommendation: Staff recommends approval of the proposed use.
Chair Alexander then called for a motion. Vice Chair Bland moved that the commission move
forward in the proposal of rezoning and getting it zoned correctly so that we can advertise it
and offer it up for sale. Commissioner Hairston seconded it. The motion passed unanimously.
6c. City Code Amendment 2021-01: Consideration of amendments to the City of Petersburg
Code of Ordinances, Chapter 50. Environment Article II. Noise and recommendations to the
City Council. The presentation was then given by the City Manager, Mr. Stuart Turille.
Noise ordinance recommendation. The proposed Planning Commission revision to the current
noise ordinance for business use is day 65-75 and night 55-65. The revision also clarifies that
noise is not allowed between hours of 11pm and 7am in area which “residential dwellings are
permitted…that is heard inside the confines of residential or multi-family dwelling of another
person.”
Facts:
• Some restaurants in the downtown want to stay open and provide entertainment later
in the evening and early morning.
• Visitors and residents, primarily younger folks, come to the downtown to attend late
night activities.
• Residents do live downtown and hear the music, sometimes calling police to enforce the
current noise ordinance.
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• The City is undergoing a revitalization, with more businesses and activities in Old Town
and the downtown. More activities are in the works.
• In recognition of the need for more planning and regulation, the City is embarking upon
a Downtown Master Plan to understand more clearly what downtown businesses and
restaurants want for the area.
• Unlike many cities of a similar size, such as Harrisonburg, Staunton and Fredericksburg,
the city has no downtown business district or central business district.
• These cities do have downtown districts, which allow different noise ordinance
standards downtown, than for surrounding residential area.
• For instance, Staunton provides an “Entertainment area exception to the noise
ordinance, allowing 80 decibels from 11:30 PM to 7:00 AM.”
• the ordinance spells out clearly the entertainment area so designated, in the core
downtown area.
• From City of Fredericksburg, “The City’s Noise Ordinance is found in City Code Chapter
38, Environment, Article II, noise. 38-31 and following. The ordinance defines the
“Downtown Business District'' as “The area bounded by the Rappahannock River, Amelia
Street, Prince Edward Street, and Lafayette Blvd.” Noise restrictions in the Downtown
Business District are less restrictive than in other areas of the City, reflecting Council's
judgement that a higher level of noise downtown is generally acceptable.”
ANALYSIS:
• The planning commission's ordinance revision of 55 indoor 65 outdoor decibels offers
little from the current ordinance of 65 decibels at night.
• The ordinance is appropriate outside downtown citywide. In my view, it is correct for
primarily residential areas but it's too restrictive on evening/late night activities in the
central downtown. If the city wants to encourage downtown as a central meeting place
for late night activity.
• Economic development professional training emphasizes the need for a vital downtown
as the core of a city's economic vitality. Nightlife could be considered a component of
economic vitality. I view my position as encouraging economic development of the city.
• Since we have no downtown Central Business district to reference in the noise
ordinance, perhaps we may consider designating an entertainment zone overlay, or
designation of an area, to allow a different noise standard than the one that applies
citywide.
• A separate entertainment standard would, in my view, allow some late-night latitude to
the citywide ordinance, but scaling down limits as the night progresses, to allow
surrounding residents rest.
• An ordinance that spells out the expectations would clarify the rules and allow for
clearer enforcement.
• With more entertainment events planned for downtown, this issue is not going away
and should be addressed now. The problem, without an adaption, will not be solved but
continue unless we resolve it proactively with expectations that we can all live with.
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• What is the balance between entertainment and residential need? Models exist
elsewhere and can be adapted here.
RECOMMENDATIONS:
• Research a possible entertainment area, with a clear area of designation, with a
different allowable noise standard. This may take the form of an ordinance change or
zoning overlay.
• Any new decibel standards should not be considered as a free pass for businesses to
create excessive noise but clarify what is and is not acceptable in such a designated
area.
• The ordinance should seek a balance between entertainment and residential use in the
downtown.
• Request three volunteers from the Planning Commission to work with the Planning
Director and myself to pursue this option by the next March Planning Commission
meeting. Spring is around the corner, and we should move quickly.
• We should also listen to what downtown residents and businesses want, as indicated by
the Downtown Master Plan, as we proceed.
• The right time is now, more activity will occur again as the city and downtown grows.
Let's work together to find a successful resolution, which, while perhaps not meeting
everybody's ideal is realistic, workable, and feasible.
Mr. Turille then said the next step should be to find out who was going to meet with he and Mr.
Tabor and work on the entertainment area option. Commissioner Hairston then said that he
had already met with Mr. Tabor and had presented an entertainment overlay a while ago. Mr.
Tabor said that yes that information was available, and he also wanted to remind Chair
Alexander that this was advertised as a public hearing and that a motion would be needed to
table this discussion until the next meeting in March.
Commissioner Hairston then made the motion that the Commission postpone the public
hearing until the subcommittee is put together. Commissioner Vargo seconded. The motion
passed unanimously.
Chair Alexander then put together the subcommittee consisting of herself, Commissioner
Hairston, and Commissioner Vargo.
7. Old Business:
7a. Draft Text Amendments
Draft Text Amendments:
a. Chapter 110. Traffic and Vehicles, Article VIII. Bicycles; Mopeds. Division 1. Generally.
Section 110-356. Sec. 110-356. - Riding of bicycles on sidewalks prohibited. No person, except
a law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties, shall Any person may ride
any bicycle on any sidewalk if there are no dedicated bicycle facilities (i.e. bicycle lanes, trails,
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etc.) and street speeds are higher than 25 miles per hour. Bicyclists must dismount and walk
their bicycle while passing a pedestrian when there is not sufficient space to safely pass while
riding.
Director Tabor then asked Louis Lockett Gordon to speak about this amendment. She is the
director of Bike/Walk RVA. The spirit of this amendment is to make bicycles on the sidewalk
less restrictive. State law does allow for bicycles on the sidewalk, but local ordinances can
make it illegal. According to Virginia State Law if the City of Petersburg decides to make riding
bikes on certain sidewalks illegal, then they will have to put signage out to say that riding on
this or that sidewalk is illegal. She also said that another thing to think about is that it can be
restrictive to bike riders if Petersburg does make it illegal. The spirit of this new amendment is
to make bike riding easier for everyone and that it would be better if bike riders were allowed
to ride on sidewalks everywhere and not just those in areas over 25 MPH.
Commissioner Hairston then made an observation that older people have spoken to him, and
they do NOT want anyone to be allowed to walk on the sidewalk. They are too afraid of being
run over and that young people do not observe the law anyways, so they are not going to get
off their bike to walk past people walking on the sidewalk but instead are just going to push
them down riding past them. He asked then 1. How are we going to inform the bike riders? 2.
How are we going to enforce the new rule? 3. And what would be the punishment?
Commissioner Vargo then said there are a lot of people out on the sidewalk, and she really
wants to make sure that everyone is safe. She does not want to see bike riders on the
sidewalks.
Chair Alexander then asked what action do we need to take on this tonight and Director Tabor
then stated that nothing was needed tonight that there would be a public hearing scheduled at
a later date.
7B. Chapter 110. Traffic and Vehicles, Article VIII. Bicycles; Mopeds. Division 1. Generally.
Section 110-356. Sec. 110-371. - Required. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate or
use a bicycle or moped upon any of the streets, alleys, or public highways of the city, without
first obtaining a certificate of registration from the chief of police. Any person may register also
obtain a certificate of registration for a bicycle. (Code 1981, § 7-16)
There will be a public hearing scheduled for this as well.
8. New business:
8A. Nightclubs—Chief of Police.
Chair Alexander asked Chief Christian if he had a presentation or anything for the Commission. He said
that he did not but that he was there to lend himself to any discussion about night clubs. Director Tabor
then asked Commissioner Hairston if he had anything he would like to share.
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Commissioner Hairston then said basically as the city moves forward, we have some things that we need
to clearly define. Nightclubs being one of them. Commissioner Hairston went on to say that he wanted
to know just what was the scale of problems that Petersburg has with their nightclubs. He asked Chief
Christian is it a massive scope of a problem or is there a problem from a police department point of
view. Chief Christian then said that from an enforcement standpoint, it is hard to enforce the laws
because there is not a clearly defined line between a restaurant and a nightclub. There are so many
loopholes in there that at times of trying to enforce anything, it becomes difficult because you have to
be mindful of the different parts of the ordinance that supports nightclubs vs restaurants. What we
have here in Petersburg are businesses that operate as restaurants up until a certain time and then after
a certain time at night, the lights dim, the music goes on and that’s then when it becomes what we
would look at as a traditional night club. But because there is no clear distinction as to what
exactly a nightclub is, it is hard to enforce. Chief Christian is hoping to help the city to define
what is a restaurant and what is a nightclub so that the police are better able to enforce the
laws that are on the books.
Chair Alexander then thanked the Chief and said that she too thought that it would be great if
the city could have concrete definitions so that we can police them better. She said that
everyone needs to look at it coolly and calmly and come up with some real guidelines. At a
certain hour you are no longer a restaurant, you are a nightclub. We need that to administer
everything correctly and take care of things.
Commissioner Hairston then said that he has done a TON of research and he thinks that the
Commission should put together a committee with the Police Chief, the Fire Chief, a
representative from two restaurants, and someone from Planning, to discuss these definitions.
He also said that he spoke with the nighttime mayor of Washington DC and asked him how DC
dealt with all the same issues. The mayor said that DC did was to make the process harder. It is
almost a 26-page application to become a nightclub in DC. You have to submit a security plan
and you have to define what your security plan is and how you are going to have and use
enforcement. You then have to identify who the owners are and where they got their money.
Because in DC they were seeing that a lot of people who wanted to run a club were getting
money from places that the city did not want money to come from. So, you have to clearly
identify who the owners are and verify their funds. He thinks that Petersburg should look
closely at DC’s process and really go in and try to make our process very hard and who ever can
go through the application process gets to have a nightclub and it is fair across the board. The
city is growing, and it is up to the commission to set the rules so that the city can grow
responsibly, but yet equitably across the city and not just in Old Towne. Then when there are
issues, it becomes more of a zoning matter than a police matter. The Chief of police should not
be decided if a business is a restaurant or a nightclub.
Both Chair Alexander and Commissioner Hairston agree that there should be a committee that
defines exactly what a restaurant and a night club are by definition. Chief Christian also added
that there should also be a definition of social clubs as well since many of them operate just like
nightclubs in some instances.
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Commissioner Edwards then said that he not for a committee and that all the commissioners
need to have a work session and that then all of them are in on the planning process. That is
the point of the commission is to plan, come up with a plan, and strengthen our codes. But he
is not in support of a committee. At our work session we need to have city staff, the police
chief, the fire chief, etc. to work on this together. We need to get these codes strengthened
now as things are going to be coming down 95 from Richmond. Commissioner Edwards wants
Director Tabor to get with the commission for a work session and not create a new committee.
This is what we are here for. That way when people who want to open new businesses like
restaurants or nightclubs, come to staff to file their paperwork, everything is there spelled out
correctly and we don’t have these issues popping up moving forward. The Police Chief cannot
keep doing his job properly if we do not give him the tools to do it with. So having a strong
uniform code that mirrors the state guidelines is where we need to be.
Chair Alexander then ended the conversation with that she was planning on having a
subcommittee set up the details and then she was going to have a work session to bring back to
the whole commission the details of what had been decided.
Commissioner Edwards ended the evening with a question about if anyone had heard anything
about Virginia Ave school. The answer to that was that the project was moving forward, and
the developers are working on both the Virginia Ave school as well as vacant parcels in the
neighborhood.
Announcements: there were no announcements.
Adjournment:
Meeting was adjourned at 7:44 p.m. Next meeting is at 6:00 p.m. on March 3, 2022.
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Agenda
Public Notice
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1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Adoption of the Agenda
4. Adoption of the Minutes
a. January 20, 2022, Planning Commission Meetings
5. Public Information Period (3-minute maximum comment period for each speaker)
6. Public Hearings
a. 22-CPA-01: A resolution recommending approval of amendments to the City’s
Comprehensive Plan to comply with the Chesapeake Bay Preservation Act.
b. 22-REZ-02: A petition to rezone property located at 801 S Adams Street, TP:
031300002, from RB, Office-Apartment District, to MXD-3, Mixed Use District.
The property is 24.02 acres.
c. City Code Amendment 2021-01: Consideration of amendments to the City of
Petersburg Code of Ordinances, Chapter 50. Environment Article II. Noise and
recommendations to the City Council.
7. Old Business
Draft Text Amendments:
a. Chapter 110. Traffic and Vehicles, Article VIII. Bicycles; Mopeds. Division 1. Generally.
Section 110-356. Sec. 110-356. - Riding of bicycles on sidewalks prohibited. No person,
except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties, shall Any
person may ride any bicycle on any sidewalk if there are no dedicated bicycle facilities
(i.e. bicycle lanes, trails, etc.) and street speeds are higher than 25 miles per hour.
Bicyclists must dismount and walk their bicycle while passing a pedestrian when there is
not sufficient space to safely pass while riding.
b. Chapter 110. Traffic and Vehicles, Article VIII. Bicycles; Mopeds. Division 1. Generally.
Section 110-356. Sec. 110-371. - Required. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate
or use a bicycle or moped upon any of the streets, alleys or public highways of the city,
without first obtaining a certificate of registration from the chief of police. Any person
may register also obtain a certificate of registration for a bicycle. (Code 1981, § 7-16)
8. New Business
a. Nightclubs – Chief of Police
9. Announcements
10. Adjournment
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