Planning Commission
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · April 4, 2024
Minutes
City of Petersburg
Planning Commission Meeting
April 4, 2024
Minutes
The City of Petersburg Planning Commission meeting held on Thursday, April 4, 2024, was
called to order by Chair Alexander, at 6:30 p.m. A roll call was completed by Ms. Michelle
Murrills.
Members Present: Ms. Tammy Alexander, Chair
Mr. Fenton Bland, Vice Chair
Mr. Thomas Hairston
Ms. Marie Vargo
Mr. Michael Edwards
Dr. James Norman
Members Absent: Mrs. Candace Taylor
Dr. William Irvin
Mr. Thomas Hairston
A quorum was established by Ms. Murrills.
Others Present: Ms. Naomi Siodmok-Planning Director, Mr. Jared Crews, Ms. Michelle Murrills,
Ms. Tory Haynes, Mr. W Howard Myers, Ms. Josilyn Toppins and Dave Alexander.
3. Adoption of the Agenda:
Chair Alexander called for any changes to the agenda. Since there were none, Commissioner
Edwards moved to approve the agenda. Vice Chair Bland seconded it. It passed unanimously.
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4. Consent Agenda:
The minutes from February and March 2024, were then up for adoption. As there were no
changes, Commissioner Vargo moved to approve the minutes and Vice Chair Bland seconded
them. It passed unanimously.
5. Public Hearings:
a. 24-CPA-01: A public hearing and consideration in accordance with Section 15.2.2225 of the
Code of Virginia of a resolution recommending repealing the “City of Petersburg PTB2040”
Comprehensive Plan and adopting the “PetersburgNEXT, Comprehensive Plan 2044”
Comprehensive Plan.
The presentation was made by Ms. Tory Haynes of the Berkley Group. She explained that the
Berkley Group, the Planning Commission, city officials, and others have been working together
on this comprehensive plan for the past two years and it has come down to this last
presentation for the Planning Commission to vote on and then send on to the City Council so
that it can become the overall Comprehensive Plan. She went through the history of the
process of how The Plan got to this point and then an overview just to make sure there was
nothing that needed to be changed before the final version went on to City Council. With that
she then explained that the next steps tonight would be the public hearing and then the
Planning Commission’s recommendation to City Council.
Chair Alexander then asked if any of the commissioners if they had any questions.
Commissioner Edwards said that he did. He wanted to go back to chapter 10. And asked if Ms.
Haynes would elaborate on how much residential was taken and made industrial. He was told
that in the Squirrel Level Road area it was around 68 acres. Down on Rives Road, where there
was close to 130 acres that was converted, she did not know for sure what the breakdown was
as to how much was residential before it was converted. Commissioner Edwards then asked if
the acreage out on Squirrel Level Road had any communities around it. He was told that yes
there are communities, but that by City Council’s request they tried to change the zoning of as
much land as possible and any neighborhoods that might have been affected were kept
residential. Commissioner Edwards then clarified that he was asking if any of the land that has
been rezoned industrial, does it back up to anyone’s back door. He was told that the answer
was not immediately known, but that the information could be gotten to him. Ms. Haynes also
reiterated that he should keep in mind that these are future land use designations and that the
land is not automatically rezoned as such. He said that he is concerned that the sixty acres on
Squirrel Level Road shouldn’t just be locked up. While he is all for development, the housing
market is going strong, and he doesn’t want to see Petersburg run out of room for further
housing development. You can ride the city today and you can see infill houses being built in
neighborhoods that people have spoken unkindly about, you ride up many streets in 5 th Ward
and you will see houses being built in what was once called the slums of the city, so when we
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talk about chopping up what little we have left for new housing developments. He asked for
information on the Squirrel Level Road land, and he wanted to know if anyone was contacted to
tell them this was happening. Director Siodmok explained that this was not really being
rezoned, it was just going into The Plan, and nothing can happen with the land until someone
brings it to the Planning Commission. It doesn’t mean that it is automatically rezoned. And
until it comes forward to be rezoned, no one would be notified about these changes.
With that Chair Alexander said that she would then open up the public hearing. She asked if
anyone would like to speak in favor or opposition. When no one spoke up, she closed the
public hearing. She then asked the commissioners what they would like to do. Commissioner
Vargo then moved to accept the resolution as is. This was seconded by Commissioner Edwards.
It passed unanimously.
b. 2024-REZ-01: A public hearing and consideration of a resolution recommending approval of a
petition to rezone property located at 303, 309, 315, 323, 419, and 431 West Washington
Street from B-2, General Commercial, and R-3, Two-Family Residence, to the RB, Office-
Apartment District.
Mr. Crews made the presentation. He mentioned the history of this resolution from previous
meetings. There are six lots overall and it is the block between Davis and Lafayette Streets plus
one more property along Washington Street. It appears to all be residential except for the one
church there. As mentioned, the request is to rezone the lots to the RB office/apartment
district. The request was initiated by City Council at their January 16 th meeting. The request’s
broad term introduction was at the February Planning Commission meeting. The Commission
asked for some additional clarification behind the zoning. Staff did reach out and the answer
was that the zoning was appropriate because 1.) There were already apartments in some of
those buildings which would then essentially bring the zoning into alignment with the usage of
the properties. 2.) The buildings are pretty large and appropriately sized to accommodate all
uses. This hearing was originally scheduled for last month’s meeting, but it was delayed due to
advertising issues. But we did allow public comment at that meeting, since the notices had
already been mailed, and one of the residents, 315 W Washington, spoke against the request
noting the lack of reason and the loss of potential property value. The current Comprehensive
Plan says that since this is a corridor that is a gateway to the city and should have vibrant
mixed-use components. Which would fit just fine. So again, this is brought to the commission
at the request of Council, and they’ve asked that you consider and make a recommendation
about the appropriateness of the rezoning.
Chair Alexander asked if the commissioners had any questions for staff. Commissioner Vargo
said yes. She said that she thought that the Comprehensive Plan was supposed to help with
continuity. Carving out a block or so in the middle of a sea of B-2 and R-3 does not keep us
moving forward to get some continuity with the zoning of these streets. Mr. Crews said that he
wished he had some better information to share, but it’s more based upon the existing uses
today than on the future uses. What was shared back with us was it was because the size of
the buildings could accommodate both the apartments and the offices. And it is different than
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the surrounding zoning and it does interact with the comprehensive plan in a couple of ways.
Commissioner Vargo also asked what the definition of multifamily was and she was told
anything over two family. She then asked if that meant that these large historic homes could
then become apartments and she was told that yes that it is possible with this zoning. Chair
Alexander asked which houses were nonconforming and Mr. Crews said that he didn’t know
only that some of them are. It was then mentioned that 431 has apartments, as does 323. 303,
309, and 315 are group homes and could potentially become apartments. Commissioner
Edwards then asked if this rezoning could be expanded beyond what is recommended. Mr.
Crews said that it is possible but that it would be a whole new action item rather than just
expanding the one that we have now.
Chair Alexander then opened the hearing to the public.
Mr. W Howard Myers, 431 W Washington Street, current 5 th Ward City Councilman. He said
that he is opposed to the expansion of the zoning but is certainly supportive of the block plus
one house more. He said that he is probably the one that is non-conforming, but that his house
was made up of 10 apartments when he bought it and that he has removed those and now it is
single family. But he does maintain three apartments, there is an English basement apartment
plus two more in his carriage house. Unfortunately, at this time, he said that he has to carry
the load of the electricity bill in the carriage house. Even if you don’t pay your rent, I still have
to pay the electricity bill. With this zoning change, it would allow me to have the electricity
meters for each apartment so that they could be billed separately. To be clear, at the time that
I bought the house it was conforming. The reason why I don’t want the expansion, and I’ll
explain myself, is not for my own general purposes. When you come down Washington Street
you see a plethora of businesses and houses. Which creates a view as you enter the City of
Petersburg. It already exists at this particular point the way that it is supposed to, based upon
the sizes of the houses (which I think you alluded to). I live in a 7000 sq ft brick house. I have
been a proponent and supportive of duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes here in Petersburg,
because basically when you have a house of this size it is hard to maintain this house without
extra income coming in. And if someone wants to come and purchase a house or a duplex in
Petersburg and you can have a second income renting out separate quarters to help pay the
mortgage or any other monetary need. But I don’t think that the extension is needed, I think
that it is just needed for these houses on this specific block. And just to reiterate, my house
was not conforming here recently, but it was conforming when I bought it. Thank you
Next was Ms. Michelle Murrills, 131 S Market St. She said that she is basically in complete
agreement with Mr. Myers. That basically with the changes that were made last month with
the R-3, which should have been approved by city council those apartments would now be
allowed which would be great. Also, don’t know if you realize it or not, but the Family Dollar
across the street is going out of business. So, I don’t know what will be coming in there. Also,
the buildings that go west past Mr. Myers’ house, those are all just small single-family homes or
duplexes which are much smaller anyways and I believe that the duplexes are all on R-3
properties which again are covered by the new changes. But those should be fine as well, they
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don’t necessarily need the new zoning to be extended to them, because they are not super
large houses. Thank you.
Chair Alexander then asked if anyone else wanted to speak, when no one did, she closed the
public portion of the hearing. She then asked if any commissioners had anything to say.
Commissioner Edwards said that he didn’t want to be the one to table this (since he has been
tabling things recently). Commissioner Vargo said that she has a concern. We are so close to
the Comprehensive Plan and the new Zoning Plan that would take care of most of these issues
all at the same time. She said that she wants to see more continuity instead of blocks that are
different. It drives her crazy and it makes it difficult to keep up with, especially with zoning
enforcement and stuff like that. She then made a motion to table this until after dealing with
Comprehensive Plan and able to do the Comprehensive Zoning Plan as well. Because at that
time then this can be considered part of that Zoning Plan. Vice Chair Bland then asked if there
were any time constraints on this at all. To which Mr. Crews said probably not, but that the
city-wide zoning updates would take another 18 months or so.
Commissioner Edwards said that he wanted more time to deal with this one issue. After getting
some clarification from Mr. Crews, he said that he wanted to go on record and say that he will
not be pressured to make any type of decision because it’s coming from the elected. He then
seconded Commissioner Vargo’s motion.
The vote passed with one abstention from Commissioner Norman. Commissioner Edwards then
asked for clarification as to how much time he had to bring it back for a vote before they would
have to start all over again per Robert’s Rules of Order. So, he asked to bring it back to the next
meeting to discuss again.
c. 2024-ZTA-02: A public hearing and consideration of a resolution recommending approval of
an amendment to Article 3, Definitions, Article 14, B-1 Shopping Center District Regulations,
Article 16, B-3 Central Commercial District Regulations, and Article 23, Supplementary Use
Regulations, Special Uses, as set forth in the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Petersburg
pertaining to recreational substance facilities.
Mr. Crews made the presentation.
At the last meeting there was a discussion item that was brought forward because of the
increased number of requests that the city is getting to open vape shops here in Petersburg.
There have been at least 6 requests in the last six months or so. Four of those are wanting to
open in a quarter square mile area. So, staff shared concerns that this is something that should
be looked into. Especially as this is something that correlates to higher smoking rates amongst
teenagers. So, at the last Planning Commission meeting it was mentioned and you all made
recommendations that you wanted to see in the code. The end goal of all is this is the lowering
of teen smoking rates. And again, there is a proven correlation between the vape shops’
proximity to schools as well as how accessible they are period and higher teen smoking rates.
There are three parts to the amendment.
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1.) Defining recreational substances and recreational substance retail uses.
2.) Specifying where facilities conducting recreational substance retail use are permitted.
3.) Setting additional conditions and restrictions on recreational substance retail uses.
New definitions:
Recreational substances include the following:
1.) Any product made of tobacco, including cigarettes, cigars, smokeless tobacco, and pipe
tobacco.
2.) Any noncombustible product containing nicotine or vaping fluid that employs a heating
element, power source, or other electronic, chemical, or mechanical means, regardless
of shape or size, that can be used to produce vapor from a solution or other form.
3.) Any product, including any raw materials from hemp that are used for or added to a
food or beverage product, that contains hemp and has completed all stages of
processing needed for the product.
4.) Kratom, and any product including any raw materials from Kratom that are used for or
added to a food or beverage product, that contains Kratom and has completed all stages
of processing needed for the product.
5.) Any pipe, vaporizer, other type of device, wrappings, or accessories associated with the
consumption or inhalation of the abovementioned substances and materials.
Other new definitions:
Recreational Substances, Retail, Off-Site Use: Any establishment, facility, or location whose
business operation involves (i) the retail sale of Recreational Substances and (ii) includes
Recreational Substances as 25% or more of its total inventory or 15% or more of its total display
shelf area.
Recreational Substances, Retail, On-Site Use. Any establishment, facility, or location whose
business operation allows the on-site use of Recreational Substances.
Conditions for recreational substance retail uses:
Recreational substances retail (both off-site and on-site) would be allowed in the B-1, Shopping
Center, B-2, General Commercial, and M-1, Light Industrial zoning districts subject to the
following conditions:
a. The use must be at least 2,000 feet from the property line of any school, public park,
public playground, or public recreation/community building.
b. The use must be at least 2,000 feet from any other facility with the same use; and c.
Hours of operation are limited to 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.
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c. Recreational substances retail would be prohibited in the B-3, Central Commercial
district.
Other Considerations
No person shall sell to, distribute to, purchase for, or knowingly permit the purchase by any
person less than 21 years of age, knowing or having reason to believe that such person is less
than 21 years of age, any tobacco product, nicotine vapor product, alternative nicotine product,
or hemp product intended for smoking. Code of Virginia § 18.2-371.2.
(United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates product packaging)
With that he said that Staff recommends approval and asked if any of the commissioners had
any questions.
Chair Alexander then asked…If we were to go back to the houses we were talking about earlier,
if someone wanted to open a vape shop in one of those three houses right now, they would be
allowed because they are B-2. The answer was yes with the current zoning. She then said now
if it changed to RB, it would not be allowed, and Mr. Crews said that is correct it would not be
allowed. Commissioner Edwards then asked about the existing vape shops like Cloud Shop,
that would not be allowed in the area it is in, are they grandfathered in, and he said that
Director Siodmok said that they would be grandfathered in and that these changes would only
be for any new shops coming in.
Chair Alexander then opened up the public portion of the hearing.
First to speak was
Mr. David Alexander, 110 Liberty Street, spoke against it. First there were some
comments…our number one concern should be the health of all of the citizens of Petersburg
and things like this can be a slippery slope especially for young people. I want you all to
consider that you are in the position to help rather than enabling people to push them down
that slippery slope, you could be the ones to stop them. Also, some of these people are just
concerned about making money. Is that really what we want? Thank you.
Josilyn Toppins, she said that she is opposed to this because of all the things that are covered
by this amendment. She said that people selling these things add things to these products all
the time and there is no way to be sure what is or is not added. The city of Petersburg is not
going to be able to regulate it, because it is regulated by the FDA. So, at the end of the day, we
are here to educate not only our youth but our adults as well about their health in a community
that as a whole is already declining. But with this the city is saying that while we are not going
to allow it here, but we are going to allow it here. Yes, the hospitals and schools should be
absolutely no smoking of any kind on the premises and such. Now, however, we are taking
these things out into the public and now people like me who are allergic have to breathe in
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these products which can cause all kinds of problems. And now we are all out breathing all of
these things. And if the city is going to make things like hemp legal then we will have people
smoking (or vaping) to get high on the streets of Petersburg. Is that really what we want for
Petersburg? Thank you.
Chair Alexander then closed the public portion of the hearing.
Commissioner Edwards said that he understood the public concerns. He said that he deals with
these things on a daily basis working for the city’s public transportation. It does not matter if
we pass this, deny this, table this, marijuana is legal, and people get on the buses everyday and
they light it up. We are never going to stop it. We are never going to stop people from going
into the store and buying cigarettes or alcohol. If we don’t put it here, they are going to find a
way to go somewhere else and buy it. When you get off 95 at exit 53 you have G-leaf right
there at SouthPark in Colonial Heights, another city that has it. Marijuana is here to stay, and
we need to get this figured out now. I would rather have somebody vaping then smoking
because I grew up in a family of smokers and thank God, but my mother beat lung cancer after
smoking for 54 years. And who are we to tell a grown person what you can and cannot do? He
said that he wants to be on record that he understands the concerns of the public, but we
cannot hold back the progress regardless of personal feelings and opinions. At the end of the
day, the city is here as a business and so with that Commissioner Edwards made a motion to
accept Staff’s recommendations with the attached resolution. It was seconded by Vice Chair
Bland. Chair Alexander also added that while this is being voted upon, it is not the Planning
Commission condoning the use of these products just the regulation of them.
A vote was taken, and it was unanimous.
6. OLD BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
Text Amendment Discussion Architectural Treatment.
The presentation was made by Mr. Crews who said, Staff has been asked to present a potential
code amendment for the Commission’s consideration.
The goal of the amendment would be to encourage attractive and architecturally cohesive
structures within the City by introducing “architectural treatment” standards for new
construction.
Components of the proposed amendment:
A. Projects to Establish an Architectural Theme
B. Sites to Obscure Junction and Accessories Boxes
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C. Sites to Obscure of Mechanical Equipment
D. Projects to meet minimum standards for exterior materials
With this amendment, it would allow a more uniform, attractive historical looking standards
that could be applied to all new construction buildings in the city of Petersburg.
Planning Commission has the following options.
1. Motion to recommend the proposed amendment be brought for public hearing
2. Recommend changes to proposed amendment
3. Decline to bring proposed amendment to public hearing (hearing can still be initiated by
Council or citizen request (for fee)
He then asked if there were any questions and what would the commissioners like to do?
Commissioner Edwards then said that (for instance) in the Historical Districts there are different
guidelines. So, they would still have to follow the historic guidelines of the ARB. Mr. Crews said
that the ARB would be even more restrictive so that would not be a problem, this is for those
houses that are not covered by the historic districts and not subject to the ARB guidelines. This
would not only affect houses, but also would force businesses to look a certain way so that they
would be able to fit in with the overall idea of how the city of Petersburg should look.
Commissioner Edwards said that he really liked this idea and made a motion to bring the
proposed amendment for a public hearing and it was seconded by Vice Chair Bland. A vote was
taken, and it passed unanimously.
8. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Commissioner Edwards reminded us that there is a Town Hall Meeting next Sunday to discuss
the different casino ideas at the library from 2-4.
Mr. Crews also announced that there is a new Ward 1 Planning Commissioner Alven Cannon
that will be starting next month.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Edwards then asked for adjournment at 8:00 seconded by Commissioner Norman.
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