Planning & Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingPinetop-Lakeside, AZ · May 5, 2015
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE, ARIZONA, HELD TUESDAY, MAY 5, 2015, IN ROOM 16.
Chairman Jarchow called the Regular Meeting to order at 4:30 p.m. Roll call was as follows:
ROLL CALL: Present Absent Present Absent
John Jarchow X Timothy Williams X
James Snitzer X Ken Haught X
Rob Ingels X Adam Staley X _____
Richard Smith X
STAFF PRESENT: Paul Esparza, Community Development Director and Jill Akins, Assistant to the
Town Clerk.
ITEM NO. 3, CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
There were no requests from the public to address the Commission at this time.
ITEM NO. 4, INFORMATION/DISCUSSION/LEGAL ACTION RE: OPEN SPACE/UNBUILT LOT AREA
DEFINITIONS:
Chairman Jarchow said Open Space would have to be better defined before presenting it to the
Town Council. Commissioner Ingels said he would like a better definition of Unbuilt Lot Area.
Chairman Jarchow said he would like to have the definition of Open Space under in the Title 16
definitions. He said in Title 16 numbers 82, 83 and 84 definitions would have to be
alphabetized. Chairman Jarchow said his recommendation for Title 16 under number 82 put in
the Open Space definition, but add the wording “as such it may be excluded from this Title as
Open Space in itself because it is a zoning definition.” Chairman Jarchow said in Title 17 there
would be three specific definitions. Commissioner Ingels said he would like to have the word
“preserved” included in the definitions. Chairman Jarchow said he thought the words
preserved, active and passive are in Title 16 not in Title 17. Mr. Esparza said preserved, active
and passive are in Title 16 and said only applicable to sub-divisions. Commissioner Ingels said in
a Planned Unit Development Zoning District there would be Open Space. Mr. Esparza said
under a Planned Unit Development thirty percent of the property would be used as parking and
would be considered Open Space. Commissioner Ingels said he is concerned with the
definitions of Unbuilt Area, Unbuilt Common Area and Unbuilt Lot Area. He said rear yards and
easements could be considered meaningful open space in developments. He said the word
preserved is important to him because of living in a forested mountain community, and said it is
a desirable and positive landscape element. He said not seeing the word preserved any longer
in title 17 is a concern to him. Chairman Jarchow said the word preserved was never in Title 17.
Commissioner Ingels said he is fine with Title 16. Chairman Jarchow said the Title 17 Open
Space definition would be a zoning district designation and means a single lot or larger.
Chairman Jarchow said to look at numbers 82, 83 and 84 in Title 17. He said these are Unbuilt
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Lot Area, Unbuilt Common Area and Unbuilt Area. He said Unbuilt Common Area means an
area of land within a development that may include trails, drainage areas and recreational
facilities held for the use of multiple parties. He said Unbuilt Lot Area means any lot area
exclusive of structure or paving. He said Unbuilt Area means an area of land exclusive of
structure or pavement. Chairman Jarchow asked Commissioner Ingels where does passive,
active and preserved occur in Title 17. Commissioner Ingels said it does not in Title 17 and said
he is having a difficult time grasping the concept of Unbuilt Area. He said there does not seem
to be an attempt to preserve the natural and existing environment when development occurs
in any of the definitions. Chairman Jarchow said there is in terms of percentages.
Commissioner Staley said this would be addressed through Zoning, and said the Commission is
only defining the three definitions. Chairman Jarchow said the proposed definition changes
would not affect the development of any zones. Commissioner Ingels said he is struggling with
the definitions and said he appreciates the dialogue for his concern.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TITLE 16 AND 17 DEFINITIONS
AS APPLIES TO THE TOWN CODE AS FOLLOWS: OPEN SPACE IS A ZONING DISTRICT
DESIGNITION AND MEANS A SINGLE LOT OR LARGER. UNBUILT LOT AREA MEANS ANY LOT
AREA EXCLUSIVE OF STRUCTURE OR PAVING. UNBUILT COMMON AREA MEANS AN AREA OF
LAND WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY INCLUDE TRAILS, DRAINGAGE AREAS AND
RECREATIONAL FACILITIES HELD FOR THE USE OF MULTIPLE PARTIES. UNBUILT AREA MEANS
AN AREA OF LAND EXCLUSIVE OF STRUCTURE OR PAVEMENT. COMMISSIONER STALEY
SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED 5-1 WITH COMMISSIONER INGELS
OPPOSED.
ITEM NO. 5, INFORMATION/DISCUSSION RE: TACO BELL REMODEL:
Chairman Jarchow said Taco Bell is proposing a remodel. Mr. Esparza said he had been talking
to an architect in Mesa, Arizona regarding the remodeling. He said Taco Bell is currently
remodeling sites with the “Live Mas” prototype style and said the remodel would be similar to a
remodel done in Yuma, Arizona. He said the existing building would be remodeled and said
elements would be added to the existing structure. Commissioner Staley said currently there is
limited flow of traffic and parking around the building. Mr. Esparza said the elements and
extensions would be towards the highway. He said they would be adding to the existing
structure. Chairman Jarchow said projecting towards the street would be acceptable, but said
towards the parking lot would be unacceptable. He said the discussion for the Commission
tonight would be about the and style and building features. Commissioner Staley said he would
like to have the Taco Bell remodeled. Commissioner Ingels said he would like the style to
comply better with the Towns architectural themes. He said the lights on top of the building
are not acceptable. Mr. Esparza said he suggested adding stone to the bottom of the columns.
Commissioner Ingels said they should strive to meet the design review requirements and use
the correct colors and materials. A discussion ensued regarding compliance with the design
review board and the design review board. Mr. Esparza said he would ask for more wood and
stone elements on the design.
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ITEM NO. 6, INFORMATION/DISCUSSION RE: BUCK SPRINGS PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT:
Mr. Esparza said he had been working with Mark Kahlick regarding the ten acres of Planned
Unit Development on Bucksprings Road. He said the development would be forty-two units in
twenty-one buildings. He said the general road layout is a loop with forest service access from
the development, and said there would be access to the ADOT trail running along highway 260.
He said there is a large flood plain, gazebo area and a storm water detention area qualifying as
Open Space. He said this would be the tentative layout of the development and said Mr.
Kahlick, J & L Development, Inc., and Mr. Brimhall, Tetra Tech, are in attendance to answer
questions and receive feedback from the Commission. Commissioner Staley asked if the units
were front loaded two car garage units. Mr. Brimhall said they are, and said there would be
two additional exterior parking spaces in the driveway along with parking on the street. Mr.
Esparza said due to the density of the project the Code requires a sixty foot right of way which
would accommodate on street parking. Chairman Jarchow asked if there would be any
common parking areas. Mr. Brimhall said the street parking would be used as the common
area parking. He said in front of units five, six, seven and eight would be considered common
area parking. Commissioner Staley said there would be sufficient parking for the development.
He asked what the intended surface material for the driveways and common parking areas
would be. Mr. Kahlich said the driveways would be concrete pavers. He said the units would
have an architectural pleasing look in front using log siding. He said treatments around the
windows would also have log siding. He said the walkways would possibly be crushed granite.
He said the sewer easement area would be left open space with recreational areas and picnic
benches. He said he would talk to the Forest Service regarding allowing at least one gate entry
into the forest. A lengthy discussion ensued regarding trail and forest access. Commissioner
Williams asked if the units would be built on slabs. Mr. Kahlich said they would be on stem
walls due to the rocky terrain. He said the foot print size of the unit is approximately thirty feet
by seventy feet. He said the unit is roughly eighteen hundred square feet single level and said
up to twenty three hundred square feet with a loft option and upstairs bedroom. He said
porches would be built inside as covered porches within the foot print. He said each entryway
would have a paver entryway and columns to define the entryways. Commissioner Williams
asked if there would be a turn lane at the entrance. Mr. Kahlich said if it is required. Mr.
Esparza said they might be required to do a traffic impact study. Commissioner Ingels asked if
there would be a pedestrian path in front of the development. Mr. Kahlich said it is possible
there would be a crushed granite walk way in front of the development. Commissioner Ingels
asked if there would be public common use versus private use only for trail access for hikers or
bikers. Mr. Kahlick said it would depend if the community would be gated and he said it had
not been decided yet. He said it would depend on the real estate market and said sometimes a
gated community would sell better. Mr. Kahlich said there would be a nice entryway whether
the community was gated or not. Mr. Esparza said the next step would be either site plan
approval or tentative plat approval. He said Mr. Brimhall and Mr. Kahlich would take the
Commission’s comments into review and bring back a tentative plat. He said they had
exceeded the Open Space requirements and have met the required standards. Commissioner
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Williams asked if the stem walls would be painted or have stone on them. Mr. Kahlich said
most likely the stem walls would be painted. Commissioner Staley asked if the side walls along
the main traffic corridor, Bucksprings Road, would be dressed up in some way. Mr. Kahlick said
something would be installed either low walls, fencing or landscaping. He said the fire
department would review for access. Commissioner Ingels asked if there would be any trees
saved in the development. Mr. Kahlick said trees would be marked and saved within the
development. He said the development would not clear cut trees, but said would try to save
trees. A lengthy discussion ensued regarding clearing and saving trees.
ITEM NO. 7, STAFF REPORTS:
Mr. Esparza said the Public Hearing for the Communications Tower would be held on Thursday,
May 21, 2015 at 6:00 p.m. He said the applicant had approached all of the adjacent property
owners. He said the letters to neighboring properties had been mailed out and the property
had been posted. He said the Community Counseling Center is considering adding a second
building to their facility on Porter Mountain Road in the Commerce Park. He said it would be a
six to seven thousand square foot building. Commissioner Williams said there are three seats
on the Planning and Zoning Board expiring on July 24, 2015.
ITEM NO. 7, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
An update was not given at this time.
The meeting adjourned at 6:02 p.m.
Dated this 11th day of May 2015.
PINETOP-LAKESIDE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
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Jill Akins, Assistant to the Town Clerk
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Agenda
TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING AND AGENDA
Tuesday, May 5, 2015
Pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes Section 38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the
Pinetop-Lakeside Planning and Zoning Commission and to the general public that the Planning and
Zoning Commission will hold a public meeting on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 beginning at 4:30 p.m., in Room
16 located at 1360 N. Niels Hansen Lane, Pinetop-Lakeside, Arizona.
AGENDA
4:30 p.m. REGULAR MEETING:
1. Call to Order and Ascertain Quorum.
2. Pledge of Allegiance.
3. Call to the Public. This is a business meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. The Town
values and welcomes public input. Please address the Commission as a whole and not individual
Commission Members. Do not address staff or members of the audience. Commission action on
items brought up in Call to the Public is limited by the Open Meeting Law. The Commission may
direct staff to study the matter and reschedule for further consideration at a later date. Items on
the agenda will not be heard or discussed in Call to the Public. Individuals are limited to three (3)
minutes.
4. Information/Discussion/Legal Action Re: Open Space/unbuilt lot area definitions
a. Open Space/unbuilt lot area definitions as it applies to Title 16 and Title 17 in the Town Code.
5. Information/Discussion Re: Taco Bell remodel
6. Information/Discussion Re: Buck Springs proposed residential development
7. Staff Reports: No action will be taken.
a. Communications tower variance request
b. Community Counseling Center
Dated this 1st day of May 2015.
Town of Pinetop-Lakeside Planning and Zoning Commission
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Paul Esparza, Community Development Director
Posted by: __________
Date/time: ___________
AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT: The Town of Pinetop-Lakeside intends to comply with the A.D.A. If you are
disabled or physically challenged and need special accommodations to participate, please contact the Community
Development Department (928-368-8883) at least 48 hours prior to the meeting.
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