Planning & Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingPinetop-Lakeside, AZ · February 21, 2018
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION, HELD ON WEDENSDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2018 IN THE
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT
1360 N. NIELS HANSEN LANE, LAKESIDE, AZ 85929
A. Call to Order
Vice Chairman Smith called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Roll Call:
The following Members were present:
Adam Staley Chairman
Richard Smith Vice Chairman
Mazie Hastings Commission Member
John Salskov Commission Member
The following Member was absent:
Tim Williams Commission Member
Also Present:
Keith Johnson Town Manager
Cody Blake Community Development Director
Jill Akins Deputy Town Clerk
Larry Agan Commissioner Applicant
John Turner Conditional Use Permit Applicant
Nancy Turner Conditional Use Permit Applicant
Robert Ingels Citizen
Bob Martinson White Mountain Independent
B. Call to the Public
Chairman Staley called for public comments. No comments were offered.
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C. Minutes
Member Hastings moved to approve the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held on
January 25, 2018. Vice Chairman Smith seconded the motion and was carried
unanimously.
D. Staff Reports
D.1 Report and Update from Community Development Department.
Community Development Director Blake stated he did not have anything to report.
E. Old Business
No old business to report at this time.
F. New Business
F.1
Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Conditional Use Permit – 124
(CUP) for applicant John Turner for two (2) horses at 2728 S. Hart Lake
Lane, Lakeside, AZ 85929 in the N/E ¼ of Section 1, 42-039D. CUP per
Chapter 17.80 and Chapter 17.104, Section 17.104.150.
Community Development Director Blake stated the Turner’s completed the
Conditional Use Permit (CUP) application. Director Blake informed the
Commissioners of a mistake on his memorandum regarding the acres listed as .52
acres and he said it should be 4.78 acres. He said the applicant is requesting to
have two (2) horses on the property and said the Code allows for six (6) horses on
this size of property. Director Blake stated that nineteen (19) letters were mailed
out to the surrounding property owners and said only one (1) property owner
responded and it was a positive response and is in support of the CUP.
Director Blake said staff recommends the approval of the CUP as long as the
owner’s comply with the requirements of the equine regulations. He explained the
owners must have at least twelve hundred square feet per horse for corral space
and the applicant has four thousand square feet, which is larger than the minimum
required by the Code. He explained the owner will be building horse stalls and has
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already pulled a building permit for the stalls. Director Blake said there are no
drainage issues on the property.
John Turner asked the commissioners if they had any questions to ask him.
In response to Vice Chairman Smith, Mr. Turner said the green temporary corral
fencing would be kept and explained he currently has a Mustang that has to be kept
in a smaller space while he is training her. He said he would be driving some poles
into the temporary fencing so the fence does not move and wire up the fence. He
explained the fence will be semi-permanent and will not move or allow the animals
to escape. Mr. Turner explained further that he removed an old barn and corral
that was located on the back of the property. Mr. Turner conveyed he wanted the
horses to be located on the front of the property, explaining that horses really like
people and like to be around people.
Member Hastings moved to approve Conditional Use Permit 122 per Equine
Regulations for two (2) horses, property located at 2728 S. Hart Lake Lane,
Lakeside, AZ, also known as APN 212-42-039D. Member Salskov seconded the
motion and was carried unanimously.
F.2 Discussion and Consider Approval of Larry Agan to fill Planning
and Zoning Commission Vacancy with a Term Ending July 24, 2020.
Director Blake stated there is one (1) Planning and Zoning Commission vacancy
available in the county and one (1) Planning and Zoning Commission vacancy that
must be in the jurisdiction of the Town boundaries. He said Mr. Agan would fill
the county vacancy.
Member Salskov moved to approve the recommendation to the Town Council the
appointment of Larry Agan to fill the Planning and Zoning Commission county
vacancy with a term ending July 24, 2020. Member Hastings seconded the motion
and was carried unanimously.
F.3 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of New Town Code
Chapter 17.106 Wireless Communication Facilities and Design Standards for
Wireless Facilities in the Right-of-Way.
Director Blake said presently the Town does not have any cell phone tower Code
to address cell phone towers, the placement of cell towers, height or look of the
tower. He explained he created this Code to address Wireless Communication
Facilities and said the second part of the Code is the Design Standards for Wireless
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Facilities in the Right-of-Way. He explained the Design Standards for Wireless
Facilities in the Right-of-Way is State required Code, further explained the State
passed a law last year that Towns and Cities have to allow small cell tower usage
within the public right-of-way. He said there are some State mandated restrictions
and limitations on size and height, but also gave jurisdictions some leeway in
placing reasonable limitations on the towers in the right-of-way. The Code was
supposed to be passed in February 2018 or within sixty (60) days of the first
application, but he said the Town has not received an application yet.
Director Blake stated that the Wireless Communication Facilities Code will be
addressing cell towers on private property and the Design Standards that are
specific to small cell towers within the right-of-way.
In response to Member Salskov, Director Blake explained the Design Standards
state the allowance of the small wireless towers in the right-of-way. He said the
Design Standards are from the City of Chandler which is also utilized by the City
of Show Low.
Director Blake explained that most of the Code in Chapter 17.106 Wireless
Communication Facilities requires a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) except for
Chapter 17.106.020 Permitting, A. Uses of Permitted in Right-of-Way. He said if
the tower is not in public right-of-way, a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) will be
required. He said if it is a cell company wanting to install on telephone poles, the
Town must allow it by State law and only design regulations that are allowed.
Director Blake explained most of the Code came from the City of Flagstaff.
The following changes were made to Chapter 17.106, Wireless Communication
Facilities:
17.106.020 Permitting
A. Uses Permitted in Right-of-Way (No Conditional Use Permit required.)
17.106.030 General Requirements:
Member Hastings expressed her concern with the artificial lighting under D.2
“Necessary for security” and said this is too broad of a statement.
Director Blake explained the lighting would be addressed within the outdoor
lighting code and said the outdoor light control in 17.104.140 is referenced in D.3.
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It was the consensus of the Commission to remove D.2 and D.3 under 17.106.030
General Requirements.
Member Salskov expressed concern he has an issue with F.2. “To the maximum
extent feasible, wireless communication facilities shall be placed directly above,
below, or incorporated with vertical design elements of a building to help in
camouflaging.”
It was the consensus of the Commission to change F.2. to the following: “To the
maximum extent feasible, wireless communication facilities shall conform to the
design elements of a building.”
It was the consensus of the Commission to change F.4.e. to the following:
“Antennas shall be fitted with adequate coverage and shall not extend beyond the
tree branches located immediately adjacent to the antennas.”; and Figure 1:
“Standards for Sites”.
It was the consensus of the Commission to change F.4.g. to remove “The Director
or” from the beginning of the third sentence.
Chairman Staley suggested using “WCF” as the abbreviation for “Wireless
Communication Facility”, after the first use of the statement in the beginning of the
document.
Robert Ingels addressed the Commission with the following comments: “It is
important to attempt to co-locate sites because there is already one very large
tower in the community and a lot of engineering went into it to create the most
preferential spot for the tower. The Code states that the Director may waive the
requirement for Conditional Use Permits for Wireless Communication Facilities
that meet all of the criteria of this Code if the new facility or equipment is co-
located on or adjoining an existing Wireless Communication Facility. Does
adjoining mean a parcel next to this or would it be a structure next to it? And,
again, would the co-location, being something to me that needs to be way up front
in the process, if the company has come in and already pulled the request for the
Conditional Use Permit and is going through that process it is very important in
my eyes that somebody say that this community does not want to have cell towers
all over the place, please give us your best attempt to co-locate before processing a
permit. Once an owner has pulled a permit their foot is in the door to go their own
route and we get a new tower in a new location. So, the way this is worded is one
little paragraph talking about the importance of co-location being important on the
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preferred site and I think that would be important to really encourage the co-
locating. Again, I can’t stress, my bedroom, and I’m up high, I see three flashing
red lights now when the shades are open from Porter Mountain and in my
driveway I see the new tower, White Mountain Communication has up, and I’ve
accepted that tower, but I’ve heard a commercial property right across from my
driveway had thought about having a second cell tower at that location too. There
is a responsibility as a community to look at the purpose that we want and to have
a limited number of towers and have the premier locations to best serve the
citizens. I know it is a private business issue but I feel it would save a lot of the
difficulty in conversing with staff and the Commission if Conditional Use Permits
would go ahead. Although I know this is important, and talked about for quite a
few years now, and I had referenced the Flagstaff codes sometime back, the lack of
people here at a 5:00 p.m. meeting on a Wednesday might be significant for taking
legal action to recommend this as is and it would be nice for the public to know
what is being proposed and have an opportunity to comment on it.
Chairman Staley thanked Mr. Ingels and said the Commission and staff appreciate
his input.
Vice Chairman Smith moved to recommend to the Town Council the approval of
Town Code Chapter 17.106 Wireless Communication Facilities subject to the
discussed changes from the Commission. Member Salskov seconded the motion
and was carried unanimously.
Director Blake proceeded to the Design Standards and said there are not a lot of
communities in the State that have approved the Design Standards for a small
Wireless Facility in the Right-of-Way as of yet, only Chandler, Paradise Valley
and Show Low have passed this. He explained there are still some questions on
the State law and how some of these might be affected, but said this document
does have a long list of definitions in the document regarding the intent and goes
into a lot of the requirements mentioned in the State Code.
Director Blake asked the Commissioners if they have had a chance to review the
Design Standards.
Chairman Staley said he had not thoroughly reviewed the document and asked
Director Blake if this was an action item for approval and recommendation.
Director Blake answered that it is an action item for tonight’s meeting. He
explained that State law states it is supposed to be passed by February 2018 or
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within sixty (60) days of our first application, which we do not have at this time, so
it is not urgent to approve the document tonight.
Chairman Staley assigned the Commissioners to review the Design Standards
section and be prepared to take action on it at the next Planning and Zoning
Meeting.
Member Salskov moved to table the Design Standards for Wireless Facilities in the
Right-or-Way. Member Hastings seconded the motion and was carried
unanimously.
F.4 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Changes to Title 17
Chapter 17.88 Design Review.
Director Blake said this section had been discussed previously by the Commission
and he has made all of the changes and recommendations to Chapter 17.88 Design
Review as proposed by the Commission.
Robert Ingels expressed the following to the Commission: I am really shocked to
see the guidelines, which seemed that this Commission could be using to act in the
best interest of the health, safety and welfare of the Community, are primarily
stricken now. The Design Review section that I see here is disappointing in my
opinion and to see the power that transfers directly to the Director, without
Planning Commission involvement, and as a recent example, the clear cutting of a
property that ultimately will have to go through site plan review and seeing that
perhaps one person’s judgement, versus a Commission’s judgement, created an
activity which doesn’t seem to be in good compliance with the purpose of the
Zoning Code and with our General Plan. Comments have been made to me, which
I tend to agree with, maybe some earlier interaction or more oversight. I have
pages of notes that I wanted to address with the Commission, one of the things is
where you would have the option to recommend that a qualified forester review a
site plan before clear cutting would occur. I don’t know, and you may or may not
choose to respond, if the Chairman or Vice Chairman was actively consulted by
the Director in the conceptual plan of that particular site. As I am looking through
things, that I feel are important to the community when a property is going to be
developed; what trees are to be removed, what trees are to be saved; some of these
kinds of things are now struck from the document completely and whole
paragraphs of things that I thought were designed to create an attractive business
frontage where we would draw in quality development to our community and we
would be showing by example and we would be rewarding the potential developers
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with good quality development. As I am looking through some of the notes that I
have here, Commission Powers and Duties, Planning and Zoning should have the
power to approve, conditionally approve or disapprove all applications within the
Design Review. Now that is still in the Code, but how does the Commission get to
review and do the design review when a property is already denuded of all the
vegetation on it. That goes directly in contrast with some of the criteria that
normally would be considered in a conceptual plan and I am really concerned with
that we are shifting a whole bunch of power into one individual by title the
Director of Community Development and hearing that this same individual would
be the forester cuts out what I think the Code was trying to allow a collaboration
of different interests to work that no longer are going to have anywhere near the
guidance that was in here, because as seven Commissioner Members you see
everything slightly different and I think that is very valuable than one individual
making decisions that can’t be reversed. The line items that I had gone through
and had question marks on, I guess you guys are comfortable with all of that
Member Hastings moved to recommend to the Town Council the approval of the
changes to Title 17 Chapter 17.88 Design Review. Vice Chairman Smith seconded
the motion and was carried unanimously.
F.5 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Changes to Title 17
Chapter 17.84 Site Plan and Plot Plan Review and Approval.
Director Blake said this section had been discussed previously by the Commission
and he has made all of the changes and recommendations to Chapter 17.84 Site
Plan and Plot Plan Review as proposed by the Commission.
Robert Ingels provided the following comments to the Commission: The Section
17.84.040 Site Plan Appeals that has been changed to the point that can anybody
other than the applicant and one of the Town Councilmembers or Staff create an
appeal of a site plan. That would be a question that I would have. When clear
cutting occurred, where the Pizza Hut is now located in Show Low, this would be a
reason to have development agreements to try and create a recorded document
that would avoid having a property be clear cut of all of the vegetation without a
posting that would allow it to be at least restored to a point that erosion, drainage
or runoff would not be a problem. And so in the binding conditions and
application I know that that would be something that has been used minimally with
the Town in the past, but I think that it is important that the section is in there.
Again, with all due respect, you as Commissioners do homework and volunteer to
be in the role you are in, you are doing your best to make recommendations that
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are relevant to certain sections in Title 16 and 17 of the Zoning Code. You are
minimizing the realm of power and duty that the Commission has to the changes
that are in here and as a past Commissioner the ability to have a flow chart to be
clear and concise I think is important. The importance of having things be clear
and easy to use is very important and the important time for that is when they are
in the office inquiring about what they want to do with a piece of property. As this
process moves ahead, the Community Development Director is the key person to
get the guidance going, but the interaction with the Planning and Zoning
Commission and staff and the interaction with the Commission and the applicant
can make a huge difference in the quality of the community that we have going
forth. So I understand the roles as far as the need for more economic development
and sales tax revenue, but at the same time I am concerned about losing the
qualities that a lot of us feel are important and the site plan and plot plan process
to me is one of those items that the Commission should step up, be informed and
try to make this community move in the direction that the voters of the General
Plan had created by their votes.
Member Salskov moved to recommend to Town Council the suggested changes to
Chapter 17.84 Site Plan and Plot Plan Review. Vice Chairman Smith seconded the
motion and was carried unanimously.
F.6 Discussion Regarding Any Future Agenda Items.
Community Development Director Blake announced that he received a letter of
interest from Chuck Nicholson to fill the vacancy on the Commission and said Mr.
Nicholson is a Town resident and a Town business owner. He said his letter of
interest will be presented to the Commission at the next meeting for their review.
Director Blake said he would have a couple of more sections of Chapter 17,
previously reviewed by the Commission, for approval. He said he would also
bring back the Design Standards for Wireless Facilities in the Right-of-Way that
the Commission tabled tonight.
Robert Ingels provided the following comments to the Commission: I would
appreciate as a future agenda item where minutes are available to be reviewed
prior to upcoming meetings with action to approve them. Granted I was here at
5:02 p.m. tonight and I didn’t have time to fill out the paperwork because of my
tardiness, but I was aware from being here in the January meeting that there was a
quorum and had anticipated addressing some of these issues that I didn’t do a very
good job of tonight and some of the omissions that I felt should have been in the
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minutes talked about you guys as a planning commission as a tree board, which I
think would be a good thing, because we are a Tree City USA and there are certain
requirements for that. Unless I am mistaking, the tree board that the Commission
acts as is designated by Town Council and if I am wrong on that I am sorry but I
thought as a future agenda item would be “What is your role as the Commission as
the tree board”. The other thing is, how you as a Commission create more public
participation in the process of looking over the documents you have and how do
we get people engaged in the community to participate. Part of the General Plan
talks about it being a plan for the citizens and so meeting times that are convenient
for the public to attend would be a great thing and I am not trying to defend that
people are not here, maybe there is so much trust in the process that they don’t
need to come and share opinions maybe you have other sources of input. A future
item would be “How do we engage our citizens in the process better”.
Chairman Staley stated the Commission has had meetings at different times and
there had been very little public input unless it is a major topic and sometimes we
do have public input. He said he agrees a future discussion item could be how to
engage the public and said it is critically important to the Commission and the
Community.
Chairman Staley asked Director Blake to address the Tree Board status situation
for clarification.
Director Blake stated he would look into that and report back to the Commission.
Vice Chairman Smith said the Commission needs to get back on track on the
second and fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m.
Director Blake announced that the next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting
will be held on Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 6:00 p.m.
G. Adjournment:
There being no further business at this time, the meeting was adjourned at
approximately 6:42 p.m.
Chairman Adam Staley
Agenda
PUBLIC NOTICE
TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2018 – 5:00 P.M.
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS – 1360 N. NIELS HANSEN LANE, LAKESIDE, AZ 85929
AGENDA
A. Call to Order: Chairman
Roll Call and Ascertain Quorum
Pledge of Allegiance
B. Call to the Public: Chairman
This is a business meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. The Town values and
welcomes public input. Please address the Commission as a whole and not individual
Commission Members. Do not address staff or members of the audience. Commission
action on items brought up in Call to the Public is limited by the Open Meeting Law. The
Commission may direct staff to study the matter and reschedule for further consideration at
a later date. Items on the agenda will not be heard or discussed in Call to the Public.
Individuals are limited to three (3) minutes.
C. Minutes:
C.1 Consider Approval of the Regular Meeting Minutes of the Deputy Town Clerk
Planning and Zoning Commission held on January 25, 2018.
D. Staff Reports:
D.1 Report and Update from Community Development Department. Community
Development
Director
E. Old Business: None
F. New Business:
F.1 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Conditional Use Community
Permit - 124 (CUP) for applicant John Turner for two (2) Development
horses at 2728 S. Hartlake Lane, Lakeside, AZ 85929 in the Director
N/E ¼ of Section 1, 42-039D. CUP per Chapter 17.80 and
Chapter 17.104, Section 17.104.150.
F.2 Discussion and Consider Approval of Larry Agan to fill Community
Planning and Zoning Commission Vacancy with a Term Development
Ending July 24, 2020. Director
F.3 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of New Town Community
Code Chapter 17.106 Wireless Communication Facilities and Development
Design Standards for Wireless Facilities in the Right-of-Way. Director
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F.4 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Changes to Title Community
17 Chapter 17.88 Design Review. Development
Director
F.5 Review, Discussion and Consider Approval of Changes to Title Community
17 Chapter 17.84 Site Plan and Plot Plan Review and Approval. Development
Director
F.6 Discussion Regarding Any Future Agenda Items. Community
Development
Director &
Commission
Members
G. Adjournment: Chairman
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