Planning & Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingPinetop-Lakeside, AZ · December 9, 2021
Minutes
MINUTES 0F THE REGULAR MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING
OF THE TOWN 0F PINETOP-LAKESIDE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION, HELD 0N THURSDAY, DECHMBER 9, 2021
AT T0lvN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE COUNCIL CHAMBERS
325 W. WHITH MOUNTAIN BOULHVARD, LAKESIDE, AZ 85929
A. Calltoorder
Chairman Staley called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.in.
Roll Can:
The following Members were present:
Adam Staley Chairman
John Salskov Vice Chairman
Tim Williams Commission Member
David Orris Commission Member
James Brimhall Commission Member
The following Member was absent:
Alison Stewart Commission Member
Richard Smith Commission Member
Also Present:
Jeremiah Loyd Community Development Director
Kristi Salskov Assistant to the Town Clerk
8. Calltothepublic
Chairman Staley called for public comments. No comments were offered.
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C. Minutes
C.1 Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the planning and zoning
Commission held on October 14, 2021.
Commissioner Williams moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of the
Planning and Zoning Commission held on October 14, 2021. Chairman Staley
seconded the motion and by show of hands the following vote was recorded:
AYE S NAYS AB S TAIN
Chairman Staley
Vice Chairman Salskov
Commission Williams
Commissioner Orris
Commissioner Brimhall
Chairman Staley then declared that the October 14, 2021 minutes were approved,
passed, and adopted with a 5-0 vote.
D. NewBusiness:
D.1 Review, Discussion and Legal Action regarding Fences within Title 17
Zoning: Chapters: 17.20.020,17.24.020,17.28.020,17.32.020,17.36.020,
17.40.020,17.44.020,17.48.020,17.52.020 and 17.56.020.
Community Development Director Loyd said that questions about fences come up
frequently even though a permit is not required to construct a fence. The reasoning
behind fencing regulations is for sight distances for not only property owners, but
drivers and pedestrians within the public Right of Way as well. Currently the Town
Code has fencing requirements under permitted uses in various zones. However, it
is not consistent in all zones. One could conclude that fences are either not allowed
in all zones or that fences could be built 6 feet in height all around the property in
those zones where the code remains silent.
Director Loyd discussed the possibility of removing fencing from the permitted uses
section and adding it to Chapter 17.08 GENERAL PROVISIONS. In this manner
we could apply the same requirements for all zones. An altemative would be to add
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it to the zones where the code is silent on fencing. This would also present an
opportunity to clarify the wording of the fencing regulations. Such as defining the
required front yard and establishing setbacks as defined as being from the property
lines. Most people do not know precisely where their property lines are located and
tend to think that the setbacks are from the edge of the road. The Town Code states
that a fence can only be 3 '6" in the required front yard. They can see the edge of the
road but cannot necessarily locate their property lines. The PUD zone establishes
setbacks from the centerline of the street. The only legal way to determine your
property line is to establish property lines from pins set by a Registered Land
Surveyor. If the pins are not already set, you would have to retain a land surveyor.
BACKGROUND:
The following exceapt is an overview of the current fencing regulations from Title
17 ZONING. Included are pertinent definitions from the title. There is a list of all
zones at the end of this memo.
17.12.020 Definitions
49. Lot Line, Front. "Front lot line" means the boundary of a lot which separates
the lot from the street; and in the case of the comer lot, the front lot line is the shorter
of the two (2) lot lines separating the lot from the street except that where these lot
lines are equal or within fifteen (15) feet of being equal, either lot line may be
designated the front lot line but not both.
72. "Setback line" means a line which defines the future right-of-way of streets.
89. Yard, Front. "Front yard" means a yard extending across the front width
of a lot and being the minimum horizontal distance between the street line and
the principal building or any projection thereof, other than steps, unenclosed
balconies and unenclosed porches. The front yard of a comer lot is the yard
adjacent to the designated front lot line.
91. Yard, Required. "Required yard" means the minimum unbuilt lot area as
specified by the regulations of this title for front, rear and side yards, as
distinguished from any yard in excess of the minimum required. See "Buildable
area."
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Chapter 17.20
(R-LOW 1 ACRE) RURAL ZONING DISTRICT - ONE (1) ACRE PER
DWELLING INIT
17.20.020 Permitted uses.
Silent on fences. . .
Chapter 17.24
(R1-2) SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT - TWENTY
THOUSAND (20,000) SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING UNIT
Sections:
17.24.020 Permitted uses.
D. Fences or freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yards. (Ord. 20-428 § 1 (part): Ord.15-393 § 1 (part); Ord. 01-193; Ord.
97-138 § 1 (part): Ord. 90-82 § (1)(4.1.02))
Chapter 17.28
(R1-4) SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT - TEN
THOUSAND (10,000) SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING UNIT
17.28.020 Permitted uses.
C. Fences or freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yards;
Chapter 17.32
(R1-6) SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT - SIX
THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED (6,600) SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING UNIT
17.32.020 Permitted uses.
C. Fences or freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yard. (Ord. 20-430 § 1 ®art): Ord.15-393 § 1 (part): Ord. 01-193; Ord. 95-
106 (part); Ord. 90-82 § (1)(602))
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Chapter 17.36
(R-2) MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT - FOURTEEN
( 14) DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE
17.36.020 Permitted uses.
C. Fences of freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yards;
Chapter 17.40
(R-3) MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT
17.40.020 Use regulations.
Silent on fences. . .
Chapter 17.44
(MH-4) MANUFACTURED HOME NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT -
TEN THOUSAND (10,000) SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING UNIT
17.44.020 Use regulations.
F. Fences or freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yards;
Chapter 17.48
(MH-6) MANUFACTURED HOME NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT -
SIX THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED (6,600) SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING
UNIT
17.48.020 Use regulations.
F. Fences or freestanding walls not to exceed a height of three (3) feet, six (6)
inches in any required front yard, and not to exceed a height of six (6) feet in the side
and rear yards;
Chapter 17.52
(MHP) MANUFACTURED HOME PARK ZONING DISTRICT
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17.52.020 Uses permitted.
F. The manufactured home park shall be screened from adjoining lots or parcels,
not in manufactured home park use, by a solid fence or wall of not less than four (4)
feet in height nor more than six (6) feet in height. The screening fence or wall shall
be constructed within six (6) months from the date of approval of the manufactured
home park plans. (Ord.15-393 § 1 (part): Ord. 90-82 § (1)(1102))
Chapter 17.56
(RVP) RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK ZONING DISTRICT
17.56.020 Uses permitted.
F. The RV park shall be screened from adjoining lots or parcels, not in RV park
use, by a solid fence or wall of not less than four (4) feet in height nor more than six
(6) feet in height. The screening fence or wall shall be constructed within six (6)
months from date of approval of the RV park plans. (Ord.15-393 § 1 (part): Ord.
90-82 § (1)(1202))
Chapter 17.60
(C-R) COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICT
Nothing
Chapter 17.64
(C-1 ) LIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT
Nothing
Chapter 17.68
(C-2) HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT
Nothing
Chapter 17.72
(PUD) PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT
17.72.030 Types of planned unit development.
A. Residential planned unit Developments.
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7. The recommendation of the commission may include reasonable conditions as
deemed necessary to promote the purpose of these regulations including but not
limited to the following:
b. Fences andwalls;
Chapter 17.76
(OS) OPEN SPACE/PARK ZONING DISTRICT
17.76.020 Uses permitted.
Uses shall include the following:
E. Fences for the protection of certain natural features and other uses subject to
securing a conditional use permit.
List of all Zones
R-Low One {1} acre quTaE zoning district
R1-2 Singlgrfamily residential zoning district
R1-4 SingleLfamily residential zoning district
R1-6 Singlerfamjly re§identiaf zoning district
R-2 MuhipleLfamily residential zoning digtTict
R-3 Muhipleiamjly residendal zoning district
MH-4 Manufachred home neighberfuood zoning district
MH-6 ManufachTed home neighberfuood zoning district
MHP ManufactLired horme park zen.ing district
RVP Reereational vehicle park zoning district
C-R Cormmerdal reereational zoning district
C-1 Light commercial zoning district
C-2 Heavy commereial zoning disfu'ct
PUD Planned unit development zoning district
0S Open space/park zoning district
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Proposed Fencing Code moved to the general provisions of title 17 zoning.
17.08.060 Walls and fences.
(A) f7ez.gfef. No solid, view-obscuring wall, fence or hedge over three (3) feet (6)
inches high from the natural grade of the land, and no chain link or wire fence or
similar open, non-view-obscuring fence over four (4) feet high from the natural
grade of the land shall be constructed or maintained nearer to the street line than the
required front or street side building setback line, nor be more than six (6) feet in
height from the natural grade of the land in any rear or side yards. Fences may be
built above these heights in the following situations:
( 1 ) Around schools and other public or quasi-public institutions when necessary
for the safety or restraint of the occupants thereof;
(2) When the Planning and Zoning Commission and/or Town Council requires,
as a condition of a conditional use permit or subdivision, a fence of greater height
in order to provide adequate screening;
(3) Double fronting lots (excluding comer lots):
(a) A fence up to six (6) feet in height from the natural grade of the land
may be erected in the property's rear yard as determined by the Community
Development Director; and
(b) The fence's material, height, color and location in this circumstance
must be approved by the Community Development Director; or
(4) In commercially zoned property, barbed and razor wire is permitted only
above the six (6) foot height limitation from the natural grade of the land.
(8) In any zoning district, barbed wire is permitted for the fencing of livestock.
(C) A4cz/erg.cz/s cz#d Desz.gr. Fences and walls in all zoning districts shall be
constructed of conventional fencing material and maintained and kept in good repair.
The Community Development Director may permit any material as "conventional"
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upon a review of the product's material and design. No wall or fence shall contain
barbed wire or electrical current or charge of electricity (except for the containment
of livestock), broken glass, or similar hazardous materials or devices.
(D) S/orczge Fczcz./z.fz.es. Where "storage facilities" are to be enclosed by a masonry
wall or solid fence as required elsewhere in this title, such enclosure shall be
considered adequate when constructed of masonry without openings or gaps,
excluding required gates, wood fence with no opening or gap exceeding one-quarter
( 1/4) inch or other material approved by the Community Development Director.
17.08.061 0utdoorstorage.
With the exception of automobiles, trailers, motorcycles, manufactured homes,
boats, motor homes, growing plants, nursery stock, Christmas trees, and service
stations displaying new automotive and related items, outdoor storage shall not be
allowed in a lot's required front yard setback. All outdoor storage shall be screened
by a six (6) foot-high solid masonry fence, or a fence or screening of a height and
material as allowed or required by the Planning and Zoning Commission or the
Community Development Director.
17.08.062 Fences, electric.
It is unlawful for any person to erect or maintain within the Town any electric fence
except dry cell powered. Any other such fence is hereby declared a public nuisance
and subject to abatement by order of the magistrate court.
Screening. All manufactured home parks & RV parks shall be screened
from any adjacent non-manufactured home or RV park development in a
manner as required by the planning and Zoning Commission or the
Community Development Director, subject also to these fence
regulations:
1. Must be six (6) feet in height from the natural grade of the land;
2. Hazardous Materials. No wall or fence shall contain: barbed wire or
electrical current or charge of electricity (except for the containment
of livestock), broken glass, or similar hazardous materials or devices;
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3. Materials and Design. Fences and walls in all zoning districts shall
be constructed of material in good condition only. Material must be wood,
woven wire, or masonry, of conventional design. Fences or walls of other
than specified material or of other than conventional design, shall be
allowed only by conditional use permit.
17.08.063 Height limitations on comer lots.
Within a triangle formed by the street front and side lot lines and a line connecting
these lot lines at points measured along the tangents of the lot lines a distance of
twenty-five (25) feet from their intersection, all fixtures, walls, fences, construction,
hedges, shrubbery and other planting shall be limited to a height not over three (3)
feet above the elevation of the street line level at the same intersecting streets except
a reasonable number of trees pruned high enough to permit unobstructed vision to
vehicular traffic. Within the said triangle, and in cases where front yards are terraced,
the ground elevation of such front yards shall not exceed three (3) feet above the
established street line elevation at the said intersecting streets.
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Commissioner Williams motioned to recommend to the Town Council the removal
of fencing from the permitted uses section and adding it to Chapter 17.08 GENERAL
PROVISIONS thus making fence requirements the same for all zoning. Vice
Chairman Salskov seconded the motion and by a show of hands the following vote
was recorded:
AYES NAYS ABSTAIN
Chairman Staley
Vice Chairman Salskov
Commission Williams
Commissioner Orris
Commissioner Brimhall
Chairman Staley then declared the motion passed with a 5-0 vote.
D.2 Review, Discussion and Legal Action regarding commercial
Recreational Use Reiulations with Title 17 Chapters: 17.60.010 and 17.60.020.
Director Loyd said that the Commission has requested to review the use regulations
of the Commercial Recreational C-R Zoning District. Some of the existing uses do
not appear to be entirely logical for a zone that is designed for recreational purposes.
For example, it is unclear how an auto parts store or a bank could be deemed
recreational.
BACKGROUND:
The following excerpt is an overview of the current C-R regulations from Title 17
ZONING.
17.60.010 Purpose.
The principal purpose of this zoning district is to provide for recreational,
entertainment, lodging and dining type facilities. (Ord.15-393 § 1 (part): Ord.
90-82 § (1)(1301))
17.60.020 Use regulations.
A. Anyuses provided for in R-Low 1;
8. Antique stores;
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C. Art and dance instruction;
D. Art galleries;
E. Automobile parts and supplies, but not including the dismantling and sale of
used parts from vehicles on the premises;
F. Bakeries and candy stores;
G. Banks;
H. Barber and beauty shops;
I. Book, stationery and gift stores;
J. Bowling alleys;
K. Catering establishments;
L. Craft shops which include ceramics, mosaics, fabrics, jewelry, leather goods,
silk screening, dress designing, sculpturing and wood carving, provided such
operations do not create offensive noise, dust, odor or health hazards;
M. Day nursery and nursery schools;
N. Florist shops;
0. Hotels andmotels;
P. Ice cream stores;
Q. Jewelry stores;
R. Miniature golfcourses;
S. Music conservatory and music instruction;
T. Nightclubs;
U. Offices;
V. Photographers and artists studios;
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W. Restaurants and cafes;
X. Sporting goods stores;
Y. Taxidermists; and
Z. Other similar uses as determined by the Community Development Director
and/or the Planning and Zoning Commission. (Ord. 15-393 § 1 (part): Ord. 90-82
§ (1)(1302))
For consideration:
+ Hunting clubs
+ Concert venues
+ Rock climbing venues
+ Campgrounds & Summer Camps
+ Amusement parks
- Automobile parts and supplies
- Banks
- Taxidermists
- Offices
After a lengthy discussion between the Commission and Community Development
Director Loyd on what each individual felt the definition of Commercial
Recreational use was, Commissioner Orris shared the Siri definition of recreation."
Relating or denoting an activity done for enjoyment, when one is not working." The
Commission felt this definition was very vague and felt that keeping the C-R
Commercial Recreational Zoning vague was the best option. It was the
Commission's recommendation to omit A-Y under Commercial Recreational Use
Regulations Title 17 chapter 17-60.020 and keep #Z. Other similar uses as
determined by the Community Development Director and/or the Planning and
Zoning Commission. (ord.15-393 § 1 (part): Ord. 90-82 § (1)(1302))
Commissioner Orris motioned to recommend to the Town Council to om it A-Y u nd er
Commercial Recreational Use Regulations Title 17 chapter 17-60.020 and keep #Z.
Other Similar uses as determined by the Community Development Director and/or
the Planning and Zoning Commission. (ord. 15-393 § 1 (part): Ord. 90-82 §
(1)(1302)) Chairman Staley seconded the motion and by a show of hands the
following vote was recorded:
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AYES NAYS ABSTAIN
Chairman Staley
Vice Chairman Salskov
Commission Williams
Commissioner Orris
Commissioner Brimhall
Chairman Staley then declared the motion passed with a 5-0 vote.
E. Staff Reports:
E.1 Report and update from community Development Department.
Director Loyd explained that we have several items to address at future meetings.
One regarding Code Enforcement and strengthening our parking regulations and
being able to enforce the Town Code. Another being from the Public Works
Department regarding streets and roads being in the Subdivision Title, Public Works
Director Matt Patterson will be at the meeting to address his concerns and thoughts
on moving streets and roads out of the Subdivision Title and into the Streets and
Roads Title. Commissioner Orris asked for an update on the Lagos Event Center on
Woodland Rd. Director Loyd stated that he and the Pinetop Fire Marshal had done
a site visit and found that the event center was not in compliance with the Town
Code, the occupancy changed and they should have a Certificate of Occupancy to
display the current occupancy. Also, a site plan had never been submitted and this is
a requirement. Director Loyd has had several complaints on the color of the event
center not being an earth-tone. The Community Development Department is trying
to improve the communication with business owners regarding submitting a site plan
along with the business license permit. Commissioner Williams inquired on the fire
of Northwoods village. Director Loyd shared that it started in the middle of the night
and at this time there has not been a determination of the cause.
F. Future A enda Items
The next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting will be held on January 13,
2022.
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G.
There being no further business at this time, the meeting was adjourned at
approximately 7:00 p.in.
Agenda
PUBLIC NOTICE
TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2021 – 6:00 P.M.
TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE COUNCIL CHAMBERS
325 W. WHITE MOUNTAIN BOULEVARD, LAKESIDE, AZ 85929
SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY PARTICIPATE TELEPHONICALLY
Wearing a mask and physical distancing is encouraged.
AGENDA
A. Call to Order: Chairman
➢ Roll Call and Ascertain Quorum
➢ Pledge of Allegiance
B. Call to the Public: Chairman
This is a business meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. The Town values and
welcomes public input. Please address the Commission as a whole and not individual
Commission Members. Do not address staff or members of the audience. Commission action
on items brought up in Call to the Public is limited by the Open Meeting Law. The
Commission may direct staff to study the matter and reschedule for further consideration at a
later date. Items on the agenda will not be heard or discussed in Call to the Public. Individuals
are limited to three (3) minutes.
C. Minutes:
C.1 Consider approval of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of Deputy Town Clerk
the Planning and Zoning Commission held on October 14,
2021.
D. New Business:
D.1 Review, Discussion and Legal Action regarding Fences within Community
Title 17 Zoning: Chapters: 17.20.020, 17.24.020, 17.28.020, Development
17.32.020, 17.36.020, 17.40.020, 17.44.020, 17.48.020, Director Loyd
17.52.020 and 17.56.020.
D.2 Review, Discussion and Legal Action regarding Commercial Community
Recreational Use Regulations with Title 17 Chapters: Development
17.60.010 and 17.60.020. Director Loyd
E. Staff Reports:
E.1 Report and Update from the Community Development Community
Department. Development
Director
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F. Future Agenda Items Community
Development
Director
G. Adjournment: Chairman
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Pinetop, AZ 85935 Lakeside, AZ 85929
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