City Council
Regular MeetingPocatello, ID · December 11, 2014
Minutes
CITY OF POCATELLO, IDAHO
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
DECEMBER 11, 2014
AGENDA ITEM NO. 1: Mayor Brian Blad called the City Council Study Session to order
at 9:03 a.m. Council members present were Craig Cooper, Jim
Johnston, Gary Moore, Eva Johnson Nye and Michael L. Orr. Council member Steve Brown was
excused.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 2: Lynn Transtrum, Building Official, was present to discuss
PROPOSED ORDINANCE suggested changes to Pocatello Municipal Code Title 15,
AMENDMENTS-BUILDING Buildings and Construction, to update code references and
CONSTRUCTION CODES exceptions. A draft Ordinance was prepared for review based
TITLE 15 on said updates/amendments for Council action at a subsequent
meeting.
Mr. Transtrum reviewed the proposed amendments to portions of Title 15, Buildings and
Construction Code. He explained the amendments are a statutory requirement and the City needs to
adopt the code. Mr. Transtrum noted Governor “Butch” Otter has developed a Board to review the
codes and make amendments as necessary and the Idaho Construction Board has directed the
adoption of the amendments as outlined.
In response to questions from Council, Mr. Transtrum explained cities have the ability to go through
a rule making process in order to establish their own codes that differ from State Code. He noted
that the proposed ordinance will delete previous amendments and adopt the new amendments as
outlined.
In response to questions from Council, Mr. Transtrum clarified the City has a separate child care
code to regulate the licensed care of children. The Building Code amendments as outlined refers to
housing /dwelling units and he feels it does not refer to child care facilities.
It was mentioned that presently the City of Pocatello requires a State license in order for an
individual to obtain a permit to perform electrical work. The State has changed the criteria for
obtaining a permit and now requires individuals to have a contractor license. This change has
hindered the ability of individuals who were once eligible for an electrical permit. Mr. Transtrum
suggested the City create a permit for a “maintenance electrician” that would not require them to
have a contractor license. These individuals could only provide maintenance on systems already in
place, but not new construction.
It was noted that there are very few electrical contractors in the state. As a result, Building staff
would rather have individuals come in as a “maintenance electrician” and obtain a permit so safety
codes can be followed. Staff is concerned with unlicensed electricians doing the work. This also
forces staff to police these issues.
Mr. Johnson mentioned there are times people do not obtain proper permits which cause concerns
regarding the safety of residential buildings.
Mr. Transtrum added that there have been incidents when an addition was put on a home and no
permits were obtained. When this happens it causes problems with trying to appraise the property
because the structure’s integrity cannot be verified. Mr. Transtrum noted the Homebuilders
Association has reviewed the proposed ordinance and they unanimously support it.
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AGENDA ITEM NO. 3: Lon Crowell, Planning and Development Services Director;
COMPREHENSIVE Matthew Lewis, Planning Manager; and Dave Foster, Associate
PLAN UPDATE Planner; were present to discuss the proposed updated
Comprehensive Plan for the City of Pocatello.
Mr. Crowell gave a brief history of the City’s current Comprehensive Plan adopted in 2003. He
explained the State of Idaho Code requires cities to have a Plan for zoning purposes. In 2012 the
City held a survey to begin gathering information to amend the Plan. Mr. Crowell reviewed the
proposed changes noting the changes will help Pocatello’s City Code come in line with State of
Idaho Codes. He reviewed the open house and other outreach endeavors to obtain public input
regarding the Plan. He noted that public input has been great.
Mr. Foster reviewed the proposed changes. He noted the format has been changed so staff can now
utilize data sources that are validated resources and will supply consistent information. Mr. Foster
feels this will make the plan more standardized for future use. He explained three new chapters
have been created for the proposed code update.
Mr. Crowell mentioned Fort Hall and Power County include the Pocatello Regional Airport in their
Comprehensive Plans. He hopes by adding the Airport to Pocatello’s Plan new opportunities will
emerge.
Mr. Lewis explained Pocatello and Bannock County adopted an Area of City Impact in 1998. He
reviewed a court case that identified what powers a city has in these areas. Different codes apply in
the area of impact and actual city limits. However, cities and counties still need to agree upon an
area of City Impact. Staff found that the current area boundary is not within a reasonable distance
in order to place infrastructure such as water and sewer. Mr. Lewis announced an agenda item
asking the City to begin renegotiating with Bannock County on the Area of Impact will be before
the Council on December 18, 2014.
In response to questions from Council, Mr. Lewis explained the Area of Impact is mainly for
annexation purposes and it currently extends from one (1) to almost three (3) miles outside the city
limits. He feels this distance is too extreme because the City would not place infrastructure three (3)
miles outside the city limits.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 4: Michael Jaglowski, Public Works Director; and Justin
TECHNICAL ADVISORY Armstrong, Water Superintendent; were present to update the
COMMITTEE-PVC PIPE Council on the use of Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) pipe within the
ANALYSIS UPDATE City’s water distribution system. A Technical Advisory
Committee of various City departments was formed after
receiving a request to use PVC pipe in place of ductile iron pipe. Committee members were present
to update the Council on their findings and recommendations regarding the use of PVC pipe within
the City of Pocatello municipal water system.
Mr. Jaglowski reviewed the recommendation noting it would be delivered in three segments, namely:
1) material recognition and approval – current statement and report; 2) Engineering design and
construction standards; and 3) City standards adoption. He explained the Committee acknowledged
that American Water Works Association (AWWA) C900 PVC pipe is a viable substitute for Ductile
Iron Class 50 pipe for current and new water distribution networks. The substitution is only
allowable when stated pipe is in accordance with the following conditions: 1) distribution network
design (Design) is completed by an Idaho Licensed Professional Civil Engineer in good standing and
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the design is stamped and sealed by the Engineer that is in responsible charge of the stated design;
2) design is completed according to the latest edition of the AWWA Standard Section C900 and
C905 (Document published by AWWA); 3) design is completed according to the City of Pocatello
water system design and construction standards (forth coming, scheduled for completion February
2015); 4) installation and construction of the pipe is completed by a State of Idaho licensed Public
Works Contractor in good standing; 5) installation, construction, and materials/workmanship testing
is completed according to the current education of the Idaho Standards for Public Works
Construction (ISPWC, Document Published by the State of Idaho) and to the City of Pocatello
water system design and construction standards (forthcoming, scheduled for completion February
2015; and 6) the City of Pocatello Public Works staff reviews, inspects, and approves the pipe
installation and construction prior to the completion of the water distribution network construction.
Mr. Jaglowski would like to have the new standards completed by the 2015 building season.
Mayor Blad shared his concerns with the pipe being buried before City staff can inspect it. If the
contractor has not followed the rules they will have to uncover the pipe.
Mr. Jaglowski explained his staff knows the proper installation procedures for PVC pipe. He
informed staff that Council will support the enforcement of proper installation and use of suitable
materials.
In response to questions from Council, Mr. Jaglowski reported there is usually a 2-year warranty for
the pipe. City staff will go on the site and monitor the type of pipe being used and installation
procedures. The proper installation procedure was reviewed. It was noted that the cost of PVC will
be less, but the installation costs may be more because of the special way it must be installed.
Ductile iron is very forgiving during installation.
Mr. Armstrong reviewed the differences between ductile iron and PVC pipe and noted there is a
probability that the installation costs will be similar for each source. He explained the costs for a
broken pipe will be handled the same as any other pipe currently being used. In the end, the cost
effectiveness of either installation will be up to the developer to determine which type of pipe to use.
In response to questions from Council, Mr. Armstrong explained this is not the first time the City
has been approached to allow the installation of PVC pipe. He mentioned if construction crews are
comfortable with ductile iron it is difficult to change. Mr. Armstrong feels there are some design
cases where you would only want to use ductile iron pipe and would prefer that Council give staff
discretion to determine which pipe is best for the project. There are areas in Pocatello that corrosive
elements in the soil will erode the pipe prematurely. In these cases it has been recommended that
PVC pipe be used.
Further discussion followed regarding the soils in Pocatello and construction standards. Design for
PVC pipe in certain areas and quality controls to certify the pipe being used meets manufacture
specifications.
In closing, Mr. Armstrong noted that tapping into other pipe using PVC as a substitute material is a
greater risk for staff.
Mayor Blad adjourned the meeting at 10:50 a.m.
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APPROVED:
BRIAN C. BLAD, MAYOR
ATTEST:
RUTH E. WHITWORTH, CMC, CITY CLERK
Agenda
AGENDA
CITY OF POCATELLO, IDAHO
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
DECEMBER 11, 2014 - 9:00 AM
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
911 NORTH 7TH AVENUE
City Hall and the Council Chambers are accessible to persons with disabilities. Interpreters for persons
with hearing impairments and/or taped information for persons with visual impairments can be
provided upon three (3) days notice. For accessibility arrangements, please contact Dave Hunt, ADA
Coordinator, at Voice Phone: 208-234-6248; TTY: 208-232-5071; Fax: 208-233-5149; E-mail:
dhunt@pocatello.us; Mailing Address: P.O. Box 4169, Pocatello, Idaho 83205-4169; Physical Address:
5815 South 5th Avenue, Pocatello.
1: ROLL CALL.
2: PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
CODES TITLE 15: Lynn Transtrum, Building Official, will be present to discuss suggested
changes to Pocatello Municipal Code Title 15, Buildings and Construction, to update code
references and exceptions. A draft Ordinance has been prepared based on said
updates/amendments for Council action at a subsequent meeting.
(Pertinent information attached.)
3: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE: Planning staff will be in attendance to discuss the
proposed updated Comprehensive Plan for the City of Pocatello.
(Pertinent information attached.)
4: TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE-PVC PIPE ANALYSIS UPDATE: Engineering,
Public Works and Water Department staff will be present to update the Council on the use of
PVC pipe within the City’s water distribution system. A Technical Advisory Committee of
various City departments was formed after a request was received by a developer during the
August 7, 2014 Regular Council meeting asking to use Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) in place of
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ductile iron pipe. Committee members will be present to update the Council on their findings
and recommendations regarding the use of PVC pipe within the City of Pocatello municipal
water system.
(Pertinent information attached.)
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