Historic Preservation Commission

HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Minutes for May 15, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. City Council Chambers, Municipal Building 911 N. 7th Avenue, Pocatello, ID The meeting began at 5:57 P.M. AGENDA ITEM #1: ROLL CALL PRESENT: Jacquee Alvord, Latecia Herzog, Meagan Milder, Nick Nielson, Kelsey Stenersen, and William Strength. EXCUSED: Stephanie Christelow. STAFF: Councilwoman Leeuwrik, Melanie Gygli, and Terri Neu. AGENDA ITEM #2: DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND EX-PARTE CONTACT Disclose who was talked to, the basic substance of the conversation, and whether the conversation had any influence. Disclose if there is anything personally or professionally that would not allow an impartial or unbiased decision. Disclose if a site visit was done, location(s) of the visit, and what was seen. Strength stated he is good friends with Les Lott, who is part of the company, and has had business ties in the past with the Company for Agenda Item 4B. The remaining Commission members had nothing to report. AGENDA ITEM #3: APPROVAL OF MINUTES The Commission may wish to approve the minutes from the April 27, 2019 Historic Preservation Conference. It was Motioned, Seconded, and Carried (MSC) (J. Alvord, W. Strength) to approve the minutes as written from the HP Conference on April 27, 2019. AGENDA ITEM #4: CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS A. Michael Snyder, owner of Cottonwood Junction, has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for an annual outdoor urban art exhibit on the rear of the Woolworth Building at 141 N. Main Street. Heidi Urbeck representing Cottonwood Junction, 473 Kurtwood Drive would like to host their first outdoor urban art event. It will be on the alley-side of the Cottonwood Junction. This will coincide with the First Friday Art Walk in August. This will be similar to Freak Alley in Boise. The artist will turn in a mock-up of the artwork to be done. It must be family-friendly and they hope to have 10-12 artists. Urbeck answered questions from the Commission. Michael Snyder, owner of the building, will personally monitor what is painted. He will not allow anything offensive. Urbeck stated guidelines would be established and followed. If approved immediately, Urbeck would promote the project and obtain artists. Page 1 of 3 Neu asked that staff recommendations are included in the Certificate of Appropriateness: 1) the property owner is responsible for content. The content shall not be gang-related, abusive, hate speech, and shall be inclusive. 2) Protruding sharp objects are prohibited. It was MSC (J. Alvord, L. Herzog) to approve the request by Michael Snyder of the Woolworth Building at 141 N. Main Street for the annual outdoor urban art exhibit on the rear of the building as presented, with staff recommendations, and to have Chair Nielson sign the Certificate of Appropriateness. B. Nathan Palmer of Racine Olson Attorney, representing Gypsy Holdings, LLC, has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to allow backlighting on the “Tatu” sign at 247 E. Center Street, the Shanghai Café. Nicki Johnson, with Blaze Sign & Graphic Design, 7175 S. 5 Avenue stated that when they submitted the application previously it was for a face change only. She was caught off guard by the questions from the Commission regarding how long it had gone unlit. She has been unable to find where there is a 90-day limit for the grandfathering of the backlighting. Herzog responded that internally illuminated signs are not allowed in the Downtown Historic District. The Sign Code states that if the business has not been in the location for more than 180 days, it loses its grandfathering. (15.20.290 – non-conforming signs) Johnson stated that there has been a situation where a sign had not been illuminated for years was approved to be backlit in 2017. Herzog stated that they are trying to be consistent and trying to follow the guidelines that have been put into place for several years. Johnson asked why the Commission would not want it lit. Herzog stated that the Commission is trying to follow the period of significance. During that time, things were lit externally and not internally. Kyle Grigsby, Racine Olsen 2664 E. Red Cedar Lane Apt 301, Boise stated he is representing the client. The item for consideration is the historic character of the sign. The 1992 Sign Survey states that the sign is internally illuminated and had been for 50 years. Grigsby spoke with the owner, who stated that there is no other way for the sign to be illuminated. The Commission can use the fact that it was originally backlit. The sign is from 1938 and is historic. Herzog explained the approval for the Carpet Plus sign, which is a current business and internally illuminated. Grigsby asked if the owners were able to find evidence of how their Café sign was illuminated in 1938, if the Commission would decide to approve the backlighting. Herzog mentioned the Key Bank sign, which is internally illuminated, but has blackout vinyl. Stenersen clarified that the background is opaque with only the letters showing when it is backlit. It was MSC (L. Herzog, W. Strength) to approve the request by Gypsy Holdings LLC to allow backlighting on the “Tatu” sign at 247 E. Center Street, with the condition of an opaque black background with only the letters cutout to glow at night and to have Chair Nielson sign the Certificate of Appropriateness. Page 2 of 3 AGENDA ITEM #5: BRADY CHAPEL OPEN HOUSE The Commission may wish to discuss the open house at the Brady Chapel on Memorial Day, May 27. Friday cleaning - 3 p.m. until finished - Latecia, Terri and possibly William Saturday working - Herzog 11-4, Alvord 1-4, Milder 11-1, and Strength 12-2 Alvord stated she emailed Marjanna Hulet about the scout troop distributing the blocks. Alvord received six Veteran headstones for placement this summer. Stenersen would make a poster reflecting this. Alvord noted that three stones were paid for and donations are needed to pay for the remaining three stones. There is a possibility to be 11 stones total, and each stone costs $209. With no other business, it was MSC (L. Herzog, J. Alvord) to adjourn the meeting at 6:46 P.M. Submitted by: ___________________________________ Approved on: _________________________ Aceline McCulla, Secretary Page 3 of 3  HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Minutes for June 19, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. City Council Chambers, Municipal Building 911 N. 7th Avenue, Pocatello, ID The meeting began at 6:00 P.M. AGENDA ITEM #1: ROLL CALL PRESENT: Jacquee Alvord, Stephanie Christelow, Latecia Herzog (arrived at 6:01 p.m.), Meagan Milder (arrived at 6:01), Nick Nielson, and William Strength. EXCUSED: Kelsey Stenersen STAFF: Melanie Gygli and Aceline McCulla. AGENDA ITEM #2: DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND EX-PARTE CONTACT Disclose who was talked to, the basic substance of the conversation, and whether the conversation had any influence. Disclose if there is anything personally or professionally that would not allow an impartial or unbiased decision. Disclose if a site visit was done, location(s) of the visit, and what was seen. None of the Commission members had anything to report. AGENDA ITEM #3: APPROVAL OF MINUTES The Commission may wish to approve the minutes from the Memorial Day Brady Chapel open house on May 27, 2019. It was Motioned, Seconded, and Carried (MSC) (S. Christelow, J. Alvord) to approve the minutes as written from the Memorial Day Brady Chapel open house on May 27, 2019. AGENDA ITEM #4: CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS A. Matt Sanger of Round River Baking requests a certificate of appropriateness to repair brick, replace awnings and replace the front window at 250 N. Main Street. Matt Sanger, 529 S 7 Avenue, Pocatello described the issues at 250 N. Main Street per the materials submitted in the application packet. He would be replacing the Great Harvest signage and replace the awning. Herzog asked if he had a contractor yet. Sanger replied he did not. Herzog asked for drawings for the façade and windows, along with materials for the awning and colors to be used. This item will be postponed until the information and materials are submitted. B. Will Peterson of The Walrus and Carpenter requests a certificate of appropriateness to repaint the façade at 251 N. Main Street. Will Peterson, 251 N. Main Street wants to paint the façade (brick and panels below the windows) per the materials submitted to staff. Gygli shared the drawings with the Commission members with the current color. Page 1 of 2  It was MSC (L. Herzog, W. Strength) to approve the facade request by Will Peterson of The Walrus and Carpenter to repaint the façade at 251 N. Main Street, and have the painter, Heidi bring the actual color chips into the Planning Department to get approved by Terri Neu, and have Chair Nielson sign the Certificate of Appropriateness following the paint color approval. C. Pocatello Running Company, represented by Sign Up Signs and Graphics, requests a certificate of appropriateness and sign permit to reface the existing projecting sign and new door signage at 328 W. Clark Street. Shane Martin of Sign Up Signs and Graphics Inc., 3275 Highway 30 W, Pocatello, discussed the replacement of the signage with the new colors and design. It was MSC (L. Herzog, S. Christelow) to approve the sign request by Pocatello Running Company to reface the existing projecting sign and new door signage at 328 W. Clark Street, as presented, and have Chair Nielson sign the Certificate of Appropriateness. AGENDA ITEM #5: IDAHO 100 WOMEN PROJECT The Commission may wish to discuss the Idaho 100 Women Project that will take place in 2020. Christelow contacted Laura Woodworth and thought the list was good, but no suggestions. Christelow asked what kind of presentation the HPC wanted to do and when and where the presentation would be held. A recommendation to hold a monthly or bi-monthly presentation in the evening in the Council Chambers like past years would be ideal. It was recommended to discuss the list submission with Linda Leeuwrik. Nielsen asked if the Heritage Historic Conference in 2020 could be added to one of the July agendas. With no other business, it was MSC (J. Alvord, M. Mildred) to adjourn the meeting at 6:47 P.M. Submitted by: ___________________________________ Approved on: _________________________ Aceline McCulla, Secretary Page 2 of 2  HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Minutes for July 3, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. City Council Chambers, Municipal Building 911 N. 7th Avenue, Pocatello, ID The meeting began at 6:00 P.M. AGENDA ITEM #1: ROLL CALL PRESENT: Jacquee Alvord, Stephanie Christelow, Latecia Herzog, Meagan Milder (arrived at 6:02 p.m.), Nick Nielson, Kelsey Stenersen, and William Strength. STAFF: Councilwoman Leeuwrik, Melanie Gygli, Aceline McCulla, and Terri Neu. AGENDA ITEM #2: DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND EX-PARTE CONTACT Disclose who was talked to, the basic substance of the conversation, and whether the conversation had any influence. Disclose if there is anything personally or professionally that would not allow an impartial or unbiased decision. Disclose if a site visit was done, location(s) of the visit, and what was seen. Strength noted he works part-time as a substitute teacher and grass cutter for the School District 25. Stenersen saw floor plans associated for elevations purposes for better understanding. Alvord received an email from Bob Meyers with School District 25, several weeks ago, asking for support, which she declined, and she did not read the email. The remaining Commission members had nothing to report. AGENDA ITEM #3: APPROVAL OF MINUTES The Commission may wish to approve the minutes from the May 1, 2019. It was motioned, seconded, and carried (MSC) (S. Christelow, W. Strength) to approve the minutes as written from the meeting on May 1, 2019. AGENDA ITEM #4: CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Hummel Architects, representing School District 25, requests a certificate of appropriateness for an addition onto Pocatello High School at 325 N. Arthur Avenue. Bart Reed, School District 25, 3115 Pole Line Road provided the brick samples, they are trying to maintain the historic integrity. He mentioned the ADA elevator and feel they have accomplished retaining the architecture, they have used an alternative approach matching “The Palace,” the main performance gym, on the southeast side of campus. Jake Rivard, representatives for Pocatello High School, with Hummel Architects, 2785 Bogus Basin Road, Boise clarified the different buildings units. Jared walked the Commission through how they would determine what materials may be utilized, where the addition will be, and the purpose for limited exterior decorations, which are to remove and utilize materials for a future addition. Rivard discussed the elevations on the different floors. The Commission and the applicant discussed the Indian head sign, materials being removed, and the 1960s building. Clarification on the interior and circulation pattern of the stairway was discussed. The proposed design was determined because of underground utilities and City manhole, which needs to be accessible by the City. For this reason, the jog around the manhole was determined to be the most efficient way. Brick verses panels and windows were also discussed. Terri Neu, Assistant Planner with the City of Pocatello presented standards from the Municipal Code, as well as the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards, and Guidelines for Rehabilitating Historic Buildings. Page 1 of 2 The portions of the existing buildings that are proposed to be removed are not character defining. The distinguishing architectural details will be retained and visible. The addition will be compatible but differentiated from the old and will be compatible with historic materials, features, size, scale, and proportion similar to what was accomplished with “The Palace” in the early 2000s. Neu mentioned that Steve McCurdy had phoned her prior to this meeting stating he had requested a copy of the School District’s application from Courtney Fischer with the School District and as of 3:45 p.m. today, McCurdy had not received the requested materials. Steve McCurdy, 1354 W. Jordan Hills Drive, South Jordan, Utah mentioned he did not get notice from the School District about the meeting today until 1:00 p.m. He asked the Commission to deny the application, as he does not feel the design meets guidelines. McCurdy was concerned about the safety and ADA necessary compliance, elevations, and obscurity with the new addition. He wants the integrity maintained for Pocatello High School. Bart Reed mentioned the funding set aside to avoid increasing taxes on its citizens, and they proposed a design that would work well with the students of Pocatello High School and within their budget. The students are excited about the project. Discussion ensued between the Commission members. Melanie Gygli, Director of Planning & Development Services with the City of Pocatello, stated that she had spoken with the City Attorney, who recommended the Commission make a decision this evening on the application presented. Gygli noted that if conditions were attached, the applicant could not agree to them tonight, because Board approval is required, because of potential significant financial changes. It was motioned and seconded (W. Strength, S. Christelow) to approve the request by School District 25 for an addition onto Pocatello High School at 325 N. Arthur Avenue, as presented, and have Chair Nielson sign the Certificate of Appropriateness. Those in favor: Christelow and Strength. Those against: Alvord, Herzog, Mildred, Nielsen, and Stenersen. Motion did not pass. AGENDA ITEM #5: IDAHO 100 WOMEN PROJECT The Commission may wish to discuss the Idaho 100 Women Project that will take place in 2020. Christelow stated a Steering Committee was established, and she would forward the information to Leeuwrik. With no other business, it was MSC (M. Milder, J. Alvord) to adjourn the meeting at 7:42 P.M. Submitted by: ___________________________________ Approved on: _________________________ Aceline McCulla, Secretary Page 2 of 2