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121 SW Port St. Lucie City of Port St.Lucie Blvd. Port St. Lucie, Florida 34984 City Council Meeting Minutes Gregory J. Oravec, Mayor Stephanie Morgan, Councilwoman, District I John Carvelli, Councilman, District II Shannon Martin, Vice Mayor, District III Jolien Caraballo, Councilwoman, District IV Monday, August 26, 2019 6:30 PM Council Chambers, City Hall 1. Meeting Called to Order A Regular Meeting of the CITY COUNCIL of the City of Port St. Lucie was called to order by Mayor Oravec on August 26, 2019, at 6:30 p.m., at Port St. Lucie City Hall, 121 SW Port St. Lucie Boulevard, Port St. Lucie, Florida. 2. Roll Call 3. Invocation & Pledge of Allegiance The City Clerk gave the Invocation, and Mayor Oravec led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance. 4. Proclamations and Special Presentations 4.a Hear an overview of the Boys & Girls Club Summer 2019-789 Workforce Development Boot Camp Will Armstead, CEO and Dr. Anastasia Legakes, VP of Operations for the Boys & Girls Club, thanked the City Council for their support and gave a presentation on their internship program. Dr. Legakes informed the City Council that with the support of Career Resource Center, the Boys & Girls Club created a Summer College for teens within the ages of 14-18, where the teens were able to work on writing services for resumes, cover letters, thank you notes, and reference request letters; some of the modules included interview skills, and basic job skills. The teens were able to partake in college and career field trips where 2 teens were offered internships. She stated that with Career Source and Children’s Services Council they were developing a year-long College Readiness Program. Candace Burrs, Club Director, informed the City Council that it was wonderful to see the teens learn soft skills for jobs and colleges. She mentioned that Justin Jones received an internship Page 1 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 with GL Homes through the program and shadowed an engineer for a day. She introduced Christian Galentine, who received employment with Kyle G’s at the end of his 3-day internship. Mr. Galentine stated that the teens at the club learned life skills, how mentoring effects kid’s lives and expressed how thankful he was for the internship. The City Council thanked Mr. Armstead and everyone involved for their hard work and dedication. 4.b 4 b Proclamation - Suicide Awareness Month 2019-826 (Clerk’s Note: This item was added by Mayor Oravec at the meeting.) Mayor Oravec read the Proclamation aloud and presented it to Lisa Rymer, Director of Development at New Horizons. Ms. Rymer thanked the City Council for their support and stated that the public could call 211 or 911 if they needed help and added that New Horizons has the only mobile crisis unit on the Treasure Coast that would come 24/7 at no charge to help someone. She informed the City Council that New Horizons served 14,000 children and adults, annually, regardless of their ability to pay and stated that her staff taught QPR (Question, Persuade, Refer) in community outreach programs which encouraged people to be compassionate and to engage with each other. Mayor Oravec said that emerging research on mass shooters showed that it was not so much mental health issues but mostly suicidal thoughts. 4.c 4 c. Proclamation - Hunger Action Month 2019-827 (Clerk’s Note: This item was added by Mayor Oravec at the meeting.) Mayor Oravec read the Proclamation aloud and presented it to Cynthia Costigan, Controller at Treasure Coast Food Bank. Ms. Costigan stated that they served approximately 100,000 individuals weekly who were in need. She encouraged the public to wear orange for the month of September and to visit www.stophunger.org to check the event calendar. 5. Public to be Heard Gene Watts, Tow Boys Inc., informed the City Council that he held the towing contract with the City since 2007 and expressed concern that none of the existing tow companies were considered for the tow contract extension, since they were not informed of the requirements to submit a bid via Demand Star. He felt that if the bidding was open to everyone, the service would be lowered and was upset that he was told that his history with the City would not be taken into consideration. The City Manager stated that staff would provide a memo to the City Council on the tow contracts and bidding and would then contact Mr. Watts. Mayor Oravec also Page 2 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 requested that staff research to ensure proper procurement process was followed in the selection of competent tow companies. 6. Additions or Deletions to Agenda and Approval of Agenda There being no discussion, Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve the Agenda. Vice Mayor Martin seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. 7. Approval of the Consent Agenda Councilwoman Morgan moved to approve the Consent Agenda with Item 7 g) removed. Councilman Carvelli seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. 7.a July 15, 2019 Special Council and July 24-26, 2019 Summer 2019-768 Retreat Meeting Minutes 7.b Approve the 2019 Oktoberfest Event License Agreement 2019-754 7.c Motion to Approve Major Site Plan Amendment for SLW 2019-767 Services District (P17-151-A2) 7.d Motion to Approve Site plan for Lake Whitney Place at St. 2019-771 Lucie West (P19-059). 7.e Approve Declaration of Surplus and On-Line Auction for 2019-788 Departmental Fixed Asset Items. 7.f Approve a Minor Site Plan application by the City for a new 2019-778 28.56 acre park located south of W. Midway Road and east of NW East Torino Parkway to be named Winterlakes Park. 7.g Award Contract #20190093 to furnish and install under 200 2019-739 tons of asphaltic concrete paving. This Consent was Withdrawn. 7.h Motion: Termination of Declaration of Restrictive Covenant 2019-795 #022 Executed by John and Diana Hazy with respect to Lots 16 and 17, Block 1258, Port St. Lucie Section Eleven, and Recorded in Official Records Book 1414, Page 1, Public Records of St. Lucie County. 8. Second Reading, Public Hearing of Ordinances 8.a Ordinance 19-50, An Ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, 2019-782 Florida, providing for the Abandonment of a Portion of a One Page 3 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 Hundred Twenty (120) foot wide Drainage Right-of-Way Affecting Parcel 1, Veranda Plat No. 2, Recorded in Plat Book 68, Page 29, of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida; Providing for Conflict; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-50 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing. There being no comments, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Ordinance 19-50. Councilman Carvelli seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-50. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 8.b Ordinance 19-51, Ordinance Authorizing Conveyance of 2019-783 Easement for the City of Port St. Lucie to Florida Power & Light (FPL) Company for underground electric utilities facilities and authorizing the City Manager or his Designee to execute the easement Providing for Conflict ; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-51 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public hearing. There being no comments, Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve Ordinance 19-51. Vice Mayor Martin seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-51. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 8.c Ordinance 19-52, An Ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, 2019-784 Florida, providing for the Abandonment of a portion of a Twenty (20) foot Utility and Drainage Easement affecting Lot 16, Block 2304, Port St. Lucie Section Thirty-Three, recorded in Plat Book 15, Page(s) 1, 1A through 1V, of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida; Providing for Conflict; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-52 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing. There being no comments, Councilwoman Morgan moved to approve Ordinance 19-52. Vice Mayor Martin seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-52. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 8.d Ordinance 19-53, An Ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, 2019-785 Florida, providing for the Abandonment of a portion of a Page 4 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 Twenty (20) foot Utility and Drainage Easement affecting Lot 1, Block 713, Port St. Lucie Section Eighteen, recorded in Plat Book 13, Page(s) 17, 17A through 17K, of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida; Providing for Conflict; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-53 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing. There being no comments, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Ordinance 19-53. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-53. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 8.e Ordinance 19-54, An Ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, 2019-786 Florida, providing for the Abandonment of a portion of a Twenty (20) foot Utility and Drainage Easement affecting Lot 32, Block 1416, Port St. Lucie Section Seventeen, recorded in Plat Book 13, Page(s) 8, 8A through 8D, of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida; Providing for Conflict; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-54 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing. There being no comments, Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve Ordinance 19-54. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-54. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 9. Other Public Hearings (Clerk’s Note: There was nothing heard under this item.) 10. First Reading of Ordinances 10.a Ordinance 19-55, Public Hearing, Motion to adopt an 2019-763 Ordinance approving a comprehensive plan text amendment for Mattamy Palm Beach, LLC (P19-041) The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-55 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing. (Clerk’s Note: A PowerPoint was shown at this time.) Bridget Kean, Senior Planner, stated that the item would be transmitted to the Department of Economic Opportunity for review. She informed the City Council that the amendment is to Figure 1-4 of the Future Land Use Element. She said that the Southern Grove DRI was located west of 95, south of Tradition Parkway, north of the Martin County line and consisted of approximately 3,606 acres. The Future Page 5 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 Land Use classification for the Southern Grove DRI was the New Community Development District (NCD) and was intended to create mixed-use communities; 7 Land Use Subcategories could be included in a NCD and had to have a minimum of 3. The Land Use Subcategories in Southern Grove were Residential, Mixed-Use, Employment Center, regional Business Center and the Neighborhood Village Commercial Areas. She stated that Mattamy was applying to amend Figure 1-4 to change approximately 138 acres, south of Discovery Way which was currently Residential subcategory Land Use to a Mixed-Use Subcategory; amending a location which was west of Village Parkway, and south of Paar Drive from Mixed Use to Residential; and a Mixed Use to Residential in another area. Mayor Oravec stated that Mixed Use increased by 50+ acres and felt that it was an issue because Mattamy did not want the City developing Residential on the City’s side of Village Parkway. He requested that the deed restriction issue and other loose ends be tied up prior to the Second Reading, to which Vice Mayor Martin and Councilman Carvelli agreed. Councilwoman Caraballo requested the amount of Mixed Use that is needed in the area and stated that the deed restriction was key. Ms. Kean added that they have applied to amend the DRI for the Mixed Use as well. Steve Garrett, Lucido & Associates, stated that he understood the City Council’s concerns and would relay them to Mattamy. He said that there would be more amendments to come in October and this was one of the first steps which was needed because the Residential areas only allowed Residential, and some of the Mixed-Use areas had specific development criteria and did not allow for Residential. He mentioned the GHO Homes MPUD, to which Mayor Oravec replied that it was next on the Agenda. He said that when future amendments to the map would come forward, an overall reduction in the Mixed-Use area would be seen. Mayor Oravec inquired if Mattamy was working with GHO to coordinate plans to see how they worked as a whole, to which Mr. Garrett responded in the affirmative. Mayor Oravec mentioned the C-24 Canal trail and inquired how GHO would interact with it, to which Mr. Garrett replied that he did not represent GHO but that the Tradition Trail was being developed and would keep the C-24 in mind. There being no further comments, Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve Ordinance 19-55. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to approve Ordinance 19-55. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. Page 6 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 10.b Ordinance 19-56, Motion to Adopt Ordinance to rezone 2019-760 141.08 acres of property located southwest of the intersection of Becker Road and Village Parkway and south of the Becker Road right-of-way for a parcel of land legally described as a portion of Parcel 29, Southern Grove Plat No. 3, from AG-5 (SLC Agricultural -5) to MPUD (Master Planned Unit Development) for a project known as GHO Homes at Southern Grove (Project No. P19-068). The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-56 aloud by title only. Councilwoman Morgan moved to approve Ordinance 19-56. Vice Mayor Martin seconded the motion. Mayor Oravec requested that staff, Mattamy, and GHO Homes identify a trail along the bank of the C-24 Canal. The motion passed unanimously by voice vote. 10.c Ordinance 19-57, An Ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, 2019-769 Florida, abandoning a portion of a Twenty (20) foot Utility and Drainage Easement affecting Lot 35, Block 1149, Port St. Lucie Section Twelve, recorded in Plat Book 12, Page(s) 55, of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida; Providing for Conflict; Providing for Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-57 aloud by title only. There being no discussion, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Ordinance 19-57. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. 10.d Ordinance 19-58, approving the Tradition Commerce Park 2019-770 North MPUD (P18-113) Amendment No. 1 and Conceptual Development Plan The City Clerk read Ordinance 19-58 aloud by title only. Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve Ordinance 19-58. Vice Mayor Martin seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. 11. Resolutions 11.a Resolution 19-R72, Public Hearing, Quasi-Judicial, Motion to 2019-774 approve a Landscape Modification application for Grace Lutheran Church at St. Lucie West (P19-115) to substitute landscaping for an architectural wall on the north and south sides of the property. Mayor Oravec inquired if anyone was present for the item even though Page 7 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 there was a request for postponement, to which multiple people responded in the affirmative. The Interim City Attorney read the Quasi-Judicial Procedures into the record and stated that they pertained to Items 11 a) and 11 b). The City Clerk administered the Oath of Testimony to staff and other interested parties. Mayor Oravec asked the City Council for ex-parte communications, to which Vice Mayor Martin stated that the City Council received an email, Councilwoman Caraballo stated that she received a phone call from the representative of the applicant, and Councilman Carvelli stated that he responded to the email. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing and asked for City Council to table it to a date certain. The City Manager stated that the applicant would like to hold a meeting with the surrounding neighbors and may need to incorporate changes. Teresa Lamar-Sarno, Interim Planning & Zoning Director, informed the City Council that the applicant scheduled a community meeting on September 3, 2019. There being no further discussion, Vice Mayor Martin moved to table Resolution 19-R72 to the October 14, 2019 Regular City Council Meeting. Councilman Carvelli seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: to table Resolution 19-R72 to the October 14, 2019, Regular City Council Meeting. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 11.b Resolution 19-R73, Public Hearing, Quasi-Judicial, Approve 2019-775 Special Exception Use for a drive-through service window for a Dairy Queen restaurant located in a General Commercial (CG) zoning district for Midport Investors, Inc. (P19-062). The City Clerk read Resolution 19-R73 aloud by title only. Mayor Oravec opened the Public Hearing and asked for any ex-parte communication, to which the City Council replied in the negative. (Clerk’s Note: A break was called at this time.) Holly Price, Planner, stated that the item was also known as PSL Quick Service Restaurant. She said that a Special Exception Use was needed for a drive-through located in a General Commercial Zoning District and that the site was a 2.3-acre parcel located north of SE Veterans Memorial Parkway, west of US 1, south of the County Line and east of the North Fork of the St. Lucie River. (Clerk’s Note: A PowerPoint was shown at this time.) She indicated that there were numerous fast food restaurants in the vicinity. She said that it did not need additional landscape for buffering because it faced the parcel to the side and not Page 8 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 the street, as well as open space to the west, which provided a buffer to the residents. She added that the Planning and Zoning Board recommended approval. There being no further discussion, Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve Resolution 19-R73. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: for approval of Resolution 19-R73. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 11.c Resolution 19-R74, Motion to Adopt Resolution Approving 2019-639 the Preliminary Subdivision Plat with Construction Plans for Verano South Pod D - Plat No. 1 (P19-073) The City Clerk read Resolution 19-R74 aloud by title only. There being no discussion, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Resolution 19-R74. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: for approval of Resolution 19-R74. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 11.d Resolution 19-R75, Motion to Approve Authorizing the City 2019-772 Manager to take Any and All Appropriate Action, including Executing a Purchase Contract, to Acquire Real Property Described as a Portion of Tract G in Section 27 with Parcel ID 3420-630-0003-010-8, for the Installation of Utility Facilities and Improvement of NW Bayshore Boulevard from North Macedo Boulevard to Prima Vista Boulevard The City Clerk read Resolution 19-R75 aloud by title only. The City Manager stated that there would be an additional lane added to Bayshore Boulevard as it turned into Prima Vista and that the City would benefit from owning the parcel which would be used for utility-related uses or a passive park. He added that it would be purchased for the appraisal value and that the funds would be provided from the Half-Cent Sales Tax and Utilities. There being no further discussion, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Resolution 19-R75. Councilwoman Caraballo seconded the motion. The City Clerk restated the motion as follows: for approval of Resolution 19-R75. The motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 12. Unfinished Business 12.a Determine a name for the Crosstown Parkway Open Space 2019-792 Recreation Area adjacent to Floresta Drive (Clerk’s Note: This item was heard after Item 7.) Page 9 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 Assistant City Manager Graham stated, “Good Evening Council, David Graham for the record. The Agenda Item requested Council to consider naming a 6-acre Open Space Recreation Area at the southeast corner of Crosstown Parkway and Floresta Drive. We received 3 applications for consideration with 2 possible names. For Carl Reddish, the former land owner of a portion of the property, 2 applications were submitted in October of 2017; on behalf of the United States Submarine Veterans and tribute to that service branch of US Military an application was received around March of 2018. The Council, of course, has the priority and the choice to not name the area at all, if you choose not to designate one for this property. Further background and detail is provided in the Agenda Item package along with the applications, and I am available to assist with any questions or additional information.” Mayor Oravec asked, “Thank you, sir. Any questions for Mr. Graham?” Councilman Carvelli replied, “Can I ask one question?” Mayor Oravec responded, “Yes, sir.” Councilman Carvelli asked, “Mr. Graham, this naming was unsolicited. Folks just submitted the form or application or initially we saw the petitions that came in, where people were petitioning…” (Clerk’s Note: A cell phone rang and Mayor Oravec asked the owner to purchase a memorial bracelet in honor of Officer Steve Brown.) Councilman Carvelli continued, “Initially, we saw folks just show up and drop petitions, I’m sure somebody spoke to them and then we saw another group, the Submariners show up and they had petitions. So, then the follow-up was some applications were put in, is that how the process pretty much went?” Assistant City Manager Graham replied, “Yes Councilman Carvelli. Essentially, the Council adopted in June 2017, a Naming Policy, as a hypothetical that particular area was used as a demonstration as to how the naming process would work. From that some interest was stirred as a result and we did have through the Council Office a couple more petitioners address the issue and just request their names put into reservation.” Councilman Carvelli asked, “Did we at any time put out there that we wanted to name a retention area?” Assistant City Manager Graham replied, “It’s never been published or promoted. The Council has not taken action to formally designate a property at this time.” Councilman Carvelli responded, “I noticed it was being called ‘Open Space Recreation/Retention Area’ and that’s retention area. Is there going to be any park facility at this? Was it in the plans, any park facility there?” Assistant City Manager Graham replied, “Similar to Open Space Recreation Area at Bayshore and Crosstown Parkway. There is a plan to put fitness equipment there, fitness equipment is being maintained Page 10 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 by Parks & Recreation Department. For all intents and purposes, these are Public Works Department facilities that are being used cooperatively with the Parks Department. There may be some minor amenities, such as park benches or things that might be appropriate. They both have walking paths that circulate around the pond areas.” Councilman Carvelli asked, “Last question, is there a chance the retention area could go dry at any time?” Assistant City Manager Graham responded, “From what I understand, there are recharge pumps in that particular facility to keep water available for irrigation purposes, as well as the storm water drainage off of Crosstown.” Councilman Carvelli replied, “OK. Thanks, Mr. Graham, appreciate it.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Thank you for your questions. Any additional questions? We got a set of people who wished to sign up to speak on this item. Dr. Carvelli, I appreciate your line of questioning, but I beg your indulgence for a second here because normally I would go to the speakers who have signed in before we go to into deliberations. I just want to share my hopes and my hopes are shaped by the fact that, I think, we’re kind of victims in our own new policy on this. I think that we had proposals, that ended up being dueling proposals submitted to 2 different Council people and I think that the left and right hands may have been working on this without it coming to a head. I think that everyone invested a lot of time and energy into it and got really emotionally invested in it. When we finally got word of it, it kind of, the ships had already sailed. If you had indulged the metaphor and then…so, I think we were kind-of hamstrung by that and I also want to point out that after we discussed this and had that public meeting, there were 2 newspaper articles on it. In that time, I don’t think we did our best job at communicating with the applicants, which caused further angst, and sometimes bad feelings because in the absence of communication you wonder what’s going on and you start to speculate. As a result of that, I’m just going to share my hope that we move forward with naming it for the Submariners and at the same time that we properly recognize Carl Reddish and memorialize him at the Oak Trees, that he signed with an appropriate plaque or bench and other associated amenities as approved by his surviving family members. It would be my hope that staff would come back and propose an amendment to that policy, so that any future veteran recognitions could be focused on making the very best veterans park in the world as part of the very best Riverwalk in the world. I think those things go hand-in-hand. I’m sorry that I took a little Mayoral privilege there, but I hope that we can get to that and given the circumstances that brought Page 11 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 us here tonight. With that being said, I’ll invite up Mr. Joe Alice, who is the Commander of the Submarine base.” Mr. Alice stated, “Thank you very much. Good evening Mr. Mayor, and members of City Council. My name is Joe Alice and I’m the Base Commander of the United States Submarine Veterans Treasure Coast Base. In March of 2018 upon learning of City’s staff request for submissions for the naming rights for the new Crosstown Parkway Recreation Area our veterans organization submitted an application to be awarded this honor. I worked with my Council representative, Ms. Morgan and my predecessor worked with his representative, Ms. Caraballo in crafting our submission to name this park. One of our members created a Facebook petition which garnered in excess of 1,000 signatures which was sent to City Manager Blackburn. Lastly, we reached out to numerous other veterans organizations throughout St. Lucie County including the Fort Pierce VFW, St. Lucie County United Veterans, Martin County Vietnam Veterans, and others and successfully obtained their backing of our efforts. The Treasure Coast Base is compromised not only of submarine veterans here in Port St. Lucie and St. Lucie County, but also veterans from Martin, Indian River, and Okeechobee Counties. Our members have proudly served their country with distinction and honor during World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and both Gulf Wars. The goal of our organization is to perpetuate the memory of our shipmates who gave their lives in pursuit of their duties while serving their country. To honor their dedication and ultimate sacrifice that they be a constant source of motivation towards achieving ever greater accomplishments. From World War I through the Cold War more than 4,000 submariners lost their lives defending their country. It is in memory of these veterans and their sacrifice that we petition the Port St. Lucie City Council to award the Treasure Coast Submarine Veterans the Naming Rights to the new park and approve it’s name to be ‘Submarine Veterans Memorial Park’. Thank you.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Thank you, Commander. Christina Martin. If you have an order between Dianne, you know whatever order you would like. No matter how ever you want it to go.” Dianne Martin stated, “It sounded like, Mayor Oravec, that a decision had been made.” Mayor Oravec replied, “No, ma’am. That was an expression of hope.” Ms. Martin stated, “This is a little emotional for me so I’ll try to stick with it. Thank you for this opportunity to express my feelings for the naming of the Crosstown Parkway Open Space Recreation Area near Floresta Drive. My father, Carl Reddish, World War II Army Veteran, moved to Page 12 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 1257 SE Floresta Drive in 1979 from Miami where he worked as an Eastern Airlines Lead Mechanic and retired after 30 years. When Carl moved to this location his one and only desire was to have a plant nursery. This was a hobby he had in Miami and enjoyed after his day at work at Eastern Airlines. My father understood and had a great respect for plants and what they contribute to the environment and the health benefits to people. When Floresta Drive became one of the busiest, north south road traveled on he saw the need to try to buffer the noise and pollution, the neighborhood was being exposed to; he planted hedges along the north side, Albatross, and the south side, Atlantis. To accomplish this and along with the hedges he planted numerous trees, palms, and oak trees which are still there today. This is just one example of how the nursery benefitted the community. What I would like to convey to you is that his nursey was a place to come and learn and to enjoy nature. Families would bring their pets and spend time enjoying the peaceful environment of walking through the nursey and marvel at the different types and sizes of plants. Every time someone would leave the nursey they felt confident and proud, they could also grow strong and healthy plants and have a beautiful maintenance around their home. His ability to help you use your imagination to create individual expression and infinite possibilities to enhance his healthy, attractive welcoming setting for your home was what he lived for. This was part of the educational process which made him a mentor to all; teaching how a plant grows from a seedling or cuttings from the bush into a beautiful palm tree and it would flourish with proper care, was his goal. My father was always accessible at any time, any day. When anyone had questions or concerns on where to plant a tree or how often to water or fertilizer he was there to guide you so your plant would grow strong and healthy. What became common knowledge to anyone who needed to ask him questions about bugs and nutrients or yellow/brown leaves which showed destressed and needed advice to save their plant, all that was needed was to go to the nursery and if my father was not in the nursery, weeding, watering, planting seeds, and cuttings to grow his loved plants he was resting in his bedroom where he could always hear his name called out, ‘Carl! Carl! Carl!’, and he would come back and say I’ll be right there and he would grab his straw hat and get on his scooter and gladly help you nurse your plant back to good health, enjoy your company sitting under the oak trees talking plants. This is a brief summary of why I petitioned to name the unmarked park located at Crosstown and Floresta…” Mayor Oravec interjected, “Is it OK Christina, if I give her some of your Page 13 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 time?” Ms. Martin continued, “I’ll be quick. After my father, Carl Reddish, I feel that it is fitting that this place of land that my father had propagated and raised his plants and maintained beautifully would be a proper fitting way to honor him. He had a dream and stuck with that dream through thick and thin. Port St. Lucie can be proud of his contributions and plants that he provided to homeowners and businesses. Well planted trees forming an urban forest around your home, community, and throughout the City protect our City from the ravages of storms and the unrelating heat. My father’s plants today are providing that protection and that was his dream. This is a part of our history, that lives on today and that all our citizens can take great pride in.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Thank you, ma’am. Christina, you have about 2mins and 15 seconds.” Christina Martin stated, “Good Evening, thank you Mayor and Council members. Thank you for having us. I just want to read a letter, this is something that we have that we’ve always cherished; it’s actually from Bayshore Elementary School it's back from 1989 from the principal. Where my grandfather wanted so badly to contribute not to the community but local schools and it just says, ‘Dear Mr. Reddish, On behalf of the students and staff at Bayshore Elementary School we wish to thank you for your donation to our school beautification day fund. Your support of this project is evidence of your positive community spirit and the pride that you take in its appearance. We hope that in time Bayshore Elementary School will be a beautiful centerpiece that all of us in the Bayshore Community can be proud of. Thank you again for your support and for your donation.’ Then I just have where he donated $750 worth of trees, shrubs, and greenery because his whole focus and his passion was to not just beautify the school but to all of Port St. Lucie. I just want to say quickly, Carl Reddish was born in Starke Florida on October 4, 1915. He was the eldest of seven children and became interested in horticulture at an early age. He was put in charge of his family's 150-acre farm at age 12. When he was 15, Carl moved to Sebring, Florida. He joined the Army Air Corps and was deployed during World War II. After his army stint, he worked for Eastern Airlines as lead mechanic. He worked there for 30 years at the Miami Airport. It was in Miami that Carl turned back to his roots and propagated and raised palm trees. Upon retirement, Carl purchased four lots on Floresta with the intent of continuing his hobby. He read everything he could about fertilizer, plant propagation and watering techniques. Everyone would come to learn everything that he taught himself. Because of his passion, many homes in Port St. Lucie are landscaped with Carl’s palm trees, oak trees, and bushes. His nursery had several walkways that were filled with foxtails, Page 14 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 bougainvillea, orange trees, eugenias, and of course the beautiful oak trees that are there today for many people to continue to enjoy. Carl cared deeply about the environment and believed plants gave back to help clean the air. It is fitting that we feel that the land that was his, which symbolized his passion for landscaping and beautification be named after him in his honor and for everything that he stood for in Port St. Lucie to recognize what he contributed locally, as well to the school, and for all the people that were able to enjoy time with him to learn. That they can now continue to go to the park to enjoy the oak trees and everything that he contributed as a place for families to go and spend time together and to enjoy everything that he created.” Mayor Oravec responded, “Thank you, ma’am. Mr. Belanger.” Mr. Belanger stated, “Thank you Committee, City Council, Mayor, Vice Mayor for the opportunity to speak on what Dianne and Christina just mentioned is what Mr. Carl Reddish was all about. Not too many people know who he was, you have to know who he was in order to know his contributions to our city. Tonight, I ask the City Council to bring back a little history of our city, we don’t hear too much about our history, we’ve only been incorporated since 1960 something and we have the opportunity tonight to bring back some history. History of our city where Mr. Reddish helped promote. This piece of land, these 2 blocks of city property that was knocked down for the Crosstown Parkway Park. Part of it was Mr. Reddish’s land and there is so much history there that the City would be doing itself an inconvenience if it didn’t promote that history, in order to promote it we need to name it after Mr. Reddish, with Christina and Dianne had spoken about, had given so much. If it was in another part of the City, I would say it was a stretch, but this particular part of land, this is where he lived, this is his homestead; this was his neighborhood. He did this for 30 something years. He promoted this City’s beautification, he made Keep Port St. Lucie Beautiful, he did that even before that came out. Naming it something different, I think, would be an injustice to him and to the City. This promotes our history, we have some time to promote it and this is an opportunity to do so. Thank you.” Mayor Oravec replied, “Thank you. Steven Cook. (declined to speak) Oh OK, thank you. Alright, Council, I’ll turn it over to you for discussion.” Councilwoman Caraballo stated, “I just wanted to thank both applications for coming forward and as stated by the Commander and Mr. Belanger and the family of Carl Reddish came before us and it’s important to note for the record that we received this application and as well as the submarines, as a body we have to decide what would be best for the park in the future and both Page 15 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 are just great compliments to our City. That’s the key thing, we have two wonderful stories that we have the opportunity to tell here. Just to tell you by way of review for those that don’t know, I don’t live too far from the pond and I actually do remember Mr. Reddish with his hedges and the trees. I have those memories growing up as a child in that same neighborhood. As well, I have a cousin who was a US Submariner in the Navy, for me, both stories really touch my heart and I’m just excited for this opportunity. I would like to concur that I think that it’s appropriate to honor both. We should be able to honor our US Submarine Veterans by naming the park and then a plaque by those beautiful trees. You didn’t tell that story tonight, and I really wish you did, how his intention was to honor his children with those oak trees. I think that’s also appropriate as well. If the rest of the Council and we have majority vote agree, I look forward to being there at that moment when we can dedicate both items. Thank you.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Dr. Carvelli.” Councilman Carvelli stated, “Thank you to the Reddish family. I remember going on the property when you had the hedges up, I was talking to someone the other day; you could walk into the side hedges. Submariners, thank you so much for your service. I was born on an Air Force Base, I can appreciate all you do. Having both sets of folks here means a lot to me, personally. You’re interested in naming your park after who you care about, the Veterans, obviously about Veterans, the Reddish’s about the Reddish’s, but also tells me that we have some holes in the process. I think we need to work on the process, I think in the future if any of you all want to start naming parks, just go straight to the City Manager so he can manage the process. That’s the critical factor here. What the Mayor initially suggested, naming it after the Submarine Veterans, I would make a motion if necessary to do that and honoring the Reddish’s at the park. I know the property was purchased from you, I believe during the process of Crosstown, correct? We appreciate that and I know you were fairly compensated on that, ma’am. I would be more than happy to make that motion if anybody wants it?” Mayor Oravec stated, “Well, you made it, is there a second? Or we’ll continue discussion.” Councilwoman Caraballo stated, “Second.” Mayor Oravec responded, “We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Continue, sir.” Councilman Carvelli stated, “Just wanted to thank everybody again and reiterate Mr. Manager, maybe we’ll need to have a little short workshop on the process so that everybody is clear on the best way to go forth with future namings and how to have vettings done as we look into individuals, contextual. I Page 16 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 noticed in the naming criteria it started with context and geographical location working down to outstanding individuals, historical events & places. I think we might want to talk as a Council, on what’s the best process we could use to avoid the decisiveness that I’m seeing here and reading about in the newspaper and hearing throughout the community with honoring 2 different, very significant parties. I appreciate the veterans being here, obviously, and the Reddish’s being here and my motion, I hope I was clear enough to name it after the Submariners Veterans and honor the Reddish’s in the park.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Continuing on under discussion, but I just want to thank you for pointing out the divisive nature, of the way that this process unfolding, and Mr. Manager I know that you know that it’s important to not let it go unstated and the police vernacular I feel like staff put the Council on the window on this and we had people pouring their guts out and basically putting the merits on a beloved organization or beloved father and grandfather, on who deserves a park more. Sometimes, we have to make tough calls up here but I feel like this was a self-inflicted unforced error. I always make the point that as City Officials, as City Staff people out there you should never mistake process for outcomes. The process is there to be a process that we follow blindly, a process is there to get us to the best possible outcome. When that doesn’t happen, it can’t just be for process sake, we have to fix the process. Councilwoman Morgan.” Councilwoman Morgan stated, “I’m happy with the motion to name it the United States Submarine Veterans Park and for full disclosure…” Mayor Oravec stated, “It's a very emotional one for everybody.” Councilwoman Morgan continued, “For full disclosure my dad, my step dad, was the first Base Commander for the Treasure Coast base, so it means a lot to me for that. Then to have the plaques at the trees.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Thank you ma’am. Vice Mayor.” Vice Mayor Martin stated, “Thank you. I agree with Councilman Carvelli’s comments and your comments, Mayor. This makes it really difficult. I don’t like sitting up here feeling like I’m choosing one family over a group of veterans, who the family member was a veteran himself, who they want this named after. What I’m a little confused about also is that we keep calling it a park, but we haven’t designated it as a park. It’s a stormwater, for lack of a better term, it’s an Open Space Recreation Area but it’s a Stormwater Treatment Facility. I just have a little bit of a concern about where we’re going to go in the future because, are we going to set a precedent by now opening the doors to naming every single stormwater treatment pond after people. Now I don’t know Page 17 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 whether it's a park, I don't know if it's an open space recreation area. It’s really difficult for me to say yes one way or another when we need to have policy discussion on whether we’re going to name stormwater ponds or not. If we’re going to put that as our policy when we’re talking about City owned properties and facilities, this is nothing against either Mr. Reddish or the Submarine Veterans. My father, my husband, my 2 brothers, I can go all the way back to World War I with men in my family who have served proudly in our wars so I have the utmost respect for all veterans, residents, and our community but this, to me, isn’t good policy, what we’re doing here. I see we’re trying to make the best of both worlds for the situation; I appreciate it. I just have concerns…could this open up the doors going forward. That’s the rub for me.” Mayor Oravec asked, “Are there any other pending naming applications at this moment? I got advice for you, don’t accept any more until you get this worked out with the Council.” Assistant City Manager Graham replied, “September 9th, we’re bringing revisions to you.” Mayor Oravec responded, “We’ll have a discussion on the 9th. Are there no others in the hopper though?” Assistant City Manager Graham replied, “No, sir.” Vice Mayor Martin responded, “I think we need to have a discussion on what the proper terminology is moving forward with sort-of doing both per-se. We have a great Commemorative Park Program where we do the benches and we do recognition of people; we’ve done it before. I think it’s a wonderful program that we have but I’m relucted to call it a park when it’s really not a park. We haven’t really designated a park. You can call it Open Space Recreation, which for zoning purposes, you can call it that, but it’s a stormwater treatment pond. I want to make sure it’s clear because despite the agreement that we come to, whatever we say; we’re setting the precedent for the future. We need to make sure we’re really clear on what it is. I don’t really consider it a park, it’s not designated as an actual park. We have many parks in the City, but it’s not a park per se. I just want to get this right from the get-go so we don’t have problems in the future.” Mayor Oravec responded, “Thank you, ma’am. Dr. Carvelli.” Councilman Carvelli stated, “I just want to say that I agree with Ms. Martin. I think she’s nailed the problem on the head, in the future the policy needs to state what we’re going to name specifically and that retention area/outside recreational and making it morph into a park kind of turns us into situations like this that we’re going to see over and over, when we create a little hub on the corner and there’s some concrete with a little statute in the middle somebody’s going to want that named after them. I think we really need to clean up the policy, Mr. Blackburn; make decisions as to what we want to name in the future. Avoid the situation Page 18 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 where we’re choosing over one group or one family. I agree with you, Ms. Martin 100%, ma’am.” Mayor Oravec stated, “Well, I would ask Dr. Carvelli and Vice Mayor, if it’s really nomenclature, if calling it a park or a stormwater pond is the issue, or is the issue that we had dueling proposals go through the process for a year and then come to a head? I just think that if the policy is better or if the City Manager makes us aware of the issue on the frontside we could have had a better outcome. I would just say that now it looks like we’re going to name it after Submariners and we’re going to properly recognize Carl Reddish, it’s a park. I mean, we have linear parks all across Crosstown, we still have to figure out a better name than Pineapple Snook for that little park. We have Tom Hooper Park, which is a stormwater pond. We have McCarty Ranch which is going to be one of the world’s largest stormwater ponds, not really the world’s largest but very large, Lake Harvey is a stormwater area. We turn stormwater areas into parks and now that we’re putting all this into it, it seems like we’re not going to call it Submarine Veteran’s Stormwater Pond, I think it’s going to be the Submariners Veterans Park. I think all of your points are right on, Vice Mayor. I just think it’s a matter of working with our staff to get the process right. Under discussion, I just want to say that I’m open to it being more than just a little bronze plaque. In a lot of our parks we do a nice board and I think that your story that you shared both Madames Martin was like poetry. I think that, that would be a beautiful story to tell, the story of the property and how it came to be. What it was meant for and that it’s still serving that purpose to this day as part of this great park. To the Submariners Veterans out there, I want to say it’s more than a hope it’s a Mayoral Demand that if we go forward with this and Council you're going to think I’m crazy but I’m deadly serious, that if we’re going to do this we’re going to have a conning tower in the lake. A conning tower because it’s going to look amazing and if you set it up properly, you’ll see it. Imagine if you’re eastbound, you’re going to go over that brand new beautiful Crosstown Bridge but before you get there, you look over to your right because you’re looking for pedestrians and cyclists and you see the flags and periscope flying on the conning tower. The conning tower is that portion of the submarine that when they’re coming into port is above and I just think that if you’re going to do it, then you should really do it and make it special. In addition to them fundraising, Mr. Manager, it seems like something the Public Art Fund would be able to contribute to, both of those causes; both the Reddish plaque and that effort. If we’re going to do it, let’s do it 100% and make Port St. Lucie special by Page 19 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 celebrating hometown for heroes and our history. Any additional discussion?” Vice Mayor Martin stated, “Mayor, I just want to make one clarifying statement. Yes, we’ve had Tom Hooper park which was named before, but named before any policy was put in place many years where people were coming to the podium shouting out, ‘let’s name this, let’s name that’, and the City at the time with the pressure that, that City Council felt that’s basically how it happened. They didn’t have a policy back then. I appreciate that but I just wanted to provide a little bit of context for purposes of this I really don’t want to make the exception but because of the way it came about, I’m willing to make the exception. However, I’m not going to make anymore exceptions until we have a firm policy and a firm discussion on what exactly we’re going to have named in the City and how that’s going to go about.” Mayor Oravec responded, “Right and I’m not sure that I explained my comment to you because, I was just making the point that a stormwater area can be a park but your diagnosis, I think, is correct. I don’t think we’re debating the same issue. What I would say is that Mr. Graham is crazy about policies. He loves them, so much that he goes through and makes sure there’s a policy for everything because if there’s not a policy I think he loses sleep at night. He goes through and makes these policies but they have a real-world application which came to a head on this. I’m with you 100% but we should and that’s why I asked a clarifying question for you, do we have anything in the process right now. The answer is no and we’re not going to take any applications or make any considerations until the Council is happy with the procedures. We don’t need to have procedures for procedures sake; especially when it creates conflict. Any additional discussion? All those in favor?” (Clerk’s Note: The City Council responded in the affirmative.) Mayor Oravec continued, “Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Everyone has their dive orders, their marching orders and look forward to working with you on the display.” 13. New Business 13.a Approve City sponsorship of the Early Learning Coalition of 2019-762 St. Lucie County’s “Kid Mania” event (Clerk’s Note: This item was heard after Item 13 b). Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve Item 13 a). Councilwoman Caraballo seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. Mayor Oravec stated that City Council could assist with outreach on TV20. 13.b Authorization to Direct The City Attorney And City Manager 2019-796 Page 20 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 to Prepare A Lease With Options to Purchase Agreement With Cleveland Clinic For The Florida Center For Bio-Sciences. Councilwoman Morgan and Vice Mayor Martin requested that staff provide more information as to why the lease is effective October 1, 2019, but the inspection period is in effect until January 1, 2020. Councilman Carvelli moved to approve Authorization to Direct the City Attorney and City Manager to Prepare a Lease with Options to Purchase Agreement with Cleveland Clinic for the Florida Center for Bio-Sciences with a quick turnaround. Councilwoman Caraballo seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. Councilwoman Caraballo moved to approve to authorize staff to work on a back up offer with Mr. Straub. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion, which passed unanimously by voice vote. 13.c Evaluation of Annual Compensation for the Mayor and City 2019-806 Council Kate Parmelee, Metrics and Strategic Plan Coordinator, stated that it was an awkward item, since the City Council set their own compensation. She informed the City Council that if action was taken, an ordinance would be required with the typical ordinance process and noted that the action would not take affect until after the next election in 2020. She stated that a formula was used for County Commissioners which was heavily based on population and other factors which included base salary, group rate, annual factor and cumulative annual factor. If the City Council uses the formula to change the salary, they have to adopt it by November 30th. Staff provided the past 20 years compensation list for the City Council and the top 20 municipalities by government for comparison purposes. Dan Wire, spoke in favor of option 1 and stated that poor decisions made by previous Council’s cost the City hundreds of millions of dollars comparative to the current Council which made huge, positive, impactful decisions. He said that the current Council were great leaders and if they voted for an increase it would attract great leaders for the future. Tom Bailey spoke in favor of raising the City Council’s compensation and voiced that the City Council showed great leadership which was extremely important in a growing city. Page 21 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 William Corbett stated that it did not look good if the City Council gave themselves raises but did not disagree on the salaries being low. He suggested that the City Council “sell the people”. Jack Jennings spoke in favor of option 1 and stated that he has direct knowledge on how much time and effort is needed to be an effective and informed Council member. He said that the raises were about the future City Council members and the ability to attract and retain competent, qualified citizens to serve in the positions. Robert Polakow spoke in favor of option 1 and gave an example of the same issue in Los Angeles and suggested that the City Council stop setting their own salary. Steven Cook spoke in favor of raises and agreed with Mr. Wire’s comments. He felt that the pay should be commensurate with performance. Mike Schubert spoke in favor of raises and is very impressed by the City Council’s progressive and innovated work that assists in the City’s growth. Charles D’Agata spoke in favor of the raises and felt that they should be commensurate with the positions the City Council held. He felt that it was not for the City Council’s individual benefit but the benefit of the City. He agreed with Mr. Wire’s comments regarding higher wages attracting competent officials. Councilman Carvelli stated that he has been in elected office for 19 years, 16 of which were served on the School Board, which has full financial disclosure. He said that the research from the City Manager was vital and gave an example of a town in South Carolina where there were only 2 candidates and that the town struggled to have people running for office. He voiced that future Councils matter, since the City had a $449 million budget. He offered to give back the difference in the raise for children to attend camp or attend the internship programs and was in favor of using a formula like the County Commissioners. Vice Mayor Martin thanked the residents that spoke on the item. She stated that this would affect the future of the City and was not a part-time position. She would like to see the politics taken out of it and voiced that they should follow the State formula. Councilwoman Morgan also thanked the residents for speaking and said that the Charter did not Page 22 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 explain if the position was a part-time job, a full-time job or if one had to work certain hours; it was her passion to run and she loved it. She felt that it was not self-serving, as it was for the future qualified candidates. Mayor Oravec thanked everyone for waiting for this item to be heard and agreed that it was an awkward item to be discussed. He said that he saw the discussions online; he read each one and examined those tax bills. He explained that the City lowered their taxes and wanted to make sure that the residents understood their tax bills. He agreed with Councilwoman Morgan’s comments about the Charter not explaining if it was a part-time/full-time position but stated that no one wanted a part-time Mayor. He felt that the citizens should choose a full-time Mayor from a pool of highly qualified, educated, and experienced candidates who were running for the right reasons. Councilman Carvelli and Mayor Oravec stated that it was not an easy job, and was a job that received a lot of negative criticism, especially on social media. There being no further discussion, Vice Mayor Martin moved to approve the Evaluation of Annual Compensation for the Mayor and City Council, Option 1. Councilwoman Morgan seconded the motion, which passed by voice vote with Mayor Oravec, Vice Mayor Martin, Councilman Carvelli, Councilwoman Morgan voting in favor and Councilwoman Caraballo voting against. 14. City Manager's Report (Clerk’s Note: There was nothing heard under this item.) 15. Councilmembers Report on Committee Assignments Councilwoman Morgan - SHe attended: On August 14-17th a Florida League of Cities Conference, on August 21st a Fireboard District Board Meeting, on August 26th she had site visits to First Data Field, Marriott in Tradition and GL Homes with Joel & Jack. Councilman Carvelli - No report Councilwoman Caraballo - She attened on August 14-17th a Florida League of Cities Conference. She requested that the City Manager follow up on the Homelessness Symposium from the Florida League of Cities. She stated that she was appointed to the Executive Committee and was very excited about the Readers to Leaders initiative. She informed the City Council that Steven Cook had a beautiful garden in a busy area of the City and requested that staff create a Garden Contest. Vice Mayor Martin stated she attended Coffee with the Mayor, and met with a Page 23 of 24 City Council Meeting Minutes August 26, 2019 representative of CBS 12, the City Manager, and a Parks and Recreation employee regarding a park initiative for a playground. She attended Area Council to discuss ongoing topics. Mayor Oravec requested that staff fill the fuel tanks prior to Storm Dorian. He informed the public that the Police Department was selling $5 memorial bracelets for Officer Steve Brown. He supported the Garden Contest as well as Councilman Carvelli’s idea of Golden Hammer types of awards. 16. Public to be Heard - (if necessary as determined by City Council at conclusion of public to be heard) 17. Adjourn There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:25 p.m. ______________________ _______________________ Karen A. Phillips, City Clerk Shanna Donleavy, Deputy City Clerk Page 24 of 24