(3) Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingRed Hook, NY · July 8, 2009
Minutes
Town of Red Hook
Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes (Draft)
July 10, 2019
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:04 pm by Chairman Nick Annas.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Chairman Nick Annas, Jim Hegstetter, Chris Carney, Kate Karakassis
Members Absent: Chris Klose
Also Present: Victoria Polidoro, ZBA Attorney, Bob Fennell, Town of Red Hook ZEO
PRELIMINARY BUSINESS
June 12, 2019 Meeting Minutes
At 7:04pm Chairman Annas asks for a motion to approve the June 12, 2019 meeting minutes.
Chris Carney so moves, and Jim Hegstetter seconds. At 7:04 all Board members present vote in
favor of approving the June 12, 2019 minutes.
Planning Board Minutes/Comments from the Chair
There are no comments on the Planning Board minutes, or other comments from Chairman
Annas.
Review Meeting
Appeal 19-04, Iris Jusino Guyette, represented by Warren Temple Smith, AIA, application for an area
variance to construct a 760 SF addition, including side and rear porches, resulting in a maximum building
coverage of 17%, on a pre-existing, non-conforming, 0.286 acre parcel, in the R1 Zoning District of the
Town. Sections 143 Attachment 2, and 143-12, District Schedule of Area and Bulk Regulations, of the
Zoning Law of the Town of Red Hook, stipulate a maximum building coverage of 12% in the RD1
Zoning District. The subject property is located at 71 Jefferson Road, in the Town of Red Hook.
Chairman Annas asks the applicant’s representative, Warren Temple-Smith to present the
proposal to the Board, and asks Mr. Temple-Smith to clarify the meaning of AIA, to which Mr.
Temple-Smith replies it is the American Institute of Architects. Chairman Annas asks Mr.
Temple-Smith what is the current lot coverage on the subject parcel, to which Mr. Temple-Smith
replies it is in compliance at less than twelve percent. Mr. Temple-Smith further notes the parcel
is less than a quarter acre in a one acre zoning district, and comments when a lot is smaller the
twelve percent maximum lot coverage requirement results in a very small home. He describes
the subdivision within which the subject parcel is located as occupied by modest houses on
modest-sized lots – with no McMansion style homes. Mr. Temple-Smith states the applicant
proposes to expand the existing master bedroom, create a family room behind the kitchen and
garage area, and install a mudroom and bathroom. Mr. Temple-Smith further states the proposed
addition is within the required setbacks, and is just an expansion of lot coverage, and notes the
parcel widens as it extends to the rear, which is where the proposed addition would be located.
Chairman Annas asks Town ZEO, Bob Fennell, what is typical lot coverage for the
neighborhood, to which Mr. Fennell replies it is roughly ten percent. Chairman Annas asks what
the current square footage of the house is, to which Victoria Polidoro and Warren Temple-Smith
reply it is 1, 382 SF, including the garage and covered front porch. Mr. Temple-Smith states the
permitted lot coverage in the district would allow for an expansion of the house up to 1,495 SF.
Victoria Polidoro confirms with Mr. Temple-Smith the proposed lot coverage, including the
proposed addition and two porches would be 2142 SF. Jim Hegstetter asks if the subject parcel is
the last one on the street, to which Mr. Temple-Smith replies it is not, and indicates the parcel
location on the map, displayed on the smart screen. Bob Fennell notes not many of the houses in
the neighborhood have additions. Jim Hegstetter states the proposal is clear, and he has no
further questions. None of the other Board members present have questions. Chairman Annas
asks the applicant’s representative if Board members can make a site visit, to which Mr. Temple-
Smith replies they can. Jim Hegstetter asks if the applicant has spoken to her neighbors, and
recommends she do so prior to the public hearing. Chairman Annas asks if there are any other
questions from the Board. Victoria Polidoro asks the Board to set the public hearing, and declare
the proposed action Type II under SEQR.
At 7:15 pm Kate Karakassis moves to set the public hearing for July 14, 2019, at the regularly
scheduled ZBA meeting. Jim Hegstetter seconds, and all Board members present are in favor.
At 7:16 pm Chris Carney moves to classify the proposed action as Type II under SEQR. Jim
Hegstetter seconds, and all Board members present are in favor.
Review Meeting
Appeal 19-05, Frank and Lucy Albano, application for an area variance regarding the installation
of a deck and above ground swimming pool measuring 1953 SF, resulting in a building coverage
of 15.1% on a 0.52 acre parcel, in the R1.5 Zoning District of the Town. Section 143-12, District
Schedule of Area and Bulk Regulations, of the Zoning Law of the Town of Red Hook, stipulates
a maximum building coverage of 10% in the RD1.5 Zoning District. The subject property is
located at 17 Cedar Drive, in the Town of Red Hook.
Chairman Annas confirms with the applicant, Frank Albano, the subject parcel is in the Forrest
Park neighborhood, which Mr. Albano confirms. Mr. Albano states he hired a pool company to
install a pool in 1991, and a contractor to install pool deck in 1992. Mr. Albano further states, at
the time of installation, neither of these outfits informed him he would need a permit. Mr.
Albano states the pool and deck are directly behind his home, and presents photographs
depicting the front and side views of his house, as well as the pool and deck. Mr. Albano also
presents signed statements, prepared by him, and signed by his neighbors at 21, 18, 14, and 13
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Cedar Drive, attesting that the size of the pool and deck do not intrude on the aesthetics of the
neighborhood.
Chairman Annas asks when the photographs were taken, to which Mr. Albano replies same day
(July 10, 2019). Mr. Albano notes, as required by pool codes, he installed two new 48 inch gates,
closing off two gates in the back, which were not to code, and an alarm, and that the gates have
been checked by Steve Cole. Chairman Annas asks the applicant if his pool is otherwise in
compliance, to which Mr. Albano replies he needs to have an electrical inspection for the
banding around the outside of the pool. Bob Fennell clarifies for the Board the alarm sounds in
the house and pool area when the surface water of the pool is disturbed. Mr. Albano states he
found out about the violation because he has decided to sell his home, and apologizes for it.
Chairman Annas states he is not alone, noting many tradespeople are not aware of what permits
are needed. Mr. Albano states the pool and deck are surrounded by woods, and further states his
neighbors are not affected by it. Doug Strawinski, of 21 Cedar Drive states he is the closest
neighbor, facing the subject property, to the right, and further states he does not find the pool and
deck intrusive. Mr. Albano notes the pool and deck are included in a reassessment.
Jim Hegstetter asks, since the pool and deck are pre-existing, if the Board can waive a public
hearing, to which Victoria Polidoro replies the deck and pool need a variance. She further states
the ZBA can consider pre-existing structures in terms of their effect on the neighborhood, but
cannot waive the public hearing. Ms. Polidoro states pre-existing structures, prior to the
establishment of zoning, are grandfathered in, but after zoning is established, they require a
variance, otherwise people are encouraged to put things up and hope no one notices. Bob Fennell
notes a compliant shed, within an existing footprint, would need a permit, but not a variance.
Jim Hegstetter states the pool is not a permanent structure, but the deck, because it has footings
is considered permanent. Victoria Polidoro encourages the applicant to speak to his neighbors
beforehand, further noting the ZBA will weigh evidence at the public hearing. Ms. Polidoro asks
the Board for motions to set the public hearing, and classify the proposed action as Type II under
SEQR. Chairman Annas recommends the applicant speak to his neighbors before the public
hearing to ascertain if anyone is opposed to the requested variance.
At 7:33 pm Chairman Annas asks for a motion to set the public hearing on August 14, 2019, at
the regularly scheduled ZBA meeting. Jim Hegstetter so moves, Kate Karakassis seconds and all
Board members present are in favor.
At 7:34 pm Chairman Annas asks for a motion to classify the proposed action as Type II under
SEQR. Kate Karakassis so moves, Chris Carney seconds, and all Board members present are in
favor.
At 7:35 pm Chairman Annas asks for a motion to adjourn the meeting. Jim Hegstetter so moves,
Kate Karakassis seconds, and all present are in favor.
The next regularly scheduled ZBA meeting will be held on Wednesday, August 14, 2019, at
7:00pm, in Town Hall.
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Agenda
Town of Red Hook
Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes
July 8, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 P.M. by Chairman Nick Annas.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Nick Annas, Kenneth Anderson, John Douglas, Jim Hegstetter, Paul
Marienthal, Tim Ross, Corinne Weber
Also Present: Jim Ross, TB Liaison
PRELIMINARY BUSINESS
Minutes of June 10, 2009: Chairman Annas asked if everyone had read the Minutes and
invited comments or questions. Hearing none, Corinne made a motion to accept the
Minutes. The motion was seconded by Ken and all were in favor.
Planning Board Minutes and Letters: There were no comments from the Board.
Building Inspector/ZEO Permits and Memos: The Board reviewed the Permits and
memos.
Comments: Chairman Annas noted that the Tasciotti appeal has gone before the Town
Board. He stated that Mr. Tasciotti paid a $150 variance fee to the Town and in order to
return that fee the Board must take a vote.
Motion to Return Variance Fee
A motion to return the variance fee to Mr. Tasciotti was made by Chairman
Annas. It was seconded by Paul Marienthal. A roll call vote was taken and all
were in favor.
Chairman Annas stated that the next item of business was in regard to the Vrooman
variance, which was granted on the contingency that the property be cleaned up by the
end of May and various items be housed in the shed. However, Mr. Vrooman has
encountered financial problems and has therefore been unable to meet the May deadline.
Chairman Annas stated that he, Bob Fennell and Steve Cole went out to the property and
there has been a major effort to clean it up. The materials for the new structure are on
site. The foundation is poured, but Mr. Vrooman has been unable to fund any further
work. However, the property looks a thousand percent better than it did. The Board had
approved the structure in exchange for cleaning up the property; Mr. Vrooman has
cleaned up the property but does not have the structure. He is asking for a one year stay
and I recommend granting that, Chairman Annas stated.
John noted that this past winter we had almost forty days of really cold weather, during
which construction was not possible. He suggested extending the deadline to one year
from today. Ken agreed, saying that he had been to the property and had spoken to the
Vroomans. He said that a lot of work has been done. He has landscaped around the
foundation and it looks good. An access ramp has been put in. He agreed with the
extension, but suggested that Mr. Vrooman clean the area by the road. Mr. Vrooman
stated that he has already started to do that.
Motion to Extend Deadline for Contingencies on Vrooman Variance
John made a motion to extend the deadline to July 8, 2010. The motion was
seconded by Corinne. A roll call vote was taken and all were in favor.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
7:15 Continuation of Public Hearing for Appeal 09-04, Ralph & Grace Cort application
to subdivide parcel into two lots. This proposal would require the following variances:
Lot A: A variance from the 1.5 acre minimum lot area to 1.183 acres.
A variance from the 180 foot minimum lot width to 160 feet.
A variance from the 50 feet front yard setback to 11 feet.
Lot B: A variance from the 1.5 acre minimum lot area to 1.003 acres
A variance from the requirements of Section 143.21C(2) which requires
that the building line be setback 50 feet from the line at which the
minimum lot width for the Zone is achieved.
The applicant’s lot is located at 186 W. Market St. in the R1.5 zoning district. Mr. and
Mrs. Cort were both present.
Chairman Annas opened the Hearing. He stated that the Planning Board feels that this
issue should go before them first before it can go the Zoning Board of Appeals. John said
that it should not go before the Planning Board; it should be heard here. It is a benefit and
not a detriment to the Town. Corinne said that they have to go before the Planning Board
in order to get the subdivision; however the ZBA has to give them the variance. The
Planning Board has nothing to do with the variance. Ken asked how the Board can
consider a variance before there is a recorded subdivision.
Tim stated that the Planning Board cannot act on a subdivision until they have a variance
from all the required setbacks. They cannot grant a subdivision unless it is permitted and
the ZBA is the only body which can permit the variances. They have to get the variances
first and then go to the Planning Board. Corinne said that they cannot legally make a
subdivision of their lot without the variances. Tim said that it is not changing the intensity
of use. Even the County said it was a matter of local concern. Hearing no further
discussion, Chairman Annas closed the Public Hearing.
Motion to Grant Variances
Tim made a motion to grant the variances as listed because they do not change
anything. They do not change the intensity of use. There is no detriment to the
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neighborhood or the health and safety of those in the area and it is a benefit to the
applicant. The motion was seconded by Corinne. A roll call vote was taken and all
were in favor.
The applicants were advised to apply to the Planning Board for the subdivision as soon as
possible.
7:30 Continuation of Public Hearing for Appeal 09-05, Abraham Nussbaum application
to erect a six foot front yard fence where the maximum height allowed is four feet. The
applicant’s property is located at 82 Hapeman Hill Road in the RD3 zoning district. The
applicant was not present.
Chairman Annas asked if anyone had visited the Nussbaum property. John said that he
had spent a considerable amount of time there and had taken measurements from the
macadam. If you look at that driveway, he said, to the right you have a flat section of
about four feet. But then it dips down and that is where he wants to put the fence. Tim
said that the fence has to be four to six feet off the driveway or you can’t maintain it.
John said that he talked to the neighbor and they do not have a problem with the fence.
They said that everything which Dr. Nussbaum has done has been very nice and they are
sure that the fence will be nice as well. John said that, per his measurements, the fence
should start twelve feet back; eight is a little too tight.
Chairman Annas said that the drive is really on the outside of the turn; so the fence is far
less of a hindrance than if it were on the inside. Tim agreed, saying that you are on the
apex and therefore the visibility is good. Chairman Annas said that he did not see what
the fence is going to do. If you are coming from Rt. 199, you drive by the neighbor’s
house anyway. Tim said that he felt that the fence would be an improvement and would
make the neighbor’s property look nicer.
Ken asked if a sketch had been received from Dr. Nussbaum as the Board had requested.
The Clerk of the Board said that she had spoken to Mr. Nussbaum, advised him of what
the Board had requested and had also sent a detailed letter to this effect. The letter was
reviewed by the Chairman. Corinne noted that Dr. Nussbaum is being asked for the same
type of material which is requested of anyone appearing before the Board. The Board felt
that the Hearing should be continued until such time as the materials requested are
submitted. After discussion, the Board decided to wait until the end of the meeting before
continuing the hearing in case the applicant arrived late.
7:45 Public Hearing for Appeal 09-06, John Riker application to reduce rear yard setback
from 20 feet to 8.5 feet for 250 square foot addition to pole barn. The addition was
constructed without a Building Permit. The applicant’s lot is located at 4223 Route 9G in
the RD5 zoning district. Mr. and Mrs. Riker were both present.
Chairman Annas opened the Hearing. He ascertained that the shed of the neighbor behind
Mr. Riker is right on the property line. In response to Tim’s question, Mr. Riker said that
the addition is ten feet wide. He confirmed that the neighbor who complained about the
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structure cannot see it unless he walks around the back on Mr. Riker’s property. Mr.
Riker said that he painted the structure last week and presented photographs to the Board.
Chairman Annas noted that there were stacks of car parts on the lawn and asked if those
parts were normally there. Mr. Riker responded in the negative, saying that he was taking
pictures of them which he sent to the car show. Jim cautioned Mr. Riker that he needs a
Building Permit for this structure and any others he might build.
Chairman Annas expressed concern about the possibility of a fire hazard with two
structures so close to each other. Corinne said that both sides of the property can be
accessed. Mr. Riker said that he did not know what his neighbor stored in his building,
but he (Mr. Riker) has a lawn mower and a tractor in his. Tim said that the Fire
Department can get between the two buildings and he therefore did not feel that fire
safety was a problem. He added that neither of the structures in question was an occupied
structure. Chairman Annas closed the Hearing.
Motion to Grant Variance
John made a motion to approve the application for the 8.5 foot setback for the
extension. It is not a detriment to the neighborhood and the neighbors cannot see
it. The motion was seconded by Jim. Tim added that it is a benefit to the applicant
with no detriment to the neighborhood. Chairman Annas added that the structure
cannot be seen unless you walk behind on Mr. Riker’s property. A roll call vote
was taken and all were in favor.
7:50 Continuation of Public Hearing for Appeal 09-05, Abraham Nussbaum application
to erect a six foot front yard fence where the maximum height allowed is four feet.
Motion to Continue Hearing
Tim made a motion to continue the Hearing until August unless it is the only item
on the agenda, in which case it will be continued until September. The motion
was seconded by Corinne. A roll call vote was taken and all were in favor.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion to adjourn was made by John, seconded by Paul and all were in favor. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:55 P.M.
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FINDINGS AND DECISION
Appeal 09-04, Ralph and Grace Cort application to subdivide parcel into two lots.
FINDINGS:
1. The property is located at 186 W. Market St. in the R1.5 Zoning District, Red
Hook.
2. Tax Map #6172-00-968816.
3. In order to subdivide the parcel into two lots, the following variances are
required for Lot A:
a. The minimum lot area be reduced from the required 1.5 acres to 1.183
acres.
b. The minimum lot width be reduced from the required 180 feet to 160
feet.
c. The required front yard setback of 50 feet be reduced to 11 feet.
4. For Lot B, the following variances are required:
a. The minimum lot area be reduced from the required 1.5 acres to 1.003
acres.
b. A variance from the requirements of Section 143.21C(2) which requires
that the building line be setback 50 feet from the line at which the
minimum lot width for the Zone is achieved.
5. There were no objections from the audience.
6. The variances requested do not change anything and do not increase the
intensity of use.
7. The variances would be of benefit to the applicant with no detriment to the
community.
8. There will be no change in the character of the neighborhood.
9. There will be no impact on the health, welfare or safety of the community.
DECISION: Tim Ross made a motion to grant the variance based upon the above
findings. The motion was seconded by Corinne Weber and carried by a 7-0 roll call vote.
Dated: July 8, 2009
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FINDINGS AND DECISION
Appeal 09-06, John Riker application to reduce rear yard setback from 20 feet to 8.5 feet
for 250 square foot addition to pole barn.
FINDINGS:
1. The property is located in the RD5 Zoning District at 4223 Route 9G, Red Hook.
2. Tax Map #6172-00-469762.
3. The zoning law requires a 20 foot rear yard setback.
4. The applicant wishes to reduce the setback to 8.5 feet.
5. A variance would be of benefit to the applicant with no detriment to the
community.
6. There will be no change in the character of the neighborhood. The structure
cannot be seen by the neighbors.
7. There will be no impact on the health, welfare or safety of the community.
DECISION: John Douglas made a motion to grant the variance based upon the above
findings. The motion was seconded by Jim Hegstetter and carried by a 7-0 roll call vote.
Dated: July 8, 2009
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