(3) Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingRed Hook, NY · April 13, 2011
Agenda
Town of Red Hook
Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes
April 13, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 P.M. by Chairman Nick Annas.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Nick Annas, Kenneth Anderson, Paul Marienthal, Tim Ross
Absent: Christopher Carney, John Douglas, Jim Hegstetter
PRELIMINARY BUSINESS
Minutes of March 9, 2011: Chairman Annas asked if everyone had read the Mar. 9, 2011
Minutes and invited comments or questions. Hearing none, Paul made a motion to accept
the Minutes as written. The motion was seconded by Tim and all were in favor.
Planning Board Minutes and Letters: There were no comments from the Board.
Building Inspector/ZEO Permits and Memos: There were no Permits or Memos this
month.
Comments: Chairman Annas announced that there will be a short course on Zoning
Board essentials in Millbrook on April 26th. He and John will be attending.
PUBLIC HEARING
7:15 Public Hearing for Appeal 11-01, Charles & Christine Riedinger application to
expand the foundation of an existing single family dwelling to accommodate a one
bedroom accessory dwelling where the zoning law does not permit such expansion. The
applicants' lot is located at 14 Grandmour Drive in the R1.5 zoning district. Chairman
Annas opened the Public Hearing and invited comment. Neighbor Jerry Benkowski , who
lives across the street, came forward saying he had several questions to ask. He said that
he has been living in the neighborhood for 25 years and it has been a single family
neighborhood and was meant to remain a single family neighborhood. My concern, he
said, is that the character of the neighborhood will change if this variance is granted.
Other people will move in, make similar arrangements and cause problems for the
residents of the neighborhood.
Mr. Benkowski continued, saying that the Riedinger house was built as a four bedroom
house; it has two bedrooms downstairs and two bedrooms upstairs. The couple had a
bedroom and each of the three children had a bedroom. Now they want to add an
apartment for a married daughter, bringing additional people into the house. Mr.
Benkowski questioned the effect on the septic system of having five bedrooms in the
house. The Riedingers, he continued, will not live there forever. What happens when this
couple moves out of that house, he asked. A family with six children could end up living
in the house and causing further problems. Another issue is whether or not this would be
fair to the buyer of that house. Also, the house sits on an aquifer which is quite close to
ground level. The water needs to be clean. A number of families have tapped into that
aquifer instead of going down deeper with a well.
Mr. Benkowski then expressed his concern about the number of cars which would be
parked at this house. At present, he said, five cars are parked there. You cannot park on
the road and this couple could move in with two additional cars. My concern, he said, is
keeping the area safe for the children and for the future.
Mr. Benkowski went on to say that there are deed restrictions which require that the
homes in the area remain single family residences. These restrictions apply to all the
homes in the neighborhood. In response to that, Mr. Reidinger said that there is at least
one property which does have an accessory apartment. Tim noted that for most of the
developments with deed restrictions, there is an expiration date. However, he said that the
town does not enforce deed restrictions. Disputes over deed restrictions would have to be
settled in a civil court. The only thing on which the Board can pass judgment is local law.
It is not incumbent on the Town to enforce deed restrictions.
Chairman Annas asked if these restrictions are still in effect in the deed. Mr. Benkowski
responded that he did not know. Chairman Annas asked him if he could bring a copy of
the deed to the Board. He then stated that he had some questions as to whether the Board
can justifiably issue a variance which is known to be in direct conflict with a deed
restriction. Tim responded that he can say that it is a fact that the Board has previously
done so. Our job, he said, is to balance the benefit to the applicants with the detriment to
the neighbors. The deed restrictions are beyond our purview.
Mr. Riedinger said that if he is denied the variance, he is still allowed to put in the
apartment as long as he stays within the footprint of the foundation. If we are limited in
altering our plan, we will do that. Chairman Annas said that if they had originally
presented their plan in accordance with their current expectation, they would have been
issued a permit without going through Planning or the Appeal Board. The foundation
could have been expanded initially and it would still have been within all the applicable
setbacks. Mr. Riedinger said that he was told that if he built outside the footprint of the
current foundation of the home, he would need a variance. Tim said that if they had
expanded their garage and then converted it, that would still have required a variance.
Following discussion, Tim confirmed that one acre is the minimum required for an
accessory apartment, but to expand the foundation you have to have property equal to or
greater than the zoning district, which is 1.5 acres. Therefore, the applicants are in that
intermediate grey area. Chairman Annas asked how many other accessory apartments
there are in the development. The Riedingers replied that they know of only the one
which was previously mentioned.
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Neighbor Richard Russell said that he had some questions. He said that after he received
the notice of the Public Hearing, he visited the property and read through part of the
Town Code, especially the section which was referenced in the letter, viz. 143-64A. His
first question, he said, is whether this addition meets the definition of an accessory
apartment. Given that it does, he moved to Section 143-64I which deals with insuring that
approval has been obtained from the Dutchess County Board of Health and asked
whether it has been determined that the water and septic systems are adequate for the
project. Tim responded that this is part of the process for obtaining the Building Permit.
A form must be sent to Dutchess County for review of the capacity prior to the issuance
of the Building Permit.
Aaron Craft, son-in-law of the applicants, explained that the home will still be a three
bedroom dwelling as one of the bedrooms is going to be eliminated. Therefore, there will
be no additional strain on the septic system as the home will continue to be a three
bedroom home. Mr. Reidinger said that what determines the required capacity of the
septic system is the number of bedrooms in the home and that is not going to change.
Mrs. Riedinger said that she had spoken to an engineer at the Board of Health and he said
that they have an adequate septic system for a three bedroom house. Mr. Riedinger said
that he had spoken to Steve Cole, the Building Inspector, and Steve is going to come out
and certify that the home is still a three bedroom home.
Mr. Russell asked if the proposed addition, as it contains a bedroom and a bathroom,
turns the home from a single family to a two family dwelling. Tim responded that it does
not, as long as it still meets the definition of an accessory apartment. If it does, it is a
primary home with an accessory apartment. Mr. Russell said that if the apartment is
considered a dwelling unit, it would be a dwelling unit within a single family dwelling
unit.
Mr. Russell then said that there have been three releases of deed restrictions granted to
three people in the neighborhood. He presented the Board with copies of the associated
paperwork. He said that his only interest is in seeing the Code enforced as it benefits the
entire community when the Code is enforced. Mrs. Riedinger said that she had never
received a release of deed restrictions. Mr. Russell added that if this project does not
change the nature of the home from a single family to a two family home, then it does not
abrogate the deed restriction. Chairman Annas said that the Board was getting into
differing legal interpretations about building regulations and the application of the Town
Code. Tim maintained that it is clear that the home remains a single family dwelling.
Mr. Reidinger said that he is doing this project in a manner which will maintain the
character of the neighborhood. What we are planning does not increase the number of
occupants of the home. Mrs. Riedinger added that they want to keep the neighborhood
quiet and beautiful. Chairman Annas said that they are changing the neighborhood as
they are attempting to become the first home with a legal accessory apartment. Further,
there is a conflict between the law and the deed restriction. Mr. Reidinger said that the
project has been discussed many times with the Building Inspector and it is not an issue
with him. Paul asked how the issue of parking will be handled. Mrs. Riedinger said that
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they have a double driveway and it has ample room for the four cars which will be parked
there.
Chairman Annas told the applicants that only four of the seven members of the Board are
present and that they would need a unanimous vote from those four in order to pass a
variance. He stated that he was not ready to cast a vote yet as he would like to hear from
legal counsel regarding the deed restriction issue and would also like a clearer
understanding of the issues from the Building Inspector and the ZEO. Tim said that they
can have an accessory apartment because they have the minimum of one acre but need a
variance because they are going outside of the footprint of the foundation.
Mr. Reidinger said that if he understands the concerns of the neighbors, they feel that the
number of people living at the property may increase in the future and the character of the
neighborhood would then change. He stated that they have every intention of remaining
in the home for the rest of their lives and keeping it a quiet place. He concluded by saying
that he felt that the new construction would enhance the home and the neighborhood.
Tim made a motion to continue the Hearing. The motion was seconded by Paul and all
were in favor. Chairman Annas set the continuation of the Hearing for 7:15 P.M. on May
11, 2011.
REVIEW OF APPEAL
8:15 Appeal 11-02, Stewart Shops Corporation application to install exterior lighting
with light trespass from the property in excess of 0.25 foot candles where the zoning code
limits light trespass at the property line to 0.25 foot candles. The applicant’s lot is located
at 7243 S. Broadway in the B1 zoning district. Mr. Tom Lewis, Real Estate
Representative for Stewart's, was present to represent the applicant. He said that Stewarts
is undertaking several improvements at the location in question, viz. replacing the
underground gasoline storage tanks which are eighteen years old, replacing the roof and
installing new LED lighting, replacing some of the drainage system and putting in
landscaping.
Mr. Lewis said that the lighting code limit in Red Hook is double the most severe code
limits which he has encountered in other towns in which he has worked. In fact, many
other towns have an upper limit of 1.0 foot candles. Tim said that the IES requirement is
.5 foot candles for parking lots. Mr. Lewis then presented a chart showing the evolution
of the thinking which Stewarts had gone through on this project. The chart he presented
had three columns, viz. the present level of lighting, the level required by the Planning
Board and the current proposal. These figures showed a significant reduction in the level
of lighting. Mr. Lewis said that the lighting is a safety issue. If this is built without the
variance, he said that he would welcome the members of the Board to visit because they
would see that the lighting would be very dull.
Mr. Lewis said that the code requires a maximum of .25 foot candles at the property line
and Stewarts is at about .5 or .6 at the line, mostly because they have a large right of way.
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The lighting level is at about .4 on the Route 9 side. In response to Chairman Annas'
question, Mr. Lewis said that they are fine on the residential side. He said that they have
been before the Planning Board three times and the Planning Board has the authority to
compel them to comply. He provided the Board with a copy of the Minutes of the
meeting at which the Planning Board issued a negative declaration. Paul said that this is a
safety issue and the proposed level of lighting would be safer. Mr. Lewis agreed that it is
a safety issue and said that it would be an improvement.
Chairman Annas set the Public Hearing for 7:30 P.M. on May 11, 2011.
ADJOURNMENT
Paul Marienthal made a motion to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by
Chairman Annas and all were in favor. The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Sheila Franklin
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