(3) Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingRed Hook, NY · September 14, 2011
Agenda
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Town of Red Hook
Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes
September 14, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Nick Annas.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Nick Annas, Chairman, Kenneth Anderson, Christopher Carney, John
Douglas, Paul Marienthal, Tim Ross, alternate Trilby Sieverding
Absent: Jim Hegstetter
Also Present: Robert Fennell, ZEO
PRELIMINARY BUSINESS
Minutes of August 10, 2011: Chairman Annas asked if everyone had read the August 10,
2011 Minutes and invited comments or questions. Hearing none, Ken Anderson made a
motion to accept the Minutes as written. The motion was seconded by Trilby and all were
in favor.
Planning Board Minutes and Letters: There were no comments from the Board.
Building Inspector/ZEO Permits and Memos: The Permits and Memos were reviewed by
the Board.
Comments: Chairman Annas said that the hearing for Stuart Smedes will be held at the
October 12, 2011 meeting.
REVIEW OF APPEAL
7:05 Appeal 11-10, Kim & Joe Curthoys application to demolish the existing residence
and build a new residence at 183 Country Club Drive with total building coverage of
18%, 70% open space and a building height of 42.5 feet where the Code allows
maximum building coverage of 7%, minimum open space of 80% and maximum building
height of 35 feet. The applicants’ property is located at 183 Country Club Drive in the
RD3 zoning district. Tim said that the structure is very large, perhaps forty percent more
than what we were talking about previously. He said that he did not have an issue with
the coverage, but the style is not consistent with the houses in the area. Mrs. Curthoys
said that the building is the same size as it was; it is just going up in height. Bob Fennell
said that the whole house has been enlarged; they are building a very large structure. Tim
asked why the current plans were not brought to the Board at the last meeting a month
ago. Mrs. Curthoys said that she did not think that the change in the style of the house
would cause problems. (From the tape, I cannot be sure if that was really her response.)
Chairman Annas recapped the issues, saying that previously the Curthoys were applying
for two variances: to go from the maximum building coverage of 7% to 18% and the
open space reduction from 80% to 70%. She is asking for those two variances now plus
the addition of increasing the maximum height from 35 feet to 42.5 feet. The coverage
and the open space are not the issues now. She asked for and was granted those variances
previously. The issue now is the height.
Tim said that the plans should have been brought to the previous meeting. He said that
the request which was made at that meeting was presented as being no different from
what had been approved in 2007. Mrs. Curthoys replied that at the time of the last
meeting they did not have plans. You did however have concepts, Tim said. This plan is
very different from the original one and would change the character of the neighborhood.
This Board was very understanding in 2007 when the original variance was approved and
you did not take action on that variance. Mrs. Curthoys invited the members of the Board
to visit the property because she said that they would see that their current plan would be
in line with the new houses which have gone up around the property. John said that he
felt that the original plan would have fit in very nicely; however he expressed concern
over the present plan.
Bob Fennell said that the neighbors who were notified of the previous Hearing received
the wrong information. They didn't come because they thought it was a simple variance.
It is not a simple variance; what they are doing is something big and people may be
interested in knowing that.
The Board agreed to meet on September 19th at 6:30 P.M. at the Curthoys property to
review the issues on site. The applicants requested to delay their Public Hearing until the
November meeting. The Hearing was scheduled for 7:05 P.M. on November 9, 2011.
PUBLIC HEARING
8:05 Public Hearing for Appeal 11-07, Richard and Nancy Nuzzo application to construct
a 252 square foot car port/bedroom addition one foot from the side property line where
the zoning law requires a twenty foot side yard setback. The applicants’ property is
located at 63 Birchwood Drive in the R1.5 zoning district. Charirman Annas said that a
little bit of the addition which the Nuzzos had started to construct turned out to be on the
adjoining property and they are now applying for a variance with a plan to remove that
portion. They have revised their request so that the addition is no closer than one foot
from the boundary. He opened the Public Hearing for comments. Inge and Jim Gallagher
of 55 Birchwood Drive said they have no problem with the requested variance. As there
were no further comments from the public, Chairman Annas closed the Hearing at 8:08
P.M.
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For the benefit of the Board, he recapped the events which had occurred. He said that the
Nuzzos had filled out a form when they applied for a Building Permit which asked for the
closest distance from the finished structure to each of the four boundaries. This was
interpreted by the applicant to mean the current structure and he showed 20 feet from the
closest portion of the current structure to what he thought was the boundary. He later
determined that the boundary was incorrect. He reduced the twenty feet by the twelve
feet that the addition was going to take up and requested a variance of about eight feet.
However, based on the figures in the form which he had submitted, he had been issued a
Building Permit, had put in the footers and had built the structure which is basically a
bedroom over a carport. It is on three or four columns, but attached to the house.
Later a survey was done at Tim's request and that survey showed that the addition is, in
fact, two and a half feet over the boundary line on Mary Rodriguez' property. A Stop
Work Order was issued. The unit is framed; the windows are in and the roof is on.
Construction has ceased and they are now looking for a variance to alter that portion of
the structure which is on the adjacent property to bring it within one foot of the boundary.
Mr. Nuzzo said that they have altered the plans so that at no point will the structure be
more than one foot from the side property line. There are now two footers with pillars on
the adjoining property. The Board then reviewed the current plans for the structure. John
asked what caused the issuance of the Stop Work Order. Mr. Nuzzo said that his neighbor
had questioned whether or not a variance had been issued and had telephoned Bob
Fennell's office.
Chairman Annas said that Mr. Nuzzo had misinterpreted the form he made out for the
Building Permit. The figures which he gave were from the original structure whereas the
intent of the form was to obtain the figures from the final structure. When the form was
submitted, Bob saw that the distance from the boundary was listed as twenty feet and so
he issued a Permit. Tim noted that the application form has since been modified to make
it clearer.
Chairman Annas read into the record a letter received from the law offices of Warren S.
Replansky, representative of the Mary C. Rodriguez Family Living Trust. One of their
objections to the granting of a variance was that "the Nuzzo lot is large enough so that an
addition to the house can be created which complies with the setback requirements of the
Zoning Law." Chairman Annas felt that this is not the case. The existing structure, he
argued, does not meet the setback. It is only nine and a half feet where twelve is required.
This fact, he pointed out, also mitigates against the argument made in the letter that "most
residences within that neighborhood comply with the setback requirements of the Zoning
Law." He read and discussed the four stipulations which the Rodriguez family wishes to
be incorporated into the determination. They are willing to "withdraw any opposition to
the area variance" if these stipulations are included in the variance determination.
Chairman Annas felt that the four stipulations were reasonable and he suggested that one
further stipulation be added. There are two footers presently on the Rodriguez property
and he felt that they should be removed. The Nuzzos agreed to the removal of the footers.
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Chairman Annas asked if there were any further comments or objections to the
modification of the structure. No objections were registered. Tim said that this house was
built prior to zoning law, so there were no setbacks and it is not unusual for this type of
problem to arise under such conditions.
MOTION TO GRANT VARIANCE
Chairman Annas made a motion to grant the variance with the four stipulations
made in Warren Replansky's letter, including removal of the encroaching driveway
pavement and with the additional stipulation that the footers should be removed. Not
doing this would pose a substantial financial hardship on the Nuzzos and there is
no opposition from any of the neighbors. The motion was seconded by Ken Anderson.
A roll call vote was taken and all were in favor.
REVIEW OF APPEAL
8:35 Appeal 11-09, William Giblin & Shelly Shugars application to construct a seven
foot high fence in the required front yard where the zoning law limits fences to four feet.
The applicants’ property is located at 8467 Route 9, Tivoli in the RD3 zoning district.
Chairman Annas invited the applicants to present their case. Ms. Shugars said that their
home is on Route 9 and there is a lot of noise. There is a five foot tall hedge; but it does
not help the situation and they want to remove it. When they expressed interest in
installing a solid fence, Tim told them that if they want to cut sound, a flat, solid fence
will not do a lot of good. He advised them to do some research.
Chairman Annas asked if they plan to put shrubbery on the outside of the fence and they
said that they plan to put shrubbery on the house side of the fence. He asked if they had
thought about what Route 9 would look like if everyone put a fence between the road and
their house.
Chairman Annas asked what they thought the fence would do for them since they are up
on a knoll. Mr. Giblin felt it would deflect some of the noise. Chairman Annas replied
that some noise would be abated, but only what hits the fence not what goes over the
fence. Since the driveway goes up six to seven feet, he felt that they would be better off
with windows. Windows can block out a tremendous amount of street noise.
The Board reviewed the sketch submitted by the applicants. Chairman Annas asked them
to bring in pictures of the fence they plan to put up. In response to questioning, they said
that they might put in plantings of maple trees, red spruce or oak. A discussion of
possible means of landscaping the fence ensued.
Tim pointed out that the case has to be referred to the County because the property is on
Route 9. Chairman Annas scheduled the Public Hearing for October 12, 2011 at 7:05
P.M.
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ADJOURNMENT
Ken Anderson made a motion to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by Tim
Ross and all were in favor. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Sheila Franklin
Secretary
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FINDINGS AND DECISION
Appeal 11-07, Richard and Nancy Nuzzo application to construct a 252 square foot car
port/bedroom addition one foot from the side property line.
FINDINGS:
1. The property is located in the Town of Red Hook at 63 Birchwood Drive in the R1.5
zoning district
2. Tax Map # 6172-19-714119.
3. The zoning law requires a twenty foot side yard setback.
4. The applicant wishes to construct the addition one foot from the side property line.
The building extension shall be at least one foot from the side property line at the
closest point of structure.
5. That portion of the Nuzzo's driveway which currently encroaches on the Rodriguez
property shall be removed.
6. The plans and specifications for the reduction in the building construction shall be
provided to the Zoning Enforcement Officer, the Zoning Board of Appeals, the
Building Inspector and to the Rodriguez' for their review. These plans must also show
the manner in which the encroachment of the driveway will be rectified.
7. No Certificate of Occupancy shall be issued for the addition by the Building Inspector
and Zoning Enforcement Officer until an as-built survey is provided certified both to
the Nuzzos and the Rodriguez' by a surveyor or engineer licensed in the State of New
York demonstrating that the addition to the Nuzzo property has been constructed at
least one foot from the property line at its closest point and that the driveway
encroachment has been removed.
8. The two footers currently on the Rodriguez property shall be removed.
9. A variance would be of benefit to the applicant with no detriment to the
community.
7 There will be no change in the character of the neighborhood.
8. There will be no impact on the health, welfare or safety of the community.
DECISION: Nick Annas made a motion to grant the variance based upon the above
findings. The motion was seconded by Ken Anderson and carried by a 6-0 roll call
vote.
Dated: September 14, 2011
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