Audit Committee
Regular MeetingRoanoke, VA · December 21, 2020
Minutes
MINUTES
Audit Committee of Roanoke City Council
Location: Emergency Operations Center
Noel C. Taylor Municipal Building, Room 159 North
Date: December 21, 2020
Time: 1:00 p.m. to 1:36 p.m.
Attendees:
Audit Committee Member Present (Y/N)
Anita Price (Chair) Y
Joseph Cobb (Vice-Chair) Y
Michelle Davis (Member) Y
Sherman Lea (Ex-Officio) Y
Drew Harmon, Municipal Auditor
Tim Spencer, City Attorney
Sherman Stovall, Deputy City Manager
Brent Robertson, Assistant City Manager
Amelia Merchant, Director of Finance
Dawn Hope Mullins, Assistant Municipal Auditor
Neil Holland, Building Commissioner
1. Call to Order:
Ms. Price called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. and welcomed everyone.
2. Approval of the Minutes from the September 2, 2020 Meeting:
Ms. Price asked if there were any comments on or corrections to the September 2, 2020, meeting
minutes. Hearing none, Mr. Cobb made a motion to file the minutes as written; Ms. Davis seconded.
The minutes were received and filed.
3. Council Expenditures Audit:
This was the annual review of City Council expenditures for Fiscal Year 2020. Mr. Harmon noted there
were no findings and expenditures were within budget. He opened the floor to questions or comments.
Hearing none, the report was received and filed.
4. Building Inspections Audit:
Mr. Harmon began by recognizing Neil Holland, the City’s Building Inspector. He continued by noting
that this is a fairly technical report and expressing his appreciation for the expertise needed by the
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City’s inspectors and plan reviewers. They serve an important public safety function. Overall, audit
results were very good.
One area of concern was expired permits, which also seems to be an issue nationally. Additionally,
elevators and cross-connection inspections are also challenging, as building owners and third-party
inspectors play a large role. Management provided action plans to address these concerns given work
volume and staffing levels. Mr. Cobb asked if there is an in-house way to track outstanding work by the
person who has requested services or if there is a mechanism to track progress. Mr. Harmon
responded that there is a system which allows for customer interaction. Mr. Holland added that once a
request is submitted, employees can monitor progress in the system. The 10-day deadline starts once
an inspection is scheduled.
Ms. Price thanked Mr. Holland and his department for the service they provide in keeping citizens safe.
She asked if the department is currently fully staffed. Mr. Holland responded that they are not and the
office has been consistently understaffed for the past three years. It has been a struggle to find
applicants who will accept job salary. Once trained, employees can leave for better paying positions.
Ms. Price noted that she has heard similar comments from other City departments.
Mr. Harmon reported that Auditing worked with Building Inspections and Human Resources to look at
this issue. It is a difficult issue to address as it is hard to find applicants with the required knowledge
who are not already working in construction. Additionally, more complex projects in the City make the
job more difficult than in surrounding localities.
Mr. Cobb asked how long the current available positions have been open. Mr. Holland responded that
there is currently one vacant position. He has hired two employees this year and one person resigned
shortly afterwards, going to another locality.
Mr. Stovall noted that turnover is a constant challenge due to a variety of reasons, including the shift in
generational views on long-term employment. This has affected the ability to retain employees across
all areas. Compensation is an ongoing concern and management has tried to maintain salary equity as
much as possible by looking at certifications, etc. The defined benefit pension plan is the best benefit
the City has to offer; however, employees often trade that for a small salary increase elsewhere.
Ms. Price encouraged management to continue promoting awareness of the many benefits available to
City employees. Mr. Cobb asked how understaffing affects inspection schedules and departmental
goals. Mr. Holland responded that turnover effects everything they do. It can be a struggle to meet
demand, keep on schedule, and maintain certified staff legally required to perform the work. As a
result, supervisors who should be reviewing work are instead acting as inspectors.
Ms. Price commented that the work is vital to public safety and again thanked Mr. Holland and his staff.
Mr. Holland expressed his appreciation for Mr. Harmon and Brian Pendleton, who performed the audit.
He stated that Mr. Pendleton listened to his concerns and went the extra mile to learn departmental
processes in order to provide a fair evaluation.
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Hearing no further questions or discussion, the report was received and filed.
5. Transportation Landscape Maintenance Follow-Up:
The original landscape maintenance audit was undertaken a few years ago and this was the second
follow-up engagement. These audits provide a greater appreciation for everything involved in
maintaining the right-of-way and streets. All remaining findings were cleared, in large part based on the
successful implementation of ViewWorks, a new work-order system. He noted that the new system
brings their data management into the 21st century. Additionally, the department hired a Geographic
Information Specialist to make sure the system is used to its fullest ability. By the end of the period
under review, much more data was being captured and the department was on their way to having
reliable data with which to manage the function.
Mr. Harmon then spoke about the challenges associated with providing full-time and seasonal
employees all of the safety training required by OSHA. The pandemic prompted development of video
presentations for new employee orientation. Once videoed, employees can view the training at a time
convenient to their starting date and schedule. Management plans to video required OSHA training so
that new employees can view the videos on their first day and understand how to work safely before
going into the field.
Ms. Price commented that this is another crucial behind-the-scenes aspect of daily work.
Hearing no further questions or discussion, the report was received and filed.
6. APA Review of FY20 Collections and Remittances:
This is an annual audit undertaken by the Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts (APA). Mr. Harmon noted
that he is always in close contact with the Treasurer’s Office on items as they arise. Three concerns
were noted this year. Management’s responses appeared appropriate and were included with the
report. Ms. Price asked if the findings have been addressed; Mr. Harmon confirmed that they had. Mr.
Cobb asked if there was any penalty related to the Sheriff’s fees not being remitted timely. Mr. Harmon
responded that he did not believe there was and that he would double check after the meeting and get
back to him.
Ms. Price asked if there were any other questions or comments. Hearing none, the report was received
and filed.
7. Delay in Filing Required FY20 Financial Reports:
Mr. Harmon explained that the City’s audited financial statements were due to the Auditor of Public
Accounts (APA) by December 15th. The FY20 financial statements are not yet finished and the City is
required to provide public notice and inform the Audit Committee.
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Ms. Merchant noted that the current goal is to complete the statements by December 31st, depending
on auditor availability. Mr. Harmon added that if the audit is completed prior to December 31st, a virtual
meeting of the Audit Committee might be scheduled before the new year.
Ms. Price asked if this is the first time the City has missed the APA deadline. Mr. Harmon responded
that the City was also late in 2017, when the Accounting Supervisor and Director of Finance resigned.
Ms. Price asked if there are any negative consequences associated with missing this date. Mr. Harmon
responded that the city will be noted as having been late in the APA annual report to the General
Assembly.
Mr. Lea asked if there is anything of which the committee should be aware as the calendar year-end
approaches. Mr. Harmon explained he prepares the annual audit risk assessment in the January
through March timeframe, and that he had no concerns to report at the moment.
Mr. Lea asked if Auditing is still receiving support at the schools. Mr. Harmon stated that Auditing’s
relationship with School management is very productive and that the School Audit Committee is very
supportive. Mr. Lea commented that this is important to know, especially with the upcoming City
Council committee transitions. He thanked Mr. Harmon and his staff for their work, especially given the
challenging issues that came up during the year. Mr. Lea also thanked Ms. Price for her work as Audit
Committee Chair.
Hearing no further questions or discussion, the report was received and filed.
8. Other Business:
End of terms in office for Ms. Price and Ms. Davis
Ms. Davis expressed her amazement at the amount of daily work City staff managed during her four
years on City Council. She appreciates everyone’s hard work and the dignity and respect with which
staff treat the City, and she feels the City is in good hands. Mr. Cobb and Ms. Price concurred.
Mr. Harmon thanked Ms. Price and Ms. Davis for their service on the Audit Committee. He added that
Ms. Price has been the chairperson for the last three years and Ms. Davis was appointed when she first
started on Council. Mr. Harmon conveyed appreciation for their support.
Ms. Price expressed her gratitude, thanked everyone and noted that she was saddened that people do
not have a better appreciation for how well the City works.
The next regularly scheduled Audit Committee meeting is slated for March 3, 2021, at 4:00 PM.
9. Adjournment:
Ms. Price adjourned the meeting at 1:36 p.m.
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