Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingRobbins, NC · August 10, 2023
Minutes
TOWN OF ROBBINS
Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting
Thursday, August 10, 2023 – 6:00 PM
apMeetingVenue
Robbins Fire Department
I. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Dockery
PRESENT
Mayor Cameron Dockery
Mayor Pro Tem Nikki Bradshaw
Commissioner Brandon Phillips
Commissioner Jody Britt
Commissioner Kevin Stewart
Commissioner Lonnie English
II. INVOCATION – Mayor
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE – Mayor
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD NC G.S. 160A-81, 160A-81.1
Charlie Smoak- (inaudible) Farmers Day happenings. Purple Heart Ceremony knocked out of
teh park. Praised the Town Manager.
Ted Craig- Thank you for my mom had a sewer line busted. Praise for Roger and boys for
fixing it.
V. CONFLICT OF INTEREST – Does any Commissioner have a conflict of interest concerning
agenda items the Board will address in this meeting?
VI. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
All items below are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. No separate
discussion will be held except on request of a member of the Board of Commissioners.
Struck July Minutes move to next meeting for approval
A. July Board of Commissioners Minutes
Moved to September meeting
VII. RECOGNITIONS
RPD William Jackson Recognition
All around community officer and recognized him for all his hard work and congratulate him
for making it to State Patrol school.
VIII. PRESENTATIONS
IX. COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Asked to move Commissioner Comments up to accommodate work schedule.
Stewart: I wanted to jump the gun and get on this early, Farmers Day was an absolute success,
I'll thank Clint and his staff for the work they did, awesome job. Roger and his rangers they
cleaned up the town and kept things going, they did an awesome job; Police Chief and the
Sheriff's Dept, thank you very much, kept everything orderly and safe, really appreciate that. I
always saw somebody's presence all night long, your guys were out there taking care of things,
I really do appreciate it. The fire dept, Fire Chief, Timmy, it's a year-round deal for those guys.
I mean even at Farmers Day they are already talking about what to do next year. It never quits,
it's all year long and I really appreciate all the fire members and their families. Their families
come out and they participate and help out too. I really really do appreciate them a lot. Purple
Heart Ceremony was awesome thank you once again Clint and staff for setting that up. Thank
you, Charlie, for helping me get that going. I knew I could count on you to get that rolling and
do a good job for us. I noticed something this weekend, young firefighters, Timmy's done an
exceptional job of recruiting keeping young people, junior firefighters, young college kids
wanting to get into fire and rescue. That keeps the fire department healthy. I do a lot of
traveling and a lot of rural fire departments have signs help needed, volunteers wanted, we
don't have that problem, we are very well staffed bunch of young people here eager to learn,
good talent and I am very pleased to see that and very happy with the recruiting Timmy has
done. Thank you.
English: First thing I want to thank Ben for bringing my pocketbook back, I lost it at Farmers
Day. That ain't nothing I lost it the next morning. But also, I want to thank Clint, I want to tell
ya, like they said while ago, I was here before you come, and I want you to know you are hard
to replace and I hope a lot of people in this town understand that. But I know money talks and
BS walks. That ceremony did I know some military guys too and they said it really blessed
them. To me that's what counts. Alot of people don't realize that the only reason we can sit here
tonight is because people like him and him, I don't want to say me b/c I didn't do nothing, but I
really do think you're doing a great job. I will you this, now I got a complaint. I had a lady
about 90 years old call me last night and I've known her all my life; but she was complaining
that someone across the street from her house was burning trash and stuff and it was burning
her eyes. And I'm pretty sure that chief knows about it. I don't know what happened. But I
asked her to come up and speak to the board and then let everybody hear it, so I'm not telling it
to be telling it. But I know the chief knows about it and Clint may know about it. We need to
try to do something. That lady is 90 years old. If they are burning chemicals someone needs to
stop them and I can I'll call EPA. It doesn't matter to me.
Clint: Is this what happened, was it yesterday? I think we took care of it; it got called as a fire.
English: I know the person they rent this place from. I know who owns it, I could go to them.
But I don't want to do that. And she wasn't upset with ya'll. They want action now not
tomorrow. I told her she had to understand that. I said it be better if you come stand at the
podium, other than that. The sewer line, I was with Ted at the car show I asked him to come
say something about it here. I feel like they need to be involved by coming. Ted has grown up
here, so he knows where I'm coming from, and his mama has lived here all her life. I'm glad
they fixed that b/c sewer it would be running in the streets. Other than that Clint, you got me
100% for anything you want me to help you do.
Bradshaw: I want to say how appreciative we are to everyone that worked Farmers Day, I didn't
get out very much, the few times I did get out everything was smooth and the only thing we
could've changed would've been a little better weather. I will say Sunday morning I came thru
town, and it looked like we had had nothing and that's the way it has been it seems like every
farmer's day that I can remember. They do such a great job, and I didn't hear any complaints so
thank you everyone that was involved, and I guess I'm hoping we are looking forward to the
next year. Timmy's not here for us to grill so I'm just going to say I hope that we're looking
forward to next year.
Clint: He's at the County Fireman Meeting.
English: I got one more thing The railroad crossing have you gotten any calls?
Clint: Nope, we were able to keep it. We had no complaints.
Dockery: The one by Growler he's talking about
English: I'm talking about the railroad crossing over by Growlers (inaudible others talking) its
going thru hell and half of Georgia. I called a man that's in charge of fixing railroad crossings,
especially on state roads, Green St is a state road. So I called him, actually I called railroad first
, he give me the guys's name again, his name is Tim Woods and I do have his number is you
need it. But I called and he's trying to get money allocated to fix that crossing, he said he
should get a new budget first of September, but I cam gonna unless you tell me otherwise; call
him back. I got that way to go to church and even tho I jump railroad tracks I still think that
track needs to be fixed.
Britt: Farmers Day was great lots of compliments not too many complaints everyone was
talking about the new banners we have in town and they like those, the only complaint I got on
those was "you all do know there are two entrances in to Robbins". I said yea we are working
on that. Other than that I appreciate everyone's hard work.
Phillips: All town staff did great in every department Farmers Day ran excellently and
smoothly which is hard for a small town like this to really put together something like that with
the crowd that we had. I was up town had my little commissioner name tag on. I had at least
two different people stop me and compliment the work of the town. One of the couples was
from out of town, they enjoyed Farmer's Day so much they possibly find a house here and
move here.
Dockery: My only comment here is that it was an awesome experience I got no complaints and
a lot of compliments and one suggestion. The one suggestion was by a few people was why
can't we move this to October its just too hot. I hear that every year so I'm just sharing that with
you.
Kevin: Say that again
Dockery: Why can't we move this to October its too hot in August.
Stewart: I remember years ago when the original wagon master was asked that question, he had
been out in tobacco fields in September and seen hotter days than he saw in August, he said its
tradition and that's what he's gonna stick with. That come from the original wagon master.
Clint: I was told that would be the one thing that would get me fired.
X. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Call to Public Hearing to consider adopting three text amendments to the Robbins
Unified Development Ordinance on September 14, 2023 beginning at 6:00pm at
Robbins Fire Department. The proposed amendments include the following:
Official call to public hearings for three different 3 UDO related amendments.
(see attached memo and planning board letter read verbatim by CMack)
All three were recommended by planning board with full participation.
TC: Jessica sent me the draft ordinance several weeks ago, but I've been on vacation, so
I haven't had a chance to really check the language closely, I'll have that before the next
meeting. I don't anticipate any big changes in what you're proposing is fine, I'll be sure
the board and town staff have that in plenty of time.
XI. OLD BUSINESS
None
XII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Approve ARPA Spending Plan
Budget Amendments 1, 2, 3
The budget amendments, there are 3 actual and that coincides with the ledger entries
that are required. We have approximately $99,000 left in ARPA we have until Spring to
spend it. We have basically spent a little each year, we did premium pay, $200,00 for
capital purchases which the major one was the Dump Truck last year. This year we have
some capital expenses that we didn't put in the budget because we knew we had this and
other FEMA money coming. Some of it is couple thousand dollars. I met with the
library committee, and they are in need of bathroom repairs, baby changing table, some
brick work, a supplemental salary to pay not every month but every two weeks for the
cleaning lady and their software kiosk subscription is running out for the year. And
that's a foundation money thing, I have really not had to focus on the library, the
committee there has taken charge and they let us know what they need. The public
works line, like the chlorinator it has about a 10-year life cycle, it went out just a few
weeks ago. We were supplementing it by hand but it's basically a chlorinator that feeds
the chlorine into the plant. Its time extensive if you do it by hand. The roof we have a
leak in the corner, the roof of the lab which has to be temperature controlled because of
the samples, we burned out one window unit trying to maintain it with just a tarp. I was
waiting for this to see if we could get this approved. Our 2007 truck, the alternator went
out and the starter was stuttering and the (inaudible) dropped off while Logan was
driving it last week, so we are down to 2 public works trucks. The plan we had last year
for the municipal maintenance program is null and void anymore, there is such a high
demand for vehicles right now for high prices there not making money on leasing. So
we worked with and got a municipal contract for $37,000 not including tax, tag and
registration that we will do here and toolbox but that will bring us up to three workable
plus the dump truck; public work vehicles. Our guys need it, we couldn't find a truck
like a F-150for under$57K if we use the maintenance trucks for the maintenance and
use the ford ranger for meter checking, like work hauls, Roger said he could make that
work for the time being. Refer to manager report/public works employment)
Motion made by Commissioner Stewart, Seconded by Commissioner Britt.
Voting Yea: Mayor Pro Tem Bradshaw, Commissioner Phillips, Commissioner Britt,
Commissioner English
B. Interbasin and Subbasin Transfers
I have a minor in environmental engineering now. Basically this come about because
the County approved, they wrote a resolution there is very strict restrictions on, this is
how DEQ gives up your river basin, basically the major surface river buys the water in
North Carolina. For environmental considerations what they do is they break it up to
where there is limits on how much water you can pull from one surface source and
dispose of it in another surface source. This is problem for us right now b/c we get ours
from Montgomery County/Yadkin Pee Dee and dump into Cape Fear Basin essentially
Deep River. But we only use 100,000 gallons of wastewater a day. The current limit is 2
and 1/2 million. I didn't see the big importance of this to us however; had another
meeting with LKC with Wayne and Adam and just went through a lot of the technical
stuff. Basically, I was right it doesn't really affect us, however if you look there are only
two wastewater treatment plants in Moore County. Ours up here that dumps into Deep
River and Ador in Aberdeen which dumps in Lumber River. Moore County is in one of
the unfortunate spots that has within its county we are right there we have three
different river basins. It really complicates things. My question was how does this affect
us? Basically it affects us the 100,000 gallons/day that we use b/c basically we sell to
High Falls, our average usage is 120,000,000/day that's not a very high demand. If they
were to use our reservoir, if were to come to an agreement, with the reservoir and Deep
River they would essentially need it for the rest of the County. Well if it goes past the
traffic circle its gonna have be dumped somewhere which is gonna have to be the
Lumber River. That most likely would exceed the 2 1/2 million gallons. The only way
around this is with the inter basin transfers certificate and it takes years maybe even
decades if it even gets approved. It's very political and very specific and the engineers
don't think that it even would get approved; so, they have gone the other route of saying
let's just try to get a law changed. Everything in that actual law that went up to do a
bunch of other stuff passed both the House and Senate but the actual Inter basin clause
was taken out last minute in Senate. The Moore County BOC meeting last month, to
further define that meeting, we basically said what is the deal, b/c my main concern is
Robbins, well if we are gonna take water and use it all around here what's the big deal
you just have to pump it back to me and we can work both water and sewer. There's not
enough demand for them to do that. Again, if their gonna build, we're looking at a 1
million gallon plant it might be a $15 million; a County plant is gonna be 5 million
gallon/day plant or a 3 million gal/day plant that's about $27 million. They are not
gonna spend $27 million for that if it's only for a couple 100,000 gallons. My advice to
you is think about this as a county wide thing, we are basically supporting them to say
this water we eventually need the option of a County wide water source. (Reference to
slide show) That's the gist of it.
Discussion of optics, economics, industry, mobile trailer not permitted for long term
use.
County eagerly would like 11 municipalities supporting it in good faith.
TC: Non binding resolution, verbally is sufficient
XIII. MANAGER'S REPORT
A. August 2023 Manager's Report
Manager reads over Manager's Report for August 2023
XIV. CLOSED SESSION (if needed)
Not needed
XV. COMMISSIONER'S UPCOMING MEETING/EVENTS
Motion to Adjourn 6:54pm
Motion made by Commissioner Phillips.
Voting Yea: Mayor Pro Tem Bradshaw, Commissioner Britt, Commissioner Stewart,
Commissioner English
Agenda
TOWN OF ROBBINS
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, AUGUST 10, 2023 – 6:00 PM
Robbins Fire Department
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. INVOCATION – Mayor
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE – Mayor
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD NC G.S. 160A-81, 160A-81.1
V. CONFLICT OF INTEREST – Does any Commissioner have a conflict of interest concerning
agenda items the Board will address in this meeting?
VI. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
All items below are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. No separate
discussion will be held except on request of a member of the Board of Commissioners.
A. July Board of Commissioners Minutes
VII. RECOGNITIONS
RPD William Jackson Recognition
VIII. PRESENTATIONS
IX. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Call to Public Hearing to consider adopting three text amendments to the Robbins
Unified Development Ordinance on September 14, 2023 beginning at 6:00pm at
Robbins Fire Department. The proposed amendments include the following:
X. OLD BUSINESS
XI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Approve ARPA Spending Plan
Budget Amendments 1, 2, 3
B. Interbasin and Subbasin Transfers
XII. MANAGER'S REPORT
A. August 2023 Manager's Report
XIII. COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
XIV. CLOSED SESSION (if needed)
XV. COMMISSIONER'S UPCOMING MEETING/EVENTS
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