Parks and Recreation Advisory Board (Formerly Parks, Rec and Senior Services)
Regular MeetingRoyal Oak, MI · September 6, 2018
Minutes
City of Royal Oak
Recreation Department
1600 North Campbell Road
Royal Oak, MI 48067
248-246-.3180
Minutes
Parks, Recreation and Senior Services Advisory Board
Thursday September 6, 2018 at 7:00p.m.
Mahany/Meininger Senior/Community Center
3500 Marias Avenue
Royal Oak, MI 48067
Meeting called to Order 7:01pm.
Members Present: Tim Ciechorski, Maya Harris, Paul Kanan, Mike
Ripinski, Mark Ryan, Jeffrey Plachta, Commissioner Macey
Also Present: John Fedele, Superintendent of Recreation
Members Absent: Kaila Huehner, Camille Thompson, Jill Robinson, Greg
Rassel, Director of Rec. & Public Service,
I. Approval of Minutes: June 7, 2018 – Motion by Mark Ryan, second by
Tim Ciechorski, unanimously approved
II. City Commission Comments: Commissioner Macey discussed the
commissioners talk a lot about the budget at Commission meeting.
Commissioner Macey advocates for a mulch replacement program states
parks only get mulch if enough community members get together to help
spread the mulch. There is no proactive branch/tree trimming program but
DPS is very good at being reactive to calls when there are down limbs.
The commissioners are wondering why they are not hearing this from the
Parks and Recreation. Commissioner Macey states maybe having indoor
exercise equipment, fix ADA compliant swings in parks and reiterates that
the City Commissioners are waiting to hear from the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Board.
III. Public Comment:
- Kenneth Collins: Makes a complaint that the Pickle Ball Courts and
players are too loud at Upton Park. Kenneth was wondering why Pickle
Ball was not on the agenda for this meeting after requesting it to be on
the agenda.
Board makes a motion, passed unanimously to add Pickle Ball
Noise Complaint to item “H” on the agenda.
- Janice Wagner: Makes a statement with an issue regarding senior’s
communication problem. Janice states that seniors do not know about
the programs we have to offer and suggests a flyer that is attached to
the residents’ water bills.
Ripinski suggest a review to approve the cost to put a flyer in
water bills.
Fedele states that there is a quarterly insight that reaches 34,000
address with activities ranging from youth activities, to adult
activities to senior activities and even school board functions.
There is also a senior newsletter that the senior centers’ staff
publishes.
Ryan states that even though there is the insight and the senior
newsletter that reaches a good number of residents if they
choose not to read them, we cannot force them to read the
programs we have to offer.
Cierchorski asks who designs the Insight and if the cover can
showcase senior activities.
Fedele states that the Recreation Dept. designs the insights and
the cover for each season has different covers that correlate to
the major function/activity going on in that quarter but will
investigate adding a different cover to incorporate the seniors.
- Janice Wagner also states she doesn’t know why there is a pre school
center in the Senior Center and recommends that room would be great
for having indoor fitness equipment since there are no areas for indoor
fitness equipment throughout the city.
Ripinski suggests trying to come up with ways for better
communications and make sure we have “senior communication”
topic on next meeting’s agenda.
- Friends of Mark Twain Dog Park: The park has seen an uptick in
membership. There are two sets of rules that conflict w/ each other.
They put together a new set of rules and conduct (new rules and
conduct was given to Advisory Board). Would like to have a new sign
with all the rules stated on it closer to the parking lot. They are still
having issues with people coming up asking to get in because they lost
their key fob. Suggest the board “approve” the new rules handed out at
meeting.
Fedele recommends not voting on the new rules now and give
time for the board and other members to read over the rules
carefully and come back next meeting with a review/suggestion.
Ripinski agrees and recommends having this on next meeting’s
agenda.
End Public Comment
IV. Business:
a. Mark Twain Dog Park Update: Fedele states that after talking over with
previous dog waste company we have learned that they have
disbanded and are no longer in the business. The City has contracted a
new dog waste company in Doggy Scoops which will pick up waster
two times a week during the summer months and once a week in the
winter months. The new company has also supplied new waste barrels
to the park. It is the cities understanding that the new contractors
building the adjacent apartments will also be installing a fence covering
the perimeter of the park.
Ripinski states that he has gone to the park recently and
talked with a couple users, both new resident and
recurring, and they both really enjoy the park and its
recent improvements
Commissioner Macey states that the Friends of Mark
Twain Dog Park is doing a lot of great work, trails are
mulched and are looking good. Commissioner Macey
recommends having a new sign with rules made and
having a review of the new code of conduct/rules.
b. Royal Oak Golf Course Cart Path/Parking lot paving update: Fedele
states that the request for repaving of the parking lot and cart path was
given to the Engineering Department to write up the specs for the RFB.
The Recreation Department is still waiting for the specs from
Engineering and once the specs are received will move forward with
the bid process.
Ripinski states that he is quite frustrated and upset with
the news and was told the specs were already drawn up
and ready to go. Ripinski states that he is not happy that
this is being drawn out more and more and wants
progress to start moving forward on this and this should
have already been approved.
Fedele states that the recent update regarding the specs
was from the week of August 27th. States that the
department is just waiting and will move forward with the
RFB as soon as the specs come in.
Ryan states that even though it is frustrating, there is not
much to do but wait for the specs to come in.
c. Normandy Oaks Park Update: Fedele states that the progress for
Normandy Oaks Park is moving a long with the bid process to begin in
December with construction starting sometime in the Spring. The City
will be receiving the Splash Pad components to DPS around the last
week of September. Fedele states that excess dirty from the Robertson
Brothers has been moved over into the area and the early stages of the
sledding hill are on site.
Ripinski ask if there will be a fence that would be around
the mound of dirt for the sledding hill to prevent residents
from using it during the winter and asks if we can get an
update on this.
Commissioner Macey states that the housing on the
corner of Normandy are almost done and ready for
moving in.
d. Outdoor Fitness Equipment Update: Fedele states that the City
received a substantial funding from CDBG. The department decided to
upgrade the current equipment and add outdoor fitness equipment to
four neighbor parks, Grant Park, Waterworks Park, Cody Park, Barton-
North Park. The decision was made to coincide with the “Re-think
Royal Oak” and provide outdoor fitness equipment that was accessible
to all areas of Royal Oak Residents. The fitness equipment is state of
the art equipment where you can scan the fitness boards and receive a
workout or learn different ways to use the equipment presented at each
park. Each park has different components to the fitness equipment but
there are still some similar aspects in each. Fedele states that one of
the goals is to create an outdoor cross fit class for residents who wish
to receive instructed workouts as well. Fedele also states that along
with the addition to the outdoor fitness equipment, the existing play
structures will be provided with new artificial turf fall zones which will
replace the existing fibar fall zones.
Ripinski explains how neighborhood block grants work
and that each park is designated as a neighborhood park
and certain grant funds can be used towards those parks.
We may want to have equipment like this in all our parks
but some parks in the City are not neighborhood parks
like Starr Jaycee.
e. Worden Park Lights Update: Fedele states that the city has received a
sum of money from its lease agreement of the cell phone tower on the
Worden Park baseball/softball fields. The current light poles are made
of wood and have shifted over the years thus creating insufficient
lighting for the fields. Fedele states that the department has been
working with Musco Lighting and Techline Sports Lighting, two of the
leading sports lighting companies in the nation, to come up with a plan
to replace the existing wooden light pulls and replace them with metal
poles and replace the wooden brackets with metal ones as well. The
department is deciding on whether we want to go with LED lighting or
HID lighting for this project and are awaiting cost comparison specs as
well as energy efficient comparison specs from both companies and
will decide after receiving the requested material.
Ripinski asks when the project is expected to be worked
on and completed
Fedele states hopefully late October right after the fall
adult season but can be moved up and re-arrange
scheduling for the fall adult season if need be.
f. Ice Arena Cooling Condenser RFB Update: Fedele states that the
mandatory walk through for the RFB has been conducted and of the 5
companies that attended the walk through, only two, Serv-Ice and LJ
Rolls, submitted bid proposals with Serv-Ice submitting two alternative
bids. Fedele states that the condensing tower is still operating but not
operating at the efficiency it is supposed to be operating at and the life
span is roughly 25 years for the tower.
Ripinski asks how old the current tower is?
Fedele states that it is anywhere between 30-40 years old
Fedele states that the department is waiting for efficiency
specs from the proposed bid and another alternative bid
between two condensing towers. Once the efficiency
specs are submitted the department will decide on which
tower to purchase.
Ripinski asks if this was budgeted for?
Fedele states that it was budgeted as a capital outlay
project for Fiscal Year 2018-2019.
g. Ice Arena General Manager Change: Fedele states that the previous
Suburban Sports Group has informed the department that General
Manager Cal McGowan will be replaced by Amaan Archer. Fedele
states that Amaan Archer has worked at the ice arena before and is
well qualified for the job.
h. Added agenda item, Pickball discussion: Commissioner Macey states
that pickleball is played on tennis courts with a ping pong type ball. It
has become very popular and the Upton Park tennis courts were
converted to pickleball courts by the pickleball group when the tennis
courts were not being fully utilized. Commissioner Macey states that
they run tournaments every Thursday or Friday and put on one large
tournament in August. Commissioner Macey states that there are some
options to help with the noise, but these options don’t eliminate the
noise they just reduce the noise. Some of the options are using a softer
ball, softer paddles or putting up wind screen type noise reducers but
are very costly. There was a tournament on August 26th at Whittier
during the Inman ceremony and the tournament used the softer balls
and the noise was minimal.
Ripinski recommends having the pickleball members
come to next meeting and give their side of the story.
Pickleball is growing all over the nation.
Fedele states that the pickleball community helps with
fencing repairs to Whittier Park Pickleball Courts they
have also added a new gate to Upton’s Pickleball Courts.
They currently use the dampen ball but having them use
a softer paddle will take away the competitive nature of
the sport.
Commissioner Macey suggest finding out about the
parking at the park and if there are any solutions?
Ryan states that parking at this park is what it is. Could it
be nicer to have less parking and be more convenient?
Yes, but there are other parks that have double sided
parking in the neighborhood.
Ripinski suggest talking about permit parking and how
you need to have a permit to park on the streets.
V. Items not on the Agenda:
VI. Upcoming Events
a. Barktoberfest September 14th and 15th
b. Downtown Park Community Engagement Oct. 6 & Nov. 3
c. Halloween Spooktacular Kickball Tournament Oct. 20, 2018
Next Meeting: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 7:00p.m.
Motion by Mark Ryan, seconded by Paul Kanan to adjourn at 8:31 p.m. Motion
passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
John Fedele Paul Kanan
John Fedele, Superintendent of Recreation Paul Kanan, Secretary
Agenda
City of Royal Oak
Recreation Department
1600 North Campbell Road
Royal Oak, MI 48067
248-246-.3180
AGENDA
Parks, Recreation and Senior Services Advisory Board
Thursday September 6, 2018 – 7:00 p.m.
Leo Mahany / Harold Meininger Senior Community Center
Game Room
3500 Marais
Royal Oak, MI 48067
Meeting called to Order
I. Approval of Minutes – June 7, 2018
II. City Commission Comments
III. Public Comment
IV. Business
a. Mark Twain Dog Park Update
b. Royal Oak Golf Course Cart Path/Parking lot paving update
c. Normandy Oaks Park Update
d. Outdoor Fitness Equipment Update
e. Worden Park Lights Update
f. Ice Arena Cooling Condenser RFB update
g. Ice Arena General Manager Change
V. Items not on the Agenda
VI. Upcoming Events
a. Barktoberfest September 15th
b. Downtown Park Community Engagement Oct 6 & Nov 3
c. Halloween Spooktacular Kickball Tournament Oct 20, 2018
Next Meeting: Thursday, October 4, 2018
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