Retiree Health Care Investment Board
Regular MeetingRoyal Oak, MI · May 21, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF ROYAL OAK RETIREE HEALTH CARE INVESTMENT BOARD
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
A meeting of the Retiree Health Care Investment Board of Trustees was conducted remotely via Zoom,
on Friday May 21, 2021, at approximately 8:30 a.m.
The meeting was called to order at 8:33 a.m.
Attendance / Roll Call:
PRESENT: Lee Collick, attending from Royal Oak, Michigan - Chairperson
Bret Nelson, attending from Royal Oak, Michigan - Vice Chairperson
Kyle DuBuc, attending from Royal Oak, Michigan – Trustee
Paul Brake, attending from Royal Oak, Michigan – Trustee
Monica Hunt, attending from Detroit, Michigan - Trustee
ALSO PRESENT: Julie Rudd - Bd Chief Administrative Officer/ Bd Secretary/Bd Treasurer
Lisa Genord - Financial Analyst / Pension Technician
Tom Michaud – Bd attorney with VanOverbeke Michaud and Timmony
Brian Green – AndCo Investment Advisor
Public Comment
Members of the public were able to participate in the meeting by joining on Zoom Webinar using Meeting
ID 86104144791 & password 143695. Participation could be either online or by calling in:
Online: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83745739614?pwd=d3lvYk1vL2dlcmdXYkFXRG11OXFNQT09
iPhone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592
Phone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592 or 1 312 626 6799 or 1 669 900 6833 or 1 253 215 8782 or
1 346 248 7799. There were no public attendees / comments.
Board approval of the agenda for the May 21, 2021, meeting
Moved by Lee Collick to approve the agenda for the May 21, 2021 meeting
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Board approval of the draft minutes for the April 16, 2021 meeting
Moved by Lee Collick to approve the draft minutes for the April 16, 2021 meeting
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
INVESTMENTS
Investment performance review as of April 30, 2021, presented by Brian Green of AndCo.
Market value/allocation of assets as of April 30, 2021 is $154,146,043.
Current month – total portfolio outperformed the benchmark: 3.51% vs. 3.21% index.
3-month performance – total portfolio outperformed the benchmark: 8.02% vs. 6.68% index.
Year-to date performance – total portfolio outperformed the benchmark: 7.55% vs. 6.39% index.
1-year performance – total portfolio outperformed the benchmark: 32.35% vs. 30.60% index.
3-year performance – total portfolio underperformed the benchmark: 10.73% vs. 11.82% index.
Inception – total portfolio underperformed the benchmark: 9.24% vs. 10.42% index.
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Brian recommended that the board members read the AndCo Newsletter – Introduction to Crypto Assets
dated April 2021 (listed on this agenda), as an important educational tool from a market standpoint.
Brian then reported that April was a continuation of the good news / performance results realized in first
quarter of 2021, with the increase in COVID-19 vaccinations and the reopening of the economy. Brian
reported the U.S. equities continue to dominate the market with the shift from large cap to small cap and
from growth-oriented to value-oriented stocks. Brian stated that the recovery in value-oriented and small
cap stocks have been a tremendous boost to the city’s portfolio and have helped close the gap of long-
term inception performance relative to the policy index. Brian also reported that there continues to be
inflation concerns as interest rates slowly rise and investors question if / when the FED will intervene.
Lee Collick asked Brian if he had any recommended changes for the city’s portfolio and Brian stated
that he proposed a change to the real estate allocation of the portfolio at the March 2021 meeting that
he would still like the board to consider, as well as discussing adding private debt to the city’s portfolio
to help cover the health care monthly and quarterly payouts. Lee Collick asked about the costs
associated with adding private debt, and Brian stated that there is a management fee, and that private
debt is a more costly investment because it is illiquid.
Brian then presented his review of AndCo’s performance, as requested by the Board at the last meeting,
in comparison to the investment policy guidelines and indices. Brian briefly reviewed the investment
policy statement and the overall performance objectives, and then discussed AndCo’s performance as
of March 31, 2021, relative to the statement and performance objectives. Brian stated that the portfolio’s
overall return for the past 4 years (as of 4/1/2017) is +8.43% net of fees, which trails the policy index
return of 9.78% (1.35% in underperformance). Brian reported that one of the biggest drivers of portfolio’s
underperformance is the overweight to small cap stocks (20%) vs. the market weighting of 8% and,
given the significant difference in performance between large cap and small cap stocks over the last 4
years, that allocation decision has driven 0.50% of the 1.35% in underperformance. Brian also reported
that starting in the 4th quarter of 2020, the overweight to small cap (coupled with outperformance from
Ancora & Clarkston) has become the largest driver of performance recovery in the overall portfolio.
Brian reported that outperformance in April & May 2021 has closed the gap between the Total Fund and
Policy Index by another 0.34%, and this continued improvement in performance has closed the gap by
+1.19% in the last 8 months, putting the difference between the Total Fund and Policy Index at -1.01%.
Brian stated he is confident, if the Board continues to allow AndCo to manage the city’s retiree health
care investment portfolio, that the Board will come to see this gap closed in the future.
Bret Nelson asked about not meeting the systems assumed rate of return. Brian stated that it is likely
that the city’s portfolio will have more muted returns. Julie Rudd confirmed with Brian that his opinion
for the long-term rate of return is still expected to be 7% or 7.25%. Brian agreed that long-term rate of
return assumption should remain at 7-7.25% and by exploring other asset classes, the city should meet
the 7.25% hurdle rate.
The complete AndCo Investment Performance Review report dated April 30, 2021 is on file in Finance
office.
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
AndCo Investment Performance Review for period ending March 31, 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
AndCo Investment Policy Statement – Overall Performance Objectives
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
AndCo ADV Part 2A Disclosure Brochure dated March 29, 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
AndCo Privacy Notice 2021
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Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
AndCo Newsletter – Introduction to Crypto Assets dated April 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II LP Detailed Management Fee Report for Quarter Ending March 31, 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II LP Investor Statement Period Ending First Quarter 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II Performance Report - First Quarter 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Summary of Material Changes to Form ADV
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) GIPS Verification Announcement Letter dated April 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Directions Newsletter 1Q 2021 as of March 31, 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Quarterly Report dated March 31, 2021
Moved by Lee Collick to receive and file.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Brian Green left the meeting at 9:17am at the request of Lee Collick
LEGAL
None
OTHER
Annual advisor and consultant review – In accordance with Board policy, each year one existing
advisors/consultants is reviewed along with prospective advisors/consultants. The investment advisor
is due for review. Lee Collick proposed to have the retiree health care board investment advisor prepare
a presentation outlining the portfolio’s performance in comparison to the investment policy guidelines
and indices and present it to the board at the next meeting. Brian Green, retiree health care investment
advisor with AndCo, presented his review of AndCo’s performance in comparison to the investment
policy guidelines and indices, prior to his monthly market value / asset allocation review. At the
conclusion of Brian’s presentation, Bret Nelson stated that he thought that 5 years was needed to
properly evaluate and investment advisor’s performance, and because the city has only been utilizing
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AndCo for 4 years, that the Board should allow AndCo the additional year to demonstrate their overall
performance. Julie Rudd stated that the decision to add Seizert to the portfolio was to provide downside
protection and we have not seen a significant decline in the stock market (as both financial advisors
advised years ago) to witness the benefit of Seizert, which will need to be evaluated when it occurs.
Both Paul Brake and Kyle DuBuc each opined that they want AndCo / Brian Green to continue as
advisor.
Moved by Lee Collick to retain Brian Green with AndCo as the retiree health care investment advisor for
another year and reevaluate AndCo’s performance relative to the investment policy guidelines and
indices at that time in May 2022.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
Retiree Health Care Investment Board Trustee Election 2021 – update. City Clerk determined that an
election was not necessary for the police / fire representative as Bret Nelson was the only person running
- his new term will expire 5/31/2025. At the June meeting, the retiree health care investment board will
acknowledge Bret’s new term as the police / fire representative.
NEXT MEETING AND ADJOURNMENT
Next regular meeting is scheduled immediately following the retirement system board meeting at
approximately 8:30 a.m. on Friday, June 11, 2021, via remote Zoom webinar.
Moved by Lee Collick to adjourn the meeting (9:29 a.m.) and confirm the next meeting for June 11,
2021, immediately following retirement system board meeting at approximately 8:30 a.m.
Supported by Bret Nelson
MOTION ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY 5/0
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Agenda
Finance Department
203 South Troy Street
Royal Oak, MI 4806
www.romi.gov
NOTICE OF RETIREE HEALTH CARE INVESTMENT BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING
The Royal Oak Retiree Health Care Investment Board of Trustees will hold a meeting at
Approximately 8:30a.m*. on Friday, May 21, 2021
*immediately following the retirement system board of trustees meeting
COVID-19 is a new strain of coronavirus that had not been previously identified in humans,
can spread easily from person to person, and can result in serious illness or death. To
mitigate the spread of COVID-19, to protect the public health, and provide essential
protections to vulnerable Michiganders, it is crucial that all Michiganders take steps to limit in-
person contact. The critical mitigation measures include social distancing and limiting the
number of people interacting at public gatherings. Conducting the May 21, 2021 Royal Oak
Retiree Health Care Investment Board of Trustees meeting in person would risk the personal
health or safety of members of the public and/or the retiree health care investment board of
trustees. Therefore, the meeting will be held electronically, in compliance with PA 228 and
PA 254 of 2020 and procedures established by the Royal Oak City Commission.
Meeting ID 861 0414 4791 and password 143695
Online https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86104144791?pwd=YWVQcnc3N1NVb2lCNmtwYjIrS2VYQT09
iPhone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592
Phone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592 or 1 312 626 6799 or 1 669 900 6833 or 1 253 215
8782 or 1 346 248 7799
Members of the public can also contact members of the retiree health care investment board
to provide input or ask questions on any business that will come before the retiree health care
investment board of trustees at the meeting via e-mail as follows:
ccdubuc@romi.gov
cchunt@romi.gov
leec@romi.gov
bretn@romi.gov
Anyone wishing to participate in the meeting who needs special assistance under the
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is asked to contact Carol Schwanger, city manager’s
executive assistant at 248-246-3203 by 12:00p.m. on Wednesday, May 19, 2021, so that
appropriate arrangements can be made.
Finance Department
203 South Troy Street
Royal Oak, MI 4806
www.romi.gov
Agenda
Royal Oak City Retiree Health Care Investment Board of Trustees Meeting
City Hall, 203 South Troy Street
Royal Oak, MI 48067
Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:30a.m.*
*Approximated time – immediately following the retirement system board meeting
Zoom Webinar
Meeting ID 861 0414 4791 and password 143695
Online https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86104144791?pwd=YWVQcnc3N1NVb2lCNmtwYjIrS2VYQT09
iPhone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592
Phone: 1 929 205 6099 or 1 301 715 8592 or 1 312 626 6799 or 1 669 900 6833 or 1 253 215
8782 or 1 346 248 7799
1. Call to Order | Roll Call
2. Approval of Agenda May 21, 2021
3. Public Comment
4. Approval of Minutes April 16, 2020
5. Investments
Market value and performance update presented by Brian Green with AndCo
Investments (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
AndCo Investment Performance Review for period ending March 31, 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
AndCo Investment Policy Statement – Overall Performance Objectives (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
AndCo ADV Part 2A Disclosure Brochure dated March 29, 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
AndCo Privacy Notice 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
AndCo Newsletter – Introduction to Crypto Assets dated April 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II LP Detailed Management Fee Report for Quarter Ending
March 31, 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II LP Investor Statement Period Ending First Quarter 2021
(enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
PGIM Real Estate Prisa II Performance Report - First Quarter 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Summary of Material Changes to Form ADV (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) GIPS Verification Announcement Letter dated April 2021
(enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Directions Newsletter 1Q 2021 as of March 31, 2021
(enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
Seizert Capital Partners (SCP) Quarterly Report dated March 31, 2021 (enclosed)
Request that the Board receive and file.
6. Legal - None
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7. Other Business
Annual advisor and consultant review – In accordance with Board policy, each year
one existing advisors/consultants is reviewed along with prospective
advisors/consultants. The investment advisor is due for review. Lee Collick
proposed to have the retiree health care board investment advisor prepare a
presentation outlining the portfolio’s performance in comparison to the investment
policy guidelines and indexes and present it to the board at the next meeting.
Retiree Health Care Investment Board Trustee Election 2021 – update. City Clerk
determined that an election was not necessary for the police / fire representative as
Bret Nelson was the only person running - his new term will expire 5/31/2025.
8. Adjournment and Next Meeting - Request the board schedule the next meeting the third
Friday of the month – June 18, 2021 at 8:30a.m. (Zoom Webinar)
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