Board of Health
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · September 28, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF SALEM
BOARD OF HEALTH
MEETING MINUTES
Virtual Meeting held via Zoom
and
Recorded by SATV
September 28, 2021
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dr. Jeremy Schiller, Paul Kirby, Geraldine Yuhas, Sara Moore, Datanis Elias
OTHERS PRESENT: David Greenbaum, Health Agent, Suzanne Darmody, Public Health Nurse, Maureen Davis,
Clerk of the Board, Patricia Morsillo, City Council Liaison, Steven Dion, Co-Owner of CrossFit IronSpider and B&S
Fitness
ATTENDEES ADDRESSED: (Please see minutes)
TOPIC DISCUSSION/ACTION
J. Schiller read aloud that, pursuant to Governor Baker’s orders, there
exists COVID-19 Emergency Open Meeting Law Guidance regarding the
implementation of virtual public meetings, etc.
1. Call to Order
7:13pm (after some initial technical difficulties)
2. Approval of Minutes P. Kirby moved to approve the minutes. S. Moore 2 nd.
(August 10, 2021)
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
3. Steven Dion, Co-Owner of CrossFit J. Schiller welcomed Steve Dion and apologized on behalf of the Board for
Iron Spider & B&S Fitness the technological problems we had last time and for the delay tonight.
Programs, request for a waiver of S. Dion thanked the Board for rescheduling and thanked both J. Schiller
the Board of Health mask mandate and D. Greenbaum for their communications back and forth. He
issued on August 23, 2021 introduced himself as one of the co-owners of B&S Fitness Programs and
CrossFit Iron Spider located at 45 Congress Street and he and his wife
Brandi live at 10 Hemenway Road in Salem. He said he knows the Board’s
task is challenging and the entire community really appreciates the Board’s
time and volunteerism. He understands their role in helping keep the City
of Salem safe. He feels they have gone above and beyond to the best of
their ability to keep their community as safe as possible and they continue
to do so.
He shared a brief PowerPoint presentation titled, “Thank You, The Ask &
The Rationale”. Some of the points he made were:
- 95-99% of their current active members are vaccinated
- They are not aware of any new and/or breakthrough infections
- No open gym time; members register for a time to workout
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- Plenty of open space to workout; 200-300 square feet of space per person
- The facility is 11,000 square feet with a 20-foot ceiling at its peak
- Four large garage bay doors open to provide constant access to fresh air
- Two large exhaust fans provide a strong exchange rate/good ventilation
- Equipment is not shared
He said the city permits close quarters without masks while eating and
drinking at restaurants and bars. He wants to at least be treated the same.
He said athletes come into the space with a mask, but they are asking if
they can be permitted to remove their masks during their workouts when
they are in their own designated spots. Coaches will remain masked, and
everyone will wear masks at all other times. The ask is to allow them the
mask waiver since it is a safe environment and there is plenty of room. Not
all gyms have the accommodations they do. He thanked the Board for their
time and consideration.
J. Schiller said it was an excellent presentation. He commended S. Dion
for the layout and air exchange and the way it is being run. It is all good
and seems like minimized risk.
Attendee Maria Vasilakis, 45 Barr Street, said she feels safer at gyms than
at restaurants. At certain gyms, like CrossFit or yoga, there are very
designated spaces with plenty of room between other members. Masks are
only taken off in that designated space. When out of the designated space
masks are worn. It is very safe. The space allotted there is a lot more
distance than in any restaurant she has been to in Salem. She hopes the
Board will take that into consideration.
J. Schiller said a lot of really good points were brought up about restaurants
and the inconsistencies. He corrected one point and said the mask mandate
does expire. It expires based on a date that we have already agreed upon.
The only way it would not expire would be for the Board to take action to
extend it. The Board already voted that this is a time-limited mandate. He
said while there are a lot of inconsistencies that may not seem to make the
most sense, these regulations are part of an overall strategy for public
health that is keeping as many people safe as best as possible. There are
going to be some businesses that may not have a huge impact, but his
personal opinion is that it is for a short amount of time and then it ends. He
empathizes with the impact it has on people.
P. Kirby said it was a very compelling presentation. His biggest concern is
about a lack of coherence as a way of setting policy. He wondered if there
was any precedent for making exceptions or exemptions, but feels like it
would open the flood gates. He asked S. Dion how burdensome people felt
about masks when he was initially allowed to reopen.
S. Dion said everybody wore the mask then and there was a much higher
commitment to that because everybody was not vaccinated. For the next
six weeks, if we are not permitted the mask waiver, we will continue to
wear the mask, but we are asking if we can get some leniency, such as 30
seconds or a minute to take the mask down to catch our breath without
being in violation.
S. Moore said the Board’s intention is not to micromanage about people
being able to take their masks off for a moment. People take their masks
down to take a drink, etc. That is acceptable. However, if it is a culture to
feel the policy does not need to be followed for whatever reason, that is
another thing. We heard from some members of the public who were
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concerned that it was a larger issue. If you were able to do exercise outside
in the past, perhaps it is possible to do that now.
S. Dion said it is not possible. He said the inspectors have visited twice for
complaints and when they came in everybody was wearing their mask.
They did have a group that they had to speak to a couple of times about
wearing their masks, but they have since complied.
G. Yuhas said he is doing a great job at the gym, but if we change the rule
for you, next week we will be having a special meeting because another
gym or restaurant wants that rule changed for them because we already
changed it for somebody else. She thinks it will snowball. We made this
rule for a short period of time. We are opening a can of worms if we say it
is okay for you.
S. Moore said for her the challenge is the tradeoff. The presentation was
very well made, and she understands the arguments, but to G. Yuhas’s
point, this could have a snowball effect. In her opinion the tradeoff is not
worth the six weeks for one space.
P. Kirby asked why working out outside is not possible.
S. Dion said they had rented an outside space at their location in Shetland
Park. Since then, the management of the facility has said they can no
longer have outdoor classes because it is a liability for them.
J. Schiller said we have to make so many difficult decisions over the last
year and a half with these kinds of individual situations. He told S. Dion
there is nothing about what you said doesn’t make any sense. You are
obviously a smart, accomplished person and nobody here would be
doubting the wisdom of your logic that it is a low-risk situation and
therefore the ask for the waiver. We have to balance that as a Board,
weighing that with all the other challenges that invariably come our way.
We have to weigh public health vs. individual requests. He repeated that
this is time limited. We are just asking for everyone to cooperate so we can
get through this.
D. Elias said she agrees with what all the Board members have said. She
feels the waiver does not seem logical to her with six weeks left to go.
Attendee Kaitlyn Krauskopf said she wants to vehemently oppose any
waiver for CrossFit Iron Spider. She has been a member there on and off
four over four years. She now trains at Bean Town Barbell weightlifting
club under separate ownership inside IronSpider’s facility. On September
18th she reported IronSpider to the Board of Health because she walked in
to Bean Town that morning and not one member of IronSpider was
wearing a face covering while doing a high-intensity workout. She
confronted co-owner Brandi Dion who was at the front desk also unmasked
and her only response was that they were safer than a restaurant, which she
strongly disagrees with.
Throughout the pandemic IronSpider has been repeatedly trying to
circumvent public health measures by making their own rules and avoiding
accountability.
Back in May when the state mask mandate was still in effect she noticed
that members were not masking. Within a week there were three positive
cases, including Dr. Dion and another coach. When she reached out to Dr.
Dion and Brandi about her concerns she was told that technically they were
not required to mask because Crossfit was considered a low-contact sport.
She contacted the Board herself about that and confirmed that it was false.
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In August right before the mask mandate took effect they announced in a
private Facebook post to their members that they would not have to wear
masks. When she asked them if they got approval from the Board for their
new policy they told her that the rules don’t apply to them. She
immediately contacted the Board again who told them this time that they
directly needed to mask up.
On the first day of the mandate not one person in Dr. Dion’s morning class
wore a mask. One of her Bean Town teammates was forced to confront
him about it and his excuse was that the fine for a violation was
inconsequential and that he would lose business if he enforced the mandate.
She finds that odd because Dr. Dion is a co-owner of a CrossFit IronSpider
in Marblehead less than five miles down the road, so in her mind it would
be very easy to simply direct those members who are anti-mask to the
IronSpider in Marblehead.
She connected with several former members, most of them moms like
herself, who discontinued their memberships during the pandemic because
they felt so unsafe. She said she is sharing all of this to illustrate the
lengths to which Iron Spider has repeatedly gone to make excuses and to
circumvent the rules that have been implemented by this very Board to
protect the health and safety of our community.
She feels if she had not reported IronSpider on September 18th S. Dion
would not be here tonight trying to find yet another work-around to the
mandate.
She asked the Board not to grant any sort of exemption or waiver to
IronSpider for masking indoors. The irony of a business that supposedly
promotes health and fitness going against the public health directives of the
Board during a pandemic is not lost on her. In her opinion doing
something as simple as wearing a face covering during an hour-long
workout should not be this difficult.
S. Dion responded that regarding the mask mandate, there was a long
dialog among MA CrossFit facilities that they fell within the sporting
regulations. Once it was brought to their attention that was not the policy
and that they were treated more like a traditional gym then the masks were
worn from that point on. The class that K. Krauskopf referred to was the
morning group he also referred to where they struggled to have them wear
their masks. Since then they have understood the severity of that decision
to do so. He said Brandi was consuming a beverage when she was
observed unmasked. K. Krauskopf and her group have valid concerns but
at some point everyone takes their mask down for a period of time for
various reasons. He said we know where this is going but want to thank
the Board for your consideration and we appreciate your time.
P. Kirby moved that the Board reject the request of CrossFit Iron
Spider & B&S Fitness for an exemption to the indoor mask policy.
G. Yuhas 2nd.
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
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J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
4. Chairperson Communications
J. Schiller said he had nothing new to add because we have been meeting
5. Monthly Reports-Updates
so often.
a. Public Health
Nurse’s Report Report not available.
b. Health Agent’s Report D. Greenbaum gave said the indoor testing mandate goes into effect on
Friday, October 1st. We have worked diligently over the last week to ten
days to have Curative set up a testing site. It will be located at the Peabody
Essex Museum Connect Building at 135 Essex Street. At this point it will
operate Wednesdays through Saturdays Noon to 8:00pm through the month
of October. There will be a shift out of that building into another building
on October 30th and 31st because that building houses public safety as a
check-in point where they can get warm and have something to eat, etc.
The testing will all remain downtown. Additionally we have been able to
secure an extra day at the St. Peter’s Church location so they will be there
on Saturdays as well from 9:00am to 2:00pm for anybody who wants to
visit Stop the Spread through the month of October.
He said he has not heard any negativity about the testing requirement. He
has received a lot of inquiries with people wanting clarification about what
they have to do as far as testing goes. There seems to be a lot of
misunderstanding of what the policy is. People are thinking they have to
test to come to the city, so we are trying to clear that up for people.
G. Yuhas asked if rapid tests are only for people who are going to big
events or can anybody get a rapid test.
D. Greenbaum said if people are downtown and they want to get a rapid
test anyone can go but it is there to assist folks going to those large events
that could not get a test at another time to get it while they are in town.
P. Kirby asked if we know the through-put capacity of the testing site.
D. Greenbaum said when they initially sent us a proposal it was around
120-150 people an hour. They have assured us they can meet that demand.
He also thinks the 72-hour timeframe for producing a negative test will
reduce some of the demand for the walk-up testing. The one thing they
requested is that people pre-register through the registration link that he
hopes should go out publicly tomorrow. If they register in advance it is just
a matter of them arriving and being checked in. What takes time is actually
having to input somebody into the system as a registration. It is the same at
Stop the Spread testing; if people pre-register the lines move quickly.
c. Administrative Report
Copy available at BOH office.
d. Council Liaison Updates
P. Morsillo said the city is starting work on a housing goals and production
plan to understand future housing needs. Mostly affordability in housing.
There will be two public meetings. One meeting will be focused on seniors
to understand exactly what types of housing options seniors are looking for.
There is a working group of which she is a member of and there will be a
survey going out in a few weeks. People from the public have signed up to
answer some detailed questions about their housing experience.
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D. Greenbaum updated the Board that Kerry Murphy has been working
with the City Solicitor’s office on an urban agricultural ordinance. It will
be a zoning change. There will be a corresponding Board of Health
regulation that will go along with it. We are hoping to potentially have it in
front of the Board at either the October or the November meeting.
S. Moore moved to approve the reports. D. Elias 2 nd.
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
6. New Business/Scheduling of Future
Agenda Items J. Schiller said he thinks what the Board decided about the testing for large-
scale indoor events was a courageous move and he thinks we made the
right decision. In retrospect he thinks we have made the right decision
about a lot of things. We have had a lot of hurdles. He has such an
appreciation for everyone on the Board, for P. Morsillo and for the
Department. We have all been guided by what is best and trying to make
the best decisions in very difficult situations. He applauds everyone who
has been involved with it. Out of all the bad things we have seen it has
been a good thing to see that we all have come together with this.
D. Greenbaum agreed and said he got a call from a gentleman whose son is
getting married at the Waterfront Hotel next month. He initially thought
that he was going to get a lot of pushback on the testing requirement but
instead he was very gracious and thought it was great that the Board did it
and they were encouraging their guests to get tested. Hearing that kind of
story just reaffirms that the Board did the right thing.
J. Schiller added that he got a handwritten note from Representative Paul
Tucker extending his deep appreciation for what the Board has been doing
throughout this pandemic for Salem. This has been a thankless job for all
of us, so to get that recognition and appreciation really means a lot.
S. Moore said since we made that decision obviously some businesses and
organizers were frustrated and scrambling but she also heard from so many
residents who were saying that they feel much safer with this policy in
place so she does feel very confident that we made the right decision.
J. Schiller said we should really be thanking the people of Salem. Ever
since the mask mandate downtown first started the compliance has been
amazing. There is always going to be a vocal minority. Everyone has had
to make compromises and sacrifices and extend themselves in ways they
are not used to in order to make this all work.
We have a deep appreciation for everyone in the community.
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MEETING ADJOURNED: P. Kirby moved to adjourn. G. Yuhas 2nd.
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
8:00pm
Respectfully submitted,
Next regularly scheduled meeting is
Maureen Davis Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 7:00pm
Clerk of the Board
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM,
MASSACHUSETTS
BOARD OF HEALTH
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 3RD FLOOR
SALEM, MA 01970
TEL. (978) 741-1800 DAVID GREENBAUM
health@salem.com HEALTH AGENT
KIMBERLEY DRISCOLL
MAYOR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
Notice is hereby given that a meeting of the Salem Board of Health will be held on Tuesday, September 28,
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MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes:
a. Board of Health Meeting, August 10, 2021
3. Steven Dion, Co-Owner of CrossFit Iron Spider & B&S Fitness Programs, request for a waiver of
the Board of Health mask mandate issued on August 23, 2021.
4. Chairperson Communications
5. Public Health Announcements/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health Nurse Report
b. Health Agent Report
c. Administrative Report
d. Council Liaison Updates
6. New Business/Scheduling of Future Agenda Items
Items that could not be anticipated prior to the posting of the agenda
David Greenbaum, Health Agent
cc: Mayor Kimberley Driscoll, Board of Health, City Councilors
Next regularly scheduled meeting is October 12, 2021, at 7:00pm
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