Board of Health
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · April 11, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF SALEM
BOARD OF HEALTH
MEETING MINUTES
April 11, 2023
MEMBERS PRESENT: Jeremy Schiller, Geraldine Yuhas, Datanis Elias, Sara Moore, Paul Kirby
Virtual Attendees: Jeffery Barosy, Attorney James Willis
MEMBERS EXCUSED:
OTHERS PRESENT: David Greenbaum, Health Agent, Heather Klosowski, 11 Summer Street
TOPIC DISCUSSION/ACTION
1. Call to Order 7:03pm
2. Approval of Minutes S. Moore motioned to approve the minutes. G. Yuhas 2 nd.
(March 7, 2023)
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
3. Heather Klosowski, 11 Summer Ms. Klosowski appeared before the Board to appeal a housing order issued
Street - Appeal of the Housing on February 17, 2023. She provided some history of the property. Her
Order dated February 17, 2023 father was a schoolteacher, and he began purchasing properties as
requiring licensed. investments. Her father was extremely generous with the rent, and he
raised it to $720 a month where it remained until 2020 when she took the
property over. At that point they decided to put the property on the market
and sell it. The rent was raised to $1300; Ms. Klosowski is a real estate
broker; she did a market analysis and could not find an apartment in Salem
for that low of a rent. They have been trying to sell the property and it has
been under agreement with the owners of the Salem Inn. They informed
the occupants that they were selling the property and needed to deliver the
property vacant to the buyer. It was at that time that three of the occupants
called the Board of Health to complain. She feels that this was done in
retaliation for the sale of the property and the notification they would have
to relocate. Ms. Klosowski informed the Board that she had started
eviction proceedings, offered the occupants money to relocate and free rent
and funds to reestablish residence elsewhere. The house is basically empty,
there is basically no money coming in and the taxes are about $14,000 per
year and the insurance is about $10,000 per year. The remaining occupants
have stated they are not leaving and would like to move to senior housing,
but the wait is approximately 3 years. She explained to the Board that her
father is 79 y/o and is looking to retire, the sale of this property one of the
final things to be done for him to retire. The house has been on the market
for 3 years and she feels the occupants knew or should have known they
weren’t going to be able to stay in the house. Ms. Klosowski informed the
Board that the potential buyer of the property was threatening to sue
because she was unable to deliver the house unoccupied per the purchase
and sale agreement. She stated she has been trying to assist the occupants
with finding a new apartment, but they won’t look at any of the listing she
sends them, she has set them up on an MLS feed, however they won’t
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confirm their email so they will not receive the listing notifications. She
doesn’t feel that the occupants are working with her at all to find suitable
housing that meets their needs. They want to sell the house and put this
behind them and she is asking the Board to be reasonable with them on this
matter and not come down on them like a ton of bricks. She asks if the
Board could use some discretion and asks them if they think this is
retaliation. The occupants have lived there for over 60 years, and they did
not call the Board of Health until they were informed, they would have to
relocate.
J. Schiller stated that the Board is only able to rule on the validity of the
inspection and would like to hear from Jeffery regarding the inspection. He
asked what is the timeframe for compliance to which Ms. Klosowski asked
why should they have to carry a house they just want to get out from under
because they refuse to leave and then are calling the Board of Health, they
do not want the building, someone wants to buy the building and these
occupants are standing in the way of the sale. The occupants are using the
Board of Health orders to stay in the house.
J. Schiller asked what is the status of selling the house?
H. Klosowski explained she has a lawyer that is working to get the
occupants evicted but doesn’t have a court date yet. Due to COVID it is
incredibly difficult to get the case in front of a judge which poses another
issue, she has timeframes to meet for the Board of Health but there is no
judge to hear her case. The occupants have an attorney that is arguing the
case based on the Board of Health orders as a breach of habitability. She
explained that her father grew up in a multi-family house and he did not
believe in gouging anyone on the rent, she acknowledges the unit is not in
perfect condition but based on the low rent they aren’t paying for perfect
condition.
J. Schiller asked Jeffery Barosy to speak on the inspection and report.
J. Barosy explained that regardless of the rent or how long the occupants
have lived in an apartment or the conditions they have lived in, once the
Board of Health does an inspection and cites violations those violations
have to be corrected.
Ms. Klosowski asked if the Board has any discretion, J. Barosy stated the
Board of Health does not have any discretion in these matters.
J. Schiller stated that with regards to discretion, if there is a violation of the
code there is no discretion. He asked J. Barosy if he is citing the violations
based on what he inspected and he answered yes.
Ms. Klosowski asked about the pipe that went through the floor, J. Barosy
explained he wasn’t citing the pipe but the hole around the pipe as a
violation. H. Klosowski didn’t feel this was something unsafe or
dangerous.
S. Moore stated she understood that while it may not appear to be a
violation if Jeffery cited it as a violation, then the Board doesn’t have the
ability to address if it is a violation or not.
J. Schiller stated the Board has to delineate if there are violations of the
code, Jeffery being the expert has determined these things to be violations.
What you’re asking is for discretion regarding the timeframe to correct
these violations.
H. Klosowski stated that discretion in relation to the timeframes would be
good but also to acknowledge that this is retaliation on the part of the
occupants.
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G. Yuhas asked if the occupants are not supposed to be there, have they
been evicted, don’t they have 30 days?
J. Schiller asked Jeffery if eviction mitigates code enforcement and what is
expected regarding the eviction, does eviction supersede the code violations
that were cited? J. Barosy informed the Board that whether or not there is
an eviction process taking place it does not change how the housing code is
enforced. The order is in place and valid unless the occupants vacate the
unit.
G. Yuhas asked when the violations need to be corrected. J. Schiller stated
each violation has a specific timeframe; Jeffery further explained the code
has timeframes for a property owner to make a good faith effort to begin
correcting a violation but has 30 days overall to correct all violations.
J. Schiller asked if there is any discretion or latitude with the timeframes or
is that what is required in the state code? Jeffery answered it is the
requirement of the state code.
Discussion took place about what the appeal process is for and what the
Board can consider in an appeal.
J. Barosy asked if the court has issued an eviction order? Ms. Klosowski
stated the eviction has been going on since November.
D. Elias asked if the case had been filed in court and if the court issued an
eviction order. H. Klosowski stated she may be interpreting the eviction
the wrong way; her attorney has given the occupants a 30-day notice to
quit.
P. Kirby asked what happens if the landlord is attempting to make the
corrections but the occupants are not allowing them in what is owner’s
recourse? Jeff explained that the code does not allow an occupant to
prevent a property owner from entering the unit to make repairs ordered by
the Board of Health. If they continue to not allow repairs to be made, then
the Board of Health can either drop the case or the landlord could petition
the court for an order for access.
Attorney James Willis asked to be heard relative to this appeal. Wants to
address a few things raised by Ms. Klosowski, first his client had back
surgery this morning and he would be very surprised if he had taken a call
from her regarding this matter and it is understandable that he would not
want her in the unit today as he was having surgery this morning. Second,
the case is not on for a trial date and his clients have not been evicted yet.
Under MGL, Chapter 239 Section 8A the occupants are probably not going
to be evicted because they will be owed more than they owe, they are
current on their rent, and he does not believe the court will remove them
from the unit. Should the court order an eviction under MGL Chapter 239,
Sect. 8A they will have at least a year because they are both elderly and
disabled, the court is not going to evict them in 30 days, they are in the unit
lawfully and they are looking to stay as long as the court will allow.
J. Schiller asked Ms. Klosowski if she wanted to withdraw her appeal and
she stated she did not.
D. Elias motioned to deny applicants’ request for the Board to provide
discretion over the violations cited by the inspector. Second by G.
Yuhas. All in Favor
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
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4. Robert Carp, Owner, Bunghole OFF THE AGENDA – Mr. Carp has requested a continuance.
Liquors - Appeal of violation of
Regulation #24 of the City of Salem
Board of Health Restricting the
Sale and Use of Tobacco Products
and Nicotine Delivery Products.
5. Chairperson Communications J. Schiller updated the Board about the coalition of regional Board of
Health Chairs, they will be holding another meeting next month. He
believes this regional collaboration is going to be a great thing and will be
unique for MA. One topic of discussion is opioid settlement funds and
how best to use them. He feels there are really exciting opportunities to use
these funds for mental health initiatives in Salem. What would be good
programs to deal with harm reduction or mental health issues?
D. Greenbaum informed the Board that during his recent budget meeting
the Mayor tasked him with creating a proposal and budget for how to spend
the settlement funds. As he investigated programming, he realized this was
going to be a bigger undertaking and would require input from stakeholders
6. Public Health Announcements in the community. There is a significant amount of money coming to the
/Reports/Updates city from these settlements and there is a great opportunity to do some
really impactful work around the opioid crisis. Discussion took place about
7. Public Health Nurse how much money the city would be receiving and if it could be used to hire
Report staff. D. Greenbaum explained that he would like to hire someone to
oversee all of the opioid activities in the city and hire or contract with
mental health clinicians to offer services. We are forming a coalition to
discuss issues that all communities in the region are experiencing. The
pandemic was the impetus for this consortium. As we move away from
8. Health Agent Report COVID Boards of Health can work regionally on specific initiatives like
mental health. Discussion about how the Opioid Settlement funds could be
used in relation to mental health took place.
J. Schiller invited other Board members to participate, S. Moore
volunteered.
D. Greenbaum informed the Board that he decided that Public Health
Nurse, Suzanne Darmody will only attend future meetings if there is a
pressing issue, she needs to update the Board about.
He updated the Board on her work with the SSU shelter and the regional
diaper drive that is taking place.
G. Yuhas asked about the Arctic Wolf Security management training. D.
Greenbaum explained to the Board that these trainings are part of the City’s
cyber security program and are required to be completed.
S. Moore asked about contacting IT regarding additional soon to be
deployed cyber security measures. D. Greenbaum informed the Board that
the City would be rolling out a two-factor authentication system to log onto
the City servers. This could be done through an app or using a FOB
device. He has decided that the Board will not use the FOB. The app
seems to be more user friendly and conducive to easier access to the
servers. Additional discussion regarding this process ensued.
9. Administrative Report Copy available at BOH office.
10. Council Liaison Updates NONE
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11. New Business/Scheduling of Future NONE
Agenda Items
12. Items that could not be
NONE
anticipated prior to the posting of
the agenda.
MEETING ADJOURNED: G. Yuhas moved to adjourn. P. Kirby 2 nd.
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
Meeting Adjourned: 7:51 PM
Next regularly scheduled meeting is Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 7:00pm
At City Hall Annex, 98 Washington Street, 1st Floor, Salem, MA
Respectfully submitted,
David Greenbaum
Health Agent
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM,
MASSACHUSETTS
BOARD OF HEALTH
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 3RD FLOOR
SALEM, MA 01970
TEL. (978) 741-1800 DAVID GREENBAUM, RS, CHO
health@salem.com HEALTH AGENT
ROBERT MCCARTHY
ACTING MAYOR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
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MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes:
a. Board of Health Meeting Minutes, March 7, 2023
3. Heather Klosowski – 11 Summer Street - Appeal of the Housing Order dated February
17, 2023 (Vote Anticipated)
4. Robert Carp – Bunghole Liquors, Appeal of violation of Regulation #24 of the City of Salem
Board of Health Restricting the Sale and Use of Tobacco Products and Nicotine Delivery
Products. (Vote Anticipated)
5. Public Health Announcements/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health Nurse Report
b. Health Agent Report
c. Administrative Report
d. Council Liaison Updates
6. New Business/Scheduling of Future Agenda Items
Items that could not be anticipated prior to the posting of the agenda.
David Greenbaum, Health Agent
cc: Acting Mayor Robert McCarthy, Board of Health, City Councilors
Next regularly scheduled meeting is May 9, 2023 at 7:00pm
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