Historical Commission
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · January 31, 2018
Minutes
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SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
MINUTES
January 31, 2018
A special meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, January 31,
2018 at 7:00 pm at 120 Washington Street, Salem, MA. Present were Jessica Herbert (Chair),
Laurie Bellin, Joanne McCrea, Larry Spang and Jane Turiel.
Also present: Councillor Christine Madore, Emily Udy and Tim Jenkin from Historic Salem,
Inc., and Joyce Kenney, resident of Lafayette Street.
Discussion of the role of the Historical Commission
The Commission discussed its dual role as an historic district commission and an historical
commission. The Commission also discussed its role as it relates to the Phillips Library buildings
and collections. The Commission agreed that the Chair has the discretion to allow comments
relating to the collections at the public hearing.
Ms. Herbert provided some background information on the Phillips Library collection and the
PEM new Rowley facility, which she stated is very impressive. She discussed some ideas for
mitigation to ensure accessibility of the collections, including funds for digitization and
expanding public hours. She noted that the Preservation Partners working group will be meeting
soon.
Discussion of SHC Administrative Procedures
Ms. Kelleher discussed opportunities for the Commission to streamline meetings.
Mr. Spang noted that the SHC deliberates more than other commissions, often trying to decipher
drawings during the meeting. He noted that other boards direct applicants to return at a future
meeting with more information. Others set up subcommittees to meet with applicants who can
then come back to the larger board for approval. He also noted that some boards identify specific
times that applications will be heard so that applicants have a better sense of the time to arrive.
Ms. Herbert related her recent discussion with the City Solicitor on restrictions to discussions
outside of meetings.
Ms. Turiel recommended that it is important to make sure that applications are very complete
when submitted for review and the Commission should consider creating a checklist of items that
are required.
Ms. Kelleher noted that the ZBA is revising their application requirements.
Ms. Bellin discussed whether staff should not accept applications if information is missing,
noting that in the past staff has been hesitant to turn away applicants. Some homeowners do not
have architects to create drawings. She also noted that the Commission has had very lengthy
agendas that have resulted in long meeting times.
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Ms. McCrea asked if the Commission could require that drawings be submitted.
Ms. Herbert noted that the Commission allows homeowners to provide a sketch with
measurements. She noted that the Commission has allowed a lot of designing at the table during
meetings. She asked if the Commission should continue discussions to the next meeting and not
design at the table. She asked if and how the Commission can help outside of the meeting.
Ms. Bellin suggested that the Commission help applicants but not at the meeting. If time extends
too long at the meeting, then the Commission should assign a member to meet outside of
meeting and continue the discussion to the next meeting.
Ms. Herbert asked how to limit involvement/help from a commission member to ensure that the
member is not being taken advantage by the applicant.
Ms. Emily Udy of Historic Salem, Inc. asked if the Commission could establish a time for each
application to let the audience have a general sense of timing. She also asked about the
Commission’s ability to fine owners for violations.
Ms. Herbert stated that is working with Ms. Kelleher and the City Solicitor to determine how to
activate fines.
Ms. Udy stated that without fines, developers will continue to do work without approval.
Ms. Herbert noted the example of the HVAC unit installed incorrectly at 95 Federal Street,
which the Commission is still in the process of trying to resolve the violation. She stated that the
applicants have still not fixed the problem. She questioned whether the Commission should have
imposed fines.
Mr. Spang noted that in some instances the language on the certificate is vague, which makes it
challenging to cite a violation. He suggested that the Commission be more precise in language or
attach a photograph/drawing to the certificate. Being more specific would allow the certificate to
be more enforceable.
Ms. Bellin noted that the Federal Street violation is still an ongoing matter since the work as
completed did not meet the specifics that were approved. She recommended that if not rectified,
then Commission should be able to fine. The Commission needs to be consistent in the fine
process.
Ms. Herbert discussed the escrow set up by the Building Inspector for 161 Federal Street to
ensure work was completed. She questioned whether the Commission could set up similar
system.
Mr. Spang noted that this escrow was tied to the occupancy permit and that the Building
Inspector has stronger leverage to impose escrow.
The Commission agreed to prioritize the process for violations, ensuring due process, and to
work with Building Inspector.
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Ms. Bellin asked if the Commission should consider mitigation for work not possible to be
corrected.
Mr. Tim Jenkins of Historic Salem, Inc. noted that due process is very important and that it is
important to work with the City Solicitor. He stated that consistency helps the Commission’s
reputation and not hurts it.
Ms. Kelleher discussed working on improving the process for the Commission to review projects
to ensure compliance with certificate before the Building Inspector signs off on building permit.
The Commission discussed the priority for improvements to SHC applications and for revising
the Commission’s Design Guidelines as it relates to violations.
Ms. Herbert recommended that the Commission work with HSI on revising design guidelines to
address modern challenges in historic districts such as HVAC units and solar panels. She also
recommended the Commission complete a thorough review of contracts to determine the work to
be completed.
Historic District Outreach
Ms. Herbert suggested Walter Beebe-Center as a great resource for restoration work. She also
noted that a recent lecture at the Pickering House on historic bricks would be a good opportunity
to research mortar and add a new workshop program.
Mr. Jenkins stated that HSI would like to join the Commission on educational efforts. HIS is
working with the Salem Athenaeum on an upcoming lecture on the design of port cities as part of
a larger effort on “TAD” talks – talking about architecture and design.
Ms. Kelleher reported that the City’s recently completed downtown survey could work in
conjunction with a TAD talk.
Ms. Udy noted that HSI has its house histories online. She asked how to cross reference these
resources with those at the PEM and DPCD. She also noted that the North Shore CDC has
offered to do a sustainability workshop in June or July.
The Commission and members of the audience discussed opportunities to promote educational
efforts, including accessing the mailing lists of the Assessors, neighborhood lists, and google
groups. The group also discussed people to present material, including the Salem Historical
Society, Bill Tinti, and possibly others.
The Commission discussed ideas for educational efforts, which included information on the
responsibilities of owners in the historic districts, restoration techniques, and restoration
materials.
Ms. Udy and Mr. Jenkins noted that the Salem Handbook has been scanned and is available on
the HSI website, but it is not searchable.
The Commission discussed opportunities to inform new owners of district responsibilities when
a transaction occur. Notifications were sent in the past but this process no longer occurs. They
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asked if there are automated bulk mailings that could include information to owners. Members
also discussed sending out email notices if the Commission could access an existing database.
Ms. Kelleher noted that she is planning to coordinate a realtor workshop soon that will include
welcome packets for new owners. She also reported that she is working on a new website that
will include information for historic district property owners.
Mr. Jenkins reported that HSI is working on a glossary of terms that relate to development
review. This glossary will be available online and will be given to neighborhood groups. He
suggested that it be added to the new website as well. Paper copies will also be available at the
HSI office.
Preservation Month Activities
Ms. Kelleher asked for input on activities for Preservation Month in May, including suggestions
for a kickoff event and workshops ideas.
Mr. Spang suggested hosting a workshop where homeowners could meet individually with an
architect. He noted other communities host 15 minute time slots for owners to meet with an
architect for advice on projects or to ask questions on building styles. He offered to provide
examples of this type of workshop.
Councillor Madore suggested the Commission consider hosting regular “clinic” hours, possibly
once a month in the office, where the staff planner would be available to meet with property
owners to discuss projects. She thought there were examples in other communities that could be
replicated in Salem. The Commission would need to set up a system to let people know about the
open hours. She also suggested that Commission members or HSI could participate in the
“clinics”. This type of open hours may be easier and less time consuming than hosting annual
workshops.
Ms. Herbert asked Councillor Madore about recommendations for reaching out to the City
Council to discuss SHC priorities, such as strengthening the demolition delay ordinance.
Ms. Madore offered to be a resource for mailing notifications. She also stated that as a city
planner, she thought it would be important to strengthen the demo delay ordinance since she was
surprised that the delay was only for six months.
Ms. Herbert questioned how far should the Commission should go on requiring good new design
as part of the demolition delay review. Some Commissions have language in their ordinance
requiring information on what will be built and whether it will be consistent with the character of
the surrounding neighborhood.
Ms. Kelleher reported that she is working on researching past cases of demolition requests in
Salem, including examples where the subject buildings were not demolished. She will present
this information to the Commission.
Ms. Bellin asked if the SHC can be legally required to serve as an approval authority for new
construction after the demolition.
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Mr. Spang agreed that it would be good to have leverage for the SHC to have design review for
new construction after demolition.
Ms. Herbert suggested that the SHC and HSI have members available to provide design input to
other city boards.
Ms. Udy suggested utilizing the group that successfully advocated for the plastic bag ban to join
in the argument that demolition is unsustainable.
Mr. Spang asked if the Commission can establish guidelines for new design and site conditions
after demolition occurs. He noted that some ordinances have language that a demolition permit
can’t be issued until all local permits are in place, although wouldn’t have stopped the demolition
and resulting vacant lot from occurring at the Washington and Dodge Street project since permits
were in place but the financing fell through.
Mr. Jenkins asked if language could be added that proof of financing is required for some
permits to be issued.
Ms. Bellin asked if a requirement can be added that construction needs to occur within a certain
time period.
Mr. Jenkins and Ms. Udy asked if the Commission was considering expanding districts. They
noted that there may be interest from owners who are located just outside of the district on the
edges.
Councillor Madore agreed.
Mr. Spang suggested that Derby Street may be a good district to consider for expansion since
only the buildings fronting onto Derby Street are included in the district, not buildings on
surrounding streets.
Ms. Kelleher suggested that the Commission attend neighborhood association meetings to
present opportunities for new and expanded districts, including Bridge Street Neck, Mack Park,
Northfields, Salem Common, Derby Street, etc.
Ms. Bellin expressed concern that the district ordinances include language that only elevations
visible from streets named in the district are within the Commission’s review jurisdiction. She
recommended Commission considered revisions to existing district ordinances.
Ms. Udy noted that property values have changed inside and outside of the district over the past
30 years since the districts were established.
Ms. Herbert asked HSI to assist the Commission with efforts to ensure that historic buildings are
not required to meet building code requirements for “new construction”.
Mr. Spang noted that a historic property owner could apply for relief from the state for building
code requirements and the SHC could support the request.
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Ms. Kelleher stated that she will research other communities to see how they are addressing
building code challenges for historic buildings.
The Commission discussed procedures for meetings.
Ms. Herbert suggested following the public hearing script for the next meeting and stated that
she would send out the script to members in advance of the meeting.
Mr. Spang suggested that the public be alloted two minutes to speak on a project.
Ms. Herbert noted that Commission members are allowed to leave if a meeting goes too long.
Ms. Bellin suggested that there be a sign-up sheet for attendees who wish to speak.
Ms. McCrea recommended that the Commission consider nominating the new multilingual
plaques installed by HSI and the NSCDC in the Point Neighborhood for a MHC Preservation
Award.
Ms. McCrea made a motion to adjourn at 9:47pm. Ms. Bellin seconded the motion. All were in
favor and the motion so passed.
Respectfully submitted by,
Patti Kelleher
Preservation Planner
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