Historical Commission
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · May 1, 2019
Minutes
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SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
MINUTES
May 1, 2019
A meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 7:00 pm at 98 Washington
Street, Salem, MA, 1st Floor Conference Room. Present were Chair Herbert, Laurie Bellin, Reed Cutting, Rebecca
English.
266 Lafayette Street – CONTINUATION
Tyna L. Hull and Paul F. de Napoli submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to rebuilt front porch
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 3/18/19
▪ Photographs
VOTE: Ms. Bellin made a motion to continue to the next regular meeting. Mr. Cutting seconded the motion. All
were in favor and the motion so carried.
21 Washington Square – CONTINUATION
Renewal Ventures LLC submitted a Certificate of Hardship for removal of snow fence
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 3/21/19
▪ Photographs
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion to continue to the next regular meeting. Ms. Bellin seconded the motion. All
were in favor and the motion so carried.
23 Chestnut Street
Otis and Susan Edwards-Mistler submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to alter door and windows on rear ell.
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 4/16/19
▪ Photographs
▪ Drawings by Derby Square Architects
Lee Dearborn of Derby Square Architects and Otis Edwards, Owner, were present to discuss the project.
Mr. Dearborn stated that the rear garden house isn’t visible from Chestnut Street and only the top corner is visible
from Pickering Street. They will remove 6 double hung windows on the west façade of the garden house and a
small door and add 3 new fixed floor-to-existing header height windows at the 3 left openings and an operational
Nanawall glass door system in place of the right 3 windows. There will be landscape alterations and a new terraced
patio in place of two existing wood framed staircases. The curvature of the garden house will be mimicked in the
new patio, they will eliminate any handrails and create a gradual procession down to the back yard. The new 3
windows will be painted white to match the windows of the main house. The detached carriage house will remain
as is.
Chair Herbert asked how the brickwork will be handled. Mr. Dearborn replied that it will be deconstructed, and the
brick will be reused with new mortar to match the existing color. The header material will be precast to handle the
span and painted white. They will remove an existing chimney and interior fireplace, the 8 other chimneys on the
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main building will remain. Mr. Edwards added that the fireplace is currently bricked-in and non-functional. Chair
Herbert asked if the interior of the garden house was used as living space and if the fireplace could be made
functional. Mr. Edwards replied that it is living space although many elements have been removed. Access to the
space from the main house is through a narrow hallway and the fireplace hearth projects out approx. 24” into the
space and has no historic significance. It’s not centered in the room and is awkwardly located at the right side of
the room by the entry. The space will become a family room for their children, and they plan to open it up more to
the garden and backyard, since they have no current outside area to use, only stairways that lead to a yard.
Mr. Dearborn noted that the space was named Garden House since the floor level is just above grade and the
current window sills are at chest height. The sills will be lowered to integrate it with the garden. Chair Herbert
asked about the pitch of the gutters. Mr. Dearborn replied the center downspout will be removed and the gutter will
become two pitched towards each end. Drywells will be used to eliminate the puddling of water which has caused
the brick patio to sink into the ground. Research at the Salem Public Library and a plate negative from the PEM
showed a small portion of the garden house stepping down to grade indicating it had better access to the garden.
The further back 3 windows have more space between them and transitions from 3 width to a double width,
indicating an extension of the Garden House, although the city didn’t have information on the date of this
extension. Ms. Kelleher noted the two corners of the building facing the garden are rounded.
Chair Herbert asked for the proposed patio composition. Mr. Dearborn stated they’ve explored a poured surface
with different patterns. He added that the Nanawall can collapse like an accordion but out of the three doors one of
them can be used as a single door. They will replace an existing skylight with a new 10-0’L fixed skylight with a
copper frame but the roof pitch will remain. The existing mechanical split system in the floor will have the
condenser relocated to the carriage house. English asked why there will be 2 sets of doors. Mr. Dearborn replied
that the rear opening will be for a Nanawall and the side wall openings for the windows and a second Nanawall.
The patio won’t wrap around the building and an outdoor kitchen is no longer proposed.
Ms. Bellin asked why the chimney demolition was proposed. Mr. Dearborn replied that it was desired by the owner
and his interior designer, to provide a clear view down the hallway without needing to awkwardly walk around the
chimney. If the hallway was wider it wouldn’t be as much of an issue. Chair Herbert stated that a site visit should
be conducted prior to the next meeting and requested that stakes be placed to show the proposed massing. The
proposed windows changes and removal of the chimney are significant issues.
Mr. Dearborn noted that the interior room is a bathroom. Ms. Bellin noted that the bathroom has two windows.
Mr. Edwards replied that there will be one window, the rooms will include a walk-in shower for in-laws and other
toilet room elements. Chair Herbert suggested they reconfigure the windows to create more blank wall space for
the bathrooms. Mr. Dearborn replied that they didn’t want to disturb the existing windows.
Public comment:
Stanley Smith, neighbor. Provided a contextual photograph of the building and property and noted that he met with
the Owner that afternoon. He expressed concern that the design that doesn’t look like it belongs within the historic
house McIntire District. The fenestrations should match the rest of the house like the Secretary of the Interior
Standards recommend. The proposed would be a better fit for a modern building, the proposed would no longer
look related to the house because of the fenestration, rhythm, and dimensions would differ. The new work should
be sensitive to the rest of the house.
Raphael Crespo, 25 Chestnut Street. Agrees with Mr. Smith. The integrity of the building, windows and scale
shouldn’t be there. The proposed design looks commercial and foreign to the language of the historic district. As
the next-door neighbor, he would see this view 100% of the time.
No one else in the assembly wished to speak.
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Chair Herbert suggested the applicant rethink the proposal, noting that she agreed with the neighbors that the
proposed design has a commercial feel but noted that it could be modified to French doors. Mr. Dearborn stated
that he wants to match the proportion of the 6”x6” divided lite windows and muntin pattern. Chair Herbert noted
that the Commission discourages chimney removals at integral parts of the house although rear ones are less of a
concern. This building has a softness that is lost with the proposed design that gives it a different feel.
Chair Hebert asked for the timeframe of the installation. Mr. Dearborn replied September is their intended start of
construction.
Chair Herbert suggested they design something more dramatic at the rear of the property that is less visible to the
neighbors. There could lower the windows somewhat and provide a rear exit to connect to the rear yard.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion continue to May 15th regular meeting. Ms. Bellin seconded the motion. All
were in favor and the motion so carried.
The Commission discussed scheduling a site visit for the property. Ms. Kelleher stated that she would send an
email to determine a date and time for the visit.
53 Summer Street
Chris and Stacey Norkun submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for new design for rear barn.
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 4/16/19
▪ Photographs
Chris and Stacey Norkun were present to discuss the project.
Chair Herbert noted that if the structure was demolished and rebuilt it may not qualify as a residence in the future.
Ms. Norkun stated that they’ve spent 10-month developing the plans and drastically reduced the size and
configuration of the post and beam structure. After the barn collapsed, they reevaluated the old structure which was
too big and decided that creating a larger structure felt wrong. Chair Herbert asked if the structure was accessible
from the rear. Ms. Norkun replied no, the neighbor’s rear driveway gives them the right-of-way. Ms. Norkun
noted that they will submit an application at a later date to install a new custom fence at the perimeter of the
property and between the barn and the Gedney House. GAF Slateline architectural shingles in “Antique Slate”
color will be used for the roof of the barn to match the main house and single hung custom wood windows with
interior pull levers and authentic joinery will also be used as will deadbolts at the doors. The custom-made
structure will be fabricated at a factory in Connecticut called The Barn Yard and built on site. It should be
completed in mid-September. It will be used as an extended family space. A large 9-pane fixed window will be
installed over the door, not a transom, to let in more light. No light will be added above the window because it
would have felt awkward. Chair Herbert added that several other projects used awning windows that have the
appearance of double hung windows.
Public comment:
James Zavaglia, 29 Summer Street, abutter. He is in favor of the proposed design.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion to approve as presented. Ms. English seconded the motion. All were in favor
and the motion so carried.
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39-41 Washington Square
Jeremy & Leah Peterson, Barbara Pervier, David & Lucy Coviello, Jane May, Nikolaus Sucher submitted a
Certificate of Hardship to replace slate roof with asphalt shingles
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 4/16/19
▪ Photographs
Jeremy Peterson, David Coviello, and Jane May were present to discuss the project.
Mr. Peterson noted that they submitted the existing condition report on the roof. The slate roof is in bad shape and
trying to repair it will damage it further. Chair Herbert stated that they need the opinion in writing. Ms. Bellin
agreed and added that having it all replaced is concerning since this roof has more visible areas than other projects.
Mr. Peterson noted that they received a quote from the contractor for the main roof of the structure, not the entire
roof. Ms. Kelleher asked if the ell building behind the sun room has a slate roof. Mr. Coviello replied that the top
right is asphalt and the left wing has rubber. Chair Herbert stated that a section of the back had been changed to
asphalt shingles without approval and suggested a site visit.
Mr. Coviello stated that he has had leaking issues with a skylight and also noted that squirrels that had accessed the
attic through holes were removed. Mr. Peterson added that the soffits have been rotted through. He stated that the
lowest price proposal to replace with architectural shingles was $32,00. Slate would be double the cost and would
not include necessary carpentry repairs that would be an additional $10,000. All of these roof concerns and the
200-year-old slate can be seen and accessed on the rubber roof outside his unit. Mr. Coviello added that roofer,
Kevin O’Keefe, informed them that even walking on the slate roof would cause more damage.
Ms. English asked if they priced replacing the front in slate and rear in asphalt. Mr. Peterson replied that they
didn’t ask about that specific roofing combination. Chair Herbert asked the applicant to submit the proposed
materials to Ms. Kelleher.
Public comment.
Barbara Schwartz (address not known) stated that slate falls off the building in high winds and land in her garden
and yard. She stated that she didn’t believe a hybrid roof makes sense since their home has double visibility, and
maintaining the slate is historic but also a headache. They would need slate on both sides which is more
aesthetically pleasing than asphalt, despite other houses have asphalt too. Ms. Kelleher noted that only two other
buildings on the street still have slate roofs. Mr. Coviello noted that slate also has a sheen when wet and wouldn’t
look the same with asphalt.
Mr. Peterson noted that the snow fence is in bad shape and they need to block off the sidewalk in the winter, so they
are proposing a double-rail snow guard. The asphalt shingles would be Slateline in the color grey.
Mr. Coviello stated that the proposed skylight would be approximately 21” wide to fit between the rafters and it
would be installed at the rear of the building.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion continue to May 15th regular meeting. Ms. Bellin seconded the motion. All
were in favor and the motion so carried.
18 Peabody Street – Massachusetts Historic Rehabilitation Tax Credit Application
Request for Letter of support
Ms. Kelleher stated that no one associated with this application was available to attend the meeting, but a letter of
support could be submitted after the fact. They have not met with the ZBA yet. In order to receive tax credits,
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they’d need to meet a very high standard. The building is a Colonial Revival style building in deplorable shape.
There was once a storefront and they want to add it in again. They are proposing a more appropriate 6 over 6
window pattern, rather than the current 1 over 1. Ms. Bellin raised concern about how reintroducing the first-floor
storefront will look with a residential use, requested a photo, and asked how long the façade has been in its current
state. Ms. Kelleher noted that the building restoration will be rigorously reviewed by the MHC and she can include
the Historic Commissions reservations about the storefront in the draft of a letter. Ms. English asked if the
applicant can he make revisions after the letter has been submitted. Ms. Kelleher replied yes. Ms. Bellin suggested
providing a letter of support and supporting the renovation as a whole. Ms. Kelleher noted that the entire street is
residential and reintroducing a storefront won’t be similar to anything else. Chair Herbert stated that changing the
façade below the window lintel won’t look right with the detail above. There should be another option and the
façade should still be restored.
There was no public comment.
VOTE: Ms. Bellin made a motion to provide a letter of support. Ms. English seconded the motion. All were in
favor and the motion so carried.
CLG National Register Eligibility Opinion Request – Proposed Lynde Street National Register Historic District
Ms. Kelleher stated that this would be a separate district and the SHC can make their opinion known to MHC. In
order for 10-12 Lynde to get tax credits it needs to be in a historic district and the neighbors would need to be
notified of this change. The Board reviewed the boundary map. Chair Herbert suggested that an existing carriage
house be include in the boundary despite modifications it’s undergone.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion to provide a letter of support. Ms. Bellin seconded the motion. All were in
favor and the motion so carried.
Other Business
13 River Street: Ms. Kelleher stated that their renovation work did not receive approval from the Commission despite
using the correct materials. It is also not on record with the Building Department.
12 Carpenter Street: Ms. Kelleher stated that the Commission approved the renovation work. Chair Herbert asked if
the windows were replaced or if they were existing windows. Ms. Kelleher replied that she would look into it and
noted that there are no storms.
Forest River Park: Chair Herbert stated that John Goff found arrow heads at the park and the parking lot renovation
done in relation to the drainage project from Canal Street was completed without an archeological survey. Ms.
Kelleher replied that this work should have been in the SHC jurisdiction due to state funding, which triggers historic
review. She noted that the Commission provided comment when changes were proposed to the MBTA rail line.
Historic Salem, Inc. 75th Anniversary Gala: Ms. Kelleher noted that HSI extended an invitation to the Commission
members to attend the gala.
Preservation Month: Ms. Kelleher stated that the 3rd annual breakfast will be Monday, May 13, 2019.
CDC Eligibility Option for a grouping of buildings in the downtown. Ms. Kelleher stated that the MHC did not agree
with the proposal to expand the Downtown Salem NR District boundaries because the subject area but built after the
fire. She noted that the area could be nominated as a separate historic district, but it would require entail more work
by the CDC.
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Ms. Kelleher stated that The Bridge at 211 sent an invitation to the Commission for a Preservation Month strategy
session.
Election of Officer:
Ms. Herbert noted that the Commission had not appointed a vice chair and asked the Commission members present
if they would like to be serve as the vice chair. Ms. Bellin offered to serve as the vice chair.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion to make Ms. Bellin Vice-Chair. Ms. English seconded the motion. All were
in favor and the motion so carried.
VOTE: Mr. Cutting made a motion to adjourn. Ms. English seconded the motion. All were in favor and the
motion so carried.
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Patti Kelleher
Community Development Planner
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Salem Historical Commission
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SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, MAY 1, 2019
7:00 P.M.
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 1st FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM
1. 266 Lafayette Street – Tyna L. Hull and Paul F. de Napoli – Certificate of Appropriateness – Rebuild front porch –
continuation
2. 21 Washington Square – Renewal Ventures LLC – Certificate of Hardship – Removal of snow fence - continuation
3. 23 Chestnut Street – Otis and Susan Edwards-Mistler - Certificate of Appropriateness – Alter door and windows on rear
ell
4. 53 Summer Street – Chris and Stacey Norkun– Certificate of Appropriateness – New design for rear barn
5. 39-41 Washington Square – Jeremy & Leah Peterson, Barbara Pervier, David & Lucy Coviello, Jane May, Nikolaus
Sucher – Certificate of Hardship – Replace slate roof with asphalt shingles
6. 18 Peabody Street – Massachusetts Historic Rehabilitation Tax Credit Application – Request for Letter of Support
7. Other Business
a. Minutes
b. Violations
c. Correspondence
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