Historical Commission
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · September 21, 2022
Minutes
SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
September 21, 2022
A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, at 6:00 pm.
VIRTUAL ZOOM MEETING. Present were: Jamie Graham, Milo Martinez, Mark Meche, Vijay Joyce, Larry
Chair Spang. Staff: Patti Kelleher. Not present: Rebecca English, Mark Pattison, Reed Cutting.
Ms. Kelleher noted that the meeting will being with a bare quorum until Chair Spang arrives. Vice Chair Joyce to
chair meeting.
3 Federal Court
Skomurski Development submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for a building and carriage house renovations –
Due to a clerical error, this application has been readvertised and will be heard on October 5, 2022.
25 Warren Street
Megan Millar and Joel Nentwich submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace porch with new addition
Ms. Kelleher stated that applicant has requested to continue to October 5, 2022 meeting
VOTE: Martinez made a motion to continue to the next regular meeting on October 5, 2022. Graham seconded the
motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, and Joyce were in favor and the motion so carried.
43 Chestnut Street
43 Chestnut Street LLC submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace fence sections and gate
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 6/28/22
▪ Photographs
Helen Sides, Architect, was present to discuss the project.
Ms. Sides noted that the home is half of a double house on the corner of Flint Street. Two panels in the fence have
identical pickets but the owner would like to in-fill the end openings with panels to match the new gate. The details
would be matched but there would be no door knocker or any other hardware. Mr. Joyce asked if the new panels
would be painted white to match the fence. Sides replied yes.
Mr. Martinez asked if the gates connect to other sections of the yard. Ms. Sides replied that she did not know,
although one side has a higher grade than the sidewalk and will require masonry construction to keep the grade in
place. It’s a historic garden and it’s unknown how long the current gates have existed.
Ms. Martinez suggested adding a non-functioning door knocker rather than a false panel. Ms. Sides suggested that
it would confuse people and it is better to have it read as a panel rather than a door. Mr. Meche and Ms. Graham
were in favor of the proposed design.
Public Comment: No one in the assembly wished to speak.
Ms. Martinez asked if the new panel would match the gate height. Ms. Sides replied yes.
VOTE: Martinez made a motion to approve the application as presented with panels to match the gate height and
painted to match the gate color. Graham seconded the motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, Joyce in favor
and the motion so carried.
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Chair Spang arrived at this time. Vice Chair Joyce continued as Acting Chair.
15 Chestnut Street
Peter Gordon submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 9/6/22
▪ Photographs
Peter Gordon and Karen Hayes were present to discuss the project.
Mr. Gordon stated that they wanted to repaint the entire house since the current scheme has the window shutters
and body the same color. The shutters were previously Essex Green and matched the fence and they would want
them to restore the Essex Green color. The current trim color is White and they want to paint it Linen White. The
proposed body color a lighter greenish/brown, the chimney paint doesn’t match anything historic, and the chimneys
would be white with black on top. The preferred colors are Wainscot Green for the body, Essex Green for the
shutters and front fence, Burnt Umber exterior doors, and Linen White trim, windows, and chimney base. The
brick foundation facing the driveway could be painted to match the body color or keep it natural.
Ms. Hayes noted that they consulted with Historic New England on the proposed color scheme and worked with the
Home Décor Group who researched the background of the colors. Mr. Joyce agreed with the concept but would
want to see a mock-up of the colors in person. Mr. Gordon replied that sample paint has already been applied to the
rear of the house.
Mr. Meche noted that the current front door is a more vibrant red and the Burnt Umber looks de-saturated, which
would be more appropriate for the home. Mr. Joyce reiterated needing to see the colors in person since they do
appear muted on the screen. Mr. Spang noted that the Burnt Umber would give a mahogany feel. He noted that
painted brick is usually a contrasting color rather than painting it the body color and that the front granite should
not be painted. Mr. Gordon replied that the brick at the driveway is only at the front half of the house, the back half
is clapboard down to the ground. It may have been painted for a continuity of the color along that façade. Mr.
Joyce replied that natural is preferred but the surface could be painted to ground that edge.
Mr. Martinez suggested using a different white color on the chimney because matching the trim color doesn’t feel
right. The chimney should be a more proper White since the Linen White reads as cream. Ms. Graham asked if
repairs were needed to the shutters and woodwork or if the trim around the doors would be painted. Mr. Gordon
replied yes, and all repairs would be in-kind repairs.
Mr. Joyce asked if the shutters had hardware. Mr. Gordon replied nothing prominent, the shutter dogs are not
visible, so the existing hardware would remain.
Public Comment:
Jennifer Kiefer, 13 Chestnut Street. The owners informed her of their painting plans, and she did the process
herself 7-8 years ago. She supported the research and thought put into it, support the applicants plans and is happy
t1o see the proposed colors.
Lois Ferraresso, 315 Essex Street. Knows the owners and agreed with the Ms. Kiefer. The owners have put in
much research for the proposed colors, supports the proposed work and agreed that the colors are slightly different
than portrayed in the rendering.
No one else in the assembly wished to speak.
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Mr. Martinez suggested Atrium White for the chimney and agreed that the brick should return to natural. He also
raised concerns with matching the shutters to the fence, a moving part to a non-moving part. Mr. Spang noted that
Essex Green is typical color. Mr. Gordon added that the fence has 2 gates which are movable parts.
VOTE: Spang made a motion to approve as submitted subject to field visit to confirm the proposed colors by Joyce
and Martinez, with the paint color to be Atrium White, and the brick to return to natural or return if the applicant
desires to paint it. Meche seconded the motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, Joyce, and Spang were in
favor and the motion so carried.
4 Pickering Street
Stanley Smith submitted a Certificate of Appropriateness for architectural roof shingles
Documents & Exhibits
▪ Application: 9/6/22
▪ Photographs
▪ Owens Corning Duration brochure
Stanley Smith, owner, was present to discuss the project.
Mr. Smith stated that he has lived in the home for 48 years and delivered an existing and proposed shingle with Ms.
Kelleher. The proposed architectural shingle is by Owens Corning, in the Duration product line, in the color Slate
Stone Grey. Ms. Kelleher noted that this proposed shingles has been approved at 34 Summer Street in Onyx Black.
Mr. Joyce asked if there was a black vs. grey color preference. Mr. Smith replied that he preferred the color
variations which enriches the shingles vs. a solid color. Mr. Meche noted that the Onyx Black color would absorb
more heat and grey would be a cooler solution, which is becoming increasingly important. Ms. Kelleher noted that
Commission’s preference for straight cut shingles and less color variation, as well as the concerns regarding heat
absorption in all black.
Mr. Spang stated that as a 1949 house, it has later details which raised concerns with the roof. All black feels too
dark and a charcoal grey feels right. He could go either way but charcoal to lighter grey makes sense. Mr.
Martinez noted that the Commission has also approved Cambridge IKO line, Harvard Slate would be a good
alternative and agreed with Mr. Spang on color variation providing visual interest. Mr. Smith stated that there is a
difference between shingles of different colors vs. the same color variation throughout, although he is open to an
alternative shingle. Mr. Joyce agreed with the use of color variation in the new shingles. Ms. Graham agreed with
Mr. Martinez and suggested that the uniform shape will help the roof feel less busy. Mr. Joyce stated that IKO is an
architectural shingle, but they would better replicate wood shakes. Harvard Slate from IKO would be preferred and
is as common as Owens Corning. Ms. Kelleher noted that the Commission has approved 4 or 5 of this type
recently.
Mr. Smith requested the Commission’s preferred color. Chair Spang replied that the Owens Corning has some blue
specs which wouldn’t be preferred and Harvard Slate with IKO would be preferred.
Public Comment: No one in the assembly wished to speak.
VOTE: Spang made a motion to approve IKO Cambridge shingle in Harvard Slate. Martinez seconded the motion.
Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, Spang, and Joyce were in favor and the motion so carried.
FY23 Community Preservation Plan - Request for Comment/Input - continuation
September 21, 2022, Page 4 of 5
Ms. Kelleher stated that every year the city prepares an annual CPA plan with typically only minor changes and a
new list of completed projects. The Commission provided a letter last year which asked for Preservation
Restrictions required for historic properties, building permits should not be issued until the preservation restriction
has been filed, which was accepted by the Community Preservation Committee (CPC). They recommended that
municipal projects funded by the CPA and under the historic resource category that aren’t in a local historic district
be reviewed by the Preservation Planner, which has not been occurring previously.
The Commission also reiterated previous comments from earlier years: having a holistic approach to a project;
funding a full restoration of the entire resource and not a phased project; and signaling strong support for ongoing
use of CPA for private entities. Nothing new has jumped out at her that should be changed. If there are any
projects or categories of projects the Commission believes should be focus on or be added, they should let her
know. This could include the barracks building at Winter Island and the hangar, which are city owned resources at
significant risk of being lost. The City is seeking funding for Fort Lee but did not receive the battlefield grant. Mr.
Meche questioned whether asking for specific projects rather than categories would be more successful, since
structures do deteriorate, and they could prioritize what is on the verge of collapse vs. buildings in better condition.
Mr. Spang added that some buildings require stabilization.
Mr. Spang noted seeking funding resources for buildings was discussed at the resiliency event the previous
weekend. Ms. Kelleher suggested it would be good use of CPA funds. Mr. Spang noted that he was a panelist and
there was a range of discussion from much of their historic district being along the waterfront to buildings needing
to be raised up as well as flood insurance. Ms. Kelleher stated that Newport is working on a new set of guidelines
to raise up structures since one of their historic districts is along the waterfront. Advocacy for specific projects may
be the direction to head in, since the program is working well as far as funding, preserving, and projecting
resources. Mr. Spang asked about the use of CPA funds on private projects. Ms. Kelleher noted the push back
received on restoring the Salem Deed due to symbolism as well as restoring the stained-glass windows at Dickson
Chapel due to the lack of public benefit because it’s not a widely used building. Mr. Spang suggested thanking
them for their use of CPA funds on past private projects and noted that some were concerned with giving funds to
non-profit organizations on private projects. Mr. Meche supported endorsing the use of CPA funds on private
projects when it enables preservation and noted that Winter Island is park land not just private property. Ms.
Kelleher suggested the use of several tracks of CPA funds.
VOTE: Meche made a motion to approve drafting a letter by Chair Spang and Ms. Kelleher based on their
comments. Martinez seconded the motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, Spang, and Joyce were in favor
and the motion so carried.
Other Business:
a. Meeting Minutes;
June 1, 2022, June 15, 2022, July 6, 2022
VOTE: Meche made a motion to approve the June 1, 2022, June 15, 2022, and July 6, 2022 regular meeting
minutes. Martinez seconded the motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche, Spang, and Acting-Chair Joyce were
in favor and the motion so carried.
b. Other:
Ms. Kelleher stated that Jane Guy is retiring on September 29th, who staffs the CPA, so she will now take over
those duties. Beth Forrestal is willing to take on more administrative duties to help with the Historical
Commissions applications.
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Mr. Meche stated that he has been approached by Endicott Design School to talk about Winter Island, which will
bring attention to the site for more resources.
Ms. Kelleher stated that there is one board vacancy and no McIntire District or Lafayette Street residents on the
board at this time. Mr. Cuttings spot may also need to be filed since it expires in March of 2023. Mr. Spang
suggested the BSA be contacted. Ms. Kelleher suggested seeking someone from an alternative discipline and noted
Ms. Norkun’s suggestions of someone who walks the districts and has in-depth knowledge of the areas or reaching
out to the neighborhood associations. Mr. Meche suggested a newsletter published quarterly to highlight items in
the local historic district to get the word out. Ms. Kelleher suggested an intern send letters to contractors reminding
them of the process, as well as realtors, or adding a notice to tax bills, to remind homeowners that in-kind repairs
also require applications. Mr. Spang suggested sending notices to fence companies and to work with companies to
show them what would work in the district. Ms. Kelleher stated that the design guidelines should be clear, but they
may not be looked at it and that many people ask what is approved, so those items could be assembled into a list
and reviewed as a minor change rather than requiring a public hearing, such as the comment regarding a gray vs.
black roof shingles, the use of straight cut shingles in a lower variation of color if it didn’t meet the criteria it needs
to be changed. The Commission agreed to an intern organizing that information.
Mr. Martinez suggested Annie Harris’ daughter be approached. The Commission discussed other possible
Commission members.
34 Broad Street: Ms. Kelleher stated that they owner vented heating out the rear of the building which was an extra
$10,000 rather than pipes running along the sides of the house. Also, the contractor did a nice job on the windows
which are beautiful.
9 Hathorne Street: The windowsills were installed.
186 Federal Street: The new retaining wall was completed.
Ms. Graham asked about the progress of the shingle replacement on the Washington Square & Williams Street
house. Ms. Kelleher replied that the work may not have been completed.
Mr. Martinez requested receiving a commitment from Ray Jodoin to remove the information booth from Salem
Common as well as the patch of asphalt at one of the entrances. Ms. Kelleher replied that anything added for
Halloween should be removed.
Mr. Martinez stated that after 2 years the some of the lamp lights were never changed. They are glassless lamps
with only hood that shine down and blind those looking up. The city installed lanterns without glass so the glass
wouldn’t have to be cleaned.
Adjournment
VOTE: Martinez made a motion to adjourn. Graham seconded the motion. Roll Call: Martinez, Graham, Meche,
Spang, and Acting-Chair Joyce were in favor and the motion so carried.
The meeting ended at 7:45PM
Respectfully submitted,
Colleen Brewster
Historical Commission Clerk
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