Historical Commission
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · December 6, 2023
Minutes
SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
MINUTES
December 6, 2023
A meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 6:00PM
via Zoom Virtual Meeting. Present were: Larry Spang (Chair), Mark Meche, Kelly Tyler-Lewis, Vijay
Joyce, Rebecca English (arrived late). Staff: Patti Kelleher. Not present: Milo Martinez, Mark Pattison.
Request to amend Certificate of Appropriateness for gutters 3 Cambridge Street—continuation
Ms. Kelleher reported that the applicant requested to amend a Certificate of Appropriateness for gutters.
1 Pickering Street — Continued discussion on fence design
Joseph Locke was present. Mr. Locke provided updated drawings of fence in wood. Posts on front of
house were wood, and Mr. Locke indicated plan to maintain existing pillars on corners and by entrances.
These were the only reported changes, as well as altering style of fence to better fit style of house. Chair
Spang referenced page A100 of drawings to show a detailed image of fence. The base of fence would be
brick about a foot tall, and then a 5’ wood fence atop. Chair Spang remarked that the drawing looked
more metal than wood. Mr. Locke noted that the fence would be simple square with a pointed top. Chair
Spang referred to sheet 201 as the proposal at present, which Mr. Locke affirmed. Chair Spang was
desirous of seeing a new drawing that featured wood instead of metal. Mr. Locke clarified that
maintaining style of existing was the goal. Ms. Kelleher showed existing photo of property. Mr. Locke
noted that existing gates would stay as well as caps on top of brick piers. A new wood fence would be
added to match existing; maintaining height as-is, only to make posts a bit higher to compensate for loss
of brick. Mr. Locke reiterated that wall would stay the exact same height, though the proportion of wood
to brick would be shifted to compensate for loss of brick. Mr. Joyce asked if the construction, materiality,
and color of existing fence would be matched, which Mr. Locke affirmed, “as much as possible.” Mr.
Meche clarified that the fence gate was metal, which Mr. Locke affirmed. Mr. Joyce asked if the fence
posts would be drilled through the top rail; and advised Mr. Locke to clarify this with the builder, because
such an approach could yield rot. Mr. Joyce also noted that side fences on Broad and Warren Streets look
like a different style in the plans and requested more clarity. Mr. Meche noted that the pickets on
Pickering St are about 4”, and questioned if the material being used would be plastic or wood. On the
board fence, Mr. Meche noted that the posts were not expressed on the public side. Mr. Meche also
requested more detail in the drawings. Mr. Locke expressed openness to any of the Commission’s
recommendations on the board fence.
Chair Spang noted that drawings did not show items raised by the Commission during past meetings,
though called the discussion “productive.” Chair Spang requested updated drawings so that there was no
slippage between what is built and what has been discussed. Mr. Joyce proposed looking at another
Colonial Revival building – i.e. 48 Chestnut – noticing side of that house as corner turns to Flint, halfway
down the Flint St façade does go up to a privacy fence. Mr. Joyce noted that this was a Colonial Revival
copy of the Derby House. Mr. Locke clarified that the goal would be to step up the privacy fence in order
to frame the façade of the house, which Mr. Joyce affirmed. Ms. Tyler-Lewis recommended that the
applicant begin exploring the costs for specific materials. Chair Spang showed a mock-up of the
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Commission’s plan to have a shorter transparent fence to frame the façade of the house, which changes to
a taller privacy board fence in the backyard. Chair Spang recommended that Mr. Locke have an architect
work on more specific drawings. Mr. Meche expressed preference for brick panels at the corner (Ms.
Padjen’s suggestion from “public comment” portion). Ms. Tyler-Lewis also noted that examples on
upper Warren Street exist for brick fence proportions.
Public comment:
Elizabeth Padjen, Chestnut Street, said that not much attention was paid to alternative recommendations
based on the new plans. Called the existing plans “wholly inelegant” and not in line with character of the
original house. Questioned the appropriateness of the shown front gate. Noted that Spanish cedar or
mahogany might be worthwhile to account for Mr. Joyce’s comments. Attention to scale vertically
should be paid. On Warren and Broad Street sides, brick stubby base hits granite and stops; feels like
there should be some kind of resolution. Ms. Padjen wanted to see brick panels at the ends of the fences.
Expressed “profound disappointment” with the state of the plans and research on the part of the owner.
Wanted to see an appropriate Colonial Revival-style fence.
Helen Sides, Broad Street, also expressed displeasure for the presented plans. Spoke to this house having
three streetfronts. The fence being shown was referred to as a “backyard fence.” A street front fence
should not be 6’ tall. Did not want to see any portion of the fence being fully opaque. Ms. Sides wanted
this house to be visible from all sides. Expressed that the fences should be transparent. Referred to the
fence plans at present as too informal for Broad and Warren Street sides.
VOTE: Mr. Joyce motioned to continue discussion to the next meeting. Ms. Tyler-Lewis seconded the
motion. Roll Call: Tyler-Lewis, Meche, Joyce, English (abstained), Spang were in favor and the motion
so carried.
337 Essex Street—continuation
The Salem Athenaeum submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for new fence paint
color.
Documents & Exhibits:
▪ Application: 10/30/23
▪ Slideshow/photographs
Pamela Hartford and Jean Marie Procious were present on the call.
Ms. Kelleher noted that several members attended a site visit to the property since the last meeting. Chair
Spang noted that the basic idea was Sag Harbor paint color would be used on the fence facing Botts Court
as well as on the fence post at the corner of property abutting Botts Court neighbor(which is neighbor’s
post), including all posts and post caps. Fence perpendicular to the street would remain painted to match
neighbor’s fence color fence, thus a color transition would occur.
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Public comment:
Ms. Kelleher noted that a letter had been received from residents on Botts Court expressing conditional
support for the proposed color of Sag Harbor.
VOTE: Mr. Joyce motioned to approve use of the Sag Harbor paint color in the manner explained by
Chair Spang. Ms. English seconded the motion. Roll Call: Tyler-Lewis, Meche, Joyce, English, Spang
were in favor and the motion so carried.
374 Essex Street—continuation
Jim Sullivan submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors.
Documents & Exhibits:
▪ Application: 10/11/23
▪ Slideshow/photographs
Project architect Helen Sides was present on the call to represent the applicant.
Ms. Kelleher noted that building modifications had been approved at a previous meeting, but the proposal
for new paint colors had been continued. Ms. Sides reported that applicants Jim Sullivan and Emma
Hamilton did some sampling to determine a deeper color. Hague Blue (body) and Swiss Coffee (portico)
were shown. Window trim, cornerboards and fascia were all intended to be Hague Blue to match body
color. Ms. Sides noted that entry portico and new portico on rear of house would be painted Swiss Coffee.
Ms. Sides noted that tall columns on garden side may also be painted Swiss Coffee and would be partly
visible if looking between house and library. Mr. Joyce commended the color selections as well as
painting the entire house in a solid color but wanted to verify the colors in the field. Ms. Tyler-Lewis
questioned if Farrow & Ball or Benjamin Moore paint would be used, noting that it would be difficult to
match the Farrow & Ball color with a different paint product.
There was no public comment.
VOTE: Ms. English motioned to provide preliminary approval of paint colors as submitted pending field
review. Mr. Joyce seconded the motion. Roll Call: Tyler-Lewis, Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in
favor and the motion so carried.
381-385 Essex Street, Grace Church—continuation
Grace Church submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace portion of roof with
architectural shingles.
Documents & Exhibits:
▪ Application: 10/17/23
▪ Slideshow/photographs
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Eric Wagner was present via phone. Mr. Wagner noted that the church has agreed to pursue the solar
panel option but requested approval of a Certificate of Hardship for replacement of slate with the option
for either asphalt or solar. Chair Spang noted that final installation details are typically asked for, though
in principle an affirmation could be given for EPDM roof with solar. Ms. Kelleher noted that removal of
slate would qualify under hardship, though replacing slate with solar was not typical. She also noted that
replacement was requested for only a section of roof. Mr. Meche and Mr. Joyce expressed approval for
the applicant’s plan. Chair Spang noted that the asphalt color New England Slate had previously been
proposed, which Mr. Wagner noted was still preferred based on its similar edge treatment and variegation
in color. Chair Spang clarified that Certainteed had previously been approved as a preferred shingle of
the Commission, which Ms. Kelleher affirmed. Chair Spang clarified that any flashing done would be in
copper, Mr. Wagner affirmed.
There was no public comment.
VOTE: Ms. English motioned to approve a Certificate of Hardship for replacement of portion of slate
roof with either Certaineed asphalt architectural shingles in Highland Slate color or EPDM roofing and
solar panels. Flashing to be in copper and final details to be confirmed prior to final installation. Mr.
Meche seconded the motion. Roll Call: Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion so
carried.
11 Lynn Street—continuation
Lynn Street Home Trust submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace windows
and door.
No one was present on the call representing the application.
VOTE: Mr. Joyce motioned to continue the application to the next meeting. Mr. Meche seconded the
motion. Roll Call: Tyler-Lewis, Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion so carried.
36 Derby Street
Stanley Wrobel submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for building modifications
(after the fact).
Documents & Exhibits:
▪ Application: 11/2/23
▪ Slideshow/photographs
Stanley and Barbara Wrobel were present on the call.
Electrical panel installation was larger than what had previously existed, and paint colors were different
from agreed upon. Mr. Wrobel noted that paint colors for shingles and trim had been updated with
charcoal slate for body; white for trim, and blue “Malibu Coast” for doors. Mr. Wrobel noted that this
work was done in 2021, and that an old version of the guidelines may have been used by the applicant.
Mr. Wrobel said that the homeowners considered the work to be repairs rather than something to be
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reviewed. Chair Spang clarified that the goal would be to approve new paint colors; electrical update; and
change to windows. Mr. Joyce clarified that exposing the trim was what was meant by change to
windows, which Mr. Wrobel affirmed. Mr. Wrobel noted that wood rot had occurred on windows, which
required repairs. Mr. Wrobel noted that homeowners could not return to clapboards and did their best
with existing siding; cut back a bit to reveal windows as they were when it was a clapboard house. No
windows were moved, Mr. Joyce clarified. Mr. Wrobel said that storm windows were removed from
most of the home’s windows. Mr. Joyce questioned if band molding was removed, which Mr. Wrobel
affirmed, citing rotted wood. Mr. Joyce noted that all the sills had horns on them and commended Mr.
Wrobel for restoring window trim. He noted that building previously had two electrical boxes and now
there are four (or three and a half, more precisely). Ms. Kelleher noted that meters include new shutoffs
as well as a blank panel in the center. Mr. Joyce asked if the homeowners had also painted the foundation
red, which Mr. Wrobel affirmed, citing the desire to use a color that looked like brick. Mr. Wrobel noted
that a greenish color had existed prior, which did not work with color of siding.
Chair Spang noted that window restoration works well for the property and was not too bothered by gray
color for body. Chair Spang called the red foundation color “a bit too red,” and wondered whether the
stainless steel flue pipe could be hidden somehow. Mr. Joyce noted the date of the house (circa 1830) and
called the white color used for the trim to be too stark, proposed to fine-tune white color and deal with
flue pipe. Mr. Joyce preferred moving the electrical meter, though Mr. Wrobel said that they had always
been in that location. Mr. Meche noted that the flue pipe/vent had previously been in the area indicated as
existing to remain.
Commission members examined past Google Street view images of the property. Mr. Wrobel noted that
the house had been purchased in November 2020. Ms. English agreed that the white was stark. Ms.
English was of the mind that the red would fade over time. Ms. English was not a fan of the blue for door
color but agreed that similar colors had been used in the past. Mr. Wrobel requested a site visit to confirm
if the white was truly too stark, which members were amenable to.
Public comment:
Dan Graham, 0 N Pine, questioned if the homeowner had painted the electrical box to match the body of
the house or if the house had been painted to match the color of the house. Mr. Wrobel clarified that
boxes were painted to match color of house. Mr. Graham was informed that electrical boxes may be
painted by homeowners to match color of house.
VOTE: Mr. Meche motioned to accept reconfigured window trim restoration and/or reconfiguration,
body color, color of the doors, placement of the electrical meters painted to match the house, and new
vent pipe also painted out to match house color. Ms. English seconded the motion. Roll Call: Meche,
Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion so carried.
VOTE: Ms. English motion to continue discussion on color of window trim and foundation to allow time
for a site visit. Mr. Meche seconded the motion. Roll Call: Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in favor
and the motion so carried.
24 Fort Avenue
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New England Power Company requested a waiver of the Demolition Delay Ordinance to demolish a circa
1950 substation building.
Documents & Exhibits:
▪ Application: 11/20/23
▪ Slideshow/photographs
Joe Vuto was present, project manager for National Grid for construction project at substation.
Mr. Vuto noted this is an asset improvement project where transformers are going to be changed out, with
new switch gear and control building to be installed. Aerial view of Salem Harbor #45 Substation: Relay
House (red) Control House (blue) was shown. This substation was determined to have “high risk” in
terms of safety and reliability without updates to outdated equipment. The transformers were also
identified to be near end of life, at risk of oil spilling to surrounding community. A new building up to
current codes and standards was planned for installation to make overall system more reliable, safe, and
able to take on increased load. Mr. Vuto noted that the planned substation is not visible from parking lot,
but is in center of many other electrical stations.
Ms. Kelleher noted that the subject building was subject to a 12 month delay should the Commission find
the building historically significant and preferably preserved. Chair Spang wanted to know if new
equipment would go in a new building or would be pad mounted. Mr. Vuto noted that new switch gear
equipment would serve as the building, to be shipped from vendor in pieces and installed on a cement
foundation. Chair Spang questioned if any studies had been done to determine if nearby properties would
be impacted by noise from new electrical equipment. Mr. Vuto noted that new equipment should actually
hum less than existing older equipment, based on discussions with project team, though clarified that no
studies had been undertaken. Ms. Kelleher noted that no inventory form for this building (built circa
1950) exists, and it has not been found historically significant in recent planning studies for the property.
No public comment.
VOTE: Mr. Joyce made a motion to find the building not historically significant. Ms. English seconded
the motion. Roll Call: Tyler-Lewis, Meche (recused), Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion
so carried (the Demolition Delay was waived).
1 Holyoke Square—Holyoke Mutual Fire Insurance Company Building
Request for CLG (Certified Local Government) Opinion regarding determination of National Register
Eligibility.
Image of building was shown, with original building constructed in 1906 with an addition added in 1975.
The architect, Smith and Walker, also designed Hawthorne Hotel and Post Office, according to Mr. Joyce.
The building owner has prepared a Form B inventory form for the property with an opinion that building
is eligible for listing in the National Register. Since Salem is a Certified Local Government, the Historical
Commission is required to make its own determination on eligibility. Mr. Meche clarified that the 1975
addition was not made by Smith & Walker, which Ms. Kelleher confirmed. A discourse occurred
concerning how recognition in the National Register of Historic Places impacts building owner’s access
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to state and federal historic tax credits. The Commission was supportive of the research undertaken by
the applicant.
No public comment.
VOTE: Ms. English made a motion to find the building eligible for listing in the National Register based
on Criterion A and Criterion C as described in the Form B inventory form. Mr. Joyce seconded the
motion. Roll Call: Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion so carried.
149 Federal St—continuation
Kathy and Joseph Archambault submitted a request to amend previously issued Certificate of
Appropriateness for paint colors.
Kathy and Joseph Archambault were present on the call.
Ms. Kelleher reminded the Commission that the remaining item for discussion is a request to amend the
approved paint colors. The applicants wish to switch the body color of Portsmouth Blue (California
Paint) to Woodland Green (Benjamin Moore). The Archambaults had based this color on 121 Federal
Street, which was shown. Ms. Kelleher noted that the property file for 121 Federal Street indicates that
the colors are Briarwood Green with Navajo White (Benjamin Moore) for the trim. Mr. Joyce noted that
the selected color was not historically inappropriate. Chair Spang wondered whether the exact colors
from 121 Federal could be used. Ms. Archambault noted that the Briarwood was a little more grey than
green, and that the homeowners wanted more of a green. Chair Spang wanted to ensure that the
Woodland Green would not present as too much of a pastel hue. Ms. Archambault clarified that the
applicants had never come before the Commission to request Navajo White for the trim color, even
though that was the color the Commission approved. Mr. Meche proposed deputizing a Commission
member to review the colors in the field and Mr. Joyce volunteered. Mr. Joyce expressed concern over
the final trim color given that the applicants were not in favor of Navajo White. Ms. Archambault offered
to meet with Mr. Joyce to go over trim colors in the field.
VOTE: Ms. English motioned to preliminarily approve Woodland Green pending confirmation in the
field by Commissioner Mr. Joyce as well as to nominate a trim color to review and ratify by Commission
at the next meeting on December 20. Mr. Joyce seconded the motion. Roll Call: Meche, Joyce, English,
Spang were in favor and the motion so carried.
Other Business
383 Essex St
Ms. Kelleher reported on the emergency need for a new meter at the property. One of the building’s units
is serviced with an electric heating system and is currently without heat. The electrical service has to be
increased to 200 amp from 100 amp which requires a new larger meter with a shutoff panel on the
exterior of the building. Typically this type of work would need to go to a public hearing but that would
mean the unit would be without heat for another two weeks. Ms. Kelleher noted that Chapter 40C would
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allow for quickly approving the service based on a public safety issue (i.e. tenants not having heat). Ms.
Kelleher noted that electric meter is in the basement, but a new requirement exists whereby shutoffs must
be installed on exterior of building. Chair Spang recommended approving under a Certificate of Hardship
(i.e. public safety issue). Chair Spang also recommended including language on removal of old
abandoned conduit, painting to match house color, etc.
VOTE: Ms. English motioned to approve installation of new emergency shutoff and removal of old
conduit, painting to match house color, under a Certificate of Hardship. Mr. Joyce seconded the motion.
Roll Call: Meche, Joyce, English, Spang were in favor and the motion so carried.
Adjournment
VOTE: Ms. English motioned to adjourn. Mr. Meche seconded the motion. All were in favor and the
motion so carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:07PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Dan Graham, Historical Commission Clerk
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SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION
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MEETING AGENDA – REVISED II
1) Request to amend Certificate of Appropriateness for gutters - 3 Cambridge Street - continuation
2) 1 Pickering Street – Continued discussion on fence design
3) 337 Essex Street – Salem Athenaeum – Certificate of Appropriateness – New fence paint color -
continuation
4) 374 Essex Street – Jim Sullivan – Certificate of Appropriateness – Paint colors - continuation
5) 11 Lynn Street – Lynn Street Home Trust - Certificate of Appropriateness – Replace windows and door -
continuation
6) 381-385 Essex Street – Grace Church – Certificate of Appropriateness – Replace portion of roof with
architectural shingles – continuation
7) 36 Derby Street – Stanley Wrobel – Certificate of Appropriateness – Building modifications (after the fact)
8) 24 Fort Avenue – New England Power Company – Waiver of the Demolition Delay Ordinance – Demolish ca.
1950 substation building
9) Request for CLG Opinion – National Register Eligibility for 1 Holyoke Square – Holyoke Mutual Insurance
Company Building
10) Request to amend certificate for paint colors – 149 Federal Street
11) Other Business:
a. Minutes;
b. Violations;
c. Correspondence
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