Park & Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · January 19, 2021
Minutes
FINAL
Salem Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes of Meeting
Date and Time: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:45 P.M.
Meeting Location: Via Zoom
Members Present: Debbie Amaral, James Shea,
Bob Callahan, Amy Everitt
Also Present: Patricia O’Brien
Clerk: Kathleen Fitzgerald
Meeting Called to Order
Debbie Amaral called the meeting to order at 6:45 P.M. She welcomed everyone to
Zoom and stated that the Board would approve the Minutes from the September 15,
2020 meeting and then the public would have a chance to speak for a maximum of three
minutes. The Park & Rec Commission would ask questions first and the public would
need to raise their hand and be recognized to speak. Debbie advised that when the
Commission votes, there must be a roll call.
Bob Callahan makes a motion to approve the December Minutes. Amy Everitt seconds.
Roll call was then taken and the Minutes were unanimously approved.
First on the Agenda:
Molly Euni Morrow, 338 Rollstone, Fitchburg, MA 01420 – Witchwood Tours
Seeking approval to continue doing tours and clarification on parking. She had presented a
Business Plan and in it highlighted alternative parking. In addition, she asked if she could be on
the Events Calendar on the Park & Rec. website.
Trish O’Brien advised that she had just sent the Business Plan to the Board and that they needed
time to review it and asked Ms. Morrow to highlight items in the Business Plan.
She advised that these tours would be about the ecosystems and sustainability and there would be
no foraging. She stated her ideas were new but appeared very promising in Salem. She said she
would point out plants you can find at different times of the year and this would be modified as
the seasons change.
Debbie Amaral asked her to explain what she was thinking about regarding parking. Ms.
Morrow said she had been having people park at the golf course, Castle Hill and behind the
school.
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Debbie Amaral said the Board was concerned about people on the tours parking at the golf
course on the weekends and during the busy season. She stated she wanted Ms. Morrow to tell
tour participants to park somewhere else.
Bob Callahan advised that Ms. Morrow would have to get permission from the School
Department to use their lot. He further stated that the Board would not give permission to park
there and it was only a suggestion. The Board could give permission for Castle Hill.
James Shea stated that the golf course was the biggest revenue maker and the revenue from the
tours would not be substantial. He further stated that if the tours interfered with the golf course
he could not vote in favor of it.
Amy Everitt inquired about the four tours per day on weekends. Ms. Morrow said that would be
in October. She said the rest of the year it would not be more than two tours a day, but if she
hired another guide it would be four tours per day.
Amy Everitt stated that Salem residents have access to this trail, and she wanted them to
continue to have access. She asked if the Board should think about a maximum number of tours
and a maximum number of people and stated that after Covid there would be the concern about
the number of people on tours. Ms. Morrow said she would like the maximum to be twelve after
Covid. Amy Everitt stated that that needed to be put in place in the proposal so that everyone
was in agreement.
Fee structure was discussed and Trish O’Brien said she would like it to be $40.00 per tour and
details could be worked out to pay once a month, but she stated she would like to see a schedule
in place so the Board would know exactly when tours were taking place. Ms. Morrow stated she
thought a percentage calculation would be better She asked if she was going to rent the trail,
would that mean no one else could use it. Debbie Amaral said absolutely not, and Trish O’Brien
advised that there was a lot of concerns from the Friends of the Salem Woods because of the
increased foot traffic.
Ms. Morrow said she thought the percentage calculation would be better because she was not
getting exclusive use. Debbie Amaral stated that when someone rents the Common, they do not
get exclusive use.
Bob Callahan stated that Salem Woods is probably one of our most valued passive recreational
assets. Recreation for them is not walking the path and running into people on a tour. It is an
area that has been open to the public for years and taken advantage of by the public. He said his
concern is that we should not commercialize it and further stated his concern that we should not
inconvenience the public and residents of our City.
Amy Everitt addressed Ms. Morrow stating that she advised the Board that she only received
$16.50 per booking from Trip Advisor. That is about $5.50 per person you are giving back to an
entity that we have no control over. She further stated that Ms. Morrow was giving more money
to an entity that doesn’t help us financially. Ms. Morrow said she wished she did not have to pay
trip Advisor. Amy Everitt went on to say this this is our space and Trip Advisor was making
money off of our space and giving us nothing and they should not get more than the City of
Salem.
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Ms. Morrow said she wasn’t requesting exclusive access to Salem Woods, but more concerned
with the fee structure.
James Shea said he was looking at this venture as a business person. He said to Ms. Morrow that
she was making money, Trip Advisor was making money and the City was not making money.
He advised Ms. Morrow to increase ticket prices. Bob Callahan asked Ms. Morrow what the
maximum of tours she told Trip Advisor she would do. Ms. Morrow said 2. Bob Callahan again
asked if a maximum of 2 tours was her plan for the next year. Ms. Morrow said 2 tours during
the week and up to 4 tours during the busy season. Bob Callahan asked what her busy season
was and Ms. Morrow said September. Bob Callahan said that April 1st to November 1st was the
busy season.
Debbie Amaral suggested tabling this.
James Shea makes a motion to table this, Amy Everitt seconds, roll call is taken and it passes
unanimously.
Ms. Morrow asked what was needed from her before the next tour. Debbie Amaral suggested
she speak with Trish O/Brien about this.
Next:
Tom Devine (Planning Department), Todd Kirton (site professional) and Iris Lin
(landscape architect) -- Mansell Open Space Soil Remediation Concept Plan –
Todd Kirton stated they came before the Board to talk about the area of the park that was open
space with the basketball court that had contaminated soil.
Tom Devine said that there are drainage issues at the basketball field, and they were directing the
contractor to make changes to address the drainage issues. He said that in 2018 they did soil
testing and found high levels of arsenic and that Mass DEP considered it an imminent hazard.
He further advised that contaminated soil was removed from three residences and the schedule
for the project depended on funding because soil remediation was expensive, and funding had
not yet been secured.
Mr. Kirton presented slides and advised that arsenic was their primary concern. He said while
doing soil remediation they wanted to improve the parking area and the park. He said one option
of the site plan was to make the central area more level for multiple uses. They were proposing
to repair the parking area and adding one handicap parking space. He stated they wanted to keep
as many existing trees as possible.
There was a discussion about the cost per cubic foot for remediation. James Shea asked if we
were getting any State or Federal grants. Tom Devine advised State and Federal could not fully
help but another option is competitive EPA clean-up grants and they were looking at every
other option with perhaps some City sharing.
Debbie Amaral asked if there were any questions:
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Councilwoman Flynn – She said she wanted to thank everyone working on this. She advised
people have been in contact with her and they want to get this remedied as soon as possible.
Bob Callahan asked if I was possible to cap the parking without carting away land fill. Todd
Kirton advised that would be very difficult. You would have to make the argument to Mass DEP
so it may be a hard argument to make that you weren’t cleaning it up but just putting a cap over
everything.
Alison Harrison, 63 Proctor Street – She advised she lived on the corner of Pope and Proctor.
She said she and her husband are both disabled. She said the site is very hazardous and
dangerous. She said the average person with good mobility would have trouble walking. She
asked who was responsible for the overall current state of the site.
Debbie Amaral asked Tom Devine to answer. Mr. Devine said the City is responsible. He asked
Ms. Harrison if her concern related specifically to that portion of the site which is blocked. Ms.
Harrison the entire length is an obstacle. She said there were sandbags, cones knocked over, and
lot of debris, etc.
Tom Devine said he had received images yesterday and reached out to Salem Department of
Public Services and the obstacles would be removed.
Ms. Harrison said that was good news but asked if after all of this work was competed would
there still be a ton of arsenic. Debbie Amaral deferred this question to Tom Devine who said this
was a challenging issue and asked Todd Kirton to answer. Mr. Kirton said you could clean up a
site and as long as not accessible there are no worries. He stated that when you have a 3’ barrier
there is no exposure. It would only be harmful if ingested. Ms. Harrison asked if that message
could be communicated to a multiple of audiences.
Councilwoman Morsillo; She asked if Mr. Kirton could talk a bit about the timeline and how
long until completion. Mr. Kirton said once funding was in place it would be approximately 3-6
months and he said they would probably want to time it during non-Winter months. He said the
project would probably take a total of 6 months.
Bob Callahan said it looked like it would be more than one year before completed and asked if it
was possible for the next 1 or 2 years to make a more permanent fence and to keep the grass cut.
He said people do not want to ride by and see what looks like a dump. Tom Devine said he
thought it was important to consider having temporary fencing.
Debbie Amaral said she would like to see this project expedited as it is a great park for the
neighborhood
Tom Devine asked if the Board had any questions about the design. He said if the Board stood
behind the design, they could pitch it regarding funding.
Trish O’Brien stated that they had spoken about having an accessible path to the basketball court
and Iris Lin said yes. Bob Callahan asked if there was any danger in using the basketball court
where it is non-porous and could it be fenced off and still useable.
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Mr. Kirton said if you fenced that off you have the contamination going toward Longdon Street
It remains a hazardous condition so no way to access it to allow any portion of the site to get to
that area.
Debbie Amaral said this Plan doesn’t seem to have any major changes. Trish O’Brien stated that
the path is now coming off the existing wall and he basketball court would have its own separate
entrance. The other design showed it coming off the main parking lot.
Trish O’Brien asked the Board if they had a preference. Debbie Amaral asked why there could
not be 2 paths. Trish O’Brien said they would like the open grass area to be as large as possible
to provide options for other programming. Iris Lin said Option 1 has a longer and larger area.
Amy Everitt said she would lean towards a bigger field. Bob Callahan said bigger field also.
Amy Everitt makes a motion accept Option 1, Bob Callahan seconds 3 Board members
affirmatively voted to accept Option 1. Roll call is taken and passes unanimously.
Councilwoman Morsillo asked if there would be new benches along Mansell Parkway. Iris Lin
said they were only proposing benches along the basketball court. Trish O’Brien said there
would be granite rocks that people could sit on. Councilwoman Morsillo asked how accessible
they would be. Trish O’Brien said there would be sone on the skate park side and some on the
basketball side. Councilwoman Morsillo thanked Trish O’Brien for the information.
Debbie Amaral asked if there were any further question and no response.
Next:
Willows Phase I Update -- Dave Kurcharsky, City of Salem Parking Director – He came before
the Board to discuss some ideas to get some feedback. He presented a slide show. He stated his
department was asked to look at utilization and also to take a look at the City’s traffic ordinance
to see how regulations compared to signage on streets. He stated metered spaces were not
utilized during the week, but there was high utilization on the weekends. He advised that
Restaurant Row was utilized the most and Fort Avenue utilized the least. Memorial Drive also
had low utilization. He said there was no signage on part of Restaurant Row and no signage on
the park side of Fort Avenue. He advised that they were looking to designate a lot for two hour
metered parking. He said the meters are currently $.50 per hour and looking to raise it to $1.00
per hour. They would like to identify loading zone for businesses on Restaurant Row and
recommended a combination of drop off and pick-up area with the remaining spaces having
meters with a two-hour limit at the rate of $1.00 per hour. He stated that they needed
clarification for the motorcycle area.
Debbie Amaral thanked Mr. Kurcharsky for taking the time to look into the ordinances and doing
this. She stated that enforcement was only good if there was enforcement and asked if there
were any assurances that there would be enforcement. Mr. Kurcharsky stated that they wanted to
set expectations to when people should be paying in these areas. He advised that they offered the
ability to pay via an app. He said the Police Department does not have access to that only staff
does. He advised that in the winter the meters were removed. Debbie Amaral said she
appreciate that in the off season.
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Bob Callahan asked if there was a designated parking area where residents could park for free.
Mr. Kurcharsky said they do not have the means to determine if they are residents or not. It was
suggested that a parking sticker may be the way to go. Bob Callahan said he firmly believed that
Salem residents should have the option to park there for free.
There was a further discussion of stickers and kiosks and the cost and maintenance of the kiosks.
Councilman Robert McCarthy – Thanked Dave for all his research. He said he wanted to dive
into what is park area and what is not. In the past it included every paved area and classified it as
a street. He said when this proposal came out, he made sure the Legal Department was looped
in. The designation along Fort Avenue was resident sticker parking but it needs to be enforced.
He said when you looked at the cut through at Memorial Drive it is not wide enough for 2 lanes
of parking. He said it was safer when not parking on both sides of the street. He stated that if
you start eliminating parking there would be a marshmallow effect. He said he liked the idea of
kiosks and stated they do have some expense to them but having them would mean not having
poles. He stated that kiosks were easier and a neater way to get people to pay. He questioned
how to create a price index to allow people from Salem to enjoy the parks and stated he was
interested in the kiosk prospect.
Bob Callahan advised that this past summer the Willows had one of the busiest springs and
summers, but if you look at the revenue from the parking meters, less money was made. He
noted that people park for free because there is no enforcement.
Trish O’Brien asked Dave about the cost of kiosks and how many signs were needed so people
knew they must pay. She asked if there was a difference in a kiosk and the number of signs
needed or if you just use your smart phone. Dave advised there would be kiosks at the entrance
and exits which would have signage saying pay here. Dave further stated that a lot of kiosks
were not needed because you pay by plate and it does help with enforcement.
Debbie Amaral advised that in Medford they had physical vehicles checking. Dave said they
were looking into that technology too.
Debbie Amaral thanked Dave for doing this work and asked if there was anything the Board
needed to do. She asked if it was just reporting today and then coming back when a vote was
needed. Mr. Kurcharsky said he would be giving the same presentation to the Traffic
commission. Debbie Amaral asked Mr. Kurcharsky to mention that the Board would like a
higher meter rate and enforcement. Dave confirmed that it would be $1.00 per hour in the
current metered lot and $.50 per hour in the new lot to be constructed. Debbie Amaral also
stated the Restaurant Row would have 15 minutes of free parking.
New Business:
Trish O’Brien stated that the Board still needed to discuss further the narrowness of the cut
through. Bob Callahan said the cut through should be one way from Dead Horse Beach to Fort
Avenue which would keep people from going through the neighborhood and if it was made one-
way and no parking that would solve the problem.
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Debbie Amaral asked if there was anything else. Trish O’Brien advised the Board needed to
vote on her appointment letter. Debbie Amaral stated that since they did not have the letter they
could give Trish a temporary extension for a month.
Amy Everitt makes a motion for a one month extension with a vote next month. Bob Callahan
seconds. Roll call was taken and it passes unanimously.
A motion to adjourn is made by Amy Everitt seconded by Bob Callahan. Roll call was then
taken, and unanimously passes.
The meeting ended at 9:31 P.M.
Next meeting – Tuesday February 16, 2021 via Zoom.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kathleen Fitzgerald, Clerk
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS
JEAN A. LEVESQUE COMMUNITY LIFE CENTER
PARK, RECREATION & COMMUNITY SERVICES
401 Bridge Street, Salem MA 01970
Tel. (978) 744-0924
Kimberley Driscoll pobrien@salem.com
MAYOR
Trish O’Brien
Superintendent
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 19, 2020 @ 6:45pm
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CITY OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS
JEAN A. LEVESQUE COMMUNITY LIFE CENTER
PARK, RECREATION & COMMUNITY SERVICES
401 Bridge Street, Salem MA 01970
Tel. (978) 744-0924
Kimberley Driscoll pobrien@salem.com
MAYOR
Trish O’Brien
Superintendent
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Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Agenda
401 Bridge St, Salem Ma
Tuesday January 19, 2020 @ 6:45pm
Meeting Called to Order
Approval of December Meeting Minutes
Euni Morrow – Witchwood Tours presentation for Tours at Salem Woods.
Mansell Open Space Soil Remediation Concept Plan – Presented by Tom Devine, Todd Kirton, Iris Lin
(Tighe and Bond)
Willows Phase I Update Parking Proposed Regulations/Fees Dave Kurcharsky, City of Salem Parking
Director
Visitors and Requests:
Superintendents Report:
Old Business:
New Business: Appointment Letter Approval for Patricia O’Brien
Next Meeting Tuesday, February 16, 2020
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