School Committee
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · December 20, 2021
Minutes
Salem School Committee
Committee of the Whole Meeting Minutes
Monday, December 20, 2021
A Committee of the Whole (COW) meeting of the Salem School Committee was held on
Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:00 pm using the Zoom platform.
Members Present: Mayor Kimberley Driscoll, Ms. Mary Manning, Ms. Amanda Campbell, Dr.
Kristin Pangallo, Mr. Manny Cruz, Mr. Fleming and Ms. Ana Nuncio
Members Absent: None
Others in Attendance: Dr. Stephen Zrike
Call of Meeting to Order
Mayor Driscoll calls the meeting to order at 5:06pm. She notes the committee is meeting to
review proposed revisions to Policy 6502 and then move into Executive Session to review a
labor issue regarding negotiations. She calls the roll.
Mr. Fleming Yes
Ms. Manning Yes
Dr. Pangallo Yes
Ms. Nuncio Yes
Mayor Driscoll Yes
Amanda Campbell (enters at 5:12pm)
Manny Cruz (enters at 5:12pm)
Meeting is called to order, 5 members present.
Discussion of Proposed Revisions to Policy 6502: Student Advisory Committee
Ms. Nuncio provides an overview of the changes made by the policy subcommittee to the draft
proposal provided by the equity subcommittee meeting. Ms. Nuncio shares an overview of the
conversation had during the Policy Subcommittee Meeting, specific to the scholarship amounts.
She notes the full committee being cognizant of the proposal. Noting updates to the withdrawal
language as well. She notes having this opportunity for the full committee to weigh in.
Ms. Manning requests clarity on calling the Student Advisory Committee a subcommittee of the
School Committee noting that it isn’t a subcommittee of the school committee. Ms. Manning
shares concern for the monetary product provided to members of the Student Advisory Council
in regard to it being compensation. She notes an additional concern being the accumulative
total overtime potentially being $2,500. She doesn’t believe it’s entirely clear how the money
will be distributed.
Ms. Nuncio asks if the chair is not considered one of the officers. Ms. Campbell shares the roles
are Chair and four additional officers, so five total. Ms. Campbell references the conversation
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regarding money and notes the with the size of the budget, the scholarship wouldn’t be a heavy
lift even if the Chair were to hold that role for consecutive years and receive the highest
scholarship possible to be awarded for holding that role. Ms. Campbell notes having the
wording and the process reviewed by counsel with no concerns provided back to the Equity
Subcommittee.
Mayor Driscoll notes that this is before the COW as the Policy Subcommittee had done some
work to the policy and proposal and thought the full committee may want to weigh in on the
policy. Mr. Cruz confirms this is the reasoning. He notes the timeline and not having to wait until
the next Equity Subcommittee meeting to have this reviewed. He notes making the suggestion
to get this on the agenda for the COW to allow the two subcommittees to come together and
hammer out details of what’s being put forward. Ms. Manning wanted to make sure Ms. Nuncio
had an opportunity to weigh-in on this.
Ms. Nuncio notes for the record, being concerned of the use of the word compensation being
attached to this policy as we did not want to incentivize or make it seem we were paying for
leadership. Ms. Nuncio shares her thought process in alleviating this concern by noting the
students are not paid regularly or provided a stipend, but rather receive the scholarship funding
upon graduation.
Ms. Manning raises that scholarships have a sense of competition. She notes the only person
who can get the most scholarship is the Chair of the committee, so calling it a scholarship is
misleading, so ultimately they are getting paid to do the job. She recalls last year’s Chair stating
if there was no compensation then they did this (the role) for nothing; and she replied that they
(the officers) don’t do it for nothing, they do it for experience and growth by working on the
committee. She notes the outlook of no money, it’s done for nothing is troubling. She notes the
clarification for the allotment of money but calling it a scholarship doesn’t align with the fact
that students are being paid for the job they are doing on the SAC.
Mr. Cruz raises that we have other groups that have scholarships designated for the particular
activity in which the student is participating. The SAC is open to all students as is the ability to
run for office for these particular roles. He wants to recognize that there’s a process for
becoming an officer and the Chair and it’s not that it’s a closed process, any student could
serve. He identifies these roles are a tremendous undertaking as the students are giving up their
time, giving back to the district. He notes folks being concerned of the word compensation
versus scholarship so he notes the process in which other groups have scholarships as well,
noting the SAC is one group that is in direct connection to the school committee. He confirms
his support for the proposal.
Ms. Manning asks if there are other student activities that have a scholarship automatically
attached to them because they are the president of the activity, group, or club. She notes not
knowing of any other group where the president of that group will automatically be awarded a
scholarship for completing the year in that role. Mr. Cruz notes there are groups in which the
scholarship is associated with the program where membership ties to the opportunity to obtain
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a scholarship. He shares that in regard to tying scholarships to service, you’d have to consider
the similar process of equity internships, the United Way, etc.
Ms. Manning revisits her questions regarding an activity where one single position is
guaranteed a scholarship. Mr. Cruz notes he doesn’t have the information she’s requesting and
identifies adults and students receiving stipends for volunteering as advisors on committees and
other instances in the district where there is a form of stipend, compensation, or scholarship for
the work. Conversation surrounding volunteering and compensation is had between Mr. Crux
and Ms. Manning.
Ms. Nuncio notes that Ms. Campbell as a comment. Mayor Driscoll asks if Mr. Cruz is done with
his statement. He notes that his scholarship received in the past required work in the role as a
volunteer and notes we are not on uncharted grounds. Mayor Driscoll calls upon Ms. Campbell
who notes scholarships come in varied forms and can’t speak to all the scholarships given by the
three high schools in the district. She notes having done research on the proposed scholarship
structure and that there are other districts that provide a comparable structure. She notes
adults choosing students to be awarded scholarships and in this instance it’s the student body
electing those for the positions in which they will receive a scholarship for serving. Ms.
Campbell notes there may be disagreement in the philosophy of providing this scholarship for
those in these roles but personally she would love to see the scholarship recognizing service for
these roles.
Mayor Driscoll notes the other agenda item and notes saving the debate surrounding Policy
6502 as the intent for the meeting was to explain the policy and it may not be one there is not
unanimous support for but the vote can be taken at a future school committee meeting. She
notes her expectation is that this will come forward at a future meeting in the new year and will
go through the typical process of vote and three readings.
Ms. Manning states that she believes it was on tonight’s agenda to be voted on later on but
notes she could be wrong. Mayor Driscoll notes it is not on the regular school committee
meeting agenda and therefore cannot be taken up for a vote. Ms. Campbell notes it never made
it out of policy. Mayor Driscoll notes it remains in policy and the full committee can think about
the how and the why until it goes forward as any other policy would from the subcommittee to
the regular committee.
Mr. Cruz notes the policy subcommittee made a motion to send to a vote. Ms. Manning and Ms.
Nuncio concur. The school committee secretary shares that there may have been confusion
regarding the next steps and that the understanding was to preview the policy to the full
committee in the COW meeting before submitting for a vote during a regular school committee
meeting. Mr. Fleming notes not being able to adopt anything in the COW and if this is for a
recommendation for first passage it’s not possible in a COW meeting. He also notes before
voting on it, he would like to have a review of the districts that give scholarships to their officers
in their SAC, and he would like to know of other school activities that give a scholarship specific
to the student serving as an officer. Until having that information he doesn’t want to vote.
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Mayor Driscoll notes this is still in the policy subcommittee, it will need to go back to the policy
subcommittee and be voted out in the traditional process before coming to the full committee.
She notes perhaps the policy subcommittee could provide Mr. Fleming with the requested
information. Ms. Manning wonders if the Equity Subcommittee could provide that information
requested as Ms. Campbell noted having some of that information before. Mayor Driscoll notes
that the information could come from wherever.
Adjournment
Ms. Manning makes a motion to enter the executive session. Mayor Driscoll reviews that the
next item on the agenda requires executive session pursuant to Chapter 7, not to reconvene in
open session. Mr. Fleming seconded. A roll call vote was taken.
Ms. Manning Yes
Dr. Pangallo Yes
Ms. Nuncio Yes
Mr. Cruz Yes
Ms. Campbell Yes
Mr. Fleming Yes
Mayor Driscoll Yes
Motion carries 7-0
The committee enters executive session and the public meeting ends at 5:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Jensen Frost
Executive Assistant to the Deputy Superintendent
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