City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · May 2, 2000
Minutes
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS, NEW YORK
TUESDAY, MAY 2, 2000
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
7:15 P.M.
PRESENT:
Thomas Curley, Commissioner, Public Safety
Kenneth Klotz, Mayor
Michael Lenz, Commissioner, Finance
Thomas McTygue, Commissioner, Public Works
Bernard Mirling, Commissioner, Accounts
STUDENT COUNCIL MEMBERS:
Victoria Boone, Student Mayor
Amy Howard, Student Finance Commissioner
Nicholas Lobosco, Student DPW Commissioner
John Phillips, Student Accounts Commissioner
Tom Peretti, Student DPS Commissioner
OTHERS PRESENT:
Phillip Klein, Board of Supervisors Representative
Anthony Scirocco, Board of Supervisors Representative
STAFF PRESENT:
Christine Gillmett-Brown, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Carol Kennedy, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
Bob King, Deputy Commissioner, Public Safety
William McTygue, Deputy Commissioner, Public Works
Jeffrey Wait, City Attorney
PUBLIC HEARING B Group Home at 40 Michael Drive
Fred Erlich, Director Living Resources, said he had been the director of Living Resources for 19 years. He said people do not choose
to be disabled and those that are need the services that Living Resources offers. He said Living Resources has helped more than 600
individuals over the last 25 years.
Fred Erlich said he understood the neighbors in this area had some concerns. He said, though, there has never been any incident of a
client in the Living Resources program hurting or accosting anyone. He said, statistically, people have a higher chance of being harmed
by someone from the general population than from a client in the Living Resources Program. He said historically individuals in the
Living Resources program are more likely of becoming a victim than being the individual inflicting the harm.
Fred Erlich said this home would be managed, staffed and maintained by Living Resources employees. He said they have a staff of five
individuals for maintenance, however, items such as snow removal and large maintenance items would be contracted. He said they
propose to have four individuals living in this four-bedroom home. He said during the waking hours there would be two staff members
and during sleep time there would be one. He said homes like these give individuals an opportunity to grow and all they ask is that the
neighbors be compassionate. He said their residents will be good neighbors.
Carol Petrosky, Living Resources representative, said Living Resources has homes in several other communities throughout the capital
region. She read a letter of support from a neighboring property owner who resides near the Kyler Avenue home in Albany. She said
they have received many letters of support such as this one. She said they have put a great deal of money into maintenance of these
homes and plan to continue to do so. She then distributed pictures of many of these homes.
Fred Erlich said homes such as these provide a great opportunity for these individuals. He said there would be four male individuals
living in this home and then gave a brief bio on each of those individuals. He said that, Joshua, one of the residents, will maintain a job
with Price Chopper while living at this residence.
Fred Erlich said he understood that a petition had been distributed among the neighbors opposing the location of this home for various
reasons. He said they will not have more than four individuals at this residence and they will serve only the disabled population and no
criminals. He said their staff is well trained and there is oversight by the state.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked about the oversight. Fred Erlich said the state has a regular review process of the residence, training and
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked about the oversight. Fred Erlich said the state has a regular review process of the residence, training and
quality of care. He said these reviews are done by the Office of Mental Retardation and Development Disabilities. Mayor Kenneth
Klotz asked if an individual was not satisfied with a response to a concern expressed to Living Resources, could that individual go to
OMRDD. Fred Erlich said yes.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz opened the public hearing.
Betsy Hamilton, 35 Lefferts Street, said people become fearful when they are not knowledgeable. She said Living Resources only wants
to provide the best quality of life for these individuals and they simply ask that nearby property owners be a good neighbor to these
individuals. She said she was concerned with the exclusionary attitude expressed by certain individuals.
Christy Johnson, 42 Michael Drive, read a prepared statement from Michele Anderson, attorney, expressing the neighbors concerns. She
said the neighbors want a thorough understanding of what was going to happen at this residence. She asked that the Council examine all
of the facts and perhaps look at some better locations.
Bonnie Unser read a letter from Nancy Mazie in support of this group home. She said she has a son who is disabled and all individuals
deserve a place to live. She said property values are not affected by the location of these groups homes. She said the staff training
process is lengthy and appropriate.
Barbara Bouchey said she has two disabled brothers and she was delighted that one of her brothers was now able to live in Saratoga
Springs in a group home. She said people in this area are afraid because they simply are not informed. She said generally these
individuals are innocent, kind, loving, helpful and good citizens. She said her brother has a job and uses the bus despite his disability.
She said perhaps if the concerned neighbors were in a position to be around these individuals their fears would dissipate. She pointed
out that these individuals have quarterly reports which includes an evaluation on how they can become a better person. She said there
have been no reported incidents of violence and in fact, violence is usually directed at these individuals. She asked the neighbors as
well as the Council members review all of the information before making a decision.
John VanZandt, 32 Michael Drive, said he attended the meeting held a few days ago on this issue and was still concerned about a few
issues. He questioned how, Joshua, would be able to ride his bike to work in inclement weather. He questioned how these individuals
would be able to assimilate themselves into the neighborhood if they leave every day to go to work. He said he was told that Joshua was
the highest functioning member of this home and wondered how the other individuals would function. He said the neighbors were not
getting the whole story and questioned why Saratoga Springs was being used for all of these group homes. He said it was his
understanding staff members receive only one week of training.
Bob Eagen, 54 Michael Drive, asked why this public hearing was being held if this was a Adone deal@. Mayor Kenneth Klotz
clarified that the state law gives the City Council little oversight on this issue. Bob Eagen asked how many group homes were located on
the west side. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was not sure, however, thought there was approximately 17 group homes in the City and
between 10 and 12 located on the west side. Bob Eagen said it appears that certain areas of the City are being saturated by these
homes. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said there is a case law that could be used in connection with saturation, however, it was his
understanding that there would need to be multiple homes within a block or two. Christy Johnson said the state law is somewhat vague
on that issue. Bob Eagen asked if there was any City ordinance restricting this use and amount of individuals in this home. Mayor
Kenneth Klotz said state law would override such use. Bob Eagen wondered if there had been any problems at the Birch Street
residence. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said according to the 1997 West Side Action Plan there are 26 group homes located in the
City with 10 being located within the West Side Neighborhood Association area and 16 located elsewhere throughout the City.
Will Vandicarr, Mitchell Street, informed the Council that there is a group home located in his neighborhood and there had been no
negative impact.
Lynn Kelly said she works for Living Resources and also has a group home located in her neighborhood. She said there have been no
problems in her neighborhood from this home.
Kathleen Eddy, 109 Lake Avenue, said she was ashamed of the neighbors in the Michael Drive area. She said these disabled
individuals only want an opportunity to live a good life. She said these neighbors are not only arrogant but ignorant.
Marty Malan informed Council members that recently she sold a home that was located in a group home neighborhood and there was no
effect on property value because of that home. She said these individuals are generally the best kind of neighbor because they are kind,
courteous and loving.
Gary Seagull, Executive Director of Catholic Charities, said he does not work for Living Resources and is somewhat of a competitor.
He said he has much respect for Living Resources and their mission. He said there is collaboration among the involved agencies for
quality of services and resources. He said there are many good things going on at Living Resources and he was pleased to support this
proposal.
Maurice Satin said these individuals generally have a good deal of outside support through friends and family. He said they are
integrated into the neighborhood and took exception to the previous statement that there was concern that because these individuals might
work Ahow could they be integrated@. He pointed out that people leave their homes every day to go to work and generally are
integrated into their neighborhoods.
integrated into their neighborhoods.
Joshua Satin, individual who would be living at 40 Michael Drive, said he was very glad to be moving to Saratoga Springs. He said he
is friendly, outgoing and plans to be active in the community. He also pointed out that if he is not able to ride his bike to work, Living
Resources would provide a bus.
Suzie Ritzenberg said she has a son living at the Division Street group home. She said the City and its residents should welcome these
individuals into the community. She said she knew this was a caring community and hoped that those individuals supporting this home
would show their support. She said the community should welcome the opportunity to welcome all individuals.
Laurie McCarthy, 6 Lee Drive, said the supporters of this proposal were missing the point. She said the area residents simply want
more information. She said they have legitimate concerns one of which being that the staff members get only one week of training. She
said they were also concerned about property values. She disagreed that Living Resources maintains their properties as previously
stated.
Greg Nillson, 19 Michael Drive, said his home was located directly across the street from this group home. He said he felt bad that the
area neighbors were being accused of not liking disabled individuals. He informed Council members that he has two children with
disabilities. He said Michael Drive is a residential community and wondered how this commercial use could be allowed. He said he
was concerned that this would place another property off the tax rolls because of its tax exempt status. He said he was also concerned
about additional traffic.
Beth Scavone said she was concerned about maintenance of this property and the property value of her home. She said she was also
concerned about the way Living Resources runs their business and how it will affect her.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Kenneth Klotz closed the public hearing.
MAYOR=S OFFICE
Introduction of Student Mayor
Mayor Kenneth Klotz introduced Vicky Boone, Student Mayor, who had shadowed him on Monday.
Discussion B Living Resources B 40 Michael Drive Group Home (00-100)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had originally intended to bring this forward tonight for a vote, however, because of the neighbors concern
of wanting more information he felt it was not appropriate and, therefore, had promised the neighbors he would not bring it forward for a
vote tonight. He said it had not been required for the City to hold a public hearing, but he felt it was necessary for the neighbors to be
informed. He said he regretted that this issue had become so decisive. He said he had confidence in Living Resources and their
oversight of these homes and felt there would be no impact on property values with the placement of this home in this neighborhood. He
agreed it would be another parcel off of the property tax rolls, however, it would affect the roll minimally. He said this neighborhood is
zoned residential and the proposed use is also residential so there were no zoning issues.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the Council had four options: 1) approve; 2) object on the very specific ground of over concentration in the
neighborhood; 3) do nothing; or 4) suggest alternative sites. He said the Council could suggest alternative sites, however, it would be up
to Living Resources to review those sites and then make their final determination. He said he felt this was Amuch ado over nothing@.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he was pleased about some of the comments he had heard this evening. He said he felt this home
would not be a detriment to the community. He pointed out that neighbors do not get to pick their neighbors and generally know nothing
about their neighbors when moving to a new neighborhood. He said he was quite concerned about an unsigned letter sent to Pat Hamm,
existing property owner of 40 Michael Drive, in which some horrible comments were made about Pat Hamm, her family and her values.
He then read a small portion of that letter. He said he felt that letters and individuals such as these were a bigger threat to the community
than the individuals who will live in this home. Commissioner Bernard Mirling also pointed out that it is against the law to discriminate
against potential buyers of homes.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling then moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to approve the location of this group home
at 40 Michael Drive.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said there was no justification for the over saturation argument and further noted that this home would
likely be located at 40 Michael Drive with or without the Council=s approval. He said it made more sense to vote on this issue this
evening rather than to drag it out any longer.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he would support this motion, however, encouraged the neighbors to have more discussions with
Living Resources. Fred Erlich said he would be willing to discuss the neighbors= concerns. He asked that both Living Resources and
the nearby property owners be good neighbors.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked about the 40-day waiting period. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said there was some discrepancy on timing
but it was likely that the 40-day waiting period would end on May 8. He said he had given his word to the neighbors that he would not
bring this forward this evening for a vote and for that reason would not support the motion. He said he felt this proposal was
appropriate and again pointed out that it would happen with or without the Council=s approval, but he had made a commitment to the
neighbors. He agreed that delaying a vote might likely make the situation worse.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked exactly what was the motion. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said this group home was likely going
to locate at 40 Michael Drive with or without the Council=s approval and he felt that the Council should simply vote to approve the
location.
Commissioner Thomas Curley again asked if Living Resources would commit to meeting with the neighbors. Fred Erlich said yes.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he appreciated all of the comments expressed this evening but felt that locating these individuals in this
neighborhood was appropriate. He said generally these individuals are very polite, kind and courteous and said it would be wonderful
if the entire community could be that way. For those reasons, he said supported the motion.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked about maintenance of the parcel. Fred Erlich said they are like many non profit agencies in that
their funds are limited, however, they are seeking a grant for the Division Street home for siding. He said over the last three years they
have spent more than $40,000 on new sidewalks, kitchen, furnace and roof on some of their homes.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz again said he would not support this motion because he promised the neighbors he would not bring it forward for
a vote.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Mayor=s position was quite clear, however, he noted that the Mayor did not bring this issue
forward and he should simply vote his conscience.
Roll call vote: Commissioner Bernard Mirling: aye
Commissioner Michael Lenz: aye
Commissioner Thomas McTygue: aye
Commissioner Thomas Curley: aye
Mayor Kenneth Klotz nay
Motion carried.
Presentation B Skidmore Class on Affordable Housing
Kathleen Eddy, 109 Lake Avenue, Skidmore student, said affordable housing in Saratoga Springs is an important issue. She said
students from Skidmore College have evaluated and analyzed the data on this issue and found that the existing resources do not meet the
needs of this portion of the population. She said Skidmore students recently held a fundraiser with proceeds going to the Shelters of
Saratoga. She said they had distributed postcards concerning this issue noting that those cards should be returned to City Hall and
informed Council members that more than 200 cards were returned. She said there have been editorials in both The Saratogian and The
Times Union newspapers on this issue.
Stephanie Cramer, Skidmore Student, reviewed with Council members their recommendations to the City on this issue:
1) There should be collaboration between community social services agencies, consumers of social service and the City Council in
connection with the Comprehensive Plan Review.
2. There should be an active connection between the Community Development Office, volunteer resources at Skidmore College and the
Social Work Program at Skidmore College;
3) Increased involvement of low-income community members on the Community Development Citizens Advisory Committee;
4) Inclusion of low-income housing as a prority issue during the strategic planning process.
5) Retention of affordable housing facilities as a goal during west side gentrification.
6) Directly addressing the problem of inadequate low-income housing during the track season.
Both Kathleen Eddy and Stephanie Cramer pointed out that the community benefits as a whole from making this issue a priority.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz thanked them for their presentation.
Report B Comprehensive Plan Review Committee
Jeffrey Pfeil, Chair of the Comprehensive Plan Review Committee, said this committee has begun to review the goals of the 1999
Comprehensive Plan Committee. He said they will look at areas such as South of Broadway and East of the Northway which were not
studied in detail during the last review.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what was their time frame. Jeffrey Pfeil said they hoped to have a preliminary report to the Council
by the end of June and recommendations to follow shortly thereafter.
Report B Community Renewal Committee
Gene Corsale said this committee recently completed their mission statement which seeks to present a comprehensive approach to
improving properties located within the City of Saratoga Springs. He said their study will include the identification of properties in
need of improvements; assessment of the maintenance rehab; analysis of cost; and development and coordination of efforts to encourage
and insure property maintenance. He said input from City and State officials, neighborhood associations, property owners and residents
will be sought. He said goals of the program include elimination of blight; maintain and increase quality of life in the City; prevent loss
of tax revenues; mitigate adverse effects and improve public health and safety. Gene Corsale said they will continue to work with Brad
Birge, Tony Izzo and Kevin Veitch on these issues.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz thanked Gene Corsale for his presentation.
Discussion B Surplus
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said it appears there is a $4.2 million surplus. He said the state comptroller=s office recommends between 5 and
10 percent of the budget to be maintained in reserve. He said he would like to see the City maintain 7 percent ($1.5 million) which
would leave about $2.7 for the Council to deal with.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said there were several ways the City could deal with these funds: 1) pay off some long term debt; 2) place some
in reserve to keep taxes down; 3) invest in a capital project; and/or 4) fund additional operating expenses. He said he had been
compiling capital project requests and he would be reviewing those needs soon. He said, though, the Council needs to think long term.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said last May is presented a framework to the Council on the very same issues that Mayor Kenneth Klotz
just talked about (stabilizing taxes, debt reduction and maintain an adequate surplus). He reminded Council members that when he came
into office there was a substantial amount of short term debt which now had been reduced. He also reminded Council members that
because of the Connolly plan, there is a limit on borrowing and the City is nearly at that limit. He said he was glad to see that Mayor
Kenneth Klotz was on board with his proposal.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested that the City move ahead quickly with debt reduction. He suggested it be done as quickly as
the next Council meeting.
Commissioner Michael Lenz agreed there should be some debt reduction, however, the whole issue needed to be analyzed before
reducing the debt. He reminded Council members that even though it appears that there is $4.2 million there is not $4.2 million to spend.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz pointed out that in some cases the tax rate on the long term debt was very good and perhaps should not be paid
down.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he was not anxious to just spend this money. He pointed out that much of the surplus came from one
time revenues for the City.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he would like to see the City invest in its future. He suggested that a public process be considered
on ways to allocate this money.
Commissioner Michael Lenz reminded Council members that the City had received many one time revenues such as $1.1 million from
the sale of the City Center, $800,000 from the County, accelerated state aid payment, tax auction sale. He said there needs to be some
prudent financial management of these funds.
Resolution B Contract with Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux (00-101)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz reminded Council members that recently the Council approved a contract with the firm of Roemer, Wallens and
Mineaux under the same terms and conditions as last year. He said, though, that the firm is now requesting an increase in their fee. He
said it was now up to the Council to determine whether they wish to pay this higher cost or to search for another firm.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to sever the relationship between the City and Roemer,
Wallens and Mineaux and to look for a different firm to handle labor relations business. He said this was with the understanding that
there are some ongoing issues in which the City has engaged the services of Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux and there would be an
orderly and professional transition.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he had no problem with going with another firm with the same quality of services but he had some
reservations because he had much confidence with the staff of Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux. He said he would like more information
on the firm that the City is considering hiring. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he understood Commissioner Thomas Curley=s concern,
however, it was necessary to make a decision on the Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux contract very soon. Commissioner Thomas Curley
asked what was the fee currently being paid to Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux and what did they want. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said they
are currently paid approximately $6,700 per year and they were requesting $12,000 per year for retainer in addition to the hourly rate.
Commissioner Thomas Curley asked if the level of service between Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux and the proposed new firm would be
Commissioner Thomas Curley asked if the level of service between Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux and the proposed new firm would be
the same. Jeffrey Wait said yes.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked how the Roemer, Wallens and Mineaux would be paid for work currently being handled by that firm.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said an agreement would need to be reached for payment of those services.
Ayes all.
Easement B 63 Putnam Street
Mayor Kenneth Klotz removed this item from discussion at the request of the applicant.
Introduction of Student Mayor and Commissioners
Council members introduced the students as follows: Victoria Boone, Student Mayor; Amy Howard, Student Finance Commissioner;
Nicholas Lobosco, Student DPW Commissioner; John Phillips, Student Accounts Commissioner and Tom Peretti, Student DPS
Commissioner. The students said they enjoyed their day at City Hall and were quite impressed. They sound they found the Council
meeting to be very interesting. They also thanked the Elks Lodge for sponsoring this event.
Council members commended the Elks Lodge and Bob Lyndall for this program and they encouraged the students to remain active
participants in the community.
Census Update
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the City had a goal of a 74 percent return rate on the census forms, however, only 68 percent were returned.
He said it was necessary for the City to get a full and accurate count of its residents because of its effect on funding.
Discussion B Charter Review
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said it was his intention to appoint a charter commission to look into the existing City charter. He asked that
Council members submit a list of between 6 and 8 names from which he would choose between 9 and 15 people.
Vote on School Contract B Recreation Department (00-102)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the contract between the City and the school to
rent space for recreational activities at the rate of $25 per hour from September 1, 2000 and June 30, 2001. Ayes all.
Outstanding Vouchers B Conklin Law
Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney, said the firm of Maynard, O=Connor, Smith and Catalano had been hired to defend the City in the
Conklin vs. City lawsuit. He said there is still an outstanding invoice of $1,062.15.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Mayor Thomas McTygue seconded to authorize payment to the firm of Maynard, O=Connor, Smith and
Catalano in the amount of $1,062.15. Ayes all.
Council Meeting Time (00-103)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to change the meeting time of the Council from 7:30 p.m. to
7:00 p.m.
Commissioner Thomas Curley requested that consideration be given to rotating the Commissioner=s agendas so that his department was
not always last. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would consider that request.
Ayes all.
Edwards & Kelcey B Change Order
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the change order for Edwards & Kelcey in the
amount of $4,500 in connection with the SSTAR program. Ayes all.
Executive Session
Mayor Kenneth Klotz requested an executive session. Council members agreed.
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Approve of March 21 & April 4 meeting minutes
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the March 21 & April 4 City Council meeting
minutes. Ayes all.
Award of Bid -- Low Boy Trailer Rental
Upon the recommendation of DPW, Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the
bid for rental of a lowboy trailer to W. J. Morris Excavating and Versatile Office & Storage in the amount of $145 per move (they both
bid the same price). Ayes all.
Confirmation of Previous Approval by Memo for Property/Casualty Insurance (00-104)
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to ratify the previous approval by memo to award
the contract for Property/Casualty Insurance to Marshall and Sterling in the amount of $247,900.
Commissioner Thomas Curley objected to the way he received this information. He said he asked for more information on this issue and
he just received that information this evening. He said he was concerned how this new policy would affect his department in connection
with liability, deductibles, limitations, etc. He said he was concerned that there seemed to be less communication among the
departments.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said in the previous years this contract was simply passed with no discussion. He said the Accounts
Department has been very outgoing with information and has also welcomed input from other departments.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he had no problem with the City trying to save money, however, asked what the deductibles might be
and who would pay those deductibles. He said he simply wanted more accurate information.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said a lot of time was spent by his staff reviewing the proposals. He said the best company at the best
rate was selected and that information was distributed to Council members as quickly as possible.
Commissioner Thomas Curley asked specifically what were the savings to the City. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said this is a very
detailed and complex process. He said the City had very detailed specifications and Jack Perry reviewed the proposals in detail. He
said the overall cost had been reduced from $285,000 to $247,000. He pointed out that this new policy also has coverage for items of
value in the park.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he simply would like some input on the insurance issues and would like to know how it directly
affects his department. He said he was not questioning the price but rather was questioning the coverage.
Jack Perry said the law enforcement portion of this policy is as good or better than the previous policy. He said there is $1,000,000 per
occurrence coverage and $5,000,000 excess liability. He said there is a $5,000 deductible but no deductible on defense coverage. He
said the EMT coverage was $1,000,000 per occurrence and $5,000,000 excess liability with no deductible. He said there is no
deductible on the general liability. Jack Perry said the savings in premiums amounts to more than the deductibles.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said Commissioner Bernard Mirling and his staff did a good job on reviewing the proposals and selecting a firm.
He said he understood Commissioner Thomas Curley concerns but there was no intent to withhold any information from him.
Ayes all.
Reclassification B Senior Typist to Secretary to Deputy Commissioner of Accounts (00-105)
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to ratify the previous approval by memo for the
reclassification of the senior typist position (Gloria Battaglini) to Secretary to the Deputy Commissioner of Accounts Grade 12, Step 1
effective May 16, 2000. Ayes all.
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Payroll
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the following payrolls: April 21, 2000 B
$269,382.41 and April 28, 2000 B $283,745.25. Ayes all.
$269,382.41 and April 28, 2000 B $283,745.25. Ayes all.
Warrants
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded for the approval and payment of the 1MAY20 warrant
#2 through #27 as follows:
General Fund $121,329.36
City Center Authority 5,681.21
Water Fund 30,354.40
Sewer Fund 1,586.82
Capital Projects Fund 457.90
Special Assessment District 175.00
Trust Fund 1,600.00
Debt Service -0-
Community Development 2,304.36
TOTAL $ 163,489.05
and the MC200426 warrant #2 - #3 as follows:
General Fund $ 781.34
City Center Authority 208.94
Water Fund 310.64
Sewer Fund 697.53
Capital Projects Fund -0-
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 1,998.45
and the MC200421 warrant #2 as follows:
General Fund $ -0-
City Center Authority -0-
Water Fund -0-
Sewer Fund -0-
Capital Projects Fund -0-
Special Assessment District 1,550.00
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service 22,382.42
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 23,932.42
Ayes all.
Budget Amendments
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the budget amendments as presented
(Attachment A). Ayes all.
Budget Transfers
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the budget transfers as presented
(Attachment B). Ayes all.
2000 Revenue Report
Commissioner Michael Lenz said recently Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked him to provided revenue information in conjunction with the
monthly financial report. He said some of the large revenue items such as sales, utility and hotel occupancy taxes are slightly higher than
last year at this time. Mayor Kenneth Klotz thanked Commissioner Michael Lenz for this information.
Health Insurance Report
Harry MacAvoy, chair of the health insurance review committee, said he and members of the committee (Norm Smith, Christine Gillmett
and Linda Curley) had spent a lot of time working on this report. He said comparisons were made between the City and both private and
and Linda Curley) had spent a lot of time working on this report. He said comparisons were made between the City and both private and
public entities. He said this was not an easy survey because it is simply difficult to compare apples to apples. He pointed out to
Council members that health insurance costs are now approximately 14 percent of the gross national domestic product.
Harry MacAvoy said their report includes three items to explore in connection with reducing health insurance costs: 1) negotiate with
new hires to have them pay a share of health insurance costs; 2) expand the buyout program; and 3) explore a public/private formation to
help decrease the cost to the City. He said generally speaking, in the private sector health insurance is considered as part of the
compensation package.
Harry MacAvoy said it was difficult for the City because of its limited control over health insurance costs. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue suggested that the City review its policy on offering full retirement benefits after ten years of service. He said he doubted that
there were other municipalities offering this benefit.
Harry MacAvoy said that particular item was not part of the survey. However, he said similar packages are offered but the details vary
widely. He said that particular item needs to be addressed by the Council and not the committee. He informed Council members that
there is a bill appearing before the legislature on prohibition of the reduction of benefits to retirees if being offered to regular
employees.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said the charge to the committee was to gather information and bring forth a report to the Council. He said
it is up to the Council to make a decision, based on that and other information.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling thanked the committee for this report. He said this information will be very useful.
Charter Review
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he had a difference of opinion on the formation of a charter review committee and the review of the
charter. He said through a referendum, the committee would be mandated to review this issue. He said there is a short window of time
in order to have this be a referendum and he felt that was the way to go.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded that the City Council direct the City Attorney to draft a
local law to place on the November 17 ballot as follows: AShall there be a commission to draft a new or revised City Charter@. This
local law would also provide that the commission consist of 15 members with each Commissioner appointing 3.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said there has already been at least four attempts to review and modify the charter and they have failed each
time. He said if there was a mandate from the residents perhaps it may not be defeated the next time. Commissioner Michael Lenz said
he would also like to see equal representation on this committee.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said it was the Council=s job to make the determination on whether the charter should be reviewed.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said this is a cumbersome process and it could all be for nothing if the residents do not want change.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said this is a critical issue. He said Mayor Kenneth Klotz proposes to get on with this review now
rather than waiting until November. He said the public should be informed, but the City should look at this issue now rather than waiting
until November.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said Barbara Lombardo, managing editor, The Saratogian, was the driving force behind this issue. He
said some changes were necessary and this is a good opportunity for the City.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said it seemed rather simple to him. He said the Council should ask the public.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue disagreed saying it was up to the Council.
Roll call vote: Commissioner Bernard Mirling nay
Commissioner Michael Lenz aye
Commissioner Thomas McTygue nay
Commissioner Thomas Curley aye
Mayor Kenneth Klotz nay
Motion denied.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked if the names submitted to the Mayor for appointment to the committee would actually be appointed or
would the Mayor only Aconsider@ those appointments. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked for six to eight names which would be put into a
pool and appointments would then be made from that pool. Commissioner Michael Lenz respectfully requested that all of the Council
members have equal representation on this committee. He asked that Commissioners be allowed an equal number of appointees to the
committee.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Ice Rink Capital Account (00-106)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said in 1997 the Council established a capital revenue fund for the Weibel Avenue and Vernon Ice
Rinks for capital improvements based on each year=s surplus. He said since there is a large surplus this year, he would like to see that
amount increased.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded that the Assistant City Attorney prepare a new
resolution increasing the amount to be set aside from $10,000 to $25,000 for 1999 and 2000. Ayes all.
Ice Rink Renewal Leases (00-107)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the summer ice rink leases under the
same terms and conditions. Ayes all.
Waive of Bid B Winchip Overhead Door Company
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to waive the bid to Winchip Overhead Door in
the amount of $3,517.00 for a new garage door. Ayes all.
West Side Drainage (00-108)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would like to draw up some specs for the Washington Street B Phase 2 drainage. He said this
new drainage would run from Pleasant Street to Walnut Street. He said the Engineering Department had been asked to draw up a cost
estimate and construction schedule. He said this construction would involve a 42-inch storm drainage pipe and the maximum cost of this
project would be approximately $200,000. He said if approved this evening, there could be a bid opening of June 15, an award of bid
on June 20 and the project could start in mid-July.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if this would improve drainage at the West Side Recreation Field. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said
yes.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to proceed with the advertisement of the bid.
Ayes all.
Casino B Chairs
Commissioner Thomas McTygue requested a $30,000 Aloan@ from the City to be used to replace the chairs at the Casino. He said he
was planning to purchase 300 chairs for a total amount of $20,912 plus shipping. He said these chairs will be rented out to functions at
the Casino so the $30,000 would be recouped. He said this money would go back into the general fund. He said he was also proposing
to purchase dishes that would also be rented with the revenues being returned the City.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if the old chairs would be retained. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said yes.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said there was no money in the budget to purchase these items. He suggested it be taken from a line item
from within the DPW budget. Commissioner Thomas McTygue agreed that the funding for these items would come from a line item
within the DPW budget, however, revenues from the rental of these items would be returned to his budget for capital improvement items
at the Casino. He said he anticipated that approximately $25,000 per year could be generated by these rentals.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to authorize DPW to establish a line item in the amount of
$30,000 (to be used for chairs and dishes), the funding for this line item to come from within the DPW budget, and a special account be
established for the revenues received on these rentals for the years 2000 and 2001 to be used for capital improvements to the Casino.
Ayes all.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to waive the bid to Meadows Office Furniture for
the MTS 590 stack chairs and hand trucks in the amount of $20,912. Ayes all.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Waive of Bid B KME Equipment B Repair 1992 Fire Engine
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to waive the bid to KME Equipment for emergency purchase
of parts for the 1992 KME fire engine in an amount not to exceed $1,265.00. Ayes all.
Waive of Bid B Service Contract Renewal B Frontier Network Systems
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to waive the bid to Frontier Network Systems in
the amount of $2,512.00 for the renewal of the maintenance agreement for the telephone system in the police and fire departments. This
agreement is in effect from March 26, 2000 to March 25, 2001. Ayes all.
Fire Department Waive of Bid List
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to add KME to the Bid Waive List for DPS. Ayes all.
Executive Session
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to adjourn to executive session at 11:20 p.m. Ayes all.
Council members returned at 11:30 p.m.
Article 78 B Charles Cefalu (00-109)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded to authorize the hiring of Tony Izzo to represent the City in
connection with the Article 78 case filed by Charles Cefalu, 154 Lake Avenue. Ayes all.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to adjourn the meeting at 11:30 p.m. Ayes all.
There being no further business, Mayor Kenneth Klotz adjourned the meeting at 11:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Approved: Clerk
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