City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 6, 2001
Minutes
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS, NEW YORK
TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2001
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
7:00 P.M.
P R E S E N T: Thomas Curley, Commissioner, Public Safety
Kenneth Klotz, Mayor
Michael Lenz, Commissioner, Finance
Thomas McTygue, Commissioner, Public Works
Bernard Mirling, Commissioner, Accounts
A L S O P R E S E N T : Phillip Klein, Board of Supervisors Representative
Anthony Scirocco, Board of Supervisors Representative
STAFF PRESENT: Christine Gillmett-Brown, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Carol Kennedy, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
Robert King, Deputy Commissioner, Public Safety
William McTygue, Deputy Commissioner, Public Works
Jeffrey Wait, City Attorney
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Sally Hart Brown, Open Space Project representative, commended the Council for supporting the
preservation and quality of life in Saratoga Springs. She said the Open Space Project plans to do
a survey within the next 60 days, which will be funded by business and community groups, on open
space in this community. She encouraged the Council to undertake a fiscal study on environmental
protection in the City. She again thanked the Council for their continued support of open space.
MAYOR=S OFFICE
Annual Report --City Historian Martha Stonequist
Martha Stonequist thanked Council members for allowing her to speak before the Council. She said
she received more than 700 inquiries last year with approximately 40 percent of those calls coming
in at home. She said one of her duties is also to act as the City’s archivist. She said in 1974 Bea
Sweeney rescued many documents and other materials and started the archive program. She said
she maintains things such as minutes, maps, police blotters, etc., and all are stored in an
environmentally protected vault. She said another of her duties is to protect, collect and
disseminate information on the City to interested parties. She also does several talks throughout
the year and some bus tours. She said a good amount of her work is fact checking. She said she
recently coauthored a book about Saratoga Springs with Tim Holmes.
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Martha Stonequist said she has been in this position for more than 15 years and she still
thoroughly enjoys her work. She said she receives a tremendous amount of support from City Hall
personnel and again thanked the Council for giving her this opportunity to update them on her
work.
Appointments (01-031)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz announced the appointments of Sonya Taub and Kathy Smith to the Historic
Preservation Advisory Committee and Eric Weller to the Housing Authority.
Sexual Harassment Policy
Brad Birge distributed the existing and proposed discrimination/harassment policies for the City.
He said the existing policy was adopted in 1993 and it was now time to update that policy. He said
some of the modifications included the provision of including a woman officer, to bring the existing
policy up to current federal regulations and case law and to better define and educated on what
constitutes sexual harassment. He said this policy also establishes procedures for filing a
complaint along with a time table.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked Council members to review the draft and get back to him with any
modifications. He said he would return to the Council at a later date for an approval.
Franklin Square Associates Property Transfer (01-032)
Jeff Wait, City Attorney, said the Real Estate Committee has recommended the transfer of a small
parcel of City owned land to Franklin Square Associates. He said the parcel of land is
approximately 800 square feet and is needed by the developer in order to begin construction on
the next building. He said the committee has recommended that the minimum price be set at
$2,500. He said Franklin Square Associates was also willing to commit and additional $25,000
for improvements to a small city park which is adjacent to this parcel. He said Franklin Square
Associates is willing to work with DPW on those improvements. Jeff Wait said if the Council
approves this proposal this evening, an agreement would be drawn up.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to approve the transfer
of this parcel to Franklin Square Associates with the details as noted above and that an
agreement is to be drawn up.
Michael Lenz asked if this was the same parcel that the Council had discussed last year. Jeff Wait
said this is a different parcel. He said though that Franklin Square Associates recently purchased
the other parcel from the City for $25,000.
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Ayes all.
National Hunger Awareness Month
Mayor Kenneth Klotz announced National Hunger Awareness Month and noted that an event would
be held at the EOC soup kitchen on March 16 at noon with a dedication ceremony to follow the
luncheon.
ACCOUNTS
Award of Bid -- Grave Marking Flags
Upon the recommendation of the Mayor’s Office, Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and
Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the bid for grave marking flags to Metro Flag
in the amount of $1,395.36 (lowest bidder meeting specifications). Ayes all.
Award of Bid B Forestry Hydraulic Device
Upon the recommendation of the Department of Public Works, Commissioner Bernard Mirling
moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the bid for the forestry hydraulic
device to Altec Industries in the amount of $51,790 (only bidder). Ayes all.
Award of Bid B Precast Manholes, etc.
Upon the recommendation of the Department of Public Works, Commissioner Bernard Mirling
moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the bid for precast manholes, catch
basins, etc., to Pallette Stone Corporation in the amount of $23,252.50 (low bidder). Ayes all.
Award of Bid B Water & Sewer Pipe Fittings, etc.
Upon the recommendation of the Department of Public Works, Commissioner Bernard Mirling
moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the bid for water and sewer pipe
fittings, etc., to Vellano Brothers for various prices (lowest bidder meeting specifications). Ayes
all.
Award of Bid B Port-A-Johns
Upon the recommendation of the Department of Public Works, Commissioner Bernard Mirling
moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to award the bid for port-a-johns to Stone
Industries for $14.50 (low bidder). Ayes all.
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Saratoga Harness Rezoning -- Set Public Hearing
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said the Council has received from the Planning Board a favorable
advisory opinion on the petition submitted by Saratoga Harness, Inc., to amend the use schedule
in the Institutional Horse Track Related District. He requested that a public hearing be set on the
proposed rezoning text amendment for Tuesday, April 17, at 6:50 p.m. Council members agreed.
Open Space Referendum B Discussion (01-033)
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he had spoken to Michael Lenz today on this issue and there
were still many details that he was trying to understand. He said he was pleased to see that both
Commissioners Michael Lenz and Thomas Curley believe that this is an important issue but he had
some concerns with their proposal. He said according to comptroller’s opinion and home rule
legislation, the City cannot hold a referendum on this type of proposal.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked what it might cost to hold a referendum. Commissioner Michael Lenz
said that he did speak to Commissioner Bernard Mirling today as well as Alayne Ball Chinian, Open
Space Project representative, on this matter. He said he explained his rationale for wanting to
move in the direction of possibly holding a referendum in November or sooner. He said he believed
the taxpayers should be asked whether they want to set aside funds for the purpose of open
space. He said he had listed this on his agenda this evening in hopes of having some discussion
with Council members and perhaps with Open Space representatives. He said he would prefer to
let the public decide. Commissioner Michael Lenz said this is a beginning point and much more
dialogue is needed.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he wanted to clarify that there is no statutory authority to
hold a referendum on this item. He said Finance Law would also preclude the City from doing so.
He said the City can only deal with bonding through Council action and not a referendum. He said
he was glad to see that Open Space would conduct a survey. He said the cost of doing a
referendum is about $17,000. He said he believed that an economic analysis needed to be done
first.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said there were many ways to protect open space without spending
money and then distributed three handouts on the subject (Urban Policy a Republican Perspective;
Urban Open Space: Color it Valuable and Planners’ Casebook). He said the only way to be sure of
the cost is through a professional fiscal analysis and furthermore much valuable information could
be obtained from such an analysis. He said he believed the cost of hiring a professional fiscal
analysis would be between $15,000 and $20,000.
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Commissioner Bernard Mirling then moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to
allocate $18,000 for a professional fiscal analysis. He said he would bring the details back to the
next meeting. Commissioner Michael Lenz said he was concerned about allocating money without
knowing the details, i.e., who would do such an analysis.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to amend the
motion that the $18,000 would simply be set aside for this use.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said there seemed to be agreement that more information was needed,
which was his objective. He asked if the City Attorney had reviewed precedent on establishing
referendums. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said it was his research and not the City Attorney’s
on the referendum issue. Commissioner Thomas Curley said he would like clarification by the City
Attorney.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he was not prepared this evening to approve the allocation of
funds without all of the details. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he wanted a commitment from
the Council that a fiscal analysis should be done. Commissioner Thomas Curley said issue needs
to be addressed, however, he wanted more information before the Council expended funds.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he hoped there could be agreement among Council members on
how to move forward with this issue and also suggested that perhaps the Council should meet with
the Open Space representatives for detailed discussions. He said he would prefer to do a
referendum, however, if that was not possible he understood. He said he was not opposed to a
fiscal study, but did not believe that we should move ahead this evening on this issue. He asked if
there was any harm in waiting until there was more information.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this was only a conceptual approval this evening. Commissioner Thomas
Curley suggested a special Council meeting be set for discussions between Council members and
Open Space representatives. He said perhaps a small open forum would be appropriate.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said he was somewhat concerned about holding a community forum.
He said there were many ways to fund this type of project through the City government, federal
government, different organizations, etc., but the first step was to find out the economic impact.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said those were good reasons to hold a special meeting.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said there seemed to be agreement that we should move forward, but
said the issue of how the data was gathered needed to be worked out. He said involving all
interested parties in the discussions seemed to be the answer.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was concerned about spending $17,000 on a referendum.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue applauded Commissioner Bernard Mirling for bringing this issue
to the forefront and then called the question.
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Ayes: three; Nays: two (Commissioners Thomas Curley and Michael Lenz). Motion carried.
FINANCE OFFICE
Payroll
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the following
payrolls: February 23, 2001B$320,521.18 and March 2, 2001 B $295,573.16. Ayes all.
Warrants
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded for the approval and
payment of the 1MAR01 #2 through #28 as follows:
General Fund $ 263,529.78
City Center Authority 3,660.76
Water Fund 11,560.48
Sewer Fund 4,687.53
Capital Projects Fund 27,933.97
Special Assessment District 175.00
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service 3,993.00
Community Development 70.79
TOTAL $ 315,611.31
and MC010228 #2 through #7 as follows:
General Fund $ 28,081.10
City Center Authority 27,073.94
Water Fund 3,872.20
Sewer Fund 1,144.23
Capital Projects Fund 800,00
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 60,971.47
Ayes all.
Budget Transfers
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Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the budget
transfers as presented (Attachment A). Ayes all.
Budget Amendments
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to approve the
budget amendments as presented (Attachment B). Ayes all.
Open Space Referendum B Discussion
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he had a good discussion with both Alayne Ball Chinian and Sally
Hart Brown of the Open Space Project. He said there are now enough people interested in this
issue that it will move forward. He said the only question was how it would move. He said he
remained optimistic that this would be a bipartisan effort. He said he did not necessarily disagree
that the funds should be appropriated at this time, but believed that a special meeting should be
held on how this should be implemented, who will make the decisions, who will manage the parcels,
etc.
Alayne Ball Chinian, from the audience, said she would set up a meeting between the Council and
Open Space.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would like to clarify the misperception that there is a “no growth”
position. He said he would like to see smart growth that is right for the City. He said there might
be some space throughout the City that should be permanently off the table for development.
Commissioner Michael Lenz: agreed there was a misperception that open space meant opposition
to development. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said residents are beginning to recognize the need
for open space. He pointed out that the City has some exceptional expertise in this area and he
hoped to move this proposal forward.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Snow Storm
Commissioner Thomas McTygue thanked all of the DPW employees for their tireless efforts during
the recent snow storm. He said employees worked within him on changing their scheduled hours
and it seemed to go well. He also thanked the secretaries in his department for taking all of the
telephone calls from residents who were concerned about plowing. He said there is a lot of stress
involved in plowing. He said recently a City truck had an accident with a passenger vehicle where the
passengers were injured. He said it is his understanding that the child is progressing well and he
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wished him continued improvement. He then asked that, if possible, residents shovel out fire
hydrants.
Waive of Bid B Fort Miller Company
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to ratify the recent
approval by memo for the pump replacement at the Grande Industrial Park with Fort Miller in the
amount of $16,525. Ayes all.
Waive of Bid B Vellano Bros., Inc.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to ratify the
recent approval by memo for a new electronic leak detector with Vellano Bros., Inc. in the amount
of $2,450.00. He said the money was within his budget. Ayes all.
Waive of Bid -- Design & Son
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to ratify the recent
approval by memo for roof work at 85 Beekman Street with Design & Son in the amount of $3,053.
He said the money was within his budget. Ayes all.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Automated Ticket Issuance System B Informational
Commissioner Thomas Curley said in partnership with the Downtown Special Assessment District,
a new automated ticket issuance system will be used. He said this new system will allow the
parking enforcement office to know whether there are prior violations on a vehicle, issue the ticket
at that time, and down Scoff Law data. He said there wold be a cost savings as well as improved
efficiency. He said they need to establish the zones in the City on where these types of tickets can
be issued. He said once these are purchased, a demonstration could be provided for the Council.
Waive of Bid B K-9 Equipment for New Vehicle
Lt. Mike Biss said the police department recently purchased a Chevrolet Impala vehicle for the K-9
unit. He said they now need to equip that vehicle and the only vendor able to provide the necessary
equipment in Ray Allen. He said that vendor can supply the equipment at a cost of $2,130. He said
this equipment will last the lifetime of the vehicle.
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Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to approve the
waive of bid with Ray Allen in the amount of $2,130 for equipment for the K-9 unit vehicle. Ayes all.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 8:00 p.m. Ayes all. There being no further business, Mayor Kenneth Klotz adjourned
the meeting at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Clerk
Approved:
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