City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 18, 2001
Minutes
City Council Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, September 18, 2001
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2001
Present: Commissioner of Finance, Michael Lenz
Commissioner of Public Works, Thomas McTygue
Commissioner of Public Safety, Thomas Curley
Commissioner of Accounts, Bernard Mirling
Absent: Mayor Kenneth Klotz
Staff Present: City Attorney Jeffrey Wait
Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown
Deputy Commissioner Bruce Brown
Deputy Commissioner Robert King
Deputy Commissioner Carol Kennedy
Also Present: Supervisor Phil Klein
Supervisor Anthony Scirocco
Call To Order: Commissioner Michael Lenz called the meeting to order on behalf of
Mayor Klotz at 7 pm.
MAYOR’S DEPARTMENT
Messages from the Mayor
Commissioner Lenz said the Mayor is recovering. Commissioner Lenz read a message
from the Mayor that said he has been hospitalized since September 9 and hoped to be in
full swing in the near future. Mayor Klotz expressed his heartfelt gratitude for the
support and concern he and his wife Karen have received from the community. He
thanked his staff and his colleagues on the City Council for ensuring that the functions of
his office continue to be performed smoothly and efficiently. In his message, the Mayor
also thanked everyone who helped organize and who participated in the Sunday evening
service and vigil on behalf of the victims of the September 11 terrorist attacks. He said
that participants and organizers of that service made he and his wife proud to be counted
as Saratogians.
Commissioner Lenz said on behalf of the entire City Council he wishes Mayor Klotz a
speedy recovery and to know that we are all thinking of him as he progresses with his
recovery.
Resolutions: Spring Run Trail
Earth Tech Agreement:
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Commissioner Lenz said that during the past year the Spring Run Trail Committee,
consisting of Alane Ball, Nancy Lester, Pam Polacsek, Jeff Wait, Mike Welti, Bill
McTygue, Geoff Bornemann and Paul Male have been meeting to select a consultant to
assist the City in designing the trail that will run from Congress Park to the Northway.
He said the new section of the trail will follow the old railroad bed that is located near the
old Excelsior Rink site and runs along the right-of-way to the Northway.
He said that following a lengthy process, which followed the New York State Department
of Transportation guidelines for consultant selection, the committee is recommending
that the City hire Earth Tech, of 12 Metro Park Road, Albany, New York as the
consultant for the project. The fee according to the proposal dated August 2001, is
$273,845. He said this fee covers all design work for the trail including survey; data
collection & analysis; preliminary design; environmental; right of way; detailed design;
and advertising, bid opening and award. He said the fee for the engineering services will
be paid from a 50% matching grant ($358,000) from the CDTC/NYSDOT.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded
to authorize the Mayor to sign the Consulting Agreement and Authorization to
proceed with Earth Tech in the amount of $273,845.
Commissioner Lenz clarified with Paul Male that it is a 50% matching grant of $358,000
from CDTC and NY State DOT and also the City will be contributing the balance of
358,000. Paul Male said it was a combination of the Excelsior Rink closing and other
cash and donations from the Niagara Mohawk Corporation. Commissioner Lenz said
that the City Council is not approving any more than $273,845. He said that the City is
not dealing with any overruns at this point. Paul Male said that this project has to
immediately follow the clean up in order to stay in compliance with the EPA. Ayes all.
NYSDOT Resolution and Agreement
Commissioner Lenz said that this is the second part of the contractual agreements that
must be completed prior to starting work on the Spring Run Trail. He said this agreement
is the standard Master Federal/Local Aid Agreement between the City and the New York
State DOT which will allow the City to receive the grant funding for the Spring Run
Trail. He said that the resolution for this project must be approved exactly as worded on
the attached resolution. Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner
Bernard Mirling seconded to authorize the Mayor to sign the Master Federal/Local
Aid Agreement as per the attached resolution. Ayes all
Historic Preservation Plan
Extension of the contract:
Commissioner Lenz said that for the last six months the Mayor has had a committee
preparing a new Comprehensive Historic Preservation Plan. He said the final version of
the plan is expected to be presented to the City Council next month. He explained that
funding for this effort is coming from a grant from the New York State Office of Parks,
Recreation and Historic Preservation. He said that the State has requested that the
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expiration date of this contract for this grant be extended from August 31, 2001 to
September 30, 2001. Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner
Bernard Mirling seconded to authorize the Mayor to sign the contract extension for
the Historic Preservation Plan grant from the NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and
Historic Preservation. Ayes all
Grant for Printing the Plan
Commissioner Lenz said that the State has indicated that there is some extra grant
funding available that could be used to print the final Historic Preservation Plan. He said
that the State is interested in doing this because this document is apparently the first local
comprehensive historic preservation plan prepared in New York State. He said the
committee recommends that the City Council submit a supplemental grant application in
an amount not to exceed $2,700 to print 250 copies of the report. He explained that any
required local match for this grant would be contributed by in-kind staff services.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded
to authorize the Mayor to submit a grant application in the amount not to exceed
$2,700.00 for the printing of the Historic Preservation Plan document. Ayes all.
Sister City Correspondence
Commissioner Lenz said that there are two correspondences from Chekhov, Russia, the
sister City to Saratoga Springs. He said one of them was read at the memorial service
held in City Hall on Friday September 14. The first letter he read is from the Mayor of
Chekhov and was written to Mayor Klotz on September 12.
Dear Kenneth Klotz,
On 11th September, the most monstrous set of terrorism in the
World history was committed against the United States of America.
Like all our people, I am deeply shocked by the scale of this tragedy.
There is neither excuse nor pardon for the slayers of the peaceful citizens
of America.
Today, Russia that had experienced the horrors of World War II and of
Chechen War, as well as all the peoples of our planet grieves over the
disaster that the peaceful citizens of America have suffered.
We sympathize with your people and offer a helping hand to back up
at your hour of need.
My sincere condolences to you and your people.
Mayor Nedoseka
Commissioner Lenz said that the letter from the Mayor was faxed to the City. He said the
implications of that event are worldwide. The next letter is from some school children at
School #3 in Checkhov, Russia and was e-mailed to the City of Saratoga Springs and
written to the American children:
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Dear American Children,
We are very, very unhappy because of the tragedy which happened to
America on September 11th .An all our class feel grief and mourning,
that’s why in our school today was a black day. Our teachers began
this day from the minute of silence, because this tragedy isn’t only of
America, it is of all the world, because this bad terroristic acts may
happen to everybody one day. We don’t know how to help you, but
maybe our moral support will ease your pain.
Bye, 7-b class, school #3, Checkhov, Russia
Commissioner Lenz said that this tragedy is not specific to our country, it is something
that the entire world is aware of and feeling. He said that we all get the sense that we are
not safe and everyone wants to reach out and help in some way.
Hattie’s Restaurant: Liquor License
Commissioner Lenz said that a memo from Mayor Klotz was received regarding the
liquor license of Hattie’s Restaurant It said that the Hattie’s Restaurant has been sold
recently and the new owner, Jasper Alexander, has applied for a New York State Liquor
License. The memo said that because there are three establishments with liquor licenses
within 500 feet of Hattie’s Restaurant, the City has a right to appear at the application
hearing and contest the issuance of this new license before the State Liquor Authority.
This process would the delay the Authority’s review of the application for at least thirty
days. He said that the process could be expedited if the City Council agrees to waive its
right to contest the issuance of the license. Accordingly, Mayor Klotz has placed this
matter on his agenda to have Commissioner Lenz present a motion stating that the City
will not appear at the application hearing to contest the issuance of the new liquor license.
Commissioner Lenz said that this is a standard process.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
authorize the Mayor to advise the New York State Liquor Authority that the City Council
will not appear before the board to contest the issuance of the liquor license of the new
owner of Hattie’s Restaurant.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said that he would like to include a contingency within the
motion that the Police Department be contacted to see if there are any reasons that may
negate the license. Therefore, Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner
Thomas Curley seconded to authorize the Mayor to advise the New York State
Liquor Authority that the City Council will not appear before the board to contest
the issuance of the liquor license of the new owner of Hattie’s Restaurant contingent
upon indication from the Saratoga Springs Police Department that there are no
reasons to negate the license. Ayes all
Reminder: Capital Budget Requests
Commissioner Lenz said that the Mayor circulated a memo on August 27, 2001
requesting the 2002 capital budget requests and the five-year plan for 2003 to 2007 by
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October 1, 2001. Commissioner Lenz said that if these could be brought to the Mayor’s
Office by then, he would appreciate it.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
EMS Task Force
Commissioner Lenz said that Commissioner Curley requested that this item be moved up
on the agenda for the convenience of the members of the task force. Commissioner
Curley said that earlier this year he commissioned an eleven member task force to study
Emergency Medical Services within the City of Saratoga Springs. He said the report that
reflects the growth of the City and the needs of the community for the future. He said
that many of the members of the committee are present tonight but he called upon Dr.
Timothy Brooks, the Director of Emergency Room Physicians at Saratoga Hospital and
the Saratoga Springs Fire Department’s Medical Advisor to give a brief overview of what
the committee did do and what was accomplished.
Dr. Brooks said that this was a multi-faceted task force made up of representatives from
the City’s Fire and Police Department, members of the Emergency Medical Systems,
concerned citizens and City Hall staff. He said that the task put before them was to
review the EMS needs, to discuss and define relevant agency capabilities and to
recommend needs for the future. He said that these issues were considered in light of the
explosive growth of the City, in an aging population with increasing medical demands,
and changes in medical technology and delivery systems. He said that the task force
reviewed the findings of the 1992 EMS Planning Commission. And updated itself on
current conditions, concerns and where the task force thought the City should be going.
After considerable discussion and debate, the EMS Task Force makes the following five
recommendations:
1) Develop a new Department of Public Safety facility designed and located to
minimize response time and integrate services of Fire, EMS and potentially
Police.
2) Integration of Fire and Emergency Medical Systems to increase the depth and
breadth of EMS services available to the City while eliminating redundancy
that presently exists.
3) Centralization of Dispatching of all Public Safety Departments. Dispatching is
the access point and the crux of Emergency Medical Systems delivery and
requires centralization and government under one entity, which is presently
divided.
4) Emergency Hospital transfers. He said that Saratoga Hospital is directly
involved in Public Health, delivery and the needs for emergency transfers to
Urgent Care Centers are steadily increasing. Establishing a partnership
between the City and hospitals to care for the citizens is both prudent and in
the public’s best interests.
5) Educating the population so that Public Safety becomes personal. He said
that the committee recognizes that there is always some irreducible delay
between the onset of an emergency and the arrival of Public Safety
professionals that provides an opportunity to enlist the public into the Public
Safety system and to be involved in Safety and Health issues.
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He said that the committee is issuing a more detailed description of these five
recommendations. Commissioner Curley said that the committee included Kevin
Roberts, Clark Hayward of the Saratoga Medical Services Agency; Dr. Vincent Verdile;
Dr. Paul O’Kosky, the City’s Health Officer; Dr. Timothy Brooks; John Kirkpatrick and
Peter Shaw of the Saratoga Springs Fire Department; Linda Rush Curley; Erin Dreyer;
Sergeant Dan Noeker; and Deputy Commissioner Bob King was acting chairman of the
committee. He said it was a very diverse group and he thanked them for their hard work.
Commissioner Curley said that and he sent a letter to the Saratoga Emergency Medical
Services Agency asking them if they could discuss some of the things that are in the
report and to discuss ways that they could enhance their abilities to provide services
jointly. Both the SEMS and the SSFD have a lot to offer the community, and this is an
opportunity to make sure that the City is getting as much of a chance to provide these
services as possible. He said this is a very complementary relationship to look forward
to, and if we use our resources and technical skills and backgrounds and abilities the City
can reach new heights in its relationships with these agencies.
He said that there are other things in the report that will require some strategies and some
planning for the future. He said that they are looking at some type of a facility that will
provide the ability to increase the servicing time and certainly increase the services. He
said that the bottom line is to sit down and develop the strategies and an approach in
order to get as much efficiency and provide as much services as possible because it is a
concern that has been brought to his attention by residents on the east side of town and it
is the job of the Department of Public Safety to provide these services. He said thank you
to the committee members for their hard work.
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Approval of the August 7 and September 4 City Council Minutes
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded
to approve the minutes of the August 7, 2001 and the September 4, 2001 City
Council meetings. Ayes all
Award of Bids: City Center
Contract 2002 Elevator Maintenance
Contract 2002 Floor Maintenance Products
Contract 2001-02 Seasonal Snow Plowing and Sanding Services
RFP Exterior Door Placeme nt
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded
to award the 2002 Elevator Maintenance Contract to Millar Elevator of Latham for
the annual fee of $1029, the lowest bidder meeting specifications . Ayes all
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue
seconded to award the 2002 Floor Maintenance Products contract to Ecolab, Inc. of
St. Paul MN for Neutral Cleaner at $216 per 55 gallons and to Swish Maintenance
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Ltd. Of Marcy NY for floor finish at $372 per 55 gallons and floor stripper at $265
per 55 gallons, the lowest acceptable respondents for these products. Ayes all
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded
to award the 2001/2002 Seasonal Snowplowing and Sanding Services to Peter J.
Gailor Landscaping & Excavating of Saratoga Springs for prices as listed in the bid,
the lowest respondent meeting specifications. Ayes all
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue
seconded to award the RFP for Stage Doors replacement to Allerdice Commercial
Doors at 120 Excelsior Avenue in the amount of $3,708, the lowest respondent
meeting specifications. Ayes all
Discussion: Lake Lonely
Commissioner Mirling said that at the last meeting he scheduled a public hearing to
discuss an ordinance to amend Chapter 219 of the City Charter, Vessels and Waters. He
explained that the intention of the ordinance was to restrict personal watercraft on Lake
Lonely. He said that he brought this issue to the table at the request of some Lake Lonely
residents. He said that the members of the Lake Lonely Association have questioned the
need for such an ordinance, so he met with representatives of the residents who requested
the ordinance and with members of the Lake Lonely Association who opposed the
ordinance. He said that ultimately the two factions agreed and requested that he
withdraw the ordinance and cancel the public hearing. Commissioner Mirling said that
typically at a public hearing folks have an opportunity to speak for or against an issue,
but in this case, individuals came forward early, and ended up withdrawing the request
for an ordinance, so the public hearing is cancelled.
Easement: Levinsky
Commissioner Mirling said he had a request for approval of an easement agreement from
Bruce Levinsky of Merlin Development Company concerning 63 Phila Street for the
purpose of constructing a pedestrian walk way over City lands, over to a parking lot. He
called upon Assistant City Attorney Tony Izzo to explain:
He said that this type of easement is somewhat different from the usual request. He said
that usually easements involve a situation where an individual does a survey and
discovers a slight encroachment onto City property, so they come before the Council and
request an easement to allow that encroachment to continue to exist.. He explained that
this property owner is asking for essentially that a pedestrian walkway be constructed.
Tony Izzo said that he distributed copies of the draft easement agreement to the City
Council members and a diagram is attached. Essentially what the City Council would
have to do to grant this easement under such circumstances would be to make a finding
that this particular pedestrian walkway asked for does indeed provide a substantial public
benefit. He said that on the diagram there is an access easement A area and an access
easement B area over which the City would be allowing this property owner to construct
a pedestrian walkway to allow people to walk from one particular point to another
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particular point. He said that if the council should consider granting this easement, the
language must indicate that this type of access will provide a substantial public benefit.
Commissioner Mirling asked Bruce Levinsky to comment and Mr. Levinsky deferred to
Pat Grant as his spokesman for the people that made the request for the easement. Pat
Grant said he handed out a synopsis of the project to area business owners, patrons of
downtown and to the Mayor. He said the Mayor thought the project was a good one, but
he needs some degree of assurance from Mr. Grant that there was public support for this
project. Pat Grant said that because they needed evidence of public support, they
circulated a petition and received over 300 signatures with 55 being merchants in the
down town district. He said that there is overwhelming support for this project and a
certain amount of frustration that it has taken this long for the project to be voted on. He
said the project has been discolored by personality problems. He said the Librarians and
Henry Dutcher of the local public library are in favor of the project because it will
provide a more comfortable access to Broadway from Putnam Street than Gardner Lane.
He said Putnam Street is the next potential site of downtown business development in the
City and this walkway would serve as a major catapult for businesses and developers to
move into that area of town.. He said efforts were taken to consider the downtown-
parking dilemma and as a result, only one parking spot will be lost in this project which
does not seem to be enough to warrant voting it down. He said that they have
demonstrated public support as requested and are here this evening hoping to move the
project forward.
Commissioner Curley said that he had discussed this project with Commissioner Mirling
at the very least for the purposes of discussion and for resolution. He said he does not
have a problem making a motion that the council accept this request as it has been
presented in hopes that it receives a second so that it can be discussed by the council.
Commissioner Tom Curley moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to
accept the project and warrant the easement as requested.
Commissioner Curley said this has been a long-term project that has been discussed a
great deal. He said he and Commissioner Mirling have both talked with Bruce Levinsky
on this matter and Mr. Levinsky has talked to the other members of the City Council and
the Mayor. He said that any citizen that brings an item before the City Council deserves
the opportunity to have that heard and discussed and voted on either positively or
adversely. Any citizen should be granted the opportunity to come before this body and
request a resolution for any situation that they are dealing with which is why he feels
comfortable making the motion and why Commissioner Mirling seconded that motion.
Commissioner Mirling said that this project has been a difficult issue for him. He said
that as he talked with Mr. Levinsky and others involved in the project, he found that there
is a great deal of information they present that indicates that this project would be a great
benefit to the public. He listed the notion of adding a story to that building, creating
additional space for a very high tech firm that is there; great potential for additional high
tech businesses to come to our downtown; is a wonderful idea. He said he has been
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impressed with many of Mr. Levinsky's projects, he has done some beautiful work that
has enhanced our City in many ways.
However, despite the fact that petitioners have a acquired a substantial number of
signatures in support of the project, he said he has heard from a large number of people
that are against the project. He said that tonight he is going to vote against this project
and the reason is primarily because he believes that if he owned this piece of property
that is in a prime location on Broadway, he would not encumber it with an easement that
would complicate what could be done with that piece of property in the future. He thinks
that is a critical issue that the City as owners of this property, the custodians of this
property for the citizens of Saratoga Springs, need to take into consideration that there are
no other easements on this property and this would create an easement on the property
that if the City chose to sell this parcel in the future, would certainly restrict how it could
be used and restrict how much money it could sell for.
He said he has recommended and would like to recommend publicly to Mr. Levinsky that
he purchase this lot which is terribly underused. He explained that to have a prime piece
of property on Broadway in the center of town, and use it to park a few cars is not a wise
use of that property in his opinion. He said he would rather sell that property so someone
could build on it, and take that money and expand parking in other parts of the City. He
said that they could get many more parking spaces for the value of that lot than the City is
getting by using it as a parking lot. So, he thinks that the best course of action for that
piece of property would be to sell it and create many more parking spaces somewhere
else. Commissioner Mirling said that after wrestling with the facts and after at one point
telling Mr. Levinsky that he was in favor of it because he liked the concept and likes the
quality of Mr. Levinsky's work, and after talking to more and more people and giving it a
lot of thought, he thinks the best solution is to have Mr. Levinsky purchase the lot.
Commissioner Mirling said that this is the wisest choice for the City Council as
custodians of this City property.
Commissioner McTygue said he could not agree with Commissioner Mirling more. He
said that it is about time that the City consider the possibility of selling that parcel of land
rather than creating a problem with an easement through there. He said Mr. Levinsky has
done a good job on projects in the City. He said he would like the City to place a value
on that property and sell that piece of property and lets encourage the opinionated local
newspaper to encourage them to examine their site in terms of developing a level of
parking structure over the existing parking lot rather than tow cars from there all summer.
Commissioner Mirling said he would like to comment in reference to the local newspaper
that he wishes they would get their facts straight. He said the paper printed that there was
an approval of this Pedestrian Walkway by the local Planning Board, but in fact although
the Planning Board made several suggestions and raised several questions but they did
not approve it.
Commissioner McTygue said that the City should sell the parcel to Mr. Levinsky and
take the money and spend it wisely because as the City Council learned recently from a
report on downtown parking, there is a serious situation with parking in this City. With
the additional development that Mr. Levinsky intends to put on that parcel, the City
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would be creating itself a serious parking problem that it is unable to address. He said the
City's downtown business has become very successful, and many of the projects Mr.
Levinsky has dealt with in the downtown business district have not provided one parking
space. He said it is time that the City had funds in order to provide additional parking in
the downtown business district.
Commissioner Lenz said that this is a difficult issue and he has spoken with Mr. Levinsky
several times on this matter. One of his concerns is to focus on the in-filling of
Broadway. He said that a lot of the areas that are currently parking lots on Broadway
were at one time buildings that either burned down or were torn down, and Lillians
Parking lot is no exception to that rule. Commissioner Lenz said that there was a
situation with the area known as the "mini-mall" which was not the best use for that
property. He said that the in-fill on that particular piece of property has had a tremendous
impact on the foot traffic and the economic activity on the west side of Broadway
because the Roohan building has incorporated a wonderful walk-through that was in
keeping with the RFP that the City put out. He said the City requested that the walk-
through exist for the purpose of allowing those that parked in the Woodlawn Avenue lots
to walk easily to Broadway.
He said he thought that Lillian's parking lot would be an ideal place for more in-fill. The
difficulty that the City has always struggled with is that it does not want to put in new
buildings without having parking to make up for the parking the City is going to lose
when the new buildings are put in. He said he knows there have been discussion about
another parking deck, which he said is one of those issues that is not a matter of "if" but
rather of "when" the funding is available, there will be an additional parking deck built
somewhere in the City. He said the City needs money to do that and one of the ways to
do that is to serve two purposes at once by issuing an RFP requesting someone to
purchase that particular parcel and utilize those funds to either off-set the debt-service
payment on a new parking facility or at least earmarking that money towards one.
He said that when the City is looking at a parcel of land to sell, it should be noted that
there are already issues on that property, there are exit doors on each building around that
parcel and access doors to apartments behind Lillian's. He said that to put one or two
easements on that parcel would impact the price of that parcel and might impede the
ability of someone to put a building on that parcel. He said he always thought that the lot
would be a perfect spot for a building because it would be the ideal use for that site. He
reiterated that to put two easements on that property would be a detriment to putting
together an RFP for the sale of that property. He said that he would also be voting no this
evening. He said the City Council ought to get together and the time is now to visit the
possibility of putting together an RFP. The City Council should set specific parameters
for what they would like that building to be like and once that is determined, they should
put together an RFP for the sale of that parcel.
Commissioner McTygue said that since the City Engineer was present, he would like the
Engineers to do a complete investigation of that parking lot because it is an elevated lot
with a lot of concrete structures supporting it, and it has probably been years since that lot
was examined. Since the City may end up having to invest money into that parking
structure, it is best to have information from the City Engineer on the condition of that
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parking structure. Commissioner McTygue said that he regretted that Barbara Lombardo
from the Saratogian newspaper is on vacation, so she was unable to attend tonight's
meeting to learn the facts first hand for her next editorial.
Commissioner Curley said he is looking at the project from a different point of view. He
said is going to support the motion. He feels that looking at what is possible for
development on secondary streets, behind Broadway, looking at the project from the
point of view that it could bring people from the secondary streets, for example those
from the Library or businesses in that area, and walkers from Caroline Street and Phila
Street up to Broadway from that particular pedestrian area. He said he thinks it could be
developed that if the easement was granted, .it could be written so that the City could
proceed with some of the concerns it has with developing that parking lot to a point
where a building could be built on it. He said that there is not much space left to build on
Broadway in the downtown area. He said that Congress Park Center is headed in the
right direction and with the building of the Roohan Building where there is a pedestrian
walkway going from a parking lot to Broadway. He said the thinking behind that from
his days of serving on the Planning Board was to give the foot traffic the opportunity to
go from a secondary street to the main street.
Commissioner Curley said he has had some but not a lot of discussion with people who
are opposed to this and some discussion with people in favor of it. He believes there is a
balance that could be sought out that possibly could make this work. He said he does
think the easement agreement could be written in a way that if something did come up
that the City could work with the builders or work with the people who are buying the
property so that it could be changed and made to work for the City even better. He said
he believes this would be an opportunity for the City Council to help open up some other
economic areas for the downtown development, and he intends to vote yes for this
proposal.
Bruce Levinsky asked to be able to comment prior to council's vote on this issue. He said
that since 1992 the City and Merlin Development have entered into a variety of
agreements, understandings and contracts; all with the express intention of bringing this
project to fruition at all times with a pedestrian connector. He said at all times with an
entryway to a third floor of that structure; at all times it was predicated upon a public
good. He said it was all codified, which the City Council members have seen repeatedly.
He said nothing has changed since 1992 that would in anyway detract the thinking other
than perhaps a concept that there is greater value to that parking lot. He said that in order
to make this a more feasible project for council approval, they were able to re-design it so
there would be only one single parking space eliminated. He said that the issue of
eliminating parking spaces was always the primary concern and they addressed that issue.
Mr. Levinsky said that it is clear that there are three users on that existing parking deck.
He said that the issue that has bubbled up within the past year is whether the request for
easements would somehow infringe upon a benefit that the City might receive now
thinking to sell that parking lot. He said he would use it as a parking lot. He thinks as a
developer that the easements would not be prohibitive relative to someone thinking of
acquiring that property. He said he is very discouraged at the suggestion of voting this
request down because it is certainly in the best interest of the City for this to go forward.
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Mr. Levinsky recommends that the City Council table the issue which would allow him
to get together with either Commissioner Mirling or Commissioner Curley to see if the
issue of easements vs. value; the possibility that the easements might adversely
encumber the value of that property; can be resolved. He said then he would come
back to the City Council for reconsideration because it makes no sense to vote negatively
and have the City lose something it has tried to achieve since 1992 when with a little
more effort to make this happen, the City could be the beneficiary as well as the business
owners and the citizens. He said there are too many benefits for the City to simply vote
this down, so he requests that the City Council withdraw their motion and table it to
reconvene at a later date after the City Council has had a chance to mitigate their
objections. He said that the City has an opportunity and it should take advantage of it
rather than vote it down.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded
to call the question. Ayes 3 Nays 1 (Curley)
Commissioner Lenz said that a vote could now be taken on the original motion made by
Commissioner Thomas Curley and seconded by Commissioner Bernard Mirling to accept
the easement as proposed. Nays 3 (Mirling, Lenz, McTygue) Ayes 1 (Curley)
Commissioner Mirling announced that given the events on September 11, he wanted to
remind people that they can make contributions to the Community Foundation in the
Accounts Department. The Community Foundation is raising the money for the
September 11 fund to go directly to the victims of this terrible tragedy. He said that
every penny that is collected will go to the victims because there are no administrative
funds of any kind. He said that if anyone would like to make a contribution to help the
victims can do so in the Accounts office.
Commissioner Curley brought up that the Saratoga Springs Fire Department have also
been collecting money by filling boots and have raised $12,000. They will make sure the
dollars are properly applied to the needs of the victims because fire departments are
families and they lost people in the tragedy.
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Approve Payrolls
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve the payroll for 09/07/01 in the amount of $ 351,681.59 and for 09/18/01 in
the amount of $ 349,074.88. Ayes all
Approve Warrants
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve the following warrants:
2SEP01 – Warrant 2 – 28
General Fund $ 150,552.36
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City Center Authority 10,985.95
Water Fund 18,202.76
Sewer Fund 2,935.82
Capital Projects Fund 265,104.65
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development 10,315.43
Total Warrant $ 458,096.97
Ayes all
MC010912 – WARRANT 2 – 5
General Fund $ 34,366.27
City Center Authority 355.50
Water Fund 26,777.12
Sewer Fund 255.02
Capital Project 400.00
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
Total Warrant $ 62,153.91
Ayes all
MC091201 – WARRANT 2
General Fund $ 6,000.00
City Center Authority -0-
Water Fund -0-
Sewer Fund -0-
Capital Project -0-
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
Total Warrant $ 6,000.00
Ayes all
Approve Budget Amendments (See Attached)
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve the budget amendments as distributed. Ayes all.
Approve Budget Transfers (see attached)
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded
to approve the budget transfers as distributed. Ayes all
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Discussion: 2002 Budget:
Commissioner Lenz said that on August 25, 2001 he circulated the 2002 revenue and
expenditure budget request worksheets. He said that the worksheets are due in his office
by October 1, 2001 in accordance with the City Charter. He said once he has received all
of the requests, he will compile the requests and report to the council a detail of the
requests by the October 15, 2001 deadline. He said that after October 15, he will schedule
workshops and public hearings in order to have a budget adopted by November 30, 2001.
August 31, 2001 Financial Report
Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown distributed the Financial report for the
month ending August 31, 2001. Commissioner Lenz said this report is through August
31, and approximately 64% of the City’s budgeted expenditures have been expended and
that is right about where the City ought to be and even a little ahead. He said that some
of the departments are a little ahead and some a little behind, but overall it is right on
schedule, so he urged the departments to keep up the good work as they move into the
final part of the year.
Approve Expenditures from Capital Reserve :
Commissioner Lenz said that on August 21, 2001 the City Council approved up to
$55,000 to complete structural repairs in the Engineer Office in City Hall. Due to the fact
that the work to be done involves extensive reconstruction of the foundation and support
structures, the City Attorney has said that the payments can be made from the “Real
Property Acquisition and Municipal Facility Improvement Capital Reserve Fund.”
Commissioner Lenz explained that this fund was established to be used to improve
municipal facilities, for parking structures, or anything related to a municipal function.
He said he asked Jeff Wait to check into this and he confirmed that since this project is
being done on City Hall, then this fund could be used. Therefore Commissioner
Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the
City Engineer reconstruction expenditures not to exceed $55,000.00 from the “Real
Property Acquisition and Municipal Facility Improvement Capital Reserve Fund”.
Commissioner Lenz said that the money for this project was approved at the September 4
City Council meeting. He clarified that this is a motion to state where, the line item, that
money was coming from. Ayes all
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Commissioner Thomas McTygue announced the paving schedule for October 1 through
October 4.
Ratification of Previously Approved Expenditures
Commissioner McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
ratify the expenditure that has been previously approved by memo for ADMAR
Supply Company of Albany in the amount of $1400 for the rental of the electric
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boom used at the Carousel site. Commissioner McTygue said that they gave the City a
credit of $550 off the original bill. Ayes all
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling
seconded to ratify the expenditure for Hawk Well Drilling in the amount of $2881
for a new water well at the Weibel Avenue PBA Field. Commissioner McTygue
explained that originally the memo listed the amount as $2,605, but there is an additional
charge of $ 276, bringing the total to be approved up to $2881 because they had to drill
lower than the 50 feet that was quoted. He said it is a good clean well. Ayes all.
Commissioner McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve the expenditure to Saratoga Sod Farm in the amount of $1,114 for sod for
the West Side Recreation Field. Commissioner McTygue said this is for the
improvements of the baseball field on the West Side. Ayes all
Commissioner McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to
approve the expenditure to Bellevue Builders in the amount of $3,817.45 for spruce
decking for the carousel site. Ayes all
Commissioner McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve the expenditure to the William Morris Excavation Company in the amount
of $4,000 for grading and topsoil at the West Side Recreation Field baseball
diamond. Ayes all.
Commissioner McTygue commented that a considerable amount of improvements have
been done at the East and West Side Recreation Fields. He urged the council members to
drive by Gilbert Road fields to see the activity., He said there are twenty four games
going on simultaneously there. He said that there have been some changes and
improvements to the parking situation and some help was needed with traffic control.
There are now two entrances coming into this field. He said that to see the amount of
children having fun at the Gilbert Road Fields, the East Side Field and the Geyser Park
fields is evident that there is a lot going on in this City for the youth of Saratoga Springs.
Commissioner McTygue said he has personnel present at the Gilbert Road sight to help
with parking the cars, and moving the cars out of the site to keep everyone safe.
Request Workshop Re: Abandoned Property in the City
He said that what he would like to do in conjunction with the Department of Public
Safety and their Code Enforcement people and with the City Attorney is to clean up the
abandoned properties. He would like a meeting to inform the City Council and the
general public of what is going on with regards to these properties. He said for example
there is an abandoned piece of property of Division Street which has been abandoned for
well over ten years. It has not been cleaned up and it does not look like the City is going
to get the assistance it needs, so this workshop should be held to decide what action the
City is going to take on its own to clean up these sites, and eventually go through the
process of taking these properties over. He said there are several sites, one where two
days were spent to clean up a site where the owner had passed away. He said the clean-
ups are to enhance the neighborhood because the neighbors should not have to deal with
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the mess at some of these abandoned properties. Cleaning up and clearing off these sites
helps eliminate the blight in some of these areas because they are then visible to
neighbors and passers by.
He said that perhaps a ten or fifteen minute discussion at each Council meeting for awhile
would keep the process moving in a forward direction. Commissioner Curley said there
are a few properties his department is concerned about and would like to add to the list.
Commissioner McTygue said that there was a piece of property on Nelson Avenue with
an absentee landlord and he was sent a letter and now that parcel is cleaned up. He said
some of these situations only take a little communication to solve, others will take more
drastic steps. Commissioner Curley said that when he first took office, they tried to go
the route of “voluntary compliance” and had some degree of cooperation but the last
couple of years they have become more aggressive and have subsequently been more
successful. He said that once the tone is set to take aggressive action it sets the pace and
quickens the compliance ratio a lot more and that approach has resulted in more success.
Clarification of Capital Project – Gas Canopy
Commissioner McTygue said that when they set their capital account in the budget there
was an oversight in how it was printed because the line item says only “salt shed”. He
explained that the department’s request at the time was for money for both the salt shed
and the gas canopy projects to be set aside in that account. He needs the correction to be
made so that the expenditures pertaining to the gas canopy can be paid. Commissioner
Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to make the
clarification that the line item in the Department of Public Works capital account in
the amount of $70,000 be changed to read “salt shed and gas canopy”.
Commissioner Lenz said that he wanted to make sure that he has the right information.
He said that in the 2001 budget, in the capital reserve account there was $70,000 set aside
for salt shed. He said the gas canopy project was apparently removed during the budget
process. He asked Commissioner McTygue to clarify the amounts of money for each of
the two projects. Commissioner McTygue said that at this point the money would be
used for the gas canopy with the remainder encumbered into next year for the salt shed
project. He said he would like the line item to list both projects. Ayes all
Discussion & Vote – Grande Industrial Park Water Tank
Commissioner McTygue said that on March 20, 2001 the City Council approved a
contract with Barton & Loguidice to design a water tower for the Grande Industrial Park
in the amount of $54,000. He said it was his understanding that the money from the City
contribution, $350,000 and the expected money from the County, $325,000, would cover
this. Commissioner McTygue explained that the money expected from the county has
not materialized and he is requesting that the money be taken out of the City’s surplus for
this payment. Also, if and when the City is reimbursed for this work from the County or
the State, the money will be returned to the City’s surplus. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to take $ 54,000
from the City’s surplus in lieu of the contribution promised from Saratoga County
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with a promise that if and when the City is reimbursed for this project by the
County or the State, the money will be returned to the City’s surplus.
Commissioner Lenz called upon City Engineer Paul Male to explain this. Paul Male said
that initially Barton and Loguidice had proposed to do the work for two hundred
thousand dollars plus, but the Engineering Office and the Department of Public Works
did a lot of the work themselves and reduced the proposal to $54,000. They were
providing the expertise the City did not have and they filled out an application for
funding for this water tower project.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue read, from a copy of the minutes of March 20, 2001,
the motion he made regarding this project. He said that the contract entered into with
Barton & Loguidice was in the amount of $54,000 and the motion states that that amount
also includes $2,500 for pressure monitoring equipment. Paul Male said this equipment
has not yet been received. Commissioner McTygue said that the funds were going to be
available in the Sewer Account assuming that the County would give the City the funds,
which have never materialized. Paul Male said that to date around $400,000 has been
spent on this project. Commissioner Lenz asked what is to be expected on this project
regarding expenses and Paul Male said that the project will ultimately cost around 2.6
million dollars. He said that they have tried to secure grant funds for this but nothing has
materialized as yet and the County has not sent their money. He said although money
was appropriated from the State, he said that the money might have to be redistributed
due to the World Trade Center disaster on September 11.
Commissioner McTygue commented that some of the lines going into the building may
be too small to accommodate the connectors and he said that can effect service. He said
that Barton & Loguidice wants to analyze pressure problems and resolve them. He said
that Nelson and Crescent Avenues need a pressure-reducing valve. He said that the City
has made it through population increases to 100,000 people without problems, so he
believes the City may be able to cure its service problems without spending millions.
He said the only reason the City may need to build the water tower is for additional
industrialization.
Commissioner McTygue said he does not want to get into these situations again, so no
projects are going to be done on the County's promise again because he does not trust
them to follow through. He said that if the money is not on the line the City should not
participate with the County on a project.
Commissioner Lenz said that the Nation is entering a period of financial uncertainty and
he cautioned that when thinking about budgeting, the council members must try to avoid
taking money from the surplus because of the uncertain times ahead. Ayes all
Discussion – Veteran’s Walk of Honor Brick Re-Dedication – September 22
Commissioner McTygue urged all the City Council members and the public to attend the
re-dedication of the veteran’s walk of honor in Congress Park on Saturday September 22,
at 2:00 PM. He said that to date his department has installed 1,534 bricks. The 199th
Army Band from Camp Smith in Peekskill will be performing as well as the Son’s &
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Daughters of Liberty Fife and Drum Corps. He said a benediction will follow. He said
that light refreshments will be served after the ceremony.
Waive of Bid – Dehn’s Flowers; Curtis Lumber
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley
seconded to approve a waive of bid to Dehn’s Flowers in the amount of $3,167.53 for
an accumulation of flowers and shrubs for the remainder of the summer that were
not included in this year’s bid. He said that the money is in his budget for this. He also
pointed out that the City is reimbursed by the downtown Special Assessment District
toward the purchase of flowers for the business district. Ayes all
Commissioner McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to
approve a waive of bid for Curtis Lumber Company in the amount of $2,806.30 for
laminate beams for the Gas Canopy at the City Garage. He said the money is in the
Capital Budget for this project. Ayes all
Request Transfer of Funds – Landfill Closure to Spring Brook Run Capital
Commissioner McTygue explained that at the City Council meeting of April 17, 2001,
the council voted unanimously to hire the law firm of Young & Sommer to act as legal
representative in the pending litigation with the Department of Environmental
Conservation, but the money was not appropriated at that time. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve a
transfer of funds from the Landfill Closure Account into the Spring Brook Run
Capital Account #H361 8174 54729 1042 in the amount of $10,000 to cover these
bills. Ayes all
PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
Authorization for Mayor to Sign Court Security Agreement
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling for the
Mayor to sign the annual 2001-2002 Court Security Agreement for the Offices of
Court Administration in the amount of $81,000. Commissioner Curley said this is an
annual contract with reimbursement to provide security to City Court. Ayes all
WTC Disaster Response
Commissioner Curley said it is important to know that there are members of the City’s
Police and Fire Departments that have been involved in the disaster in New York City.
He urges the City Council and the public to remember these people to make sure they
come back safely. For the New York Urban Regional Response Team, there are SSFD
Captain Robert Williams, Firefighter Joseph Cook and Firefighter John Stewart. From
the 109th New York Air National Guard Firefighter Michael Woodcock and representing
the New York Army National Guard 417th C Company, Firefighter Pat Rocco who has
been down returned and is scheduled on standby to go back down; and New York Army
National Guard 42nd Division, Lt. John Betor of the SSFD and on standby with the Army
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Reserves are Anthony Strauss and Jason Tetu with the Saratoga Springs Police
Department. He said there also has been a request to provide a resource list for the
Division of Criminal Justice of the State of New York and there have been a number of
Police Officers who have signed up to rotate down to New York City should a need be
triggered by the State and it would be the New York City Emergency Personnel to relieve
some of the Police Officers in New York City.
Commissioner Curley said there is a tremendous outpouring of support for what is going
on and he would like to give recognition to these individuals and ask for the support and
prayers of everyone for these individuals that they come back safely.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded
to adjourn the meeting. Seeing no further business, Commissioner Michael Lenz closed
the meeting at 8:58 pm. Ayes all
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Wagner
Clerk
Adopted:
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