City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · August 1, 2006
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City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, August 1, 2006
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
TUESDAY, AUGUST 1, 2006
5:50 P.M.
PRESENT : Valerie Keehn, Mayor
Commissioner John Franck, Accounts
Commissioner Ron Kim, DPS
Commissioner Matthew McCabe, Finance
Commissioner Thomas McTygue, DPW
SUPERVISORS: Cheryl Keyrouze
Joanne Yepsen
STAFF PRESENT : Lynn Bachner, Deputy Commissioner Finance
Michele Boxley, Deputy Commissioner Accounts
Pat Design, Deputy Commissioner DPW
Eileen Finneran, Deputy Mayor
Michael Englert, City Attorney
Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Valerie Keehn called the meeting to order at 5:50 p.m.
Executive Session
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to adjourn to
executive session at 5:50 p.m. for PBA contract discussions and the Freightenburg matter. Ayes all. Council
members returned at 6:30 p.m. and reported that no action was taken.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Fingerprinting Ordinance
Commissioner Ron Kim said there is a state requirement for a municipality to have a local ordinance which
would enable the City to fingerprint city personnel and submit those fingerprints to DCJS. He said many
position titles have been included in this ordinance.
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the public hearing on the Fingerprinting Ordinance. There being no one wishing
to speak, Mayor Valerie Keehn closed the public hearing.
Local Law Repealing Charter Section 11.2 Limitations on Bonding Capabilities and Enacting a new Charter
Section 11.2 Limitation on Amount of Local Indebtedness which may be Contracted
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this local law would increase the City’s indebtedness from 1 percent to 3
percent. This increase has been discussed for quite some time and it is necessary to meet the future financial
obligations of the City. There are a lot of major projects coming up and the city needs to be able to discuss
them. Looking at the available dollar amount to bond next year, limits the City’s ability to finance capital
projects. This increase in the bonding limit will enable the City to bond those projects.
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the public hearing.
Peter Tulin, 40 Sarazen Street, said the Connolly plan was put into place in the late 70s early 80s. At that time
the City had no debt. The City would save money each year to pay for a project. The Connolly plan was meant
to tie the hands of future Councils. Since that plan was adopted, the City’s real estate prices have gone up
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significantly, which has increased the bonding limit. The City has a tremendous infrastructure need. The City
should have a complete review of its needs, determine the costs, tighten their belts and then look at other ways
to secure funding for those projects. That all should be done before the limit is increased.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this local law is subject to a permissive referendum. There would need
to be a petition filed within 45 days of the Council’s adoption of this local law.
Rose Tait, Lincoln Avenue, said the Connolly plan came to pass at about the same time as the sales tax came
into existence. She submitted a letter for the record on her concerns of increasing the limit. This would
mortgage the future of the taxpayers. There will be more than $2 million in new revenue from the Racino.
Commissioner Ron Kim just spent $5,200 on new uniforms for five police officers so they look nice in parades
and yet Commissioner Ron Kim was not concerned with the loss of parking revenue from the youth parking
program. Why does the City need a new indoor recreational facility when there is a new YMCA being
constructed? Why does the City need to pay a consultant $100,000 to tell us where to put a police station?
How can the residents of this City come to the Council and address these issues when the preliminary agenda
and the final agendas are published so close to the actual meeting date. All of these things are being done
without public input.
John Kraus, 227 Grand Avenue, representing the Saratoga Citizens for Affordable Taxes and member of the
DPS capital construction committee, said that the City needs to increase in the bonding limit. The current
bonding limit is too restrictive. There are major needs in the City such as the EMS facility, police facility and
recreation facility. The City needs to plan for routine yearly maintenance. The way to accomplish these large
projects is through an increased debt ceiling. The proposed 3 percent is well below the state limit of 7 percent.
He said with a new debt ceiling, the City could potentially have $71 million available for capital projects. The
cost to taxpayers will be cents per thousand. Each capital project will stand on its own during the capital
budget process. This will simply give the City some flexibility.
Charles Morrison, 88 Court Street, agreed with John Kraus. He said he did not believe that there was another
city in this state that had a 1 percent cap on bonding. He said most are living within the 7 percent. He said that
perhaps there should be some thought given to doing away with a limit.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this increase in bonding limit is not for salaries or benefits. It is forcapital
improvements. The vote this evening is not to spend money. This is not an endorsement for any one project.
There are still many questions to be answered. The Council will still vote on spending the funds and it will
require some discipline of this Council to base their vote on the merit of the project. This is about what is best
for the City.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said this local law would be subject to permissive referendum if a petition is submitted
within 45 days. This local law shall take effect upon the 46th day of adoption.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Valerie Keehn closed the public hearing.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the public comment period.
Rose Tait, Lincoln Avenue, said she was interested in tonight’s discussion on the noise ordinance. She lives
near Siro’s and the noise coming from Siro’s is almost unbearable during the summer months. She said she
has been told by Siro’s that if she calls them anymore to request that they turn down their music they would
have her arrested for harassment. She now calls the police department. Siro’s has bands playing seven
nights a week. The Planning Board noted in one of their discussions that 70 decibels was an argumentative
level. She invited Commissioner
Carol Saunders, 1 Bingham Street, said she was representing the neighbors in her neighborhood. They do not
want the duplex constructed in their neighborhood. She contacted the Mayor’s office about the area remaining
as open space. They would like the City to purchase the land so that it could remain open space.
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Charles Morrison, 88 Court Street, said before the Council purchases any more land for open space, the bond
act law requires that the Council develop and adopt criteria for the purchases. The advisory committee should
develop criteria and make a recommendation to the Council. Purchasing land without this criteria has put a
cloud over the purchases. He also pointed out the neighborhood parks was a strong recommendation in the
open space plan, however, there has been no follow up to that recommendation. The Council needs to set
some priorities before buying land in a random fashion.
Peter Tulin, 40 Sarazen Street, said he believed that a supermajority vote was required on the bonding limit
proposal. It is also subject to a permissive referendum and would become law on day 46. He asked what
percentage of residents would need to sign the petition to get it on the ballot. He said the residents need to
know that number. He also said there was some confusion with parking along Broadway. Some of the loading
zones are marked as no parking between 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. while other loading zone signs do not list
hours.
Andrew Brindisi said the valet parking program which began this past weekend went well. He thanked the
Council and City staff for their support and all of their work. He said there are 12 restaurants participating in
this program. There was some confusion with the cost for valet parking and that will be reviewed. He said
over the three nights there were nearly 60 cars who utilized the valet parking.
Tim Grande, Director of Operations for Valet Parking America, thanked the City for the opportunity to provide
this program in the City. He would continue to work with the City on any of the small issues pointed out this
past weekend. There was good feedback from the people using the service. They have also offered their
assistance to the police department to keep their eye out for suspicious circumstances. He said he was in this
for the long term and again thanked the City.
Al Tarkhammer, 158 Woodlawn Avenue, said the noise in the City is a quality of life issue. This ordinance
needs to be supported by Commissioner Ron Kim and the police department. When developing the ordinance,
the City needs to be specific on the decibel levels. There is state law that regulates the noise from vehicles to
50 feet. He said the motor cycles also fall under that law. This is a quality of life issue that needs to be
enforced.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he understood the guidelines for the Open Space group, but he
suggested that purchasing lands in the city for parks was a good use. The City has not purchased any land
within the City for recreational use. The Council has not purchased land in a random fashion. The Bingham
Street area matter is a request from the neighbors which they have been talking about for years. The City
should consider the Snack Shack on Congress Street and the Getty Station on South Broadway. These are
important pieces of land with high visibility. It was unlikely that residents even knew that the City purchased
the land along Route 50 heading towards Ballston Spa. These other parcels inside the City were high visibility
parcels.
Charles Morrison said he was not asking the Council to do anything other than what the law requires and that
was to set priorities and criteria. Commissioner Thomas McTygue agreed that the open space committee
needed to meet.
Commissioner Ron Kim said he would recuse himself from discussing the Bingham Street parcel because it
was very close to his home.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said she would have Geoff Bornemann call Carol Saunders tomorrow on the Bingham
Street parcel matter. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that was not sufficient. He said everyone already
knows that the City Planning Board has approved the project. He was asking that this parcel be brought before
the open space committee for consideration. He is holding up the developer of this project because he is
waiting for the open space committee to address the matter.
Ray Nichols, 11 Martin Avenue, said he went to the Planning Board meeting last week and within a matter of
15 minutes he got all of the information he needed on this piece of property.
Mayor Valerie Keehn closed the public comment period.
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PRESENTATIONS
Route 9P Bridge Replacement Project
Erin Caruso and Jim Phillips, NYSDOT, made a presentation on the Route 9P Bridge Replacement project.
Jim Phillips outlined the process that DOT is using to develop, design and construct the Route 9P bridge
replacement project. He said they are looking at the existing conditions, project objectives, schedules,
alternatives to the proposal, maintaining traffic during construction, cost, etc. They have done a scoping
meeting, gathered public comments and developed alternative designs. It will then go to preliminary design,
then draft design report, public hearing and then the final design report. From there the final plan with specs
and estimates will be let for construction.
This project is at the northern end of the lake at the outlet of Fish Creek, near Boatworks, the state boat launch
and restaurant. The existing bridge is 600 feet long with no shoulders and a small pedestrian walkway. He
then displayed photographs of the bridge and surrounding area. The bridge does not have the capacity for
permitted “R” trucks. It needs more vertical clearance below the bridge depending on the time of the year. The
bridge itself has had some erosion problems. There is a need for more pedestrian access, shoulders and a
bicycle access. There are utilities both below and above the bridge that need to be factored into this project.
He then showed photographs of the traffic congestion because of the recent regatta held there. There are
wetlands to deal with as well. The current schedule is for the project to be let in 2008 for construction in 2009
ending in 2010. The estimated cost of the project is $10 million funded 80/20 (federal/state)
They are currently reviewing the alternatives ranging from doing nothing to complete replacement. The
proposals still remaining as alternatives are 3E, 4E, 5A and 5D. He then described those alternatives ranging
from a new bridge to detouring traffic, other traffic impacts, utility impacts, cost, design of the project, etc.
Mayor Valerie Keehn asked how much longer the public had to weigh in on this project. Erin Caruso said the
deadline was August 1, however, they would still take comments. Mayor Valerie Keehn thanked them for the
presentation.
Neighborhood Preservation Ordinance
Carrie Woerner displayed a map of the downtown area showing the areas of concern. The Saratoga Springs
Preservation Foundation (SSPF) recently completed a survey in the historic districts. This survey identified a
number of properties where there was significant deterioration of structures. The buildings highlighted in the
material are the 12 buildings that they believe are worth saving. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked for a
list of those buildings. Carrie Woerner provided that list with photographs. She said these buildings are
showing signs of structural failure. It is not basic maintenance such as painting that has placed these
structures in jeopardy, but rather neglect. These building have missing roof sections, walls that are now tilting,
broken windows that have not been repaired, etc. The proposed ordinance will provide the enforcement tools.
She said many properties in the historic district have been well maintained, however, there are some that have
had not been maintained. The buildings that have been neglected have a strong economic impact in their
neighborhoods. It is documented that where these neglected buildings are located, assessed values are about
13 percent lower than similar neighborhoods. It is a quality of life issue as well as an economic issue. This
ordinance does two things -- first it protects the City’s landmarks by requiring owners to maintain their
buildings; second, it requires that before a building can be demolished the City has the right to inspect the
structure. It also allows for the code administrators to inspect the structures, notify the owners of the issues
and then gives the owners 540 days to remedy the situation. If the owners do not correct the problem, the City
would then have the tools for court proceedings, fines, court ordered mandates and/or jail time. In some cases,
not all buildings are worth saving. Those buildings that are now worth saving can be demolished, however,
before demolition; they will be reviewed for potential historic value. There are other cities such as Charleston,
Portland, and New Orleans that have this ordnance so this is no new ground. They are not talking about
penalizing homeowners who are struggling to maintain their property. There are resources throughout this
community such as Community Development, SSPF, Rebuilding Saratoga, etc., that are available with funding
for those people struggling. This ordinance is meant for those property owners who are purposefully not
attending to their buildings. There will be a workshop on this ordinance at the SSPF office on August 10. The
ordinance is available on their web site. She respectfully requested that the Council consider setting a public
hearing on this ordinance.
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Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that he wanted to be sure that the property owners who might be
impacted by this ordinance were contacted about the public hearing. Carrie Woerner said that could be done.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe suggested that the Council wait on setting the public hearing. Michael Englert
said a local law should be introduced by a Council member. Commissioner Ron Kim said this new ordinance
placed a great deal of responsibility on the City to police these properties. He said neighboring property
owners should all be given the ability to address these issues on their own. It is difficult for residents because
of attorney’s fees. He suggested that perhaps the loser of the lawsuit could be forced to pay all of the
attorney’s fees.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there is already a lot of laws and ordinances on the books. The issue is
lack of enforcement. He questioned adding another layer. People are buying up these properties and this new
ordinance will not stop them from buying the properties and then doing nothing. The issue is enforcement. He
did not support this ordinance when former Mayor Michael Lenz presented it. The City isn’t enforcing the laws
on the books now. There is a property on East Broadway that the City has been trying to address for three
years. The taxes are so high in this City that property owners do not have the money to fix their homes. All
property owners need to be made aware of this ordinance. He questioned whether property owners should be
cited for minor issuers. Carrie Woerner only buildings with a significant amount of deterioration would be cited.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked what would happen to the property owners who could not afford to do
the repairs. Carrie Woerner said there are programs to help homeowners. She said that many of the buildings
that are deteriorated are not owner occupied.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said that the City needs a policy on code enforcement where fines can be
levied and than placed on their taxes. He said he did not want the City going after people who simply could not
afford to do the work. The City needs to go after the absentee landlords The Council should hold a workshop
on this matter.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to approve the consent agenda as
presented.
1. Accept Donations for the Visitors Center Multicultural Music Series:
Marco Polo Homes $1,700 and Robert Davis $250
2. Approval of July 18 Council meeting minutes
3. Approve Budget Transfers – Payroll (Attachment A)
4. Approve Budget Amendments (Attachment B)
5. Accept Donations – Outstanding Athletes Banquet
Concord Pools $1,000, Frost Architecture $200, Stewart ’s Shops $5,000, Allerdice $1,000
Ayes: four (Commissioner Thomas McTygue left the room)
SUPERVISORS
Cheryl Keyrouze
Business showcase: The Business Showcase will be held on October 5. She will have booth at a cost of
$190. She asked if anyone wanted to share the expense to please contact her.
Hazardous Waste: She recently received a letter from a constituent who wanted to dispose of hazardous
waste and there was no place to do so. The City is holding a hazardous waste day on October 7. She did talk
to DEC and found that there are some other towns in the County that hold hazardous waste days. She is
going to talk to the supervisors about doing a county wide event or to allow all residents in the county to go to
any hazardous waste day. She also found that neither Washington or Warren counties hold hazardous waste
days. She believed this should be mandated by the state and will work on that matter with the state. She will
work with county supervisors on the possibility of a countywide waste day.
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Horse Park: There was a meeting on July 20 at the library which was not well attended, but the small group
that was there was enthusiastic. She will continue her research and will be traveling to New Jersey and
Kentucky horse parks.
Ball Metal Container: She was contacted by a constituent on the emissions at Ball Metal. She met with the Ball
Metal officials and toured the plant. She found that the cans are sprayed on both the inside and outside and
then baked. The spray is a water base. The air emissions at Ball are monitored by DEC and EPA. The
material goes through an incinerator. There is a vent on the second floor where some of the material is
released through vents. It appears that everything meets the NYS standards. She noted that employees at
the plant also where air quality measures on their uniforms.
Joanne Yepsen
Legislative issues: She reported that the water committee, racing committee, and law and finance committee
will meet this week. The full board will meet on August 15. She said there would be some potential funding for
agencies in Saratoga Springs through the Saratoga Racing Gaming Foundation. Interested agencies should
contact her. The County also has funding in the amount of $1.5 million for Saratoga County residents for open
space projects and they should contact her. She noted that she has a web site that she posts regular updates
to and encouraged residents to visit the web site at www.supervisoryepsen.com.
MAYOR’S OFFICE
Authorization for Mayor to sign Licensing Agreement – Emergency Generators
Tony Izzo said the agreement and map had been submitted to Council members. The map shows where the
emergency generators are to be placed. This is not an easement but a licensing agreement. Commissioner
Matthew McCabe asked if the City might be able to use this generator in an emergency. Mayor Valerie Keehn
said it was worth having a discussion with the bank on that matter.
Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to authorize the Mayor to
sign the licensing agreement with the Adirondack Trust Company as presented. Ayes all.
Capital Program – Set Public Hearing
Mayor Valerie Keehn scheduled public hearings on the capital program for Tuesday, August 15 at 6:00 p.m.
and Tuesday, September 5 at 6:30 p.m. There will be another public hearing scheduled at a later date and a
public workshop.
Extension of Contract for Behan Associates
Mayor Valerie Keehn withdrew this item from discussion.
Economic Development Loan for – Max, Restaurant and Bar
Mayor Valerie Keehn withdrew this item from discussion.
Ryan Biggs Contracts – Rip Van Dam
Mayor Valerie Keehn said this item was tied to the Mid State Construction contract.
Mid State to provide Construction Assistance – Rip Van Dam
Michael Englert said he had been working with Mike Luce, MidState Construction, for the last 1 ½ weeks on
obtaining a proposal from their company. A proposal was received yesterday morning for $50,000. He asked
Mid State to develop a proposal with more detailed figures for the $50,000. Mike Luce that would send it this
morning, however, he did not receive it. Therefore, the item should be pulled from the agenda due to the lack
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of a contract. He said Mike Luce has cooperated with the City on the preparation work and it could be that
because he is so busy, that he was unable to obtain all of the necessary information to develop a more detailed
number. He said it is also a complicated insurance matter, because the City needs to have an insurable
interest before the City’s insurance policy will cover this work. It could cost as much as $25,000 to obtain that
insurance.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said a number of things have changed since the Council initially discussed this matter.
The City has cited him on the violations and the courts have reviewed the matter. It now appears that there
should be a complete inspection of the building.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said when the Council first acted on this matter, it appeared to be an urgent
matter. It does not appear to be as urgent now. He said the tenants in this building should be made aware of
these issues. He did not believe there was imminent danger.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there was an article in the newspaper this morning stating that the
owner of the building may apply for a demolition permit. Michael Englert said the City has discussed the
possibility of a demolition permit with the owner several times. However, a demolition permit will not be issued
without first stabilizing the building and presenting a plan for future use of the space. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue said it seemed simple – if the building owner did not proceed as directed by the courts, then he
should be fined.
Commissioner Ron Kim said that fining the building owner is an option. However, there should be a complete
inspection of the building first.
Michael Englert said there has been no determination made by any City personnel that the building should be
demolished. There has been a determination that the building needs to be stabilized. Demolition is a
possibility though but there is a process for demolition which the building owner has not initiated.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue disagreed that no City official had not made the statement that the building
should be demolished. He said that in fact, one of the code administrators had been on television making that
statement. Michael Englert said there has been no determination that the building needs to be demolished.
City personnel have made the determination that stabilization is the correct avenue. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue said that the code administrators should go to the building and take a complete look.
Marilyn Rivers said Ryan Biggs has been working since May 26 without a contract. Commissioner Matthew
McCabe said the Engineering Department is paying for this. The City needs contracts in place before work is
begun.
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Authorize Mayor to sign final expenditure for Fire Department Inventory Grant Project
Commissioner John Franck announced the conclusion of the Fire Department Records Inventory Project that
was funded by the State Archives and Records Administration. The City has received $6,190 to inventory fire
department records and set up a record storage room. Items funded included:
Part Time Clerk (worked 143 hours)
10 units of steel shelving
Installation of a fire-rated steel door and lockset
Shredder bags, file boxes
Step ladder
Portable workstation
3 units of steel shelving for the inactive records upstairs in the Public Safety Office
103 cubic feet of records were inventoried.
70 cubic feet were disposed, and
3 cubic feet were transferred to the City Historian
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He thanked the Public Safety staff, particularly the Fire Department for their cooperation and assistance with
this project. It is mandatory that a final expense report be filed with the New York State Archives in order to
receive the final 10 percent of the grant funds.
Therefore, Commissioner John Franck moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to authorize the
Mayor to sign the final expenditure report of the Fire Department inventory project. Ayes all.
MSDS Program for City Hall Website
Commissioner John Franck said that Risk and Safety Management will be working towards placing the City’s
material safety datasheets on line with web access for all employees. The program will allow the City’s paper
database of material safety datasheets to be copied to an online web system for all employees and a CD
system, which will allow easy remote access for fire and police activities. It will also allow hazard label printing
for NFPA Ratings and provide Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) standards for the City’s Hazard
Communication Program.
Mayor Valerie Keehn asked what was MSDS. Marilyn Rivers said this is information on all chemical used in
the City. This program will allow for the sheets to be scanned into the system, linked to the City Hall web site
and viewed by anyone accessing the City’s web page. This will also benefit the community.
Return to Work Programming via Safety Committee
Commissioner John Franck said Marilyn Rivers will begin exploring partnerships with each City department to
develop and implement return to work opportunities via the City’s Workers Compensation Program. The
purpose of the program includes the following:
Maximizing the health and well being of injured employees
Cost containment
Promotion of consistency of good work habits
Promotion of teamwork within department structures
She will initially be partnering with Marcy Brydges, Human Resource Administrator, Finance personnel and
other members of Safety Committee to determine the parameters of the City’s needs.
Marilyn Rivers said that workers comp costs have been identified by the City’s insurance carriers as a place
where the City should try to gain some cost containment. Both DPS and DPW have expressed an interest in
getting their employees back to work. She will be working through the Safety Committee to assist workers and
departments in meeting the goal of bringing employees back to work. Programs will be developed for each to
manage the workers and costs.
FINANCE DEPT
Approve Payrolls
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to approve the following
payrolls: July 2 1, 2006 - $386,122.66 and July 28, 2006 -- $383,354.08. Ayes all.
Approve Warrants
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Mayor Valerie Keehn seconded to approve the following
warrants:
2006 Mini Warrant 7/26/06 MC3JUL06 $ 45,385.53
2006 Regular Warrant 8/1/06 1/AUG06 $812,663.62
Ayes all.
Bond Resolution – Amendment – Public Safety Facilities (06-141)
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this is an amendment to a previously approved bond resolution and only
amends the definition of the $100,000 funding for DPS projects. It has been adjusted to allow for strategic
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planning, cost benefit analysis and design of new public safety facilities including a new police station and/or a
new fire EMS building.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to approve the bond
resolution dated August 1 , 2006, which amends the definition for DPS facilities.
Commissioner Ron Kim said it was important to recognize that a lot of time has been spent studying the need
for both a police and EMS facility. There has never really been a plan but only a lot of deception in the past.
There needs to be a cost analysis of what these facilities may cost and the only way to do that is to engage
consultants. By adopting this bond amendment this evening will allow the City to move forward on this project.
Commissioner John Franck said there was a report done several years ago on a police facility and asked if that
would be of any value. Commissioner Ron Kim said it only studied the parcel behind City Hall. He said it was
also important to address the City Courts needs. If the site behind City Hall is used, there may need to be a
bridge between the two buildings which was never addressed.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue pointed out that the actual expenditure of the funds will come back to the
Council for further discussion. There are still many unanswered questions such as staffing these facilities and
what will happen to the emergency corp. He said these items need to be addressed, but a site needs to be
selected first. Studies inevitably end up sitting on the shelves in the vault. The Council already knows the
City’s needs.
Commissioner Ron Kim said there are too many unanswered questions and that is where the consultant can
help the City. He said he did not know which the best location was. Commissioner Thomas McTygue
suggested working with the Chamber. There are many alternatives. Commissioner Ron Kim said that could
be done. He said there needs to be some consideration to the courts needs. It is likely that they will reimburse
the City for some of the bonding, but there needs to be some research on the incremental costs of adding the
court to the project.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there is a lot of talent in the City that should be used. Commissioner
Ron Kim said he would be happy to talk to those groups that could assist him. However, he wanted to move
this project along. He said the site selection committee has narrowed down the locations to three. He now
would like the consultant to review those three locations.
Roll call vote: ayes all.
Local Law Repealing Charter Section 11.2 Limitations on Bonding Capabilities and Enacting a new Charter
Section 11.2 Limitation on Amount of Local Indebtedness which may be contracted (06-142)
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said when reviewing capital projects, the City has a few choices – it can do
nothing by keeping the bonding limit where it is, or increase the limit. If the bonding limit stays where it is, the
Council could simply throw away the work done by last years and this years capital committee. This is not a
vote to spend money. It is only a vehicle to allow the Council to set priorities. He was not endorsing any one
project with this motion. Those decisions will come later. The Council needs to be responsible though and
address this challenge.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this local law changes the bonding limit from 1 percent to 3 percent of
the City’s average full valuation. It is subject to permissive referendum which allows residents to raise
objections within 45 days. The Council is not obligated to spend this money. This will require discipline on the
Council’s part. He is considering drafting a debt management policy. He said that under the current 1 percent
limit, the City has approximately $5.5 million available but under the 3 percent it would increase to $45 million.
At 2 percent it would allow proximately $26 million.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe then asked City Attorney Michael Englert if this required a four-fifths vote and
how many signatures would be required on the petition.
Michael Englert said that as a local law, this requires a majority vote because the City Council is not actually
borrowing any money. When the Council actually bonds money, it would require a super majority vote, but this
is a local law like any other legislation only it happens to be subject to permissive referendum. He said that
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this local law is subject to a permissive referendum because it is changing a provision of the law relating to the
authorization or issuance of bonds or other obligation and the petition must be signed by at least 10 percent of
those residents who voted for the governor in the last election.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to adopt local law #4 of
2006 to repeal charter section 11.2 and enact a new charter section 11.2 as follows :
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
LOCAL LAW NO. 4 FOR THE YEAR 2006
“CHARTER AMENDMENT —LIMITATION ON AMOUNT OF LOCAL INDEBTEDNESS
WHICH MAY BE CONTRACTED ”
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND the CHARTER OF THE CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS by
deleting and repealing section 11.2 of Title 11 thereof, TAX DISTRICTS; BONDING
LIMITS; CONTRACTS; ASSESSMENTS, TAXES AND USER FEES; RESERVE FUNDS,
and replacing it with a new section, to provide for the limitation on the amount of local
indebtedness that may be contracted not to exceed two per centum of the City’s average
full valuation.
BE IT ENACTED by the City Council of the City of Saratoga Springs, County of
Saratoga and State of New York, as follows:
Section 1.
The CHARTER OF THE CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS is hereby amended by deleting
and repealing section 11.2, “Limitations on Bonding Capabilities, ” of Title 11, TAX
DISTRICTS; BONDING LIMITS; CONTRACTS; ASSESSMENTS, TAXES AND USER
FEES; RESERVE FUNDS.
Section 2.
The CHARTER OF THE CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS is hereby amended by adding
thereto a new section, to replace section 11.2 hereinabove repealed, to read as follows:
11.2 Limitation on Amount of Local Indebtedness which May be Contracted
The limitation on the amount of indebtedness which may be contracted by the City
for any purpose or in any manner, including existing indebtedness, shall be determined
pursuant § 104.00 of the New York State Local Finance Law, except that such limitation
shall not exceed three per centum of the City ’s average full valuation.
Section 3. Local Law Subject to Referendum on Petition .
Pursuant to § 24(2)(e) of the New York State Municipal Home Rule Law, this local
law is subject to a referendum on petition if duly filed with the Commissioner of Accounts
within forty-five days after its adoption.
Section 4. Effective date .
Unless there be a petition protesting against this local law filed pursuant to § 24 of
the New York State Municipal Home Rule Law, this local law upon its filing and publication
in accordance with § 9.4.3 of the Charter of the City of Saratoga Springs, New York, shall
take effect on the forty-sixth day after its adoption.
Commissioner John Franck said that fiscal prudence was needed. Saratoga Springs is doing far better than
many other cities but interest rates are high, gas is up, there is a war, etc. Borrowing money equals raising
taxes. This would be an open line of credit. This is similar to taking out a huge mortgage. It is putting the cart
before the horse and he is very concerned. With a possible new form of government, this could all change.
This is the wrong thing at the wrong time. He said “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” The bottom line is that is that
this is an open checkbook
Mayor Valerie Keehn said there is no other choice. The Council needs to address its bonding limit. Frequently
in the capital program committee meeting, Marilyn Rivers repeatedly notes that the capital items need to be
addressed because of insurance issues. Commissioner John Franck said the City is not obligated to construct
a new facility. Mayor Valerie Keehn said based on available bonding, if one or two of the construction projects
were completed there would be no funds for equipment, infrastructure upgrades or the recreation facility.
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Commissioner Matthew McCabe said there is a little more than $5 million available for bonding. Commissioner
John Franck said this is a $63 million line of credit and with the existing economic market it was a concern.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said that with the possible change in the form of government this needs to be
considered. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said everything could be different next year if the form of
government is changed. He said we did not know if there would be wards or at large representatives. If wards
are used, they could be pitted against one another. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said no matter what type
of government is in existence next year; this issue still needs to be addressed. A new form of government
does not throw away the needs of the City or the obligation of the officials to address this matter.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this was a tough decision to make, but it was the right decision no matter
who is in office.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said this proposal is due to the failure of past administrations to address the
needs of the City. He said when Congress Park needed work, it took 12 years of saving money each year to
do the work. The National Grid building on Weibel Avenue will be turned over to the City in the next two or
three years – that took planning. Now due to the lack of administration in DPS, we need to raise the bonding
limit. The funds should have been set aside.
Commissioner Ron Kim said Commissioner Thomas McTygue was a good administrator and very good at long
range planning. However, he did not have the luxury of 12 years to save funds to construct these facilities.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said Commissioner Ron Kim should identify a site first and then come back
to the Council.
Commissioner Ron Kim said that adopting this local law this evening did not expend any funds. Council
members will still have that choice to fund or not fund these projects. These were not outlandish projects.
Because of past failures, the City has these needs that need to be addressed now. The Council will still be
able to vote their conscious on these projects. This bonding increase will not expend the funds tonight. If the
bonding limit is not increased, these needs will not be able to be addressed. Right now the City does not have
the ability to even discuss these projects.
Commissioner John Franck said the police, EMS and recreational facilities could potentially add up to $25
million. Commissioner Ron Kim said it was not his intention to spend those kinds of dollars. Commissioner
John Franck asked why then the bonding limit would be increased to such proposed limits. Commissioner
Thomas McTygue asked why it was necessary to go to $60 million. Commissioner John Franck said
increasing revenue lines needed to be looked at.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said that Commissioner Thomas McTygue has been requesting this increase
for some time now. He brought this local law forth based partially on Commissioner Thomas McTygue desire
and support. Passing this local law did not expend the funds. This will create a more flexible and responsible
process to meet the City’s demands.
Commissioner John Franck said that inevitably, residents’ taxes will go up dramatically over the next few years
because of this increase. Commissioner Ron Kim said the increase in taxes will be debated at the Council
table.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested changing the bonding limit from 3 percent to 2 percent.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said he looked at that option and that was not his recommendation.
Bill McTygue, Director of Utilities, said that everyone realizes that when they send their requests to the capital
budget committee, many of the items are “wish” list items. Those items are then pared down to the realistic
financial realities of the City. There is a six year capital program. In the end it is the Council that determines
what the City can afford. Some requests make the cut, while others don’t. DPW has accomplished a
significant amount of work over the years by setting aside funds each year.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said the issue is not the 2 or 3 percent, it is the discipline that will be
necessary by Council members.
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Bill McTygue said the reality of the general budget and its day to day operations, it was going to be difficult to
keep up with inflation and the departments were going to have a tough time. Departments are going to be
submitting their budget requests for the general budget and will need to make their “pitch” for what is needed.
Departments have general operational needs that are not being met. He said if the Finance Department was
going to tell the Departments that the City cannot afford the basic needs then it would be difficult to justify the
capital needs.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said that capital and general budgets were two separate entities. Bill
McTygue said he has many part time employees at 40 hours and cannot make them full time and offer them
benefits because of the costs. It’s troubling to him that the City cannot keep up with their current commitment
for staff and facilities and now the City may take on additional debt.
Commissioner Ron Kim moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue offered a friendly amendment for the
local law to be amended to 2 percent of the City ’s average full valuation.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked if Commissioner John Franck would support 2 percent. Commissioner
John Franck said the existing $5 million available for bonding will grow with the larger tax base, additional
revenue, etc. These proposed facilities will not be constructed within the next two or three years, therefore, by
the time they are constructed; there will be larger pools of money. If the City opens this line of credit, it will get
used and taxes will go up.
Michael Englert said local laws are required to be on the desk of the Council at least seven days prior to
enactment. Case law states that as long as proposed changes to the law are not substantial they can be
adopted. He said going from 3 percent to 2 percent was a judgment call, but he did not believe that it would
require another public hearing.
Ayes: four; Nays: one (Commissioner John Franck) on amend ed motion . Motion carried.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Mayor Valerie Keehn seconded to adopt the local law as
amended. Ayes: four; Nays: one (Commissioner John Franck). Motion carried.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Council Approval – Budget Amendment – Purchase of Light Globes for Broadway Approval of Expenditure of
Capital Reserve Money
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissio ner Ron Kim seconded to approve the budget
amendment to spend the funds from the Niagara Mohawk refund reserve account for the purchase of three
dozen decorate street light globs for Broadway. This amendment will be in the amount of $6363 and will
increase revenue line number A012-40000. Ayes all.
Noise Ordinance
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said it was time to review the noise ordinance. The noise from the bands
simply rocks the downtown area. He said it was not necessary that bands be so loud. The loudness of the
bands does not help the quality of life.
Commissioner Ron Kim said he has discussed this matter with the police department. Since the beginning of
the summer, there have been nine complaints on noise. The police department has checked out each incident,
however, noted that the noise ordinance is a subjective ordinance. He said the City does not have the
equipment to measure decibels levels.
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Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested that Commissioner Ron Kim check into the state law on the noise
coming from vehicles and the noise from motor cycles. Tony Izzo said the City could purchase decibel readers,
but that would require that staff is trained to use the equipment and that it is calibrated periodically.
Athletes Banquet
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Athletes Banquet will be held on November 22 at the City Center.
There will be approximately 200 athletes honored that evening. It will be catered by the Old Bryan Inn and
they anticipate between 600 and 800 people attending. They have met their budgetary obligations through
donations. A program will be printed and sold with the funds going to the booster clubs. He said this was a
great honor for such a small community to be able to do such an event.
Water Treatment Plant – Change Order
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Matthew McCabe seconded to approve the
following change orders: 1) time extension only for contract 1D for Stilsing Electric Company for the Water
Treatment Plant Disinfection System. No financial implication , material issue. Ayes all.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to approve the following
change order: a change order in the amount of $5,698.75 for contract 1A for Blue Heron Construction
Company for the water plant disinfection system. Ayes all.
Engineering – Air Conditioning – Change Order
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to approve change order
#1 in the amount of $37,986 for air conditioning in the remaining south end of the City Engineer ’s Office.
Funding has been secured for this project. The money is within the budget in a variety of line items. Ayes
all.
Open Space
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Council owes it to the residents of this City to listen to their concerns.
The residents on Bingham Street and the developer have been talking about this matter for quite some time.
He asked that the open space committee review this parcel, the Getty Station parcel on South Broadway and
the Snack Shack parcel on Congress Street. All three of those parcels would be good acquisitions for the City.
He said the owners of the Getty Station parcel may be more receptive to selling now that they were losing a
portion for a right of way matter. He said that the prior Council was negotiating with the owners, however, it fell
through.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said they have tried to organize a meeting of the open space committee but because of
the summer activities it was difficult. It was her understanding that the committee had discussed all three of
these parcels and the Bingham Street parcel was not on their recommended list.
Bill McTygue said the Council needs to understand the needs of the neighborhoods and those needs deserve
to be addressed. The City has spent large pools of money on these larger land acquisitions and now it was
time to focus on the small parcels. They deserve equal attention. The Bingham Street parcel is a good
example of how a small parcel could impact a significant number of residents. This is a reasonable request.
He said that it was his understanding that Jeff Olsen supported this project. It needs to be addressed and
brought back to the Council for discussion.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Fingerprinting Ordinance (06-143)
Commissioner Ron Kim moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adopt the Fingerprinting
City Personnel Ordinance as presented. Ayes a ll.
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Repairs for Police Department
Commissioner Ron Kim withdrew this item from discussion.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the second public comment period. There being no one wishing to speak, Mayor
Valerie Keehn closed the second public comment period.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Matthew McCabe moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adjourn the
meeting at 10:05 p.m. Ayes all. There being no further business, Mayor Valerie Keehn adjourned the meeting
at p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Clerk
Approved:
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CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FINAL AGENDA
August 1, 2006
Executive Session: PBA Contract 5:50 p.m.
Executive Session: Freightenburg Matter: 6:10 p.m.
P.H. 6:20 p.m. Fingerprinting Ordinance (DPS)
P.H. 6:30 p.m. Local Law Repealing Charter Section 11.2
Limitations on Bonding Capabilities, and
Enacting a new Charter Section 11.2
Limitation on Amount of Local Indebtedness
Which may be Contracted
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
SALUTE TO FLAG
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PRESENTATIONS: Route 9P Bridge Replacement Project
Neighborhood Preservation Ordinance
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Accept Donations for the Visitors Center Multicultural Music Series: Marco Polo Homes $1700
Robert Davis $250
2. Approval of Minutes: July 18, 2006
3. Approve Budget Transfers – Payroll
4. Approve Budget Amendments
5. Discussion and Vote: Accept Donations: Outstanding Athletes Banquet
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MAYOR’S DEPT Mayor Keehn
1. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to Sign Licensing Agreement – Emergency Generators
2. Set Public Hearings – Capital Program
3. Discussion and Vote: Extension of Contract for Behan Associates
4. Discussion and Vote: Economic Development Loan for “Max, Restaurant and Bar”.
5. Discussion and Vote: Ryan Biggs Contracts Re: Rip Van Dam
6. Discussion and Vote: MidState to Provide Construction Assistance Re: Rip Van Dam
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ACCOUNTS DEPT. Comm. Franck
1. Discussion and Vote: Authorize Mayor to Sign Final Expenditure of Fire Department Inventory Grant Project
2.. Announce: MSDS Program for City Hall Website
3. Discussion: Return to Work Programming via Safety Committee
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FINANCE DEPT. Comm. McCabe
1. Approve Payrolls
2. Approve Warrants
3. Vote: Bond Resolution Amendment – Public Safety Facilities
4. Discussion and Vote: Local Law Repealing Charter Section 11.2 Limitation on Amount of Local Indebtedness
which may be Contracted
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PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT Comm. McTygue
1. Discussion and Vote: Council Approval Budget Amendment-Purchase of Light Globes for Broadway
Approval of Expenditure of Capital Reserve Money
2. Discussion: Noise Ordinance
3. Discussion: Outstanding Athletes Banquet
4. Discussion and Vote: Change Orders – Water Treatment
5. Discussion and Vote: Change Order: Engineering – Air-Conditioner
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PUBLIC SAFETY DEPT. Comm. Kim
1. Discussion and Vote: Create Ordinance to Allow the Police Department to Fingerprint Public Safety Personnel
2. Discussion and Vote: Repairs for Police Department
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SUPERVISORS
Keyrouze
1. Saratoga County Business Showcase
Thursday, October 5, 2006
2. Disposing of Household Hazardous Waste in Saratoga County
3. Saratoga County Horse Park
4. Ball Metal Container
Air Emissions
Yepsen
5. County Update
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Adjourn August 15, 2006
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