City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · January 2, 2008
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City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes
Wednesday, January 2, 2008
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 2, 2008
6:55 P.M.
PRESENT: Scott Johnson, Mayor
Commissioner John Franck, Accounts
Commissioner Ken Ivins, Finance
Commissioner Ron Kim, DPS
Commissioner Anthony Scirocco, DPW
PRESENT: Supervisor Matthew Veitch
Supervisor Joanne Yepsen
STAFF PRESENT: Michele Boxley, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
Patrick Design, Deputy Commissioner, DPW
Eileen Finneran, Deputy Commissioner, DPS
Kate Jarosh, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Shauna Sutton, Deputy Mayor
PUBLIC HEARING
Local Law #1 of 2008 – Stormwater Amendments
Mayor Scott Johnson opened the public hearing on local law #1 – stormwater amendments.
Tony Izzo said this law is required by both federal legislation and the Department of
Environmental Conservation. The City has been working on this program for more than five
years. This law establishes a frame work that certain land uses would be required to submit
plans for projects that may impact the storm water system. He then explained that there are
three categories of projects which would be required to submit either a basic storm water
management plan or a full plan. This law pertains to both residential and nonresidential
activities. Commissioner Ron Kim noted that this law creates a stormwater management officer
and asked who that might be. Tony Izzo said it is the City Engineer. Commissioner Ken Ivins
asked about the three categories. Paul Male said that the three categories are based on land
size and use. He said the existing thresholds, as established by DEC for parcels less than five
acres, has not been changed, except for the one change in reduction in size for the
nonresidential use. He said the City cannot be less restrictive than the DEC thresholds,
however, the City can be more restrictive and the City has chosen to do that with the .01 acre
size, nonresidential project being required to submit a full plan. He said this was another
example of an unfunded mandate. Mayor Scott Johnson also noted that this proposed local law
had been forwarded to the Planning Board for an advisory opinion and they had responded with
a favorable opinion in a 6-1 vote.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Scott Johnson closed the public hearing.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Scott Johnson called the meeting to order with the Pledge of Allegiance.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Scott Johnson opened the first public comment period.
David Bronner, 5 Royal Henley Court, welcomed the new Council members. He said that during
the course of the last meeting there was a comment made that people like him and Wilma Koss
are selfish in nature with their motivation concerning Saratoga Lake. He said that is not true.
They are not trying to restrict the use of the lake. He said their concern is that the City should
have a full and complete accounting of the cost of the proposed water system and that the City
needs to establish a clear need to go to Saratoga Lake. David Bronner said that also at the last
meeting there was a suggestion from an audience member that certain of his comments be
expunged from the record. He said that what was alarming was that Commissioner John Franck
actually made the motion. Because there was no second to the motion, it died. He said that
residents should be concerned with free speech at Council meetings if such motions are
entertained. David Bronner said that lastly the snow removal over the last two days has been
terrific and he suspected that it was due to an increase in morale of the DPW employees.
There being no one else to speak, Mayor Scott Johnson closed the first public comment period.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Scott Johnson moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to approve the
consent agenda as presented noting that the appointment of the Commissioners of
Deeds had been moved to the Accounts Department agenda.
1. Approve payrolls: 12/21/07 $421,190.30
12/28/07 $457,172.34
12/31/07 $133,088.75 (3/7ths through 12/31/07)
(Includes FICA/MEDI 3rd party sick)
2. Approve warrants: Mid MC3DEC07 $2,764,491.58
General 3DEC07 $ 159,420.79 (2007 A/P)
Ayes all.
MAYOR’S DEPARTMENT
CORE Samplings at Recreation Center Potential Sites
Mayor Scott Johnson said the CORE samples at the Weibel Avenue location have been
completed, however, the results are not ready to report on. Commissioner John Franck said
there has been some discussion on another potential site at the Vanderbilt/Jefferson Terrace
area. If this Council was going to entertain going to that location, he did not want to see a lot of
money spent at the Weibel Avenue location. Mayor Scott Johnson agreed, but said the core
samples needed to be done for the Weibel Avenue location to determine the integrity of the site.
Planning Board & Zoning Board of Appeals 08-06
Mayor Scott Johnson announced the appointment of Phil Klein to the Planning Board
replacing Lou Schneider whose term had expired. He then announced the
appointment of MaryAnn Macica to the Zoning Board of Appeals replacing Gabe
Anderson whose term had expired.
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ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Commissioners of Deeds
Commissioner John Franck moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to appoint the
following individuals as Commissioners of Deeds with a term of two years: Aaron
Benware, Eileen Cotter, Todd Bengtson, Sean Briscoe, Robert Jillson, John Lanzara,
Thomas Mitchell, Jr., Andrew Prestigiacomo, John Sesselman and Gregory Veitch all of
the Police Department. Ayes all.
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Payrolls
Approved on the consent agenda.
Warrants
Approved on the consent agenda.
Budget Transfers – Payroll, Regular & Other
Commissioner Ken Ivins reported that there were no budget transfers.
Budget Amendments
Commissioner Ken Ivins reported that there were no budget amendments
Donation of Food Items to Inauguration
Commissioner Ken Ivins moved and Commissioner Anthony Scirocco seconded to
accept the donations from Stewarts, Saratoga Spring Water, and Sunnyside Gardens
and Class A Catering for the items for the inauguration ceremony. Ayes all.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Local Law #1 of 2008 Stormwater Amendments 08-07
Commissioner Anthony Scirocco moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to
adopt local law #1 of 2008 as discussed and presented.
Paul Male said this law needs to be passed before January 8 or the City faces the possibility of
being fined and/or audited. Commissioner Ken Ivins asked if the Council became uncomfortable
with the law, could it be amended. Tony Izzo said yes. Commissioner Ron Kim said it had been
previously stated that the City could only make the requirements more restrictive and not less
restrictive.
Nadine Medina, Barton & Loguidice, clarified that January 8 is the deadline for this program.
She said that anytime after January 8, the DEC and EPA may begin auditing communities on
their compliance. If the City is audited and has not complied, the City faces the potential of
fines of more than $30,000 per day. She said the City could make the requirements more
restrictive, but not less restrictive. She said the only change the City made was to make it more
restrictive for the parcels at .10 acre. She said the basic soil erosion/sediment control plan
consists of catch basins, silt fence, who will maintain it and how it is maintained. The full plan is
more detailed in how the City holds the developer more accountable for the impervious area, the
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developer would be required to do calculations and if the developer fails to comply, the City
could fine them. Paul Male said most of these requirements already exist. He said the cost
depends on the size of the project. He said that for example the Skidmore College Northwoods
project was somewhere in the neighborhood of $10,000 and $15,000 for a full plan. He said
that a smaller project in the inner city would likely be between $2,000 and $3,000. He said that
these requirements simply bring the storm sewer system up to the minimum standards when
new projects are developed. Nadine Medina said that DEC has already seen the progress that
the City has made in this area and they are happy.
Ayes all.
Other
Commissioner Anthony Scirocco commended the DPW workers for a job well done during the
recent snow storms. He said it is a tiresome job that requires long hours of work but they
manage to complete their work in good time.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Saratoga Springs Public Library Parking Hours – Set Public Hearing
Commissioner Ron Kim requested that a public hearing be set for January 15 at 6:55 p.m. on
the hours of parking at the Saratoga Springs Public Library. He said the City enforces the
parking at the library and they have requested that the times be adjusted from two to three
hours.
Public Health Officer – Appointment
Commissioner Ron Kim announced the appointment of Paul Okosky as the City’s Public Health
Officer. He said he would be sure that Paul Okosky submitted the required proof of insurance.
Mayor Scott Johnson asked exactly what were the duties of the Public Health Officer.
Commissioner Ron Kim said that recently there was an issue with an employee having an
infectious disease. Dr. Okosky was consulted for his expertise in that area. He also assists the
Code Enforcement Office when they are doing site inspections and a determination needs to be
made on whether the site is habitable or if there might be some neglect or domestic violence.
He said that Dr. Okosky also assists in the development of the City’s Emergency Plan.
Firefighters Contract 08-08
Commissioner Ron Kim moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to add the
firefighter’s contract matter to the agenda. Ayes all.
Commissioner Ron Kim said that since the firefighters’ contract was approved, an issue has
arisen with the starting pay of firefighters. He said when the contract was adopted, there were
four firefighters who were in the pipeline, attending the academy, who started at $42,912.
Now, according to the newly adopted contract their second year salary would be decreased to
$35,000. He said it was never the intention to decrease their salaries. The new pay scale was
meant for new employees and not those in the pipeline. Commissioner Ron Kim then reviewed
the new pay scale as follows: $30,500 for the first year, $35,000 second year, and $37,500
third year. He said the new contract lowers the starting salary for firefighters which was the
intention, but it was not intention to lower the salary of those firefighters who had already been
hired and who were at the academy. These four firefighters have been here for nearly a year.
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Commissioner Ron Kim moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to approve
the Appendix A Salary Structure (2007-2010).
Commissioner Ron Kim said the positions have been budgeted at the higher salary. He said that
this motion does not change the intent of the contract that new employees will start at $30,500
and it will take them four years to reach the salary the previous new hires were hired at.
Commissioner John Franck asked what constituted a new hire. Commissioner Ron Kim said the
day they come on the payroll they are new hires. He said it takes between 9 and 12 months for
a new firefighter to actually get on the truck.
Commissioner Kin Ivins asked about the longevity payments. Commissioner Ron Kim said the
longevity payments are yearly payments after the completion of five years.
Ayes all.
SUPERVISORS
Joanne Yepsen
Joanne Yepsen said that she and Matthew Veitch would be sworn in tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. at
the County Board of Supervisors room. She said they were anxious to hear of their committee
assignments.
Matthew Veitch
Matthew Veitch said that at this time he had nothing to report, however, anticipated reporting at
the next Council meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Mayor Scott Johnson opened the second public comment period. There being no one wishing to
speak, Mayor Scott Johnson closed the second public comment period.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Scott Johnson moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to adjourn the meeting at
7:55 p.m. Ayes all. There being no further business, Mayor Scott Johnson adjourned the
meeting at 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Clerk
Approved:
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